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post Feb 18 2010, 11:28 AM, updated 16y ago

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Simple Economic Rule of Thumb:
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Great, v7 already.
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post Feb 18 2010, 11:48 AM

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yeah. hopefuly v7 will be more active n cheerful version. if anyone had anything to add into post 1 to 3, just let me know.
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Is this the latest forex v7? So the forex v6 ended?
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QUOTE(rstusa @ Feb 18 2010, 05:42 PM)
Is this the latest forex v7? So the forex v6 ended?
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post Feb 18 2010, 07:06 PM

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yup. v6 was closed by mod already.
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post Feb 18 2010, 08:45 PM

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Euro getting ready to reverse direction biggrin.gif
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post Feb 18 2010, 10:00 PM

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congrats for the v7 opening...happy trading!
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post Feb 18 2010, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 18 2010, 08:45 PM)
Euro getting ready to reverse direction biggrin.gif
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Nice call.. I see railway tracks, pinbar, prev S/R, and 55% fib retracement on the daily chart around 1.3735. Thats a strong confluence area but i think it still got some sideways action to go through.

btw this is a very good thread.. he uses the same technique like ff legend jacko. I really recommend it to others.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=2331



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post Feb 18 2010, 11:50 PM

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nice posting myvi.


atm, it went well with GU pair. there's probility for the pair to break current support 1 (1.5563), and went down to around 1.5600 tomoro. if it did, the trend is sooooo...very slow. laugh.gifi was wrong.


EDIT: can someone check my post 2 on simple economic rule of thumb? is anything wrong? or anything to add?

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Feb 18 2010, 11:50 PM)
nice posting myvi.
atm, it went well with GU pair. there's probility for the pair to break current support 1 (1.5563), and went down to around 1.5600 tomoro. if it did, the trend is sooooo...very slow. laugh.gifi was wrong.
EDIT: can someone check my post 2 on simple economic rule of thumb? is anything wrong? or anything to add?
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are you making profits from GU?... rolleyes.gif

GBP/USD falls below 1.5500 for the first time since May... arggghhh!...GU~owh~GU~... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Feb 19 2010, 07:57 AM)
are you making profits from GU?... rolleyes.gif

GBP/USD falls below 1.5500 for the first time since May... arggghhh!...GU~owh~GU~... sweat.gif
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yerp ...i'm getting more during bearish period :-)

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Feb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Following is the text of a statement today from the Federal Reserve in Washington:

The Federal Reserve Board on Thursday announced that in light of continued improvement in financial market conditions it had unanimously approved several modifications to the terms of its discount window lending programs.

Like the closure of a number of extraordinary credit programs earlier this month, these changes are intended as a further normalization of the Federal Reserve’s lending facilities. The modifications are not expected to lead to tighter financial conditions for households and businesses and do not signal any change in the outlook for the economy or for monetary policy, which remains about as it was at the January meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC). At that meeting, the Committee left its target range for the federal funds rate at 0 to 1/4 percent and said it anticipates that economic conditions are likely to warrant exceptionally low levels of the federal funds rate for an extended period.

The changes to the discount window facilities include Board approval of requests by the boards of directors of the 12 Federal Reserve Banks to increase the primary credit rate (generally referred to as the discount rate) from 1/2 percent to
3/4 percent. This action is effective on February 19.

In addition, the Board announced that, effective on March 18, the typical maximum maturity for primary credit loans will be shortened to overnight. Primary credit is provided by Reserve Banks on a fully secured basis to depository institutions that are in generally sound condition as a backup source of funds.
Finally, the Board announced that it had raised the minimum bid rate for the Term Auction Facility (TAF) by 1/4 percentage point to 1/2 percent. The final TAF auction will be on March 8, 2010.

Easing the terms of primary credit was one of the Federal Reserve’s first responses to the financial crisis. On August 17, 2007, the Federal Reserve reduced the spread of the primary credit rate over the FOMC’s target for the federal funds rate to
1/2 percentage point, from 1 percentage point, and lengthened the typical maximum maturity from overnight to 30 days. On December 12, 2007, the Federal Reserve created the TAF to further improve the access of depository institutions to term funding. On March 16, 2008, the Federal Reserve lowered the spread of the primary credit rate over the target federal funds rate to 1/4 percentage point and extended the maximum maturity of primary credit loans to 90 days.

Subsequently, in response to improving conditions in wholesale funding markets, on June 25, 2009, the Federal Reserve initiated a gradual reduction in TAF auction sizes. As announced on November 17, 2009, and implemented on January 14, 2010, the Federal Reserve began the process of normalizing the terms on primary credit by reducing the typical maximum maturity to 28 days.

The increase in the discount rate announced Thursday widens the spread between the primary credit rate and the top of the FOMC’s 0 to 1/4 percent target range for the federal funds rate to 1/2 percentage point. The increase in the spread and reduction in maximum maturity will encourage depository institutions to rely on private funding markets for short-term credit and to use the Federal Reserve’s primary credit facility only as a backup source of funds. The Federal Reserve will assess over time whether further increases in the spread are appropriate in view of experience with the 1/2 percentage point spread.

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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Feb 19 2010, 07:57 AM)
are you making profits from GU?... rolleyes.gif

GBP/USD falls below 1.5500 for the first time since May... arggghhh!...GU~owh~GU~... sweat.gif
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i got both profits n loses laugh.gif but more importantly, i'm profitting from GU atm even at low. np with that. should hv thanked james Chen from --> here. his chart makes sense

so..today we got more usd n eur news than gbp. i wonder what will happen to gbp. will it go down further till support 3 or even below that?


Added on February 19, 2010, 8:33 am
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Feb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Following is the text of a statement today from the Federal Reserve in Washington:

The Federal Reserve Board on Thursday announced that in light of continued improvement in financial market conditions it had unanimously approved several modifications to the terms of its discount window lending programs.

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yerp ..i told you so :-)

this period is bearish mode ...just surf the trend ..never against them
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kevler: yeah...thanks to u too.
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as what i mentioned on last thread , UJ having bullish mode ..

UJ already pushed from 91.xx and still in bullish movement
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I wont be constantly short GU or EU. Go check your charts again. Back when GU was 1.50, everybody said it will go down to 1.30 and so forth, it rebounded back to 1.60 within couple of months.
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 19 2010, 09:04 AM)
I wont be constantly short GU or EU. Go check your charts again. Back when GU was 1.50, everybody said it will go down to 1.30 and so forth, it rebounded back to 1.60 within couple of months.
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agreed !

during that time , in monthly chart , it shows weak bull where GU is rallying from 1.36xx to 1.7xxx ..and somehow now , GU in correction mode back in 3-4 month before.

but currently GU is back to dive again :-)

that is what i saw in the chart :-)



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QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 18 2010, 06:19 PM)
agreed !

during that time , in monthly chart , it shows weak bull where GU is rallying from 1.36xx to 1.7xxx ..and somehow now , GU in correction mode back in 3-4 month before.

but currently GU is back to dive again :-)

that is what i saw in the chart :-)
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GU is in the dive again because the market is trying to price in what the fed will do in the next policy meeting after the discount hike. But that doesn't mean USD has no problems of its own.


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QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 19 2010, 08:54 AM)
as what i mentioned on last thread , UJ having bullish mode ..

UJ already pushed from 91.xx and still in bullish movement
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I got fooled by fake UJ trend breakout yesterday.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 18 2010, 06:19 PM)
agreed !

during that time , in monthly chart , it shows weak bull where GU is rallying from 1.36xx to 1.7xxx ..and somehow now , GU in correction mode back in 3-4 month before.

but currently GU is back to dive again :-)

that is what i saw in the chart :-)
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I see capitulation

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 19 2010, 09:28 AM)
GU is in the dive again because the market is trying to price in what the fed will do in the next policy meeting after the discount hike. But that doesn't mean USD has no problems of its own.
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I am really weak in the fundamentals and how the currencies react from one another.. where do u learn all this stuff? sweat.gif
Hope after i finish reading Economics for Dummies book i understand better..
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i hv updated new news/commentary/etc. those who want to share theirs pls post in below format. if any points u want to stress in the news, hope u can bold it or even better if highlighted. i'll update in 3rd post after that.

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 19 2010, 10:05 AM)
I see capitulation
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what is capitulation, in this context ? enlighten me please
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QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 18 2010, 07:55 PM)
what is capitulation, in this context  ? enlighten me please
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Those who went long in the range of 1.35-1.36 got stopped out early this morning as the Fed raised the discount rate. By understanding the behavior of the herd, now more and more people are jumping aboard to short euro due to the Fed's discount hike. And market has always taught you that if doomsayers are coming out and saying euro will reach parity to the dollar , etc, doesn't it usually mean a reversal is coming?
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Because we don't do forex in Malaysia perhaps? smile.gif
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QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 19 2010, 08:10 AM)
yerp ...i'm getting more during bearish period :-)

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cool!...mine got stuck!...

QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 19 2010, 08:34 AM)
yerp ..i told you so :-)

this period is bearish mode ...just surf the trend ..never against them
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this motto been playing in my head...but still against the trend...guess,need to understand the term trend properly?... doh.gif

QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 19 2010, 08:54 AM)
as what i mentioned on last thread , UJ having bullish mode ..

UJ already pushed from 91.xx and still in bullish movement
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got stuck in UJ also...seems it going up...need to wait till it get down...by now its slowly going... sweat.gif

QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 19 2010, 11:01 AM)
Those who went long in the range of 1.35-1.36 got stopped out early this morning as the Fed raised the discount rate. By understanding the behavior of the herd, now more and more people are jumping aboard to short euro due to the Fed's discount hike. And market has always taught you that if doomsayers are coming out and saying euro will reach parity to the dollar , etc, doesn't it usually mean a reversal is coming?
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yups!...it happened both to EU and GU...
again...the technique of reversal thingy made me wonder how to act?...didn't manage to join the forces...

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QUOTE(0110 @ Feb 19 2010, 11:30 AM)
Why is forex thread still here if the Government announced that Forex is illegal in Malaysia?
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http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost.php?p...postcount=21947
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Feb 19 2010, 11:45 AM)
again...the technique of reversal thingy made me wonder how to act?...didn't manage to join the forces...
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from my experience , if you experience reversal thingy , just stay away from the market ...it helps you to regenerate again your idea on market trend

trust me , i've been there too :-)
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i'm closing the GU pairs biggrin.gif they r waiting for tonite (gmt+8) news.


UK retail sales may down..most probably.

EU news shall shake both GBP n USD. the effect shall be more on GBP than USD.

US news...expect GU pairs to reach below support 3. as the week ends.


am i on track? what do u think?

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Feb 18 2010, 09:56 PM)
i'm closing the GU pairs biggrin.gif they r waiting for tonite (gmt+8) news.
UK retail sales may down..most probably.

EU news shall shake both GBP n USD. the effect shall be more on GBP than USD.

US news...expect GU pairs to reach below support 3. as the week ends.
am i on track? what do u think?
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First of all, i want to ask you if you have ever thought that the market has priced in bad news in both pounds and euro?


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that is the bad side of me. honestly, i'm not. cant think of what would happen if EU got bad news.


btw, it happen just now. i was closing all GU pairs trade. simultaneously. i.e:

GBP/USD loss: 0.33 per pips (buy) - 8 items @ 0.33 total
GBP/USD profit: 0.54 per pips (sell) - 1 item @ 0.50

profit at time of close: 13.00

as all was closed, i notice the software close all buy, but 1 left sell. previously 0.50 sell was cut to 0.17 sell, at same sell price. that can happen meh? i never know that before.
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Feb 18 2010, 11:59 PM)
that is the bad side of me. honestly, i'm not. cant think of what would happen if EU got bad news.
btw, it happen just now. i was closing all GU pairs trade. simultaneously. i.e:

GBP/USD loss: 0.33 per pips (buy) - 8 items @ 0.33 total
GBP/USD profit: 0.54 per pips (sell) - 1 item @ 0.50

profit at time of close: 13.00

as all was closed, i notice the software close all buy, but 1 left sell. previously 0.50 sell was cut to 0.17 sell, at same sell price. that can happen meh? i never know that before.
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Ok, try to think outside the bell curve, think of extreme events.

IF euro data comes out to be bad, how many pips do you think it will go down from here? Another 100? 200? 300?

What if the data turns out to be good?

So ask yourself this: What's my downside and upside risk ? (depending on which trade you take)


Added on February 19, 2010, 3:04 pmNote:

If you have noticed, companies are hiking up their dividends, and repaying shareholders. This itself is a sign that the companies are confident going forward.

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u r refering to which pair? GU? EU? EG? lets pretend the data ain't out yet.

GU: it has no direct relation with EUR. the effect wont be much. more up n down in relation to EU n EG.

EU: cant say much, it'll be about than 50, no more than 100

EG: also the same. not much...around 50.


btw, i'm aiming for GU to drop further below resistant support 3. its my main pair compared to EU and EG.




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change resistance to support. sry...typo. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Feb 19 2010, 04:57 PM)
u r refering to which pair? GU? EU? EG? lets pretend the data ain't out yet.

GU: it has no direct relation with EUR. the effect wont be much. more up n down in relation to EU n EG.

