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maskedchan
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Apr 1 2010, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 1 2010, 10:02 PM) So, defect exist everywhere. By the way, Godfather Collection (UK Version) is region free and same distributor, Paramount as US version.  same studio but two different place produce.. as i recall, UK version have defect on 1disc for the entire batch..2nd episode if i not mistakenly...it will skip 10mins in the middle of the movie... so who buying pray hard they not mistaken pack the old problematic batch to you... QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 1 2010, 10:30 PM) Agree with you, defect exist everywhere , most important is we ought to enjoy the movie rather gettin' worried bout the details. I think its a kinda of sickness , even my own blood brother, never prefers UK edition blu-ray's. He's more to anything from US. All we need is a content of the disc. Probably there could be loads of differences, for me i just think they resemble much in larger volume. No offence bro maskedchan.. [im speaking in common though] none taken... everyone have own preferences... outlook is important for me..not only content... need to look elegant on the cabinet..
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low98944
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Apr 1 2010, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 1 2010, 11:12 PM) same studio but two different place produce.. as i recall, UK version have defect on 1disc for the entire batch..2nd episode if i not mistakenly...it will skip 10mins in the middle of the movie... so who buying pray hard they not mistaken pack the old problematic batch to you... That is okay for me. Cause I can ask for replacement copy and if replacement also got problem, can ask for refund and yet you can enjoy free movie.
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azxel
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Apr 2 2010, 12:31 AM
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moological mooster
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 1 2010, 05:09 PM) you still go cinema? save the money and buy more BD  cinema big screen experience ma  But I'm really beginning to lose faith in cinema... QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 1 2010, 05:10 PM) I agree with you bro, even the last film i watched in cinema was Avatar [both on 3d and 2d]. The image was fading in and out constantly and color was utter blurry.. Probably you watch BD too much bro, your eyes can't accept non-sharp images / high def..  probably true.. I just watched a 720p version of District 9... and all I can say is OMG... the difference is so huge comparing cinema and 720p QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 1 2010, 05:35 PM) The blur like is due to 24p and native refresh rates... hmm... so it means cinema is really inferior quality? BD is really the one of the ways of enjoying a movie.. of course 720 or 1080 alternative also so far so good
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maskedchan
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Apr 2 2010, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Apr 2 2010, 12:31 AM) cinema big screen experience ma  then is time to save money and buy projector lo.. can have big screen at home too
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Apr 2 2010, 12:59 AM
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Need a general advice
My blu-ray supplier wants me to bring in the following blu-ray to MYS.
1. Kamasutra - The Indian Way Of Love - Blu-Ray 2. Tantra - The Secret Of Sexual Exstasy -Blu-Ray 3. Bollyrobics - Dance Like Bollywood Stars Blu-Ray
I doubt that this will even gets through the Customs. Should i reject the stock or accept it?.
Plus i know its illegal to sell it at LYN..can someone let me know if this is definitely not worth spending time working on it..
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tolorati
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Apr 2 2010, 02:40 AM
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depends on the rating la bro? and if there is nudity or not.
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Apr 2 2010, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE(tolorati @ Apr 2 2010, 02:40 AM) depends on the rating la bro? and if there is nudity or not. I have not seen the disc yet, but from the information i've got it looks like ***** stars and strong sexual content. I think i better not take the risk at all..
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low98944
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Apr 2 2010, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 2 2010, 12:59 AM) Need a general advice My blu-ray supplier wants me to bring in the following blu-ray to MYS. 1. Kamasutra - The Indian Way Of Love - Blu-Ray 2. Tantra - The Secret Of Sexual Exstasy -Blu-Ray 3. Bollyrobics - Dance Like Bollywood Stars Blu-Ray I doubt that this will even gets through the Customs. Should i reject the stock or accept it?. Plus i know its illegal to sell it at LYN..can someone let me know if this is definitely not worth spending time working on it.. Rating is totally irrelevant in import those movies. According to my experience, your lucky is main factor that affect your BDs can arrive in your hand or not.  Sometime, even PG-13 or G rating movies also disappear on the way to you and vice versa. This post has been edited by low98944: Apr 2 2010, 08:11 AM
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low98944
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Apr 2 2010, 08:42 AM
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 It seem like to many ppl ordered The Godfather Trilogy [Blu-ray] [1972] (UK version), price already increase about double to £33.48. Yesterday, the price only £17.99 (before deduct VAT).  Offer only last for few hours.
