what you mean how did that happened?

notts was ranked lower than monash all these years.

p/s: monash's website isn't very user friendly as well.

Lol I take the rankings with a pinch of salt. Rankings alone can't tell how good the university is compared to others, though it does provide some light in certain aspects.

in malaysia, the rankings don't really matter.

people are more concerned about the price, environment, and where their friends are going to study.

no more like just where their friends are going to study. hmm... it is? why is notts ranked lower than monash? i though notts has more money poured into research and better facilities.

At least I don't.

bro..when we talk about this ranking thingy.. we compare internationally..go and have a look at notts in uk and monash in australia..

if we wanna look closer here in malaysia, you can easily see who has more financial backing.

nottingham's campus is big, no doubt about it, but where is it located? compared to monash. the difference of land prices in these 2 areas are certainly very big.


me too.

going monash all alone.

I would actually wish none of my friends went to the same uni. Actually forces you to socialise, which is another important skill to sharpen. Did that in F6, ended up wit another bunch of great friends.

For the record, in terms of 'ranking' Monash has always outscored Nottingham. Even the score for each segment also outscore. But, unless they hold an Olympiad pitching students from every university against each other in some empirical test, or else there isn't a real way to telling which is better than which.

hmm.. i see... then the TS must be really wrong huh?

^huh? which part? Might wanna clarify that boss...

EDIT: you mean the 'best university' part? LOL 'best' is a very subjective adjective ma.... Can't say who's wrong or right ma... I might say the Nissan GTR is the best car, but you might say the Ferrari F430.

This post has been edited by DJFoo000: Jul 31 2010, 02:17 PM

lol and also very misleading. hmm... i wonder what else can improve a university official ranking.

the research they do. facilities.. job employment rate of students... a lot lor

hmm... when was monash built in malaysia?

1998 when it first shared its campus with sunway.

2008 when it has an independent building.

The sunway campus was opened in 1998 though Monash already had partnerships and offered programmes with Sunway College earlier than that.

ah i see so it's about 12 years already. n then when's notts built?

can you at least try to google?

2005.

hahah alright alright. no need to get pissed off. and i'm pretty sure someday notts will be able to catch up.

Hey zstan makes me feel like I should have chose Monash over Notts back then. lol

But not really. I'd prefer the UK system over the Australian. Australian for me would take longer in terms of accomplishment.

And hey, Notts is one of UK's top 15 universities, and some of its programmes are among the best in the country (based on rankings), e.g. the Mechanical Engineering is 2nd place in UK.

With the top 15 universities, and compared to the top 8 universities, it really doesn't matter much. If we were to compare every single thing, I'd even say holders of UK degrees will possess more recognition in the international corporate arena if compared to an Australian degree. But it doesn't really matter very much when the universities are among the popular ones in the country, you can say it's on par, and what you've just gotta do is obtain at least a distinction/second class upper. You can say there's a difference if you take ANU and compare it with Notts though, if the course years being equal, I'd go for ANU. Sometimes it's the prestige that matters.

This post has been edited by entryman: Jul 31 2010, 04:03 PM

you are probably referring to Times-QS ranking where monash is ranked at 45 while nottingham is at 91 (http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2009/results) but this ranking is misleading as it focuses heavily on surveys and peer reviews (fake)

ARWU ranking is more established and accurate as it focuses on research output and quality of professor. Here, nottingham is ranked at 83 while monash is at 201-302.

do u have the link for ARWU?


This post has been edited by rubrubrub: Jul 31 2010, 04:20 PM