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koaydarren
post Jan 18 2012, 12:08 AM

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Why are you so obsessed with the salary? i understand money is important in reality but you just could not compare money with knowledge. Knowledge is much more important than money. Perhaps u are still too young to think about the meaning of life.. Good luck on finding the highest paid lecturer in Malaysia...
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post Jan 20 2012, 07:15 AM

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I think academia field is always different from the industry field, as in the industry, is always about the rat race. You go all out to climb the corporate ladder, whatever it takes to secure that higher position and salary. Lecturing is more or less like a more selfless profession to impart knowledge to others. Is my opinion still standing true today or is industry and academia all about money and rat races as well now? haha
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post Jan 20 2012, 03:24 PM

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Does anyone know the salary of part time lecturer in private colleges?
(Degree subject per hour rate)
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post Jan 20 2012, 03:31 PM

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hourly rate is around 100-200 for a part time position
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post Jul 21 2012, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Mar 1 2010, 12:05 PM)
For someone with a Ph.D, your thinking sure is simple.

Our education is not comparable to them. Simply put, our education is still very.. undeveloped.
Our economy, is not as dynamic due to bureaucratic red tape, fear of political backlash etc
The better part of our people, will hop to greener pastures should the offer come to them.
As a result of a weak economy, funding for education is low.
Due to the departure of our best minds elsewhere, our education is weak, and so is our economy.

It's a vicious cycle, and not one that's so easily reversed as you hope it would. People are in constant search of a better life, and sad to say, for an academic, that better life lies out of our country (if you look at pay, social support and research ops). It's admirable, yes, that you want to work here. But fact is, the backward, jaguh kampugn culture is already entrenched. If you speak to people in the education field, very few will say they are out to change the world. It's sad, yes, but talking about it in a forum helps how?

You, saying whatever you want in a forum, will not change that.
If you want to change, start with yourself. Why don't you start doing something about it, rather than just talking about your grand plans about changing the country. Talk is cheap.
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totally agreed.. all i hear is blablabla


Added on July 21, 2012, 9:38 pm
QUOTE(pinkdevil88 @ Mar 5 2010, 09:20 AM)
Have you thought of what can we do to change this country?? Instead of thinking what the country can give you, please think of what can you give the country.
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CORRECT!


This post has been edited by roanyui: Jul 21 2012, 09:38 PM
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post Oct 8 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(PhDExpert @ Feb 28 2010, 04:24 PM)
--snip--
but where do the Malaysian Universities send their staffs to?
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some to RMIT, sounds like MIT
Mara Institute of Technology (used to) is MIT too tongue.gif

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post Jan 10 2013, 04:09 AM

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PhDExpert is right!!!
Many of the professors in Malaysia apply to work as senior lecturer or associate professor in UK universities and guess what?
They don't get shortlisted for interview. I know because I and my professorial colleagues are involved in shortlisting potential candidates for interview.
As pointed out in this thread, Malaysia is a backward country but there is hope. Things will get better when the country becomes truly democratic and the (communist) government in Malaysia change. The returning experts programme (talentcorp) is a joke and a failure. Who wants to go to Malaysia for 2 CKD cars and 15% tax allowance for 5 years, to put up with all their nonsense?
Well, me smile.gif). Because my wife and kids are Malaysians, holding UK passports as well. We are thinking of going back to work in Singapore or Brunei (or probably Nottingham University Malaysia where I worked as visiting professor), to be close to her family. In the meanwhile I am continuing to supervise my Malaysian students in the UK who are sponsored by the Malaysian government to come and study here - It costs the government about £100k (orRM500K) per student. Imagine the savings that the government would make if I supervise 10 PhD students in Malaysia!!! Will I accept RM10k salary? Well, I may but in the future, or better still I might come under the MM2H programme, after I retire!!!!

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post Jan 14 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(cfphoenix @ Jan 10 2013, 04:09 AM)
PhDExpert is right!!!
Many of the professors in Malaysia apply to work as senior lecturer or associate professor in UK universities and guess what?
They don't get shortlisted for interview. I know because I and my professorial colleagues are involved in shortlisting potential candidates for interview.
As pointed out in this thread, Malaysia is a backward country but there is hope. Things will get better when the country becomes truly democratic and the (communist) government in Malaysia change. The returning experts programme (talentcorp) is a joke and a failure. Who wants to go to Malaysia for 2 CKD cars and 15% tax allowance for 5 years, to put up with all their nonsense?
Well, me smile.gif). Because my wife and kids are Malaysians, holding UK passports as well. We are thinking of going back to work in Singapore or Brunei (or probably Nottingham University Malaysia where I worked as visiting professor), to be close to her family. In the meanwhile I am continuing to supervise my Malaysian students in the UK who are sponsored by the Malaysian government to come and study here - It costs the government about £100k (orRM500K) per student. Imagine the savings that the government would make if I supervise 10 PhD students in Malaysia!!! Will I accept RM10k salary? Well, I may but in the future, or better still I might come under the MM2H programme, after I retire!!!!
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Couldn't agree more, Prof.