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kayroll
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Apr 2 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 1 2010, 11:12 PM) same studio but two different place produce.. as i recall, UK version have defect on 1disc for the entire batch..2nd episode if i not mistakenly...it will skip 10mins in the middle of the movie... so who buying pray hard they not mistaken pack the old problematic batch to you... none taken... everyone have own preferences... outlook is important for me..not only content... need to look elegant on the cabinet..  My copy of Godfather haven't problem....... so anyone interested with Godfather from Amzon UK don't worry with that problem...... the distri have fix this problem
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anfieldude
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Apr 2 2010, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Apr 2 2010, 12:31 AM) cinema big screen experience ma  But I'm really beginning to lose faith in cinema... probably true.. I just watched a 720p version of District 9... and all I can say is OMG... the difference is so huge comparing cinema and 720p hmm... so it means cinema is really inferior quality? BD is really the one of the ways of enjoying a movie.. of course 720 or 1080 alternative also so far so good No. Films are shot in 24p. The cinema projectors I believe refresh at native 24Hz or 48Hz. People who are prone to 24p judder will notice it. Most home theater displays refresh at multiples of it 48,72,96 Hz some even higher. U notice it more at home then in theaters, thats all.
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azxel
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Apr 2 2010, 10:12 AM
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moological mooster
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 2 2010, 12:52 AM) then is time to save money and buy projector lo.. can have big screen at home too  your place using HD projector ah?  Hows the IQ? But need a totally dark room to enjoy right? QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 2 2010, 09:05 AM) No. Films are shot in 24p. The cinema projectors I believe refresh at native 24Hz or 48Hz. People who are prone to 24p judder will notice it. Most home theater displays refresh at multiples of it 48,72,96 Hz some even higher. U notice it more at home then in theaters, thats all. Hmm... never had this problem before and I've been watching movies for over 3 decades... could it be that the cinema's projector lens need calibration or something?
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maskedchan
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Apr 2 2010, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(kayroll @ Apr 2 2010, 08:43 AM) i guess only me the unlucky one.. or the scene skip already you not notice.. QUOTE(azxel @ Apr 2 2010, 10:12 AM) your place using HD projector ah?  Hows the IQ? me peasant no projector at house... maybe in future will upgrade... now room too small, not worth it to put a projector inside..
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low98944
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Apr 2 2010, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 1 2010, 11:12 PM) same studio but two different place produce.. as i recall, UK version have defect on 1disc for the entire batch..2nd episode if i not mistakenly...it will skip 10mins in the middle of the movie... so who buying pray hard they not mistaken pack the old problematic batch to you... Some interesting comments from Amazon UK's Discussion Board for Godfather Collection. Godfather Part II Disk Problem QUOTE Posted on 13 Nov 2009 13:19 GMT Last edited by the author on 13 Nov 2009 13:19 GMT Poul Erik Andersen says: I got a replacement first and end up with two defective box. No problems with the refund for me. I got mail from Amazon today regarding the faulty part II: Possible affected units can be identified by the catalogue reference BSP2032 appearing on the spine of the outer slipcase holding all four discs, coupled with the barcode reference 5 051368 203232 appearing on the underside of the outer slipcase. QUOTE Posted on 23 Nov 2009 10:38 GMT J. Irmer says: I have just been contacted by amazon again and it seems that anybody who has a faulty disc will get a free replacement! :-)
Here's what amazon wrote:
"We have been made aware of a potential manufacturing issue with the title you purchased from Amazon.co.uk.
One of the discs in this boxed set: "The Godfather Part 2" may not work properly on your Blu-ray player.
The symptoms of the possible fault are that the disc for "The Godfather Part 2" will not play.
If you have experienced the symptoms described above when trying to playback "The Godfather Part 2" Blu-ray disc from this specific boxed set, please contact Rebecca.Sparrow@Technicolor.com who will provide you with details of how to return the faulty disc 2 and receive a free replacement disc.
Thank you for your patience and understanding, and for using Amazon.co.uk." QUOTE Posted on 22 Dec 2009 08:21 GMT P. A. Hewitt says: Ive got the set with the ref number BSP 2032 & 051368203232 and have had no problem there was a note slipped into the box telling me it may not play on some players but my sony bdp-s363 plays disc 2 fine. Those purchase Godfather collection from January 2010 seem like no problem for Disc 2 anymore.  No wonder their sold this boxset at £17.98 during mid of Nov 2009 to early Feb 2010. This post has been edited by low98944: Apr 2 2010, 10:58 AM
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fadthil
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Apr 2 2010, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Apr 1 2010, 05:06 PM) You know... I think BD is totally destroying my cinema experience... Recently I find cinema movie's image quality really horrible... watch till my eye kinda hurt because it doesn't look sharp at all... there's this blur-like image that's constant and the colors seem a bit washed out... The horrible PQ in our cinema huh? I noticed that long ago redi... could it be because they have to re-duplicate for the 'subtitled' version for our local cinema projecting and lead to degradation of quality? Oh, then again I dont know how subtitles were done on cinema reel... just my thoughts.