EU: cant say much, it'll be about than 50, no more than 100

EG: also the same. not much...around 50.
btw, i'm aiming for GU to drop further below resistant 3. its my main pair compared to EU and EG.
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your position for GU is selling?...
does the 5.30pm news give big impacts to GU or GBP pairs?... or probably 9.30pm news will give bad/good impacts?... unsure.gif
from what I see in higher TF...its still a down-trend... sweat.gif
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im for both. sell for long trend. short is buy...close at every 10 to 20 pips. i'm also shorting sell. long sell is what i sell above support 3. below support 3, all goes to short.

GBP news at 1730 GMT+8..it has high impact. becoz of it, the pair goes below support 3 (sry..previous post should be support). see the graph pic. drop almost 50 pips in M1 timeline. i still cant believe it. probably wont go above till end of day. 12 hours more to go

btw, i'm new to forex. dont count on my speculation too much. it is better if some otai could give his opinion for what i wrote.


Added on February 19, 2010, 6:27 pm2130 GMT+8 is all that's left. expecting GU pair wont go above support 3. if the news was good, then, be ready for another GU free fall, probably all the way to 1.5300. maybe bro kevlar can belanja us all. he sure profits a lot. about USD 800 if he still didn't close the deal posted previously.

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1st post updated.

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im for both. sell for long trend. short is buy...close at every 10 to 20 pips. i'm also shorting sell. long sell is what i sell above support 3. below support 3, all goes to short.

GBP news at 1730 GMT+8..it has high impact. becoz of it, the pair goes below support 3 (sry..previous post should be support). see the graph pic. drop almost 50 pips in M1 timeline. i still cant believe it. probably wont go above till end of day. 12 hours more to go

btw, i'm new to forex. dont count on my speculation too much. it is better if some otai could give his opinion for what i wrote.


Added on February 19, 2010, 6:27 pm2130 GMT+8 is all that's left. expecting GU pair wont go above support 3. if the news was good, then, be ready for another GU free fall, probably all the way to 1.5300. maybe bro kevlar can belanja us all. he sure profits a lot. about USD 800 if he still didn't close the deal posted previously.
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the news is out...GU and EU is doing the climbing up(as for now)... unsure.gif
is there any big impact towards USD pairs?...nothing much(or did i missed something?) hmm.gif

did you managed to closed anything?... cool2.gif

QUOTE(Minimayo @ Feb 20 2010, 12:32 AM)
last time i use to hear that fxopen did not pay the customer when they withdraw the money, its around 2 yrs ago. But recently see there are many of fxopen advertisement/banners in most forums i surf. I will think of trying with mini account with fxopen.
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the news is out...GU and EU is doing the climbing up(as for now)... unsure.gif
is there any big impact towards USD pairs?...nothing much(or did i missed something?)  hmm.gif

did you managed to closed anything?... cool2.gif
so what's your choices then?...all the best in trading... smile.gif
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Having 1 account with marketiva (easy and convenient because i can easily fund my money with LR , but make sure that you keep this account with small amount) , 1 account with IBFX (so far so good) , according to my friend alpari-UK is great too, anyone here try alpari - UK ?
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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Feb 20 2010, 12:34 AM)
the news is out...GU and EU is doing the climbing up(as for now)... unsure.gif
is there any big impact towards USD pairs?...nothing much(or did i missed something?)  hmm.gif

did you managed to closed anything?... cool2.gif
so what's your choices then?...all the best in trading... smile.gif
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yup. closed a few..too bad. why bad news? next time maybe sad.gif

quite a climb they make there.

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QUOTE(Minimayo @ Feb 20 2010, 01:02 AM)
Having 1 account with marketiva (easy and convenient because i can easily fund my money with LR , but make sure that you keep this account with small amount) , 1 account with IBFX (so far so good) , according to my friend alpari-UK is great too, anyone here try alpari - UK ?
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i used alpari-uk. quite low spread, but their problem is pricing is quoted with 5 digits, say EUR USD at 1.54321.
i find it very confusing,though they claim its advantageous in seeing a more accurate pricing.

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i used alpari-uk. quite low spread, but their problem is pricing is quoted with 5 digits, say EUR USD at 1.54321.
i find it very confusing,though they claim its advantageous in seeing a more accurate pricing.
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5 decimal points? pips changes must be tiresome.


Added on February 20, 2010, 11:24 amwhat ir ur opinion on this? --> http://forexmagnates.com/forex-binary-opti...false-breakout/ and next week event n pairs movement?

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QUOTE(unknowndevices @ Feb 20 2010, 12:34 AM)
the news is out...GU and EU is doing the climbing up(as for now)... unsure.gif
is there any big impact towards USD pairs?...nothing much(or did i missed something?)  hmm.gif

did you managed to closed anything?... cool2.gif
so what's your choices then?...all the best in trading... smile.gif
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Both GU and EU got pinbar on the daily chart.. Its a possible setup for me..
The plan is to wait for retest of 50% retracement of the pinbar for confirmation.. looking for long.. target around 1.5600 round number for GU. I dont like the pinbar on EU..shadow not long enough.
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Well, if you think way deeper, a lower euro and pounds are a positive for future economic data release. Of course, market will always try to price in future fair value of each currency base on the respective countries' economic strength. And although it seems like Europe is in deep sh** right now, it doesn't necessary mean that Germany and France won't do well. With a weaker euro, Germany and France will benefit the most compare to the others. All and all, we have yet to see what germany plans to do with greece, but i suspect a big reversal is coming soon for euro.
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QUOTE(J(o)y @ Feb 20 2010, 09:38 AM)
i used alpari-uk. quite low spread, but their problem is pricing is quoted with 5 digits, say EUR USD at 1.54321.
i find it very confusing,though they claim its advantageous in seeing a more accurate pricing.
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Alpari 5 digit system is more precise.. but it can mess around with your custom indicators..especially anyhing related to money management, spread and range indicators. I've mess around the settings but I cant find a way to switch to 4 digits.. in the end i switch to fxdd.
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so, instaforex is in scam list? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Feb 21 2010, 07:19 AM)
so, instaforex is in scam list? shocking.gif
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Majority people go with big market maker broker.. big names like ibfx, oanda, alpari, mb trading etc.. Its really up to you to pick which is the best for u.


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I am preparing to long GU and EU, now waiting for confirmation.
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looks like manual day trading is taking its tol on me.. tired, everytime I wanna go sleep I have position on and need to clear bfore I log.. just 30mins later its start to go further, nothing is more frustating when you took profit early and see it runs to hundreds of pips after you went out... Looks like im gonna have to make my own ea... delving into c programming now.. anyone here a programer?
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u can learn mql programming here.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=209384

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QUOTE(Sham903n @ Feb 21 2010, 11:51 AM)
looks like manual day trading is taking its tol on me.. tired, everytime I wanna go sleep I have position on and need to clear bfore I log.. just 30mins later its start to go further, nothing is more frustating when you took profit early and see it runs to hundreds of pips after you went out... Looks like im gonna have to make my own ea... delving into c programming now.. anyone here a programer?
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anybody into fibonacci retracement and extension? in the middle of real confusion rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Feb 21 2010, 12:13 PM)
u can learn mql programming here.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=209384

This is where I learn the basic
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thanks bro..

reading it thru now...
good recommendation smile.gif rclxms.gif


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Youre intraday bro? move to the daily and 4h chart la..much less stress.  Naked chart ftw.  biggrin.gif
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gonna give it a shot if its fits the trading plan & target
was thinking of this too.. but trading plan base on intraday..
going for ea first... plan b - what you suggested smile.gif

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Feb 21 2010, 07:45 AM)
Some people say Instaforex is a bucket shop.  Personally, I would not want to park my money there. Their bonuses and aggressive promotion makes me wary. 
Majority people go with big market maker broker.. big names like ibfx, oanda, alpari, mb trading etc.. Its really up to you to pick which is the best for u.
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i'm with them cuz its my fren said they good. he been with instaforex for 1 year n nothing happens. i'll see later. gonna spam few hundreds profits 1st. then i'll decide to go on with them or not.


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I am preparing to long GU and EU, now waiting for confirmation.
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probably. long bull? cuz i read the star. reuters news said us may hv higher debt. about 1.5 trillion. thats a lot. not good for their currency n economy.


QUOTE(Sham903n @ Feb 21 2010, 11:51 AM)
looks like manual day trading is taking its tol on me.. tired, everytime I wanna go sleep I have position on and need to clear bfore I log.. just 30mins later its start to go further, nothing is more frustating when you took profit early and see it runs to hundreds of pips after you went out... Looks like im gonna have to make my own ea... delving into c programming now.. anyone here a programer?
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dont regret. i'm also like u, but just satisfied with what i got. perhaps u should start analysing the situation for 4-5 hours ahead?
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Guys, can i ask, how do wire transfer work and is it every bank can wire transfer?

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possibility movement by UCAD , from elliot wave point of view



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anybody into fibonacci retracement and extension? in the middle of real confusion rclxub.gif
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I use fibo fan, retracement, and channel.

PM me, and lets see if i can help.


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Guys, can i ask, how do wire transfer work and is it every bank can wire transfer?
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Yes I believe every bank nowadays can do wire transfer. I use maybank and rhb, both also can. Maybank cheaper, but prepare for inter-bank charges around usd20.
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Guys, can someone try the frwc's fusion-v robot/ea. Its expensive, $999 for one time payment(discount 19%) or $599 for the first month and another $599 for next month. I hear its profitable, can anyone try so my dad can trust it XD

http://www.forex-robot-world-cup.com/
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QUOTE(visioncored @ Feb 22 2010, 09:55 AM)
Guys, can someone try the frwc's fusion-v robot/ea. Its expensive, $999 for one time payment(discount 19%) or $599 for the first month and another $599 for next month. I hear its profitable, can anyone try so my dad can trust it XD

http://www.forex-robot-world-cup.com/
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Do you think people here will try? Unless got crack version, LOL
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Do not use EA or robot if you are a beginner. Trade demo at least 3 months before opening live micro account. Find a good system using simple indicators first.. moving average and price action is the best indicator in my opinion.

EA is for experience traders that know how to read price action differentiate between a valid signal and a false one.
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QUOTE(visioncored @ Feb 22 2010, 09:55 AM)
Guys, can someone try the frwc's fusion-v robot/ea. Its expensive, $999 for one time payment(discount 19%) or $599 for the first month and another $599 for next month. I hear its profitable, can anyone try so my dad can trust it XD

http://www.forex-robot-world-cup.com/
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if u can't convince ur own dad, wat makes u think u can convince anybody here.

Btw, i have a big project that needs RM1 bln financing. ur dad wana lend?

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QUOTE(Aloong @ Feb 21 2010, 07:57 PM)
if u can't convince ur own dad, wat makes u think u can convince anybody here.

Btw, i have a big project that needs RM1 bln financing. ur dad wana lend?
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So the guy wants us to be the guinea pig?
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aiyer ...dont be guinea pig ..my closed-colleague want to trade his money under my account , but frankly speaking , i'm not that kind of ppl to take risk on other's people money
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QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 22 2010, 12:21 PM)
aiyer ...dont be guinea pig ..my closed-colleague want to trade his money under my account , but frankly speaking , i'm not that kind of ppl to take risk on other's people money
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Better don't, it will not give you peace of mind, unless you really want to be a money manager.

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aiyer ...dont be guinea pig ..my closed-colleague want to trade his money under my account , but frankly speaking , i'm not that kind of ppl to take risk on other's people money
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Sharing is ok, but trading on behalf on other better not smile.gif
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Anyone here have indicator to show yesterday/previous bar's closing price? Searched thru forex-tsd and forex factory, no luck. Please share if anyone here having it.

TQVM
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bulkbiz: u mean the one from friday trade? check 3rd post.
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Hi Guys, newbei here. any 1 trading EUR/US on M1 chart?
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Feb 22 2010, 07:23 PM)
bulkbiz: u mean the one from friday trade? check 3rd post.
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Raymondetc: not recommend trading at M1, unless u will be in front of pc 24/7 or u r one of those full time forex trader. but if one really did great at M1. it is one of faster way farming money from forex

i myself frequently on M1, just for shorting. sometimes to compare n analyze current situation.

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QUOTE(visioncored @ Feb 22 2010, 09:55 AM)
Guys, can someone try the frwc's fusion-v robot/ea. Its expensive, $999 for one time payment(discount 19%) or $599 for the first month and another $599 for next month. I hear its profitable, can anyone try so my dad can trust it XD

http://www.forex-robot-world-cup.com/
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Don't bother using it because its tested to wipe your account if trend goes against you.

QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Feb 22 2010, 05:08 PM)
Anyone here have indicator to show yesterday/previous bar's closing price? Searched thru forex-tsd and forex factory, no luck. Please share if anyone here having it.

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You can try ask FFF programmer to code it for you FREE biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Feb 22 2010, 05:08 PM)
Anyone here have indicator to show yesterday/previous bar's closing price? Searched thru forex-tsd and forex factory, no luck. Please share if anyone here having it.