Which university you were serving before this?
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post Oct 22 2013, 01:06 PM

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My opinion is that to be a recognized post-graduate lecturer besides academic achievements, a lecturer needs to have a number of years in the business world. Business experiences and working in companies will give the lecturers more confidence in teaching.
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:07 PM

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I've been in Malaysian academia for over a year now. Took a huge, huge pay-cut to join, but no real regrets yet.

Will briefly list out the pros and cons.
Pros
- Flexible - You have almost total control of your time besides teaching hours.
- Funding is not very competitive so far. I've got almost 200k in funding within the first year. More worrying for me is the lack of Malaysian students taking up the studies, which is a must for many of the funds.
- Opportunities abound. Just need to know where to look and be hardworking.
- KPIs are not too difficult to achieve.

Cons
- Lots of administrative work. However, this is a world-wide trend and I don't see it stopping. You can see the same happening in schools as well.
- Many lecturers aren't serious about research. Could be a pro or a con depending on your point of view. You could see it as less competition and all that, but I would prefer to have a group of people to work and discuss with. It makes research that much easier.
- Malaysian post-graduate students are hard to find. Dumbing down of our school systems, poor reputation of local universities, and low salaries make it an unattractive option. Again, this is a global trend as enrolment of locals everywhere is declining.


Not listing contributing to the improvement of the country, job satisfaction, etc. as I feel those are of a more personal in nature.

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I think it is best you stay in the West where things are more transparent for research and respondents are more cooperative. I also feel if you do come back it is for retirement and you would have already built up your nest egg overseas. However, even Australia, UK and US are not immune to spending cuts on research. Their tax and cost of living is higher. So right now you are comparing a peach to a rambutan which bears no resemblance.
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Lecturing prospect is very dark here. Better go overseas instead. Haha.
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post Jan 20 2015, 09:38 PM

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Part time lecturer is better than full time lecturer...
When semester break, after marking all examination, full time lecturer need to come into office and most of the time is just sitting there, nothing to do n wasting time...

Does anyone agree on me?
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post Jan 28 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(PhDExpert @ Feb 27 2010, 07:25 AM)
I'm 29 years old and would like to know about possible salary as lecturer at IPTS as well. I'm Electrical and Computer Engineering graduate.

My qualification
1. BEng (Hons) from Multimedia University, Malaysia (Top 3 students from the department and scholarships recipient) 
2. MSc from University of Hong Kong (Top student, Gold medalist)
3. PhD from RMIT University, Australia (Scholarships from RMIT). During my PhD, I have published 15 publications in conferences (4 in top tier conferences) and journals (2 in top tier journals). The ranking of the conferences and journals are set by the Australian government as a measure to evaluate the quality of the publications throughout Australia. I don't think Malaysia has any ranking for the conferences and journals as I never see them publish in those top tier avenues.

My experience
I worked as lecturer at a college in malaysia for 5 months, an MNC for 5 months, and also 1 year of internship during undergraduate and postgraduate.

My possible offers
I receive offers from Japan and UK, though i'm considering contributing to my own country back home. Hope someone could shed some lights on lecturer salary at IPTS with the latest information.

For instance, in UK, I'm offered a full time three-year position as researcher and a part time tutoring job. After completing my research, they have agreed to provide 6,500 quid per year to fund my future research for the next 10 years. So, the total I receive within the next 10 years would be 65,000 quid equals RM357,500.

My questions
1. I wanted to know if my achievements are well recognised in malaysia, and being an above average achiever, does Malaysia provide any incentive like the UK or perk to promote brain gain?
2. What is the salary I get if I join an IPTS?
3. What are the incentives and perks?
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If your supervior see this post, he should be laughing at you and ashame why he offer you a scholarship. I believe he expects you to use your knowledge to help more peoples. Work hard to get into world top ten universities if you are really interested in research. Your acheivement is honestly so so. 15 conference papers mean wasting money to travel and plenty makan-minum, which no weightage in academic world. 2 journal is miminum requirement for oral examination.

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QUOTE(PhDExpert @ Mar 1 2010, 10:13 AM)
For Prof. Ewe Hong Tat, I'm NOT qualified to evaluate as he is much more experience than I am. I suppose he is 15 years my senior.

For Dr. Goh Yong Kheng, he is about 5 years my senior, so I'll evaluate his achievement. I'm intrigued he is a deputy dean at this young age, probably at 34 years old (I'm 29 years old).

Firstly, he obtained a scholarship from UK to pursue PhD. His scholarship "ORS (Oversea Research Students Awards), 2001-2003, by Universities UK for studying PhD at Imperial College London" was sponsored by the UK government to cover the DIFFERENCE between UK student and Overseas student tuition fees, that's about 6,000 quid per annum. Thus, Dr. Goh either covered his living expenses and UK student tuition fees (up to 10,000 quid per annum) himself, or he worked as tutor, research assistant, waiter, or salesman to support himself while in UK. He indeed had struggled a lot in UK.     
   
