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 -+♦+- LYN OFFICIAL PROTON PERSONA THREAD V7 -+♦+-, Our Pride N' Joy

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jasondotcom
post Mar 5 2010, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(snakesolidus @ Mar 5 2010, 04:09 PM)
i had the same case also, the SC poured the whole bottle of 4L during my 1st service.
is there anyway, i can drain those extra oil out?

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depends where u are.... any workshops outside can do. just be ready for at least RM10 labor tho.
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post Mar 5 2010, 05:56 PM

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my loan for persona SE is finally approved today rclxms.gif and i got max loan for it ( graduate scheme under 30yrs ol ) !!! blink.gif

my guts are telling me that to wait for the facelifted version or to hold the loan becuz, normally when facelift model appears, old stock will be discounted

how long can i hold my loan eh ? a friend told me that u can only hold it for 2 month? unsure.gif
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i think of getting 1 also..My aim now is M-Line MT. Haiz..my 130Y worth very little. Sian.....
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post Mar 5 2010, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(NSX_MY @ Mar 5 2010, 04:04 PM)
can you post the meter at night please? i wanna know how it looks like during at night smile.gif
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cant... cause is not mine.. haha laugh.gif

that picture i get from i internet de.. but the meter really nice lah.. suka it manyak... drool.gif

bit bit regret not taking se...
no auto cruise and the nice meter... whistling.gif

maybe u can ask some other SE owner to post it loh... btw.. please post.. i wanna see that meter at night too... drool.gif
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post Mar 5 2010, 07:41 PM

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[quote=aca1,Mar 4 2010, 11:51 PM]

Added on March 3, 2010, 8:55 pm
i think you need to follow up with your sales agent and ask him to chase the bank. Mine settle all within one week.
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i did follow up,
but they say proton dint send da car yet sad.gif
n yesterday i go to their show room n i talk to the manager,
he oso cant tell me when i can get my car, doh.gif
last he say he will exchange 1 of their car to another branch to get my car cool2.gif
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good to hear that you had settle the thing rclxms.gif share some of your experience with us once you get the car ya! nod.gif


Added on March 5, 2010, 7:55 pm[quote=naley,Mar 5 2010, 03:54 PM]
haha..seems like he pour the whole bottle..but who knows right? hehehe brows.gif
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i think you can check the oil indicator... all of the cars do have one... you need to run your engine for few minutes, then turn off engine and check the oil indicator. the oil should be in the recommended zone area, any reading not in the recommended zone means you have to do something about it.

This post has been edited by vson: Mar 5 2010, 07:55 PM
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:19 PM

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my persona warranty mileage only shown as 50,000km in their system.

i thought the warranty should be at least 100,000km?
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post Mar 5 2010, 09:59 PM

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The part on Oils explained and Oil grades should make interesting reading -


http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/
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post Mar 5 2010, 10:20 PM

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[quote=vson,Mar 5 2010, 08:41 PM]
i did follow up,
but they say proton dint send da car yet sad.gif
n yesterday i go to their show room n i talk to the manager,
he oso cant tell me when i can get my car, doh.gif
last he say he will exchange 1 of their car to another branch to get my car cool2.gif
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[/quote]
good to hear that you had settle the thing rclxms.gif share some of your experience with us once you get the car ya! nod.gif


Added on March 5, 2010, 7:55 pm
i think you can check the oil indicator... all of the cars do have one... you need to run your engine for few minutes, then turn off engine and check the oil indicator. the oil should be in the recommended zone area, any reading not in the recommended zone means you have to do something about it.
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i thought we should check the lubricant oil when the engine is cold? all this while i am checking it when it was cold in the morning. because if the engine is started, of cos it will should lower level as the oil start to stick on the other parts in the internal of engine. we need give it sometime for all the lubricant oil to drop to the base before we get the measurement. as for the automatic gear oil, i know it need to let the engine warm up first before we take the measurement. correct me if i am wrong....
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QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Mar 5 2010, 02:56 PM)
dude.... 4L is overfilled. it does no good to your engine other than damaging it in the long term. Its really bad for the rubber oil seals, bad FC and bad for the general internal engine components.