TQVM
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Got.. it's called the Horizontal Line... come on.. don't be so lazy. I can understand if you need an indicator to help you calculate pivot points and fibo quickly but it doesn't take long just to change the timeframe and draw in the lines.
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m1 is risky unless u are doing scalping, or take m1 to find for a good entry point for your trading
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Yes, understand M1 is very risky & stressful & time comsumming. Am trying scalping and guerila. i have the time as i'm unemployed at the moment. learning to control my stress, emotion & patience.

Any secret weapon on your arsenal for M1?
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The Reality about Leverage

Leverage has become a scapegoat for poor risk management in trading. I feel as if leverage is being blamed more and more without anyone taking a moment to think what the real problem is. First, let's take a step back for those of you who don't know what I am talking about. For the purposes of this article, we will assume "leverage" refers to trading, specifically forex trading.

Leverage is the amount of currency one can control relative to the amount of capital one has. That's it. In forex, most traders have 100:1 leverage. That means for every one dollar of capital a trader has, they can control one hundred dollars. At first glance, it is not hard to see why that ratio could scare someone who hasn't had much experience with forex. I have seen and heard all sorts of theories that basically refer to leverage as the devil. Some go so far as to say that leverage should be abolished completely. Now let's look at the reality of the issue.

Let's say that a trader has $10,000 in their account, and they trade with a $10,000 lot size (or mini lots). Let's also say that their maximum leverage is reduced to only 10:1. Now let's say the trader wants to buy the GBP/USD. The highest number of mini lots they could buy at present prices would be 6. That means that each pip would be worth $6 if they traded the maximum amount of GBP/USD they could. Let's say that the trader's plan calls for a conservative risk of 3% per trade. In other words, the trader is willing to risk $300 (3% of their equity) on a given trade. This means that they would be unable to risk their full amount unless the trade called for their stop to be at least 50 pips from their entry.

Now, many readers will probably be ok with that. However, consider that the trader in the above example has maxed out their capital. In other words, they would not be able to enter another position until that trade (or at least part of the trade) is closed out. Furthermore, there are plenty of traders out there that have tighter stops than 50 pips in their strategy. If leverage was eliminated completely, keep in mind the trader above would have to have a distance of 500 pips from entry to stop to be able to max out their 3% risk. That would eliminate most strategies.

Therefore, it is easy to see that leverage is essential to most strategies in the forex market. If leverage did not exist, it would be very difficult to take advantage of every trading opportunity. I am not endorsing maximizing leverage and taking a ten full lot position in the USD/JPY with a $10,000 account. That would be unreasonable. But the issue isn't leverage, it is poor risk management. High leverage only reduces the amount of capital required to have a given position. I could trade with 100:1 leverage or 100,000:1 leverage and I would risk the same amount. The only difference is the amount of capital required to take the position. I would never need 100,000:1 leverage (no one would), but it wouldn't be any riskier than 100:1 if you used proper risk management.

In my mind, proper risk management means planning our entry and exits before placing any trade. Only after identifying the distance between the entry and the stop should a trader determine their position size. The position size should be adjusted so that the trader is able to risk the same amount on each trade. This process is discussed in further detail here .

The point is that leverage is not the enemy. If a trader plans their trades so they are risking a small amount of capital on each trade, very high leverage will not have a negative effect. However, low leverage (or no leverage) could severely limit a trader's potential of success because the trader may not have enough capital to enter a full position and/or multiple positions at the same time. Keep in mind I am not talking about huge positions, we are talking about the ability to risk 3% of one's account. In closing, remember that with proper risk management and trade planning, leverage is a tool that is there to help you.

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Feb 23 2010, 09:20 AM)
Got.. it's called the Horizontal Line... come on.. don't be so lazy. I can understand if you need an indicator to help you calculate pivot points and fibo quickly but it doesn't take long just to change the timeframe and draw in the lines.
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Shorted GJ with the kauness. smile.gif

Let's wait and see if China surprises.
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Why short GJ?
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Mama mia to E/U wat happened? whne up so high..

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Is it not look like euro movement but usd.
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Thank you Minimayo & Invinci_Z for the feedback.
Yes, understand M1 is very risky & stressful & time comsumming. Am trying scalping and guerila. i have the time as i'm unemployed at the moment. learning to control my stress, emotion & patience.

Any secret weapon on your arsenal for M1?
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I stumble upon this thread when trolling ff.. system looks good for 1 minute in my humble opinion..

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=156106
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Why short GJ?
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Eur/Jpy chart http://tweetphoto.com/12258412

thanks to GregaHorvatFX


p/s prefer short in this case :-)
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so far so good

EJ -bear
EU -bear
GU -bear
UJ -bull

trailing stop at 150 pips ...go to sleep
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GJ, hope you can give me good return this trade
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Long eu with kauness

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yerp for EU TF1H ...surely we can go for long ..but in the long run ...i saw doji and weak bull there

i will monitor for next couple of hours

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yerp for EU TF1H ...surely we can go for long ..but in the long run  ...i saw doji and weak bull there

i will monitor for next couple of hours
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 24 2010, 10:45 AM)
Long eu with kauness
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kau-ness = rich-ness smile.gif
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What mean kauness?
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Means, all in in the hokkien dialect
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Then what meaning is that? Sorry, i don't understand hokkien.
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Then what meaning is that? Sorry, i don't understand hokkien.
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Oic, what is your view to long EU?
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Oic, what is your view to long EU?
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First, too many doomsayers.

Second, there are clues in the weekly chart

Third, overcrowded trade (especially shorting the Greeks bonds)

Fourth, German pride lies with the EURO currency

Fifth, the euro declines bode well for euro states

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Adam penang kia? hehe..
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Adam penang kia? hehe..
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hi guys... i'm a newbie in forex and i'm looking forward to an opportunity to invest in forex... But i wana study how it works and market trends.
I have a question here, how long do you guys take to sell d currency? A day or two after buying? or more than that? and how much can u earn the best?
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 24 2010, 11:11 AM)
First, too many doomsayers.

Second, there are clues in the weekly chart

Third, overcrowded trade (especially shorting the Greeks bonds)

Fourth, German pride lies with the EURO currency

Fifth, the euro declines bode well for euro states
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Add on to adam's forecast, bullish divergence on daily chart. I haven't long, but preparing to long waiting for confirmation.
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Feb 23 2010, 11:04 PM)
Add on to adam's forecast, bullish divergence on daily chart. I haven't long, but preparing to long waiting for confirmation.
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great AdamG1981

i saw opportunist trader ...like u
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hi guys is there any full-time trader here?
i'm 21 and is interested in forex however i havent enter uni and have the 'paper' yet, does that mean for the rest of my life if i'll be trading i'll be facing the computer myself all the time?
opinions welcomed smile.gif
btw, in my shallow opinion gbpusd will at least move north to 1.57 in a week's time?
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QUOTE(sayNOtodota @ Feb 24 2010, 05:41 PM)
hi guys is there any full-time trader here?
i'm 21 and is interested in forex however i havent enter uni and have the 'paper' yet, does that mean for the rest of my life if i'll be trading i'll be facing the computer myself all the time?
opinions welcomed smile.gif
btw, in my shallow opinion gbpusd will at least move north to 1.57 in a week's time?
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Better don't, it will not give you peace of mind, unless you really want to be a money manager.
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Can't remember whether it was discussed in this thread about the BNM's statement about illegal forex trading. or was it another thread.
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Tp-ed EJ, and GJ.
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Guys i new to forex still using demo to practical , which is better ? ibfx or foxtrander pro ?

later on , i will use real $ to play it , but just 100USD ....can i know , which bank support forex ?

and can teach some skill? i just only know low buy > high sell @@
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 24 2010, 02:36 PM)
I tp-ed EU...now shorting EJ with the kauness
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meaning the GU will bounce back? a bull?
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Oh how great, my 2 USD last time lost 50 cent now profit only freaking 9 cents >.<
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Feb 24 2010, 08:35 AM)
GJ, hope you can give me good return this trade
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If u guys trading exotic pair there is also a good signal in CADCHF daily chart.. pinbar reversal towards direction of the trend. Nearest resistance is 1.0377

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so far so good for EJ and GU ...TP-ed with short ...+- 500 pips ..

as usual my observation

EJ=bear
GU=bear
EU=bear
GJ= bear

like what Holmes said , "...the game's afoot.."
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to all newbies, piece of experience to share. i started fores with usd100. within two days i make usd50. the second week i lost 40 usd because of my greed and emotion. thought i can recover but i lost further usd 52. i left only usd 65 for me to use to trade. theres so many mistake that i learned and the most important is patience. i am not good in fundamentals but i learned through experienced and charts. few mistakes that we newbies tend to make :-
1) we want profit very fast.
2) we dont have patience
3) we think we know better than others
4) we dont learn from mistakes
i got stuck in the trade every tuesday, because of wrong entry and i have to wait till it reverse that i can trade back. by the the time it happen it is already end of the week. i took me 2 weeks to trade to get back my usd 100 back. but i learned a lot.
tuesday is the day the market is aggresive, be patient and make a right entry so you wont get stuck due to your limited capital.
till now i am still stuck but no more like few days waiting, the most is few hours...
only to share my experience and happy trading..
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Prices moved lower recently after a red wave B)/II) top was established at 1.3625. The pair fell very close to the 1.3443 zone, where a possible break-out will confirm that a corrective black wave IV is finished (1.3691) and Short wave V in process.

Any near-term turning point on the long side of the pair, while the market trades above 1.3443 will suggest that a complex correction is not over yet. In this case we will wait for a possible triangle formation



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argghh!!!...when is eur/usd gonna gone bearish? i lost 29 usd already cry.gif
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wait for your signal to turn blue? haha, that is what I am waiting!
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lol.if according to H1 MACD, its about time. in 30 min to 1 hour time


Added on February 26, 2010, 9:04 pmit s gonna start soon. probably w8ing for usd news.


Added on February 26, 2010, 9:20 pmsumore stochastic rsi (14) on overbought alert already

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Yay, i gained 73 cent, here is my statement, and btw, its not in dollar, its in cents, micro account...

http://visioncored.mt4stats.com/
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient
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Yay, i gained 73 cent, here is my statement, and btw, its not in dollar, its in cents, micro account...

http://visioncored.mt4stats.com/
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Something changed from a downhill to an uphill slope. Is this a scalping EA?

And no SL/TP?
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Something changed from a downhill to an uphill slope. Is this a scalping EA?

And no SL/TP?
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Im a beginner so only 1 month experience.. tongue.gif
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lemme share another 1 of many "mind/emotion tools" that you can use in your trading plan to reduce greed affect; our mind can see and filter info.. but our subconcious mind will take everything as it is.. like a little kid so gullible..
What you can do to maintain your sane trading decision is by taking out profit and leave your original balance. Your subconcious mind will think your acct never grow and will not let you think that you're superman. Move the profit to another account or withdraw..
This is not suitable for someone who is already steady with their trading mind/decision or using EA.. but good for new trader who is struggling with growing his account.. once you reach a certain amt in the safe keep account you may use it to double your deposit.. that way your mind think its not profit made but money earn being risk to trade and will be more careful
*its an Art because you have to use Experience and Judgement to make decision.
*its Science because youre using Mathematical Process from past history to make decision.
its balancing both to reach your goal..

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QUOTE(Sham903n @ Feb 27 2010, 07:25 AM)
lemme share another 1 of many "mind/emotion tools" that you can use in your trading plan to reduce greed affect; our mind can see and filter info.. but our subconcious mind will take everything as it is.. like a little kid so gullible..
What you can do to maintain your sane trading decision is by taking out profit and leave your original balance. Your subconcious mind will think your acct never grow and will not let you think that you're superman. Move the profit to another account or withdraw..
This is not suitable for someone who is already steady with their trading mind/decision or using EA.. but good for new trader who is struggling with growing his account.. once you reach a certain amt in the safe keep account you may use it to double your deposit.. that way your mind think its not profit made but money earn being risk to trade and will be more careful
*its an Art because you have to use Experience and Judgement to make decision.
*its Science because youre using Mathematical Process from past history to make decision.
its balancing both to reach your goal..
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How bout for those who have yet to recover their losses
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How bout for those who have yet to recover their losses
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if you have no open position..
start fresh.. take a long holiday..
after that go thru what went wrong,
put it on paper and look at it like a picture painted by someone else hanging on the wall.. detached
its a lesson paid.. lesson learnt.. move on, start fresh with what you learn
*why they call law firm or klinik a practice.... because they never stop learning.. so do trader should never stop learning..*

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if you have no open position..
start fresh.. take a long holiday..
after that go thru what went wrong,
put it on paper and look at it like a picture painted by someone else hanging on the wall.. detached
its a lesson paid.. lesson learnt.. move on, start fresh with what you learn
*why they call law firm or klinik a practice.... because they never stop learning.. so do trader should never stop learning..*
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Hi,
Recently I heard my friend say there is a company located at AmBank jalan yap kwan seng that offer service to trade FOREX for clients, they claimed to be the servicing agent for Capital Group International Limited in Malaysia. And if u look at the Capital Group Limited ( CGL)'s website, to open account is at least USD 100K, so to do it in malaysia , it is also USD 100K. Each trading they make for u cost USD400. apparently they are making nice return with the strategy and system in trading.

