I don't think there are that many lecturers or researchers on this forum. But I believe that the pay scales and salaries of government academics are standardized and can be found online. That would represent the minimum threshold.

Man, your thinking is so strange. They're not hiring a student. They're hiring a researcher. That is a big distinction.

1. So, so strange. Nobody on the hiring panel gives a damn how much the country saved by not having to finance your studies, LOL!!!! LOL!!! Jesus.

2. It's intriguing to see how an academic reasons about the real world. It's amusing!

3. I'm sure lots of Malaysians are losing sleep over your sense of unjustice! LOL!

You have to get out of your I-ness. Me, me, I, I, should, should. It's not about you. They are the one with the money, they are the one who will make the decision, and nobody gives a damn about the sort of "fairness" as you see it. Nothing is as it "should" be. Things are as they are. It is up to you to be the sort of person they will want to hire over others like you. What are they looking for? Stop, for just this one moment in your life, to think about yourself and your cv. Think about them instead. The dean who has to fill a position. What would he want to see of a candidate to give his faculty/school more presence? Etc.

God, you're strange.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Feb 28 2010, 03:44 PM

I wasn't critiquing your qualifications which I'm sure is fantastic. I was surprised at how you were incredibly internally-focussed in your thinking. How hard something was to acquire is not necessarily a measure of its value in the eyes of others. Maybe it is. Maybe its not.

You mustn't go around thinking you're entitled to whatever you think you're entitled to. People hate that. OTHER people hate that. It is a lot more helpful to think what others might want, and how you can provide it. I'm asking you to transport yourself into the minds of others. You are unaccustomed to this mode of thinking.

Another thing you absolutely need to keep in mind of is the concept of sunk cost. Every textbook on microeconomics treats this, and there is a very good reason for this: It is non-intuitive. If a Uni has sunk a fortune into someone, they will likely prefer him over another candidate they have not invested in.

I gave no excuses. I was merely depicting the way people think, especially when they are in groups.

Are you trying to find a job or are you here to lament the country's backwardness? You have to pick your priority man.

Yes. And take it up the ass and always swallow.

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Added on February 28, 2010, 5:51 pmI thought you wanted a lecturing position with good merit-based upward mobility at an excellent pay?

But now you seem intent on condemning the very people who are supposed to provide you with the above? They are not compatible goals, you know.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Feb 28 2010, 05:51 PM

PhDexpert, maybe you can tell us how the recruitment process for a lecturer looks like.

I think it's hopeless to try to be a top-notch researcher in MY. The institutions are not organized to make that possible.

You might nonetheless want to return (for personal reasons). But the fact remains that you will unlikely be able to do much research here.