Persona's engine need ONLY 3.7 litres of engine oil (anyone can correct me if im wrong on the exact amount of litres required).
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ur rite. 4L is even good enough for a 2.0L car. Remember my wife's Camry using all of one pack of 4L.

I have already done 2 oil changes, one at Proton Edar Jln 223 & another at dealer off Jln. Kepong using my own oil. I poured out about 300ml of my own oil into another container before going to SC. I think the 4L pack actually contains more than 4L.

Some interesting reading about over-filling of engine oil -

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...03013243AAmeQ6v


The SC's I went to had no qualms about me using my own semi 10W 40. Explained to them that the oil I am using is also a Proton vendor, Delphi.
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[quote=alt3ch,Mar 5 2010, 10:20 PM]
good to hear that you had settle the thing rclxms.gif share some of your experience with us once you get the car ya! nod.gif


Added on March 5, 2010, 7:55 pm
i think you can check the oil indicator... all of the cars do have one... you need to run your engine for few minutes, then turn off engine and check the oil indicator. the oil should be in the recommended zone area, any reading not in the recommended zone means you have to do something about it.
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[/quote]

i thought we should check the lubricant oil when the engine is cold? all this while i am checking it when it was cold in the morning. because if the engine is started, of cos it will should lower level as the oil start to stick on the other parts in the internal of engine. we need give it sometime for all the lubricant oil to drop to the base before we get the measurement. as for the automatic gear oil, i know it need to let the engine warm up first before we take the measurement. correct me if i am wrong....
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actually is a interesting info to share on this... usually the mechanic (not proton service center) will do this way... i don't know why, seems that most of the mechanic will warm up the oil a bit then only measure hmm.gif


Added on March 5, 2010, 11:00 pm[quote=rckh,Mar 5 2010, 09:59 PM]
The part on Oils explained and Oil grades should make interesting reading -


http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/
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thanks for sharing... it is indeed very interesting... nod.gif


Added on March 5, 2010, 11:35 pm[quote=chteh0721,Mar 5 2010, 09:19 PM]
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my persona warranty mileage only shown as 50,000km in their system.

i thought the warranty should be at least 100,000km?
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ya, why huh? the catalog of the persona says under 5 years warranty or 175,000km which ever comes first... how come the bill says 50,000km only???
i did ask the SA last time on this issue, he said that the first 2 years is warranty under proton, and the rest of the 3 years extended is warranty under alliance insurance. And the other thing is, What is the standard service interval? The catalog says is 10,000km. is it true?

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heavencloud,
who kick dirt to me, i put shit on their face. As simple as that.

I test drove it in Tg Malim and see it myself....it is good. I'm ready to trade in my old Ford.
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QUOTE(chteh0721 @ Mar 5 2010, 09:19 PM)
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my persona warranty mileage only shown as 50,000km in their system.

i thought the warranty should be at least 100,000km?
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uiks... did u ask the sc about it? blink.gif

QUOTE(alt3ch @ Mar 5 2010, 10:20 PM)
good to hear that you had settle the thing  rclxms.gif  share some of your experience with us once you get the car ya!  nod.gif


Added on March 5, 2010, 7:55 pm
i think you can check the oil indicator... all of the cars do have one... you need to run your engine for few minutes, then turn off engine and check the oil indicator. the oil should be in the recommended zone area, any reading not in the recommended zone means you have to do something about it.
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i thought we should check the lubricant oil when the engine is cold? all this while i am checking it when it was cold in the morning. because if the engine is started, of cos it will should lower level as the oil start to stick on the other parts in the internal of engine. we need give it sometime for all the lubricant oil to drop to the base before we get the measurement. as for the automatic gear oil, i know it need to let the engine warm up first before we take the measurement. correct me if i am wrong....
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ermmm.... i think logically better check the oil level during hot. This is my own theory, but let say you measure during cold just barely touching the max level, by the time the engine is starting and heating up, the oil molecule composition will expand thus creating an overfill situation.
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QUOTE(alt3ch @ Mar 5 2010, 10:20 PM)
i thought we should check the lubricant oil when the engine is cold? all this while i am checking it when it was cold in the morning. because if the engine is started, of cos it will should lower level as the oil start to stick on the other parts in the internal of engine. we need give it sometime for all the lubricant oil to drop to the base before we get the measurement. as for the automatic gear oil, i know it need to let the engine warm up first before we take the measurement. correct me if i am wrong....
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yes you are right...best is too check the engine oil level in the morning before starting the engine....other than that, even you off your engine for few hours, it does take sometime to get accurate results...so best is morning when its cold....never crack the engine yet..... a lot machanics does not know the way of checking it which they normally start the engine to make it run for few seconds, then check.... doh.gif doh.gif

as for the automatic gear oil....warm up the engine, then shift P>R>N>D>3>2>L by pressing the brake then shift all the way back to N and leave it for few seconds and check the level...