Secondly, I evaluate his publications. There are 7 peer-reviewed publications (excluding PhD thesis). he has 5 journals and 3 conference research papers) and the publication avenues are as follows:

New J. Phys. 4, 81.1-81.9 (2002),  5-year Impact Factor = 3.544) = Excellent
Granular Matter, 6, 39-46, (2004), (refereed) 5-year Impact Factor = 1.618) = Excellent
Computational Science - ICCS2004, Ranked A by Australia = Excellent
ERAD 2004, vol. 2, 35-40, 6 pages, (2004). Acceptance rate <20% = Excellent
NHESS 5-year Impact Factor = 1.345) = Good
J. of Sci. & Tech. in the Tropics, vol. 1, no. 1, page 131 – 134, (2005)
Very Poor because First volume and First edition
Nat. Hazards Earth Syst. Sci., vol. 6, 285 – 291, (2006) 5-year Impact Factor = 1.345) = Good

Based on the evaluation, he has 4 good journals and 2 good conferences publications, all international. Those are top-tier publications. Although the quantity is low, but the quality is excellent. Having said that, as a deputy dean, he should have much more good publications, rather than merely six.

Compared to UK and Singapore, his achievement is rather low at this age and his position as a vice dean.

But in Malaysia, he is one of the top achievers. If you compared to the entire Computer Science department in USM, he is the top. You can compare with USM and Dr. Goh publication impak factor is more than anyone in the entire USM:

USM publication list

All in all, he is someone I salute lah... as his good publications are more than mine tongue.gif. But, we have a 5-year age gap. And, the flip side is he NEVER publish after his PhD graduation. What happens to him? He has stopped publishing since 2006. Slacker? Or the Malaysian Malas culture?

Currently, I have 2 good journals and 3 good conferences publications, and this is enough for me to get good position in UK and Japan.
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Please have a look at this http://www.researcherid.com/ProfileView.ac...App=CR&Init=Yes.

He is a researcher in local university
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post May 21 2015, 01:19 PM

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azarimy Are you familiar with the current pay scale in UTM for fresh PhD graduates with give or take one year's teaching experience?
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QUOTE(v1n0d @ May 21 2015, 05:19 AM)
azarimy Are you familiar with the current pay scale in UTM for fresh PhD graduates with give or take one year's teaching experience?
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i can find out.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 21 2015, 03:30 PM)
i can find out.
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Please do, thanks. I just completed my PhD (in UTM itself) and I'm currently weighing the following options:

1. Continue lecturing at a private institution in KL. I've been teaching here for about 9 months now and they're offering me a permanent position once my current contract runs out.
2. Take up a postdoc contract with one of UTM's affiliate research facilities. This one I'm 50-50 about as I've heard that recent contracts aren't being renewed due to budget cuts, but I really do miss doing research.
3. Lecture under the same faculty I was from in UTM Skudai, or apply to other public universities via SPA.
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Feb 21 2014, 11:07 PM)
I've been in Malaysian academia for over a year now. Took a huge, huge pay-cut to join, but no real regrets yet.

Will briefly list out the pros and cons.
Pros
- Flexible - You have almost total control of your time besides teaching hours.
- Funding is not very competitive so far. I've got almost 200k in funding within the first year. More worrying for me is the lack of Malaysian students taking up the studies, which is a must for many of the funds.
- Opportunities abound. Just need to know where to look and be hardworking.
- KPIs are not too difficult to achieve.

Cons
- Lots of administrative work. However, this is a world-wide trend and I don't see it stopping. You can see the same happening in schools as well.
- Many lecturers aren't serious about research. Could be a pro or a con depending on your point of view. You could see it as less competition and all that, but I would prefer to have a group of people to work and discuss with. It makes research that much easier.
- Malaysian post-graduate students are hard to find. Dumbing down of our school systems, poor reputation of local universities, and low salaries make it an unattractive option. Again, this is a global trend as enrolment of locals everywhere is declining.
Not listing contributing to the improvement of the country, job satisfaction, etc. as I feel those are of a more personal in nature.
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After 2.5 years, I've had a complete change of mind and have resigned from my position.

It's good to stay back if you're keen on gaming the system and having an "easy-ish" life or to retire after years abroad, but not if you're serious about doing good work.

Speaking about my experience at a private "research" university here. A government university may be different, but I've no desire to try it out anymore.

This post has been edited by thesoothsayer: Jun 7 2015, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Jun 7 2015, 11:04 AM)
After 2.5 years, I've had a complete change of mind and have resigned from my position.

It's good to stay back if you're keen on gaming the system and having an "easy-ish" life or to retire after years abroad, but not if you're serious about doing good work.

Speaking about my experience at a private "research" university here. A government university may be different, but I've no desire to try it out anymore.
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what makes you changed your mind? care to share?

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