Lets talk about surround speakers cables. Most of us have been concentrating on front channels cables.

What type of surround speakers cables do you use? I am using QED classic normal type. Do you think by using a sliver type will improve the rear sound significantly?
What's your view?

nope....even if it does...u wont feel it as it's only ambient sound....
unless u listen to orchestra a lot....for movie...any 16-12awg cable will do

limpe using the cheap and proven Belden 1131A for surr.

me only Pasar road cable for surround........

Before this I was using only Monster THX for surround but since my run is more than 50ft I have to get a bigger cable than 16awg to reduce the resistance. So now I'm using QED Original (about 13awg). Good improvement for the surround especially during peak volume.

Anyway just for reference...

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For those who doesn't know what AWG your cable is...

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Remember you must measure only the diameter of copper inside and not together with the insulation

In theorytically cable in long running distance will loss its capability to carry audio signal.
So i think u should seek lowest gauge wire for example 12 AWG etc...Only my 2 cents bro

Yep agree. But for cheapo solution, if you run thin wires for surrounds, just increase 1 or 2 db for the rear speakers. Solve most people problem. But if you are listening to audiophile multichannel sound, you'd better get proper cables.

Why did I choose 13awg cable over a bigger cable like 12 awg or maybe even 10awg? Got a few reason.

1) Smaller cable easier to route (we are talking about surround speakers after all).
2) The bigger the cable will reduce resistance for sure but at the same time capacitance will increase. High capacitance over a longer distance will loose the higher part of audio signal. Not good for surround eh where usually carry mostly mid n high of those special effect audio.

That's why you need to know what is the optimal size for the length you are running and not simply hentam the biggest cable you can afford

i plan to upgrade mine....this is good input...

Agree..one of the way to safe my wallet

Thanks for the input.

I think all the hard & facts you could find in HT book cannot be hidden from arremie. He can digs every single facts out!

Is he head master

i just use QED One Series for my surround which i think it's pretty good as my run is only 10m each..

How it cost per meter

QED One only available in 10m or 20m length. Cost is about RM80 for 10m.

where could i get the QED One that costs RM80 for 10m?
is it suitable for front channels?

I use cheap wire for surround speakers and think Audyssey MultiEq could do some balancing task

if ur system cost rm800 then it's ok to use rm80 cable. if ur system is 8k then malu lah

http://www.futureshop.co.uk/qed-one-incogn...-10m-p-787.html

as long as it works....why malu??

not the owner. the avr and speakers malu coz they use cheap cable

lol. speakers and avr now also got emotions one ar? hahaha ... cute.

Shame to produce better sound maaa

AV Receivers in future will have emotion indicators

I got my QED One 20M per roll for RM150 in Miri.. Should be good enough for surrounds..

Interested with the price..How about its AWG?

This is very good info...

U think copper or silver is better for sorround?

of course silver is better

Silver is the best conductor of heat and electricity..but u have to pay extra for it..Copper cable is affordable meh..Only for surround maa no need to waste your money unless you desire to enjoy music that need more detail audio surround in 5.1ch

It depends on your speaker. If you have what I called "lazy" speakers such as Wharfedale, MS, PSB, etc then silver cable will help to bring out the details. Speaker on the bright side like my Klipsch sounded better with copper cable.

For example my previous QED SA XT sounded good with PSB but make the Klipsch sounded so thin. QED XT300 which is not silver plated sounded better with Klipsch.

QED is the best...I'm also using QED XT anniversary

That's what I thought before until I tried Chord Carnival SilverScreen

How much is the cable...

after you try kimber..
maybe your chord will have same fate as QED SA XT?

guys... how we want to compare between normal cable and brand cable like QED while listening...
can we know the different or we need to using other gauge...

your ears?

but for me i like to watch movie...music not much...la..
i think my ears cannot feel different between brand and normal cable...

eventho i involve with this HT around 10 yrs....
10 yrs not enough i think....

need to learn more from sifu and otai2 here...

Expensive possibility but yeah...

unless you can smell it

for movies cap ayam cable also can but good cables can give clear dialog, more ambiance and heightened surround effect.

Bro...arremie can u explain what sound will be when we connect our speaker using bi wire.... tks

when the time come for u to upgrade kimber..
PM me for the chord

new cable smell?

Bi-wired speakers employ crossover frequency filters. With the binding post jumper bars removed the crossover frequency filters direct the high and low frequency connections from the amplifier to the corresponding connections at the speaker terminals.