Just wanto ask, anyone got experienced with this company ?

WIll it be another scam where the account is genuine but the trade they make for u is fake, then they claimed ur money is loss in forex but it is still around ?

I just wanto be sure so that my fren don't simply invest n lose her life savings.
thanks!


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QUOTE(tzeyin @ Feb 27 2010, 05:04 PM)
Hi,
Recently I heard my friend say there is a company located at AmBank jalan yap kwan seng that offer service to trade FOREX for clients, they claimed to be the servicing agent for Capital Group International Limited in Malaysia. And if u look at the Capital Group Limited ( CGL)'s website, to open account is at least USD 100K, so to do it in malaysia , it is also USD 100K. Each trading they make for u cost USD400. apparently they are making nice return with the strategy and system in trading.

Just wanto ask, anyone got experienced with this company ?

WIll it be another scam where the account is genuine but the trade they make for u is fake, then they claimed ur money is loss in forex but it is still around ?

I just wanto be sure so that my fren don't simply invest n lose her life savings.
thanks!
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QUOTE(tzeyin @ Feb 27 2010, 05:04 PM)
Hi,
Recently I heard my friend say there is a company located at AmBank jalan yap kwan seng that offer service to trade FOREX for clients, they claimed to be the servicing agent for Capital Group International Limited in Malaysia. And if u look at the Capital Group Limited ( CGL)'s website, to open account is at least USD 100K, so to do it in malaysia , it is also USD 100K. Each trading they make for u cost USD400. apparently they are making nice return with the strategy and system in trading.

Just wanto ask, anyone got experienced with this company ?

WIll it be another scam where the account is genuine but the trade they make for u is fake, then they claimed ur money is loss in forex but it is still around ?

I just wanto be sure so that my fren don't simply invest n lose her life savings.
thanks!
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stay away from managed forex account.. unless its Ed Seykota or Gorge Soros funds and unless its a Registered legal FX Fund Manage Company with BNM.

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As what i told you guys ....this time all pair running bear ...bull trade is not yet to come


i love this statement ..

"...Remember the golden rule - In a bear market, SELL ALL THE RALLIES!!!!..."

credit to dailygj
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it is illegal to advertise and collect money from the public for any kind of manage funds unless it is approved by BNM.. if BNM received complaint that a company or individual exist, they will seize everything. so becareful.
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QUOTE(kevler @ Feb 27 2010, 11:40 PM)

As what i told you guys ....this time all pair running bear  ...bull trade is not yet to come
i love this statement ..

"...Remember the golden rule - In a bear market, SELL ALL THE RALLIES!!!!..."

credit to dailygj
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hey guys

Want to start FOREX trading account with one of the online brokers

Started googling.. Alot of brokers out there.. Just want to know

Which are the ones you all are using and it there are any good ones you would recommend..

BTW, which one is better ECN or the market makers?
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QUOTE(kc26 @ Feb 28 2010, 07:42 PM)
hey guys

Want to start FOREX trading account with one of the online brokers

Started googling.. Alot of brokers out there.. Just want to know

Which are the ones you all are using and it there are any good ones you would recommend..

BTW, which one is better ECN or the market makers?
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For me, i think fxopen is nice, im currently trading with them.

For ecn, im not sure yet but fxopen got ECN account type.
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QUOTE(visioncored @ Feb 28 2010, 07:45 PM)
For me, i think fxopen is nice, im currently trading with them.

For ecn, im not sure yet but fxopen got ECN account type.
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Hey thanks man. i will look it up.

Any other ones so i can compare and decide..?
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Hey thanks man. i will look it up.

Any other ones so i can compare and decide..?
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Well, got TadawulFX, avafx and MB Trading for you to compare and decide.

For reviews and those, go to this site.
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public/forex_broker_reviews
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Well, got TadawulFX, avafx and MB Trading for you to compare and decide.

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http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public/forex_broker_reviews
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Thanks man


Added on February 28, 2010, 9:08 pmHey you forex experts

Really dont understand the difference btw ECN and market makers?
What are the difference?
Which one is better?

Thanks

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QUOTE(kc26 @ Feb 28 2010, 09:05 PM)
Thanks man


Added on February 28, 2010, 9:08 pmHey you forex experts

Really dont understand the difference btw ECN and market makers?
What are the difference?
Which one is better?

Thanks
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ECN better, but need high capital to open account I think. I am using IBFX.
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ECN at least how much capital to open the account?
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i also used to trade myself with MIG Bank.. but now i pass to the broker to do it...every month there are average of 2% come back to my account...very interesting..haha
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QUOTE(rstusa @ Feb 28 2010, 10:40 PM)
ECN at least how much capital to open the account?
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Dukascopy is 50k, I am not sure about others
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FXopen has ECN right.. Saw it on their website and new offer..

If so, the mini deposit to open acct is just USD1? Is this true?
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Dukascopy is from 5k onwards..

FxOpen 1k

MBtrading $400


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There is so many choices of online broker..
The more i search the more choices.

Headache.. Dont know which one to choose..

Anyone care to make my choice easier...
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There is so many choices of online broker..
The more i search the more choices.

Headache.. Dont know which one to choose..

Anyone care to make my choice easier...
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try look at http://www.gomarketsaus.com/


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Any sentiments for E/U?
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Yes.. choppy. sweat.gif

It's stuck in a no-trading zone with no clear direction in the near term. This is going to be a slow week before NFP this Friday (yeah.. right.. look back at Feb.. hahahaha). Only trading I'm looking forward to is AUD tomorrow for both Retail and Rates announcement. The perfect trade would be a big positive Retail Sales and bump AUD up 50 pips in the morning and then no rates increase to crash it back down 3 hours later. Potential for 100 pips easy if played correctly in just 3 hours.
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anyone using Mac OS to trade forex

Just realized that MetaTrader4 only available in window OS.

Anyone using Apple mac?
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GJ, down down down, wohoooo
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guys...what do u think of GBP/USD? shall it go down further? to what price? possible to go down till 1.48XX? or...a correction?

i attach my current trade. preparing for both bear n bull smile.gif


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GU still in downtrend, same goes to Gbp/jpy and gbp/chf

Just hold your short position, I am holding near to 3000pips for this 3 pairs currently.
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hold short?

3k pips? shocking.gif attachment or it doesn't happen tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 1 2010, 09:30 PM)
hold short?

3k pips? shocking.gif attachment or it doesn't happen tongue.gif
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It is up to you to believe or not, haha, I holding GU before chinese new year until now.
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QUOTE(kc26 @ Mar 1 2010, 04:33 PM)
anyone using Mac OS to trade forex

Just realized that MetaTrader4 only available in window OS.

Anyone using Apple mac?
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yerp. Me using MacOSX during trading with MT4

i'm using CrossOver
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It is up to you to believe or not, haha, I holding GU before chinese new year until now.
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wow.. how did you do that... can give some tips ka... still can short now or not? blink.gif
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 1 2010, 09:50 PM)
It is up to you to believe or not, haha, I holding GU before chinese new year until now.
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not that i dont believe, just hoping u can share a pic or 2 of ur trade list. how much u earn already huh?
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Yes.. choppy.  sweat.gif

It's stuck in a no-trading zone with no clear direction in the near term. This is going to be a slow week before NFP this Friday (yeah.. right.. look back at Feb.. hahahaha). Only trading I'm looking forward to is AUD tomorrow for both Retail and Rates announcement. The perfect trade would be a big positive Retail Sales and bump AUD up 50 pips in the morning and then no rates increase to crash it back down 3 hours later. Potential for 100 pips easy if played correctly in just 3 hours.
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Cool, guess Aud will take the shot.. nod.gif

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i don't know where to start but how to start Forex trading? please provide me a guideline...i.e opening of accounts? installation of software...etc....basically how to kick start a forex trade
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QUOTE(omniknight86 @ Mar 2 2010, 02:38 AM)
i don't know where to start but how to start Forex trading? please provide me a guideline...i.e opening of accounts? installation of software...etc....basically how to kick start a forex trade
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It is up to you to believe or not, haha, I holding GU before chinese new year until now.
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Ohh, i believe you. Coz i'm doing the same thing. nod.gif
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hi, im new here...just want to share some new system here....
just short on all yen pairs...
hope can get some profit............ laugh.gif
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Hey the interface looks familiar, is it basket trading system by trader101? My friend is using it too, he earn a lot of pips
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basket system..dangerous if u donno what u doing.
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Hey the interface looks familiar, is it basket trading system by trader101? My friend is using it too, he earn a lot of pips
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Definitely some form of basket trading system. Reminds me of a quote from Alain Quartermain saying to Tom Sawyer in movie League of Extraordinary Gentlemen,

"Very American. Fire enough bullets and hope to hit the target."


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basket system..dangerous if u donno what u doing.
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Definitely dangerous. It's one of those systems that is easy to start as you just fire all guns in the beginning, after that, the exit strategy gets complicated when you try to pick out the winners.

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Hey the interface looks familiar, is it basket trading system by trader101? My friend is using it too, he earn a lot of pips
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its not really a basket .......only 7 pairs in 1 time....
its call kuda system.....
1st stage 100pips per day...
2nd stage 500pips per day

300pips since morning open trade

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QUOTE(petehor @ Mar 2 2010, 05:27 PM)
its not really a basket .......only 7 pairs in 1 time....
its call kuda system.....
1st stage 100pips per day...
2nd stage 500pips per day

300pips since morning open trade
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Ah I see, but I believed this trading system derived from trader101's basket trading system. They have this indicator to check all the pairs sentiment, 100-500pips is like nuts for them. Highest record according to my friend is 8000 pips in one week during yen collapse. He is trading micro lot.


update: Just googled, yes this system derived from trader101's basket trading system.




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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 2 2010, 06:46 PM)
Ah I see, but I believed this trading system derived from trader101's basket trading system. They have this indicator to check all the pairs sentiment, 100-500pips is like nuts for them. Highest record according to my friend is 8000 pips in one week during yen collapse. He is trading micro lot.
update: Just googled, yes this system derived from trader101's basket trading system.
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how bout losses?
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QUOTE(victor131490 @ Mar 2 2010, 07:53 PM)
how bout losses?
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Dono, you ask peterhor, I am not interested. But I have a friend using this system.
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yerp. Me using MacOSX during trading with MT4

i'm using CrossOver
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Cool. Can you tell me how you do this.
Not familiar with CrossOver.

Hope you can guide me
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what forex broker you all used? can share it here please?
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Cool. Can you tell me how you do this.
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a good tutorial to use Crossover
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wanted to buy GBP. Which bank offer forex banking ?
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Buying for?

If going UK then go there ATM press cheaper (visa or maestro), if for investment no ppl buy like that eh la
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Wonder where I can mingle with other Malaysian trader.. I join cariG0ld forum..but there are more people selling affiliate and broker recommendation than real traders. Many of the member use EA and it looks like they have no idea of money management.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 3 2010, 12:36 PM)
Wonder where I can mingle with other Malaysian trader.. I join cariG0ld forum..but there are more people selling affiliate and broker recommendation than real traders.  Many of the member use EA and it looks like they have no idea of money management.. sweat.gif
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I admit I am one of the bullshitter in this forum, like me, people here will not share their trading strategy, or perhaps they don't have one.
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i can share my trades...but i am still noob at this.. i have journal in other forum.. but seems like very little response from experienced trader.. thinking of opening journal in babypips forum if they have that section.

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im a student of a trading group.. im not allowed to share it "trading stratergy".. nda.. I must say.. account grow steadily.. first time ive come across that group.. I thought its just another scam.. but after a family member urge me to go, even offered to pay the fee for me.. I took the plunged paying the fees my self to try to proof her wrong.. its seems that I was wrong about judging too early.. thank god I found that teacher
now which way the market choose to go.. I made profit.. literally..
its funny how a teacher who charges less than 1k for the knowledge can make a whole lot of difference..$$$
every one of us was given the same receipe... but each cook brings different results..

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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 3 2010, 12:46 PM)
I admit I am one of the bullshitter in this forum, like me, people here will not share their trading strategy, or perhaps they don't have one.
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It is not that people do not share but rather there is nothing to share. Would the mad scientist try to teach the village idiot the theory of the cosmos? Lets use an analogy closer to home or closer to the average age of the members in lowyat.. Would the top student in class share their knowledge with the bottom student and invite them to their top student's study group? I don't think so.

People think that by behaving like a noob or declaring that they are a noob in the forum and they will automatically get help. Wow.. how things have changed from school. I can't remember the last time somebody in class (which was a long time ago) stood up and declared that they are the dumbest kid and in need of help. That never happens in class but in the forum, I can say that there are plenty of freeloaders and beggers around.

To form a trading group, you first have to find people who have similar trading experience with you and then also find people who trades the same strategy as you do and that is not easy.