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low98944
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Apr 2 2010, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(fadthil @ Apr 2 2010, 11:06 AM) The horrible PQ in our cinema huh? I noticed that long ago redi... could it be because they have to re-duplicate for the 'subtitled' version for our local cinema projecting and lead to degradation of quality? Oh, then again I dont know how subtitles were done on cinema reel... just my thoughts.  Yes. I read somewhere at http://bluray.highdefdigest.com, the more "generation" you copy of your movie, the more degrade of the quality of the PQ for that copy.
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low98944
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Apr 2 2010, 11:22 AM
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Blu-ray vs. Theaters
Q: It has been stated several times in this column and on many sites that 35mm film holds higher resolution that even Blu-ray and the best of HDTVs cannot capture. However, having seen most films in theaters, and then on Blu-ray again later, am I crazy in thinking that the Blu-ray looks better than it did in theaters? Now I understand that 35mm film has a higher resolution and more detail. So why does it seem to me that my Blu-rays sometimes look 10 times better than the movie did in theaters? When I watch a film on Blu, my eyes tend to wander and are taken aback by the sheer beauty and vast amount of detail on the screen. This is not the case in theaters.
A: The first thing to keep in mind is that movie theater screens are much larger than your HDTV at home. Even if you have a big-screen TV or high-def projector, your home theater display benefits from having a smaller and brighter picture in comparison to that at a movie theater. If you were to project a movie from a Blu-ray source onto a 50-foot screen, it would suffer a lot of the same problems that you see in commercial theaters. Even small visual artifacts that are virtually invisible to you now would be glaringly obvious at that size. Depending on the projection equipment used, the picture would also likely appear dimmer and consequently softer.
With that said, the increased resolution available on 35mm film is often a theoretical advantage when it comes to theatrical projection. All that detail really resides on the original camera negative. Of course, that's not what's being projected at your local theater. The dupe prints distributed to theaters are several generations removed from the negative. Because film prints are optically duplicated, each subsequent generation loses some quality. As a result, a lot of that detail in the original photography never makes it to your theater screen. However, Blu-rays are typically mastered from Internegative or Interpositive film elements much closer to the source, and thus retain much more of that original detail.
This is the same reason why D-Cinema digital screenings usually appear more vibrant and detailed than 35mm screenings, even though the 2k projectors used in most digital theaters are barely higher in resolution than the 1080p used on Blu-ray.
Another contributing factor to your disappointment with theatrical screenings is that many commercial theaters underpower the lamps in their projectors in the misguided belief that the lamps will last longer that way. Some theaters also keep old lamps in service long after they have dimmed beyond the point of acceptability.
Update: One of our forum readers has added the following:
As a former projectionist, I can tell you that the biggest contributing factors to theater pictures looking like crap are:
1. Projectionist error (focus is often slightly off, framing almost always is to some degree). 2. Wear and tear on the print (if projected from film, it gets pretty beat up, especially if the projector has some problems and scratches or wears it more on the way through). 3. Overall condition of the projector. As I said above, it can further damage the film, but the bigger problem I see is jitter. When the picture is slightly shaky, just enough to almost seem like its the focus problem, it is usually due to a projector not exactly lining up each frame, or the projector not being properly secured to where its own motor is vibrating it.
Of course the reasons mentioned in the column play big parts too, but if we could conquer the 3 reasons I listed, you'd be seeing something MUCH better.
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fadthil
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Apr 2 2010, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 2 2010, 11:14 AM) Yes. I read somewhere at http://bluray.highdefdigest.com, the more "generation" you copy of your movie, the more degrade of the quality of the PQ for that copy. Thanks for the link, that's a good read...  ___________________________________________________________ Ah, now you've found it.... ok, thanks... This post has been edited by fadthil: Apr 2 2010, 11:24 AM
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Apr 2 2010, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 2 2010, 08:08 AM) Rating is totally irrelevant in import those movies. According to my experience, your lucky is main factor that affect your BDs can arrive in your hand or not.  Sometime, even PG-13 or G rating movies also disappear on the way to you and vice versa.  Not taking the risk at the moment. Rejected the offer..
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ianho
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Apr 2 2010, 03:47 PM
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Cucimangkoklife
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Cinema PQ? TGV is the worst, blur like dunno what. Feel like throwing eggs at the office after shows. Cathay n GSC is very much better. Nice n sharp PQ
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