Added on March 6, 2010, 12:30 am
QUOTE(jasondotcom @ Mar 5 2010, 02:56 PM)
dude.... 4L is overfilled. it does no good to your engine other than damaging it in the long term. Its really bad for the rubber oil seals, bad FC and bad for the general internal engine components.

Persona's engine need ONLY 3.7 litres of engine oil (anyone can correct me if im wrong on the exact amount of litres required).
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yes....3.7liters is the accurate engine oil level needed...even 3.5liters is more than enough as it will be slightly lower frm the max line...

This post has been edited by loong2020: Mar 6 2010, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Mar 6 2010, 12:25 AM)
yes you are right...best is too check the engine oil level in the morning before starting the engine....other than that, even you off your engine for few hours, it does take sometime to get accurate results...so best is morning when its cold....never crack the engine yet..... a lot machanics does not know the way of checking it which they normally start the engine to make it run for few seconds, then check.... doh.gif  doh.gif

as for the automatic gear oil....warm up the engine, then shift P>R>N>D>3>2>L by pressing the brake then shift all the way back to N and leave it for few seconds and check the level...


Added on March 6, 2010, 12:30 am
yes....3.7liters is the accurate engine oil level needed...even 3.5liters is more than enough as it will be slightly lower frm the max line...
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What you stated is all correct. And yes and yes again and again..... checking engine oil while it has been stopped for quite a while eg. 10 to 15 mins or so..... and early morning before engine start is THE BEST time to check. That is the real oil requirement of the engine. Nothing else.

There is no rationale behind the theories other than this. PERIOD.
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QUOTE(yhanwong @ Mar 5 2010, 06:17 PM)
cant... cause is not mine..  haha laugh.gif

that picture i get from i internet de.. but the meter really nice lah.. suka it manyak...  drool.gif

bit bit regret not taking se...
no auto cruise and the nice meter...  whistling.gif

maybe u can ask some other SE owner to post it loh... btw.. please post.. i wanna see that meter at night too... drool.gif
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maybe tomorrow i take a pic of it at night and post here for u all to see.
it's indeed very nice wub.gif
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The only thing nice about the facelifted model is the indicator light integrated into side mirrors.

I still dont fancy the front fascia, too overly odd for a car like Persona.
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any of u suffering from brake judder / vibration? shit man..... mine judder / vibration during braking from 100KMH or more....

Steering vibrate meaning front disc brake and brake pedal vibration is rear drums.... both out. Shit man...... why????????????????

Proton does cover this for warranty right? Current mileage just hit 10k. icon_question.gif

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Later go SC check front right driver side wheel kik kok sound.

hope can solve it... smile.gif
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QUOTE(heavencloud @ Mar 6 2010, 12:03 AM)
uiks... did u ask the sc about it?  blink.gif
ermmm.... i think logically better check the oil level during hot. This is my own theory, but let say you measure during cold just barely touching the max level, by the time the engine is starting and heating up, the oil molecule composition will expand thus creating an overfill situation.
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i forgot to ask, maybe ask it next time, just realize it when i do filing at home
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yesterday i just collected my car from SC for 5k service and bodyworks, guess what? my rear brake drum tick sound is finally solved! They finally fixed it no sound clicking and my whole brake system is now a lot better than before (just press a bit on brake pedal straight away can feel the force is pulling back the car), guess i no need to worry for changing a better brake pad smile.gif even my handbrake i just need to pull up with 1 tick sound is sufficient enough to stop the whole car from the steep area smile.gif very satisfied with their job now. They even help me to install the orifice valve for free although its not 100% fixed.

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the knocking and paintjob are nicely done as well, no one will know my car is being knocked before cool2.gif

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