So don't blame us for not sharing since we don't know what to share as people don't ask the right questions. Most people just say "I'm a noob, help me".
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QUOTE(Sham903n @ Mar 3 2010, 02:48 PM)
im a student of a trading group.. im not allowed to share it "trading stratergy".. nda.. I must say.. account grow steadily.. first time ive come across that group.. I thought its just another scam.. but after a family member urge me to go, even offered to pay the fee for me.. I took the plunged paying the fees my self to try to proof her wrong.. its seems that I was wrong about judging too early.. thank god I found that teacher
now which way the market choose to go.. I made profit.. literally..
its funny how a teacher who charges less than 1k for the knowledge can make a whole lot of difference..$$$
every one of us was given the same receipe... but each cook brings different results..
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waah EUR/USD @ 1.3732 so high!
Hi Sham, what group is your? so good ? how to join??


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It is not that people do not share but rather there is nothing to share. Would the mad scientist try to teach the village idiot the theory of the cosmos? Lets use an analogy closer to home or closer to the average age of the members in lowyat.. Would the top student in class share their knowledge with the bottom student and invite them to their top student's study group? I don't think so.

People think that by behaving like a noob or declaring that they are a noob in the forum and they will automatically get help. Wow.. how things have changed from school. I can't remember the last time somebody in class (which was a long time ago) stood up and declared that they are the dumbest kid and in need of help. That never happens in class but in the forum, I can say that there are plenty of freeloaders and beggers around.

To form a trading group, you first have to find people who have similar trading experience with you and then also find people who trades the same strategy as you do and that is not easy.

So don't blame us for not sharing since we don't know what to share as people don't ask the right questions. Most people just say "I'm a noob, help me".
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Ha ha ha, like me i'm DIY type, trading mini account. I am still loosing money. If i share with you, you also loose $$. So better not share and keep it all to myself, hahahah. Losse my $ , so nvm. Losse other people $ , wait kena KILL!!

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as for me myself, i had prefer if we discuss n share. we should take it as an adult discussion..if u follow n lose money, its because u decide to take up the idea. furthermore, no one ask you to pick the idea initially. sumore, when its new, we will be eager/greedy to try, so, many will come up as losing money. slow n steady, then u will be in good hand.


Added on March 4, 2010, 7:25 amowh..n i'm sorry for not updating anything for past 2 weeks. hv been bz with final year study.

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The EUR/USD rallied to reach session highs as news of Greek austerity plan began to trickle out to the market. According to Dow Jones newswires, the Greek government will increase the VAT tax to 21% from 19%, freeze all pension payments and reduce civil service wages by 12% in an effort to control its growing budget deficit this year. Greek bonds responded positively to the news as GGB/BUND spreads narrowed to 293bps from 300bps prior to the news .

Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou will travel to Germany and France in the next several days to consult with Eurozone’s two most important members and obtain their seal of approval on the deal so that Greece could once again access bond markets on favorable terms.

At first glance, the Greek plan appears to have made serious progress in addressing the fiscal budget deficit problems that have wreaked havoc on its capital markets since the start of the year and is likely to assuage the ratings agencies who have threatened to down grade Greek government debt below investment grade.

The bulk of the cost savings falls squarely on the public sector in Greece and it is unclear as of yet just how much resistance the government will meet from the civil service unions. Nevertheless, the austerity measures are likely to increase the credibility of the Greek government and make it easier for Greek fiscal authorities to receive support from the Germans and the French.

Overall, tonight’s developments should prove positive for the EUR/USD which has been held down by growing market concerns over the burgeoning fiscal deficit problems in Southern Europe and fears that these economic pressures could exacerbate the risk of fragmentation in the region. The pair traded to 1.3650 in the wake of the announcement and could try to test the 1.3700 barrier as the day progresses if markets become convinced of the credibility of the plan.

Source: FX360.com
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The EUR/USD rallied to reach session highs as news of Greek austerity plan began to trickle out to the market. According to Dow Jones newswires, the Greek government will increase the VAT tax to 21% from 19%, freeze all pension payments and reduce civil service wages by 12% in an effort to control its growing budget deficit this year. Greek bonds responded positively to the news as GGB/BUND spreads narrowed to 293bps from 300bps prior to the news .

Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou  will travel to Germany and France in the next several days to consult with Eurozone’s two most important members and obtain their seal of approval on the deal so that Greece could once again access bond markets on favorable terms.

At first glance, the Greek plan appears to have made serious progress in addressing the fiscal budget deficit problems that have wreaked havoc on its capital markets since the start of the year and is likely to assuage the ratings agencies who have threatened to down grade Greek government debt below investment grade. 

The bulk of the cost savings falls squarely on the public sector in Greece and it is unclear as of yet just how much resistance the government will meet from the civil service unions. Nevertheless, the austerity measures are likely to increase the credibility of the Greek government and make it easier for Greek fiscal authorities to receive support from the Germans and the French.

Overall, tonight’s developments should prove positive for the EUR/USD which has been held down  by growing market concerns over the burgeoning fiscal deficit problems in Southern Europe and fears that these economic pressures could exacerbate the risk of fragmentation in the region. The pair traded to 1.3650 in the wake of the announcement and could try to test the 1.3700 barrier as the day progresses if markets become convinced of the credibility of the plan. 

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Seriously, I doubt Greek gov can solve the issue. What about Spain? They are in deep shit too, close 20% unemployment with huge debt.
So, I think we're gonna see weak EUR.
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definitely weak eur..not only spain n greek. italy n another eu member also in deep shit. at least, not until we can clearly see the result of greek move.
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just saw a promotion from ibfx.. what its mean by round-turn guys?
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yeah ..waiting for NFP storm ...

konklusi : better not trade during NFP ..or close your shop today .
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wonder which pair will the NFP affect.. sometimes its just a dud.. smile.gif

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wonder which pair will the NFP affect.. sometimes its just a dud.. smile.gif

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I think got 2 here in this forum.
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The required number of standard round-turn lots are calculated as follows: bonus amount / 10 = number of standard round-turn lots. For mini accounts to qualify they must trade the equivalent number of standard round-turn lots. (1 mini lot = 0.1 standard lots) According to the example stated in #2, the customer will need to trade 80 standard round-turn lots to satisfy the terms of this promotion.

just saw a promotion from ibfx.. what its mean by round-turn guys?
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Actually more for the scalpers and news traders. Day traders would not open any new positions on NFP day and if they still have open positions, the only thing they can do is pray. Scalpers and news traders would be watching and ever ready to capitalise on the situation.

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To day traders, how u think the market flows for these 2 weeks? Kinda not stable eh..

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I think got 2 here in this forum.
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wonder how much they make in order to survive(generally), cause TT-ing the money back would cost alot too smile.gif
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wonder how much they make in order to survive(generally), cause TT-ing the money back would cost alot too smile.gif
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TT money back maximum can cost up to USD70 if both broker & intermediary bank charge you.
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20 bucks also a lot? Kidding me meh
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i guess usd70 is nlthing to them laugh.gif
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i guess usd70 is nlthing to them laugh.gif
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That is what I actually mean. I withdraw to Maybank using TT, charge usd20 only. But now withdraw using debit card by ibfx
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any prediction on movement for this coming nfp
any moment now...
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wth...all good news but 1,n usd pairs up up n away?


Added on March 6, 2010, 12:29 ammy speculation is,this will be a correction b4 another heavy bear

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 6 2010, 12:27 AM)
wth...all good news but 1,n usd pairs up up n away?


Added on March 6, 2010, 12:29 ammy speculation is,this will be a correction b4 another heavy bear
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agreed. but not sure when will the correction ends..

anyways, US ther got another 4 banks closed down as per reported today.. not sure this will giv a huge impact or not..
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That is what I actually mean. I withdraw to Maybank using TT, charge usd20 only. But now withdraw using debit card by ibfx
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Have you use the debit card before? Since ibfx told us charges only $2.45 per transaction but payoneer there told me they'll charge a 3% per transaction, i'm not sure this statement correct or not as i haven't try using this debit card to do withdrawal.
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QUOTE(rstusa @ Mar 6 2010, 02:39 PM)
Have you use the debit card before? Since ibfx told us charges only $2.45 per transaction but payoneer there told me they'll charge a 3% per transaction, i'm not sure this statement correct or not as i haven't try using this debit card to do withdrawal.
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Nope I have not withdraw, just got it not long. Will let you know whether payoneer charge or not.
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bot is legal, but dont depend on it too much.
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well, if that kind of bot does exist, lemme know. so far, i hv yet found 1.
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E/U is still stable for now, waiting for trend..

Anticipating the movie 'Wall Street 2', will be aired late April.. Gecko is back.. =)
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QUOTE(Volatile369 @ Mar 8 2010, 06:13 PM)
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Anticipating the movie 'Wall Street 2', will be aired late April.. Gecko is back.. =)
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Waiting for up or down trend?
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Waiting for up or down trend?
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Not sure, for me as long as it break either up or down of the yellow lines in 1 day chart..

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Not sure, for me as long as it break either up or down of the yellow lines in 1 day chart..
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i know it is like going to boxing fight with mike tyson with 99% of losing but life is boring without fun.

i have RM5K as a capital can i trade in forex? can i trade RM100 only? what is the minimum? what demo platform recommended for newbie?

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i am in learning process, hope can join you guys in forex world later on.
i know it is like going to boxing fight with mike tyson with 99% of losing but life is boring without fun.

i have RM5K as a capital can i trade in forex? can i trade RM100 only? what is the minimum? what demo platform recommended for newbie?

liteFOREX is a broker? is it good for beginner to join?

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If you are going with broker that is located at cyprus I suggest you to use ikofx broker because their server is fast in placing order. With this broker you can trade as low as usd1. But no point to trade so low. At least start with usd100.

But it is better to use NFA regulated broker. smile.gif Hope this help.
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i am in learning process, hope can join you guys in forex world later on.
i know it is like going to boxing fight with mike tyson with 99% of losing but life is boring without fun.

i have RM5K as a capital can i trade in forex? can i trade RM100 only? what is the minimum? what demo platform recommended for newbie?

liteFOREX is a broker? is it good for beginner to join?

thanks
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u on demo?

if 5k, my trading life would be a lot more easier laugh.gif
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I am just 19 this year.I wanted to invest in forex..How can I get started? Is it enough with rm1000 as capital?
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wah... so young already knew about forex...but hope you are not influenced by all the hype about how fast forex can earn money... many info on the 1st page... "learning" can take years... good luck!
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I wish I know what is forex when I was 19 sad.gif
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He made tons of dollar from forex d... hahaha... You too right... You guys are FTT?
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Haha yea traders here are profitable.. not me la, still learning.. hope to be FTT as well =)

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with huge capital,one can farm moonies @ forex.i wish i had usd1k smile.gif
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I wish I had usd1k too... So that I can start my journey in forex trading... biggrin.gif Any scalper sifu here? What kind of filter does scalper normally use to scalp at 5M chart?

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May I know is Instaforex a legal broker? I have many friends who trade forex through this broker and made money. But they use local trader to transfer/withdraw funds instead directly to Instaforex. It sound a scam to me. Anyone has experience using Instaforex here?

Btw, I am a newbie in forex and interested to invest some money in it. May I which broker is reliable and good. I noted that many investors here use IBFX broker so may I know how do I add fund into my forex account (after sign up) and how to do it?
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Hi folks,

May I know is Instaforex a legal broker? I have many friends who trade forex through this broker and made money. But they use local trader to transfer/withdraw funds instead directly to Instaforex. It sound a scam to me. Anyone has experience using Instaforex here?

Btw, I am a newbie in forex and interested to invest some money in it. May I which broker is reliable and good. I noted that many investors here use IBFX broker so may I know how do I add fund into my forex account (after sign up) and how to do it?
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After sign up you can use your Credit Card or you may also use Telegraphic Transfer to top up your account. This is all basic which you can find out at your broker website. biggrin.gif
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Hi folks,

May I know is Instaforex a legal broker? I have many friends who trade forex through this broker and made money. But they use local trader to transfer/withdraw funds instead directly to Instaforex. It sound a scam to me. Anyone has experience using Instaforex here?

Btw, I am a newbie in forex and interested to invest some money in it. May I which broker is reliable and good. I noted that many investors here use IBFX broker so may I know how do I add fund into my forex account (after sign up) and how to do it?
Thanks.
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i'm using instaforex. new trader...about 1 month trading exp with real moonies. what can i say about instaforex is, my fren had no problem with them. he already trading for half a year. so far so good. deposit money is fast, but withdrawal could take 2-3 day if not instantly. mind u if u hv any floating, withdrawal is not possible.

depositing is easy, cuz we can use either maybank or cimb. i always use m2u.
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in orange, GBP/USD....new downtrend signal?
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Hi Invince_Z, what indicator you are using? looks cool. EUR/USD I sold @ 1.3621 (5:08) and sold again @ 1.3632 (5:57). I chicken out and took profit @ 1.3621 (8.16)

For all newbies (me including) Start with Demo account 1st. Learn how not to loose money 1st, Hahah Am still loosing money. Dosen't matter how mauch capital you have. The more you have, the more you loose. Start real small. Micro account.

Am still loosing rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 9 2010, 07:40 PM)
i'm using instaforex. new trader...about 1 month trading exp with real moonies. what can i say about instaforex is, my fren had no problem with them. he already trading for half a year. so far so good. deposit money is fast, but withdrawal could take 2-3 day if not instantly. mind u if u hv any floating, withdrawal is not possible.

depositing is easy, cuz we can use either maybank or cimb. i always use m2u.
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really?? wow .. i didnt know that..
can u pm me how??
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i don't know what exactly u r asking. it's good that you are in profit. however your margin level for me is dangerously low. I normally keep my margin level above 1000%. you might want to reconsider your lot size.