Stereo speakers that are bi-wired have a cleaner sound because separating the amplification of the high and low frequencies lowers the distortion at the amp, sending a less distorted signal to the speaker’s crossover frequency filters.

When bi-wiring, two sets of speaker cables are used (one positive and one negative) for each channel. One set of cables is wired to the high frequency (tweeter) binding posts, while the second set of cables is wired to the low frequency (woofer) binding posts.

guys which one do you think good for surround cable....

QED Micro

QED Silver Micro

QED Silver Anniversary XT

QED Silver Anniversary XT

Affordable to buy

It seems everyone recommending this brand..are you one of the user?

Yesss..I'm one of the QED owners ..Currently i'm using QED XT Anniversary for streaming my main speaker

soon use for surround?

i need to buy 80m ....for all of surround speakers(4 speakers).....

Ha..Ha..Now I still save my money to buy QED for my surround.

BRo...your house arr...very2 long tu....

That's why I still in progress to save my money but until ?????

If you have bright surround speakers, better choose pure copper cable. If you have the "lazy" one then silver plated is better.

If you wall mount then using banana on speaker side might not be possible. If that's the case then Silver Anniversary would be a better choice than SA XT coz SA XT a bit difficult to terminate bare wire because of the aircore tube.

Got fren recommend me use Canare 2S7F speaker cable for surround. Any user here? Price wise I think is around RM10/m, the price ok bo?

I will need 40-50m for new room so guys any suggestion on what brand? Budget if possible below RM10/m ler...

gold even better

GOLD for cable???

i only use some cheapo audio cable from car accessories at RM100++ for around 50ft each surround speaker... hehe... cheap huh?? but my speaker oso cheapo what.... Gigaworks S750... not worth to get high end cable.... but it performs well, maybe my requirement is low gua???? hahaha.....

Now gold price rm12x maa per gram

my friend doing gold business, she say now is around RM130/gm...

The thief will take your cable rather than take your money

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistivity

Silver wins. we only need the gold for electrical contacts, example your banana plug.

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Mar 21 2010, 07:50 PM

Totally agree with u..

Plus everyday i need to check up with the GOLD Cable. nanti orang curi atau tukar...

if kena curi, then upgrade to platinum cable lor.... better sq i think....

The best is silver for spkr cable as been posted by Skylinestar. Cheers.

Has anyone tried those Cat5e / Cat6 DIY speaker cables? Wanted to know whats it like before i plonk RM300 for a box to make into speaker cables for my 5 speaker set

http://www.mejiatryti.com/SpeakerCable/fivebraid.html <-- link showing how to braid Cat5e into speaker cable config and a very brief explanation on the quality

Excelent tutorial!!

I was wondering as well if anyone has used this cable as their mains/surrounds and have actually compared with branded cables..

I use the QED 79 for my surrounds.

http://www.futureshop.co.uk/qed-79-strand-...gth-p-2710.html

I think i will try it.. but recently a bit busy so need to wait d.. Nice article..

No problemo ^^ i can wait is there any other ppl who have tried such cables willing to comment on their quality? if no one then i think gilbertlhl will be the 1st

I might follow soon since i have tons of spare Cat5 lying around the house now (didn't wanna waste those cable if the whole project get messed up ) and also I'm preparing to move into my new condo so i need to get the correct measurements and placement for all the cable I'm going to put in my bedroom (2 PC, 2 Laptops, 1 Main Server (Multimedia sharing) and also my HT set. (have GF not wife )

Gonna be a nightmare to hide all those cables

wow u have tons of that Cat5, I need go buy. not sure where can get cheap...

lol just a figure of speech, but none of them is longer than a meter i think they go cheaper by the box instead of per order lengths.

Last i asked is RM285 for a box of 200M at jalan pasar but i dont quite know the quality of those cable. I was just browsing thru the shops.

Will pass you more info once i go down next week or so. Mind letting me know how much roughly you need so maybe we can share a box?

Did you get banana plugs with that or bare wire. How thick iszit? Im thinking of getting a pair too for my new bookshelf speaker.

Wondering where to find cheap banana plug for it. Dont need so good as Airloc and dun really like bare wire.

It's 2.5mm2 diameter, so that shld makes it about 12/13 AWG. I bought it bare as I have some spare bananas. it would be ok for surrounds, but won't recommend for fronts.