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QUOTE(z2forex @ Mar 9 2010, 09:05 PM)
@meejis

i don't know what exactly u r asking. it's good that you are in profit. however your margin level for me is dangerously low. I normally keep my margin level above 1000%. you might want to reconsider your lot size.
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May I know for how much u put in for the lot size?
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QUOTE(Raymondetc @ Mar 9 2010, 07:46 PM)
Hi Invince_Z, what indicator you are using? looks cool. EUR/USD  I sold @  1.3621 (5:08)  and sold again @  1.3632 (5:57). I chicken out and took profit @ 1.3621 (8.16)

For all newbies (me including) Start with Demo account 1st. Learn how not to loose money 1st, Hahah Am still loosing money. Dosen't matter how mauch capital you have. The more you have, the more you loose. Start real small. Micro account.

Am still loosing  rclxub.gif
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guys, can give comment on this? I'm newbie in forex.. is this good?
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its gud cuz u r profiting, but instead of starting with 3k funds, try one with usd 100. see, how much u can earn n how gud u in managing moonies. but if that is what u gain after starting small, why not tradng for real? smile.gif
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QUOTE(meejis @ Mar 9 2010, 08:07 PM)
May I know for how much u put in for the lot size?
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if you only maintain 1 position at a time you could use 0.1 lot. if you open multiple positions adjust accordingly. remember, greed is a REAL enemy. learn to make money consistently rather than win big then margin call.
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haizz...an increase without going below support line?


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QUOTE(z2forex @ Mar 9 2010, 08:13 PM)
if you only maintain 1 position at a time you could use 0.1 lot. if you open multiple positions adjust accordingly. remember, greed is a REAL enemy. learn to make money consistently rather than win big then margin call.
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hv to agree with u. manage open positions n money wisely. buy lowest possible..i hv limit myself up to 0.05 only. cant go beyond that.


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QUOTE(Raymondetc @ Mar 9 2010, 08:06 PM)
Waah, you so rich arh?? No need set Stop Losse !!!
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look carefully, his capital is 3.8k. even if trading usd1, he can afford 3800 pips changes. but i had rather open small, with lot of open positions.

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 9 2010, 09:15 PM)
haizz...an increase without going below support line?


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hv to agree with u. manage open positions n money wisely. buy lowest possible..i hv limit myself up to 0.05 only. cant go beyond that.
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this wor??

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when market is trading sideways like the past few weeks, its best to use bollinger bands.. trade the upper and lower part of the bands.. great result if u put in eurusd or usdchf.. just make sure ur trading the right side of the market.
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What if the market trending? What indi best to use for scalping?
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this wor??
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FerruFx_Multi_info THV is the bottom

piji_signal_bar is the top showing pips n spread
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QUOTE(z2forex @ Mar 9 2010, 09:13 PM)
if you only maintain 1 position at a time you could use 0.1 lot. if you open multiple positions adjust accordingly. remember, greed is a REAL enemy. learn to make money consistently rather than win big then margin call.
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thanks for the reply..

just testing with demo account after reading some forex info..

need to learn more..

actually start with 5k...

lost so much..

but learn so much also.. smile.gif


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QUOTE(mamet @ Mar 9 2010, 08:00 PM)
really?? wow .. i didnt know that..
can u pm me how??
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yup. it is like this, u transfer the money to instaforex malaysia account, then he will convert it for u into usd and transfer it into ur forex account. btw, the broker fixed rate is rm3.80 per usd1. after that claim 30% bonus, u get about more than u deposit. however, upon withdrawal, instaforex will deduct the bonus amount from ur account.


QUOTE(meejis @ Mar 9 2010, 08:44 PM)
thanks for the reply..

just testing with demo account after reading some forex info..

need to learn more..

actually start with 5k...

lost so much..

but learn so much also.. smile.gif
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dont worry. dont start with big capital, trade with 100 usd 1st in demo. learn to appreciate low trade size. if u master that, with huge capital, u can always profiting from forex.

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@meejis

i don't know what exactly u r asking. it's good that you are in profit. however your margin level for me is dangerously low. I normally keep my margin level above 1000%. you might want to reconsider your lot size.
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need to know on margin level above 1000% meaning wad?

the profit level above 1000% or wad??


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i'm using instaforex. new trader...about 1 month trading exp with real moonies. what can i say about instaforex is, my fren had no problem with them. he already trading for half a year. so far so good. deposit money is fast, but withdrawal could take 2-3 day if not instantly. mind u if u hv any floating, withdrawal is not possible.

depositing is easy, cuz we can use either maybank or cimb. i always use m2u.
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QUOTE(Edition @ Mar 9 2010, 08:31 PM)
What if the market trending? What indi best to use for scalping?
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When market is trending sideways with no clear direction..the scalpers will make more money.. I like to use bollinger bands as a visual guide.. Indicators are just tools of the trade, do not rely on them for entry signal.. Learn to read price action.

Anything lower than H1 timeframe is risky imho.. U can scalp on the H4.. use tight stop loss near the SNR around the upper and lower bollinger bands.

Can u spot my entry points? biggrin.gif Trade with the trend.. short position only.

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Once u see price moves harmonically like this, its a no brainer. You can also use it in trending market..but require some experience..

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 10 2010, 09:23 AM)
When market is trending sideways with no clear direction..the scalpers will make more money.. I like to use bollinger bands as a visual guide.. Indicators are just tools of the trade, do not rely on them for entry signal.. Learn to read price action.   

Anything lower than H1 timeframe is risky imho.. U can scalp on the H4.. use tight stop loss near the SNR around the upper and lower bollinger bands.

Can u spot my entry points?  biggrin.gif  Trade with the trend.. short position only. 

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Once u see price moves harmonically like this, its a no brainer. You can also use it in trending market..but require some experience..
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Scalping on a 4hr TF??
I thot for scalping u shd use 1M or 5M right. Scalping means go in and out within few minutes right?
In few minutes a 4hr TF doesn't really change much.

I does intraday and uses 15M, but still use 4hr to see trend

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Scalping on a 4hr TF??
I thot for scalping u shd use 1M or 5M right. Scalping means go in and out within few minutes right?
In few minutes a 4hr TF doesn't really change much.

I does intraday and uses 15M, but still use 4hr to see trend
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If you are beginner, the worst thing u can do is start trading the 5M and 1M.. Those lower timeframes are high volatility areas. Only the gamblers and great traders are able to cope with this risky timeframes. I am not saying u cannot make money on these timeframe..You can. But it is highly unlikely that u can make a living out of scalping M5 and M1.

I do not scalp. What i meant by scalping on H4 is taking "touch trades" of the Support and Resistance areas. Put a tight stop loss above and below the bbands..By using this method your risk to reward ratio would be very big. It may not work every time. But once u got in a good trade.. the winning trades will overcome the losing trades.

This is just the way I trade. It may not be as exciting as basket trading or trading with colorful indicators, but it makes sense to me in the long run.


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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 10 2010, 11:34 AM)
If you are beginner, the worst thing u can do is start trading the 5M and 1M.. Those lower timeframes are high volatility areas.  Only the gamblers and great traders are able to cope with this risky timeframes.  I am not saying u cannot make money on these timeframe..You can. But it is highly unlikely that u can make a living out of scalping M5 and M1. 

I do not scalp.  What i meant by scalping on H4 is taking "touch trades" of the Support and Resistance areas.  Put a tight stop loss above and below the bbands..By using this method your risk to reward ratio would be very big.  It may not work every time. But once u got in a good trade.. the winning trades will overcome the losing trades. 

This is just the way I trade.  It may not be as exciting as basket trading or trading with colorful indicators, but it makes sense to me in the long run.
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I'm a beginner adn do such mistake.. but thank you for the reminder..

I'm always comparing for the M30 and M15 as to see the trend..

but still can't spot the correct trend nor scalp any profit..

already use for 0.10 for the lot..

before this use for 1.0 and start to be more patient...

true enough forex need not a greedy man.. smile.gif
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If you are beginner, the worst thing u can do is start trading the 5M and 1M.. Those lower timeframes are high volatility areas.  Only the gamblers and great traders are able to cope with this risky timeframes.  I am not saying u cannot make money on these timeframe..You can. But it is highly unlikely that u can make a living out of scalping M5 and M1. 

I do not scalp.  What i meant by scalping on H4 is taking "touch trades" of the Support and Resistance areas.  Put a tight stop loss above and below the bbands..By using this method your risk to reward ratio would be very big.  It may not work every time. But once u got in a good trade.. the winning trades will overcome the losing trades. 

This is just the way I trade.  It may not be as exciting as basket trading or trading with colorful indicators, but it makes sense to me in the long run.
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There are plenty of traders out there making a living out of scalping. Everybody knows that the longer you leave the trade open, the more riskier your trade becomes as it is expose to more uncertainty. Trading on H4 as you mentioned is not scalping. Scalpers do not use buy-stop and sell-stops. We open at market price.

One part of scalping is when I buy on dips as the trend goes up. If a trend move 50 pips, I can make 70-80 pips out of that as I keep opening trades on every dip as the trend goes up and moving the other trades to BE. So even when the market moves 50 pips, I make more than 50 pips out of that move.

I realised that the more I trade, the shorter my time frame and the more scapling I do as I can see the price action better with experience. I don't have to open a position and wait for it to move anymore. I know when it is going to move and open accordingly. After a while it is a very simple guessing game of when peaks and valleys will form. I can do as much as 20 trades in 2-3 hours during scalping periods. Scalpers make money irrespective of whether it is trending or ranging. I remember the days of doing day trading and not opening any positions when it is ranging. Such a waste to watch the market go up and down but not opening any positions. Now I can sell at every peak and buy at every valley.

The best part of scalping is the education you get from it. Of course you have to spend more time at the markets when you scalp but consider that as tuition fees. The more time you spend at the market, the more you learn.

It's odd that some people are not willing to spend 2-3 hours per night on forex. Here is something for the people to ponder. It took most of you guys 6 years of primary school, 5-7 years of high school, 3-4 years of university before you can come out to work and make a living. Some people think that they can master forex by spending 30 mins every night for a few months. Oh.. they are so so wrong.

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There are plenty of traders out there making a living out of scalping. Everybody knows that the longer you leave the trade open, the more riskier your trade becomes as it is expose to more uncertainty. Trading on H4 as you mentioned is not scalping. Scalpers do not use buy-stop and sell-stops. We open at market price.

One part of scalping is when I buy on dips as the trend goes up. If a trend move 50 pips, I can make 70-80 pips out of that as I keep opening trades on every dip as the trend goes up and moving the other trades to BE. So even when the market moves 50 pips, I make more than 50 pips out of that move.

I realised that the more I trade, the shorter my time frame and the more scapling I do as I can see the price action better with experience. I don't have to open a position and wait for it to move anymore. I know when it is going to move and open accordingly. After a while it is a very simple guessing game of when peaks and valleys will form. I can do as much as 20 trades in 2-3 hours during scalping periods. Scalpers make money irrespective of whether it is trending or ranging. I remember the days of doing day trading and not opening any positions when it is ranging. Such a waste to watch the market go up and down but not opening any positions. Now I can sell at every peak and buy at every valley.

The best part of scalping is the education you get from it. Of course you have to spend more time at the markets when you scalp but consider that as tuition fees. The more time you spend at the market, the more you learn.

It's odd that some people are not willing to spend 2-3 hours per night on forex. Here is something for the people to ponder. It took most of you guys 6 years of primary school, 5-7 years of high school, 3-4 years of university before you can come out to work and make a living. Some people think that they can master forex by spending 30 mins every night for a few months. Oh.. they are so so wrong.
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I got your point. Its not that I condemn scalping perse. Its just that many beginners jump straight into the shorter timeframes with the promise of making huge profits in a short amount of time.

In order to make money on the lower timeframes u have to be very nimble with your trades. You wont have much time to analyze price movement and this will go against the inexperienced trader.. Its also a very stressful way to make money. The longer timeframes are more predictable.. There are alot of information in every pivot point. Trading is all about managing risks, and it is easier to manage risk on H4 and D1. You are trading with the majority.. big money will eat small fish for lunch.

The main difficulty in trying to successfully scalp Forex market is to exercise the discipline needed to quickly cut off losing trades. It is the reason why a lot of Forex traders will fail with a scalping Forex trading strategy. Unless you have lay out a detail mechanical system OR you have a good profitable EA that is profitable day in and day out in any market condition (highly unlikely) it is very unlikely for the newbie to make money using this method.

Another thing that I do not like about scalping is that some of the method used is more towards "gambling" and not trading. These methods includes news trading, London open trading, martingale etc etc.. which is very risky. Newbies are not interested to read price action.. We are more attracted to the colorful and complicated indicators.

Screen time is important to attune yourself to the markets movements.. but it can be counterproductive because we will have this illusion that more screen time equals more profits. I know this from experience, you will open a position just because you can. Any bad setup can be a good setup if u want it to be.

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 10 2010, 04:21 PM)
I got your point.  Its not that I condemn scalping perse.  Its just that many beginners jump straight into the shorter timeframes with the promise of making huge profits in a short amount of time. 

In order to make money on the lower timeframes u have to be very nimble with your trades.  You wont have much time to analyze price movement and this will go against the inexperienced trader.. Its also a very stressful way to make money.  The longer timeframes are more predictable.. There are alot of information in every pivot point.  Trading is all about managing risks, and it is easier to manage risk on H4 and D1. You are trading with the majority.. big money will eat small fish for lunch. 

The main difficulty in trying to successfully scalp Forex market is to exercise the discipline needed to quickly cut off losing trades. It is the reason why a lot of Forex traders will fail with a scalping Forex trading strategy.  Unless you have lay out a detail mechanical system OR you have a good profitable EA that is profitable day in and day out in any market condition (highly unlikely) it is very unlikely for the newbie to make money using this method. 

Another thing that I do not like about scalping is that some of the method used is more towards "gambling" and not trading.  These methods includes news trading, London open trading, martingale etc etc.. which is very risky.  Newbies are not interested to read price action.. We are more attracted to the colorful and complicated indicators.

Screen time is important to attune yourself to the markets movements.. but it can be counterproductive because we will have this illusion that more screen time equals more profits.  I know this from experience, you will open a position just because you can.  Any bad setup can be a good setup if u want it to be.
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Excuse me.. and how is long term trading not gambling too? After all you are buying and selling nothing? Irrespective of how long the trade stays open, a trade is a trade. There is no difference between a 1 min trade and a 1 week trade. Both trades are done against the broker since most of us are retail traders. There is no pairing or matching with any opposite trades. So scalping is not gambling and don't like the broker fool you.
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Excuse me.. and how is long term trading not gambling too? After all you are buying and selling nothing? Irrespective of how long the trade stays open, a trade is a trade. There is no difference between a 1 min trade and a 1 week trade. Both trades are done against the broker since most of us are retail traders. There is no pairing or matching with any opposite trades. So scalping is not gambling and don't like the broker fool you.
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Some methods of scalping are gambling imho. Those using EA robot are gambling too.. putting money on the table without knowledge and control of the circumstances IS gambling. If you are scalping using MA or PASR methods thats a different story. But only the best traders are able to control their emotion taking 20 trades everyday making quick decision off 5M and 1M timeframe without fear and greed. Trading psychology is not natural..u have to be train to be "emotionless" to get to that point.
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bulkbiz: lol..haha. new words today --> my 2 pips rclxms.gif


i think what myvi5949 saying is the less chance/time we got to analyze market n price trend, the higher the chance we got into forex gambling. hence shorter time frame vs longer time frame is the example.

i kinda agree with him. there are times we just place an order in M1 or M5 bcoz we see n think that the market is going that way, but instead, its going the other way around. aint it gambling?

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Some methods of scalping are gambling imho.  Those using EA robot are gambling too..  putting money on the table without knowledge and control of the circumstances IS gambling.  If you are scalping using MA or PASR methods thats a different story.  But only the best traders are able to control their emotion taking 20 trades everyday making quick decision off 5M and 1M timeframe without fear and greed.  Trading psychology is not natural..u have to be train to be "emotionless" to get to that point.
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This is where you got scalpers wrong. We do our analysis for long term the same way you do and we apply our scalping strategy along with it. We all know, even in a trending market, the price will go up and down as it climbs. Long term traders will only trade in one direction whereas scalpers will trade in both directions, even in a trend.

From your tone, you seem to think that scalpers open and close trades by flipping a coin. "If you are scalping using MA or PASR methods that's a different story..." Does that mean you think that most scalpers have no methods? We just open and close for fun and hope to win? Then you got the wrong impression of scalpers.. so so wrong.


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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 10 2010, 04:54 PM)
bulkbiz: lol..haha. new words today --> my 2 pips rclxms.gif
i think what myvi5949 saying is the less chance/time we got to analyze market n price trend, the higher the chance we got into forex gambling. hence shorter time frame vs longer time frame is the example.

i kinda agree with him. there are times we just place an order in M1 or M5 bcoz we see n think that the market is going that way, but instead, its going the other way around. aint it gambling?
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Then you have the wrong impression of scalpers, just like myvi5949. We don't open our orders because we think so. We open because our indicators say so, the same way any other trader would do. They open because their analysis says so. Scalpers do our analysis in minutes, not hours. Just like school where we have tops students who can remember in minutes and some slightly slower ones that need to go home to digest. The same applies here.

Scalpers follow the most important rule in forex. Trade what you see and not what you think.

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I used to be a scalper, very stressful leh
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If anyone is able to trade with consistent profits for 3 months off the M15 then my hats off to him. Its just that I've seen so many traders who tried and fail. Just go read any forex forum and u can see alot of examples.

When you're trading off lower time frames a lot of elements are going against you. The broker could spike you out. The trading cost will be higher. A politician can say something stupid an suddenly u hit your SL. Your risk per trade will quadruple but your potential earnings would also soar.

If a beginner could not make consistent profits on the easier and more predictable slower timeframes then it is unlikely that you be able to make consistent profits on lower timeframes. Scalping should be done with discretion and with a good mechanical system.

Everyone got different styles of trading. Some will use shotgun.. Some use pistol. Some will use a sniper rifle.
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i use machine gun...brrr..brrr..brrr...haha

anyway, its not easy to trade at low time frame, not that hard either. i had an idea of trading n profiting consistently at low time frame, i just need more capital. so...till then, we hv to w8 n see either it'll be a dream or a reality
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If anyone is able to trade with consistent profits for 3 months off the M15 then my hats off to him.  Its just that I've seen so many traders who tried and fail.  Just go read any forex forum and u can see alot of examples.   

When you're trading off lower time frames a lot of elements are going against you.  The broker could spike you out.  The trading cost will be higher.  A politician can say something stupid an suddenly u hit your SL.  Your risk per trade will quadruple but your potential earnings would also soar. 

If a beginner could not make consistent profits on the easier and more predictable slower timeframes then it is unlikely that you be able to make consistent profits on lower timeframes.  Scalping should be done with discretion and with a good mechanical system.
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I'm a newbie in scalping and I would like to try to scalp for 3 months in my demo account. Like what Sleepwalker said I scalp what my indicators show me and not what I think. Can I survive? Hehe... There is no SL and TP in my trade. Lets give it a try... For update you can take a look at Myfxbook. Scalping will start this month March 2010 until end of May 2010...biggrin.gif
I would be scalping using price action from 1M TF to 5M TF + other indicators... smile.gif

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I'm trading based on M15 but I only target 10-15p max, 2 or 3 trades per day. As long as you do not overtrade and don't target big pips, M15 is alright. And please pick good time to trade such as overlaps of London and US open.
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 10 2010, 06:56 PM)
If anyone is able to trade with consistent profits for 3 months off the M15 then my hats off to him.  Its just that I've seen so many traders who tried and fail.  Just go read any forex forum and u can see alot of examples.   

When you're trading off lower time frames a lot of elements are going against you.  The broker could spike you out.  The trading cost will be higher.  A politician can say something stupid an suddenly u hit your SL.  Your risk per trade will quadruple but your potential earnings would also soar. 

If a beginner could not make consistent profits on the easier and more predictable slower timeframes then it is unlikely that you be able to make consistent profits on lower timeframes.  Scalping should be done with discretion and with a good mechanical system.   

Everyone got different styles of trading.  Some will use shotgun.. Some use pistol. Some will use a sniper rifle.
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Interesting. I've survived for a year trading news and TF no longer than M5. Used to be a day trader to learn the skills and then moved on to scalping. I don't go looking at forums for failed traders. I go looking for successful traders. I guess I just don't take the negativity like you do. I guess that's also the difference between us. tongue.gif
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put more money into your trading account and scalp it, I will owe you a meal if you can win money.
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Why put more money? Its just a demo account. Monthly target actually is 20% but now its achieved. I will continue to scalp USD. Lets see by the end of the month if I can go through scalping since all of the long term traders are against scalping so much. If the demo account win do I still have my meal? Lol... icon_idea.gif

I just wonder that if my mentor can survived for 3 years in forex and made tons of USD by scalping then why can't I do the same things? I'm not going to brag about my mentor here. I'm just taking things positively! rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Mar 10 2010, 09:58 PM)
Interesting. I've survived for a year trading news and TF no longer than M5. Used to be a day trader to learn the skills and then moved on to scalping. I don't go looking at forums for failed traders. I go looking for successful traders. I guess I just don't take the negativity like you do. I guess that's also the difference between us.  tongue.gif
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i gotta agree wif sleep here.. im a scalper too.. heavy.. but of course i do hold my long terms trade as well..

i uses M1 and <M5 chart..
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QUOTE(Edition @ Mar 10 2010, 10:36 PM)
Why put more money? Its just a demo account. Monthly target actually is 20% but now its achieved. I will continue to scalp USD. Lets see by the end of the month if I can go through scalping since all of the long term traders are against scalping so much. If the demo account win do I still have my meal? Lol... icon_idea.gif

I just wonder that if my mentor can survived for 3 years in forex and made tons of USD by scalping then why can't I do the same things? I'm not going to brag about my mentor here. I'm just taking things positively! rclxm9.gif
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I used to be a scalper, very stressful leh
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So i deduce, scalpers ar enot for beginners.
Beginers can scalp on demo for learning or fun, but not realy money.

also scalping is indeed stressful, look at 2-3hrs screen waiting for the price to move,is stressul.

i look at forex every 15m (for 1min each, unless got opp to trade) for 2-3 hrs.
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Demo and real account is totally different dude. You don't believe me? You can try!
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Demo and real account is totally different dude. You don't believe me? You can try!
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So i deduce, scalpers ar enot for beginners.
Beginers can scalp on demo for learning or fun, but not realy money.

also scalping is indeed stressful, look at 2-3hrs screen waiting for the price to move,is stressul.

i look at forex every 15m (for 1min each, unless got opp to trade) for 2-3 hrs.
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Then you are not scalping right. There should be price movement every 1 min and there should at least an entry and exit every 10-15 mins as the micro waves move up and down. Even in a flat ranging market where the price didn't change much in longer time frames, there should be enough small waves for you to pull 5 pips out of every 10 pip move, assuming that you are trading on a pair with 2 or less pip spread.

If you look at the screen for more than 15mins and can't find an entry, then you don't know enough to scalp yet. Looking at the screen for 2-3 hours waiting for the price to move is definitely not scalping at all.
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Then you are not scalping right. There should be price movement every 1 min and there should at least an entry and exit every 10-15 mins as the micro waves move up and down. Even in a flat ranging market where the price didn't change much in longer time frames, there should be enough small waves for you to pull 5 pips out of every 10 pip move, assuming that you are trading on a pair with 2 or less pip spread.

If you look at the screen for more than 15mins and can't find an entry, then you don't know enough to scalp yet. Looking at the screen for 2-3 hours waiting for the price to move is definitely not scalping at all.
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Would you like to share a bit on what indicator is suitable for scalping in M1 and M5? Really appreciate it. You are a pro!
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anyone got an idea how good is fxprimus metatradeR? noob here
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Would you like to share a bit on what indicator is suitable for scalping in M1 and M5? Really appreciate it. You are a pro!
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I would be really appreciate too if Sleepwalker could share what kind of indicator that he is using to scalp M1 and M5. Sleep, normally how much is the TP for you to exit a scalp? 5, 10, or? I'm targeting 10pips and the extra pips is bonus for me. Should I reduce my TP to 5?
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Would you like to share a bit on what indicator is suitable for scalping in M1 and M5? Really appreciate it. You are a pro!
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I would be really appreciate too if Sleepwalker could share what kind of indicator that he is using to scalp M1 and M5. Sleep, normally how much is the TP for you to exit a scalp? 5, 10, or? I'm targeting 10pips and the extra pips is bonus for me. Should I reduce my TP to 5?
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As attached in the above reply, I'm using THV which has about 1000 pages in forexfactory forum and also added ichimoku cloud. You guys can read it up from there. tongue.gif

General scalping is about 10pips SL on EU. Move SL to BE+1 at 5 pips and let the rest ride. As with all scalping strategy, the simple rule is TP at the next reversal when ranging or open another trade on dips when trending.

As for using the THV system, please read up in forexfactory. I'd try to post another better image when news is not involved since 30 mins after the news will always screw up any indicator.


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anyone got an idea how good is fxprimus metatradeR? noob here
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All metatrader platforms are the same. How well it performs depends on the broker. Most brokers are using the metatrader platforms. The others are using their own software.

Update: It's been 33 mins after the 9:30pm news release and the market's is still going crazy. These are the times where you do not do scalping since there is no true direction where it wants to go and the swings are wild. Any indicators you have are hopeless in this situation since they are all based on historical data before and right after the news. I'd start scalping again when the DOW opens at 10:30pm. Let the market settle a little first.

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Don't worry dude... I will trade with my real acc once I'm confidence with this new method... Its not demo and real account that makes the difference... Its the trader itself... Think twice... tongue.gif
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Haha, good if you know that. But trust me, once you are very confident and go live, you will lost.
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With replies like this, there are times where I wonder whether this is a support forex topic or against forex topic. With friends like you, who needs enemies.

Edition, just ignore bulkbiz. Once you have completed your demo training, start with the smallest order your broker can support. You can't learn anything when you are sweating on the seat of your pants worrying about your order size (this is where your emotions will get the better of you). Play with an order size so small that you are actually bored with it (almost like demo) and that's when you get to learn without emotions getting in the way.

As with all forex trading, if you can't take the loses, don't trade. This is not a get-rich quick scheme. If you don't have the money to trade, don't trade as you'd be worrying more about the money than the trade itself. The money that you put into forex has to be money that you do not need aka risk-money. Some people use their credit card to fund their trades, and when they are not winning (or just breaking even), they still have to worry about monthly credit card repayments. Again, this will affect your trades.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Mar 12 2010, 09:34 AM)
With replies like this, there are times where I wonder whether this is a support forex topic or against forex topic. With friends like you, who needs enemies.

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well..i still think what bulkbiz say is some sort of 'supportive' statement. it's a very strong reminder actually  smile.gif
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Then that would be a good example of how 'not to support' people statement. A reminder of an impending doom is not supportive. Just like in a disaster movie where one dude yells.. "We are ALL going to DIE!!".. that is not exactly a supportive reminder.

A better example of "But trust me, once you are very confident and go live, you will lost.".. would be like your driving instructor telling you that once you are confident and go drive your own car, you will CRASH!!. It does not win any awards for being 'supportive', does it?
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Mar 12 2010, 09:34 AM)
With replies like this, there are times where I wonder whether this is a support forex topic or against forex topic. With friends like you, who needs enemies.

Edition, just ignore bulkbiz. Once you have completed your demo training, start with the smallest order your broker can support. You can't learn anything when you are sweating on the seat of your pants worrying about your order size (this is where your emotions will get the better of you). Play with an order size so small that you are actually bored with it (almost like demo) and that's when you get to learn without emotions getting in the way.

As with all forex trading, if you can't take the loses, don't trade. This is not a get-rich quick scheme. If you don't have the money to trade, don't trade as you'd be worrying more about the money than the trade itself. The money that you put into forex has to be money that you do not need aka risk-money. Some people use their credit card to fund their trades, and when they are not winning (or just breaking even), they still have to worry about monthly credit card repayments. Again, this will affect your trades.
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Thanks for the support Sleep... I understand the risk of trading forex... I will kept in mind what you just mentioned above... smile.gif Also thanks for the THV System thread at FF... I will read through...

I had 5 years experience with forex trading... I'm not totally a newbie... Yes I do agree I'm newbie in SCALPING... Because last time I thought scalping is not profitable where you only scalp 5-10pips per trade. But now then I realize that actually by scalping one can make a living too... I also believe scalper doesn't measure their profit in pips because what they value is the USD/pip when they are making profit(correct me if I'm wrong)... TP 10pips x 10trade = 100pips/day... Besides it also reduce our risk to stay in the volatile market... I follow a strict money management and TP 4 times/day but I admit that I always overtrading... biggrin.gif Until I'm too bored of trading... But had to admit that trading is bored... Only when you are bored in trading then you can make money...

BTW Sleep, do you mind to tell me which broker do you use for scalping? Because some broker only allow you to take your profit after 2 minutes... If you don't want to reveal your broker here you can PM me... I'm still looking for a nice broker to apply this scalping system...

BTW2, I'm here to learn something new and not arguing about swing trade or scalp trade... Peace... Lol... rclxms.gif

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Then that would be a good example of how 'not to support' people statement. A reminder of an impending doom is not supportive. Just like in a disaster movie where one dude yells.. "We are ALL going to DIE!!".. that is not exactly a supportive reminder.

A better example of "But trust me, once you are very confident and go live, you will lost.".. would be like your driving instructor telling you that once you are confident and go drive your own car, you will CRASH!!. It does not win any awards for being 'supportive', does it?
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QUOTE(Edition @ Mar 12 2010, 02:38 PM)
Thanks for the support Sleep... I understand the risk of trading forex... I will kept in mind what you just mentioned above... smile.gif Also thanks for the THV System thread at FF... I will read through...

I had 5 years experience with forex trading... I'm not totally a newbie... Yes I do agree I'm newbie in SCALPING... Because last time I thought scalping is not profitable where you only scalp 5-10pips per trade.  But now then I realize that actually by scalping one can make a living too... I also believe scalper doesn't measure their profit in pips because what they value is the USD/pip when they are making profit(correct me if I'm wrong)... TP 10pips x 10trade = 100pips/day... Besides it also reduce our risk to stay in the volatile market... I follow a strict money management and TP 4 times/day but I admit that I always overtrading... biggrin.gif Until I'm too bored of trading... But had to admit that trading is bored... Only when you are bored in trading then you can make money...

BTW Sleep, do you mind to tell me which broker do you use for scalping? Because some broker only allow you to take your profit after 2 minutes... If you don't want to reveal your broker here you can PM me... I'm still looking for a nice broker to apply this scalping system...

BTW2, I'm here to learn something new and not arguing about swing trade or scalp trade... Peace... Lol... rclxms.gif
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There is nothing to hide about which broker I'm using. I'm using FXDD. With a spread of 2 pips for EU, seldom do I get a chance to close in less than 2 mins. So far no issue with them. Stories of brokers that don't allow closing in less than 2 mins are usually those with zero spread or very tiny 0.5 spreads for pairs like EU. With those kind of spread (or even no spread), I can understand why people open and close in 30 seconds. I'd do it too.

My FXDD account was actually meant for news trading as FXDD has a rather 'fixed' spread during announcements. Imagine EU still staying at 2 pips 1 min before NFP announcements. Although they do not offer the best spread it is perfect for news. However, if I can find a zero pip spread broker, that would be perfect for scalping too.


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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 12 2010, 02:33 PM)
lolololol...now we r into languages.

back to forex, good luck to edition. may myvi5949's hats off to u. smile.gif
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Isn't the forum all about languages.. as in what you read is what you get? We cannot hear any sarcasm and we cannot read body languages. We cannot tell if the reply was meant to be a joke or being dead serious (esp when it wasn't accompanied with any emoticons). All we can do is just read what people post and accept it as the actual expression from them.

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There is nothing to hide about which broker I'm using. I'm using FXDD. With a spread of 2 pips for EU, seldom do I get a chance to close in less than 2 mins. So far no issue with them. Stories of brokers that don't allow closing in less than 2 mins are usually those with zero spread or very tiny 0.5 spreads for pairs like EU. With those kind of spread (or even no spread), I can understand why people open and close in 30 seconds. I'd do it too.

My FXDD account was actually meant for news trading as FXDD has a rather 'fixed' spread during announcements. Imagine EU still staying at 2 pips 1 min before NFP announcements. Although they do not offer the best spread it is perfect for news. However, if I can find a zero pip spread broker, that would be perfect for scalping too.


Well I see... Guess I had to to compare few broker first before I jump into their platform... Thanks for the above info Sleep...
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QUOTE(Edition @ Mar 12 2010, 02:38 PM)
Thanks for the support Sleep... I understand the risk of trading forex... I will kept in mind what you just mentioned above... smile.gif Also thanks for the THV System thread at FF... I will read through...

I had 5 years experience with forex trading... I'm not totally a newbie... Yes I do agree I'm newbie in SCALPING... Because last time I thought scalping is not profitable where you only scalp 5-10pips per trade.  But now then I realize that actually by scalping one can make a living too... I also believe scalper doesn't measure their profit in pips because what they value is the USD/pip when they are making profit(correct me if I'm wrong)... TP 10pips x 10trade = 100pips/day... Besides it also reduce our risk to stay in the volatile market... I follow a strict money management and TP 4 times/day but I admit that I always overtrading... biggrin.gif Until I'm too bored of trading... But had to admit that trading is bored... Only when you are bored in trading then you can make money...

BTW Sleep, do you mind to tell me which broker do you use for scalping? Because some broker only allow you to take your profit after 2 minutes... If you don't want to reveal your broker here you can PM me... I'm still looking for a nice broker to apply this scalping system...

BTW2, I'm here to learn something new and not arguing about swing trade or scalp trade... Peace... Lol... rclxms.gif
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From your statement and your questions, I doubt you have 5 years of trading experience, even if you do, you are still belong to the 95% by asking questions like "what technique you use? which broker are you using?". You still don't know what is forex, the reality of forex. I am not trying to show off, I am just telling you the truth, the ugly part of forex trading. If you and sleep still don't get it, I got nothing to say, and nothing to loose. Good luck in your trading ya! tsk tsk tsk


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Well I see... Guess I had to to compare few broker first before I jump into their platform... Thanks for the above info Sleep...
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Mar 12 2010, 02:27 PM)
A better example of "But trust me, once you are very confident and go live, you will lost.".. would be like your driving instructor telling you that once you are confident and go drive your own car, you will CRASH!!. It does not win any awards for being 'supportive', does it?
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Copy and pasted from somewhere which I think is very true:

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The 95% forex losers think that the broker is their friend. They think that the broker is so nice to give lots of freebies and incentives to trade....

The 5% forex winners know that all brokers are sharks. Are we saying sharks are bad or evil? No, sharks are not bad or evil. They are just sharks - when they eat you up, they are just doing their job! So, when a shark says to you, "Hey, the water is nice and warm. Jump in!(scalping is allowed and welcomed,see above)"...

There are a lot of ugly truth about forex brokers, you can search from net, which every retail fx traders have to accept, and learn how to avoid e.g. placing SL near to SR level, scalp during news which most traders's SL will be hit and so on, there are more.

Am I against forex trading? NO! I love it.

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Copy and pasted from somewhere which I think is very true:

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The 95% forex losers think that the broker is their friend. They think that the broker is so nice to give lots of freebies and incentives to trade....

The 5% forex winners know that all brokers are sharks. Are we saying sharks are bad or evil? No, sharks are not bad or evil. They are just sharks - when they eat you up, they are just doing their job! So, when a shark says to you, "Hey, the water is nice and warm. Jump in!(scalping is allowed and welcomed,see above)"...

There are a lot of ugly truth about forex brokers, you can search from net, which every retail fx traders have to accept, and learn how to avoid e.g. placing SL near to SR level, scalp during news which most traders's SL will be hit and so on, there are more.

Am I against forex trading? NO! I love it.
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That is why we hide our SL and TP from our broker so that they cannot spike us out. It's not an ugly truth. It is the truth. We are playing against the broker. They want our money and we want to make money from them. We don't win other people's money like the stock market. We have to win the broker's money. If you read the excerpt that I took from the CFTC, they did specifically say that we are betting against the broker. People should not be trading until they read all the terms and conditions. It is all stated clearly there but people just don't read.


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From your statement and your questions, I doubt you have 5 years of trading experience, even if you do, you are still belong to the 95% by asking questions like "what technique you use? which broker are you using?". You still don't know what is forex, the reality of forex. I am not trying to show off, I am just telling you the truth, the ugly part of forex trading. If you and sleep still don't get it, I got nothing to say, and nothing to loose. Good luck in your trading ya! tsk tsk tsk
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We get it. From your negative statements, you are the one belonging to the 95%. At least he is asking questions. At least he does not leech info from here. When was the last time you actually contributed anything? Those who think they are going to fail will fail. Then have you ever sat back and considered how the other 5% make their money? Definitely not by talking to people like you.

Forex trading is like a classroom of students. You have your clever students who consistently score high marks and you have the bottom rank students who fail at everything, even though they are learning the same thing and doing the same exams. It all depends on how much work you put in. Nobody is born stupid but it will take more than the average person to be successful in forex, in fact you have to be better than average to be successful in anything.. otherwise you'd just be ... umm.. average.

All of us here have gone to high school.. then to colleges and then some proceed to University. Does that mean 100% of us are guaranteed to be successful in life? There will be those who excel and there will be those who fail but I don't think I ever went to school thinking that I'm going to fail.

I guess you don't need any more education in forex.. maybe a self-help book on thinking positive.. might help with the negativity. biggrin.gif

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From your statement and your questions, I doubt you have 5 years of trading experience, even if you do, you are still belong to the 95% by asking questions like "what technique you use? which broker are you using?". You still don't know what is forex, the reality of forex. I am not trying to show off, I am just telling you the truth, the ugly part of forex trading. If you and sleep still don't get it, I got nothing to say, and nothing to loose. Good luck in your trading ya! tsk tsk tsk
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rclxms.gif Just because of the questions that I asked then I'm considered as the 95% who failed? I see...
No comment as I do not wish to argue... No point... hahaha... Asking others about their scalping technique also considered a failed trader... lol... Funny... Really no comment... lol... Talk more will only end up with nothing... There no point to be in this thread as ppl treat you like you are dumb and they know everything... How can I ask question then? Once you ask you are considered 95% that failed... I really got nothing to say.... No comment... What I can say is just, Thank you... biggrin.gif

Like what Sleep mentioned before, I did not come here just to say "hey i'm newbie, please teach me". No point right... Even when you speak to a mentor like that I guess they will not entertain you as you got no idea what you want to learn from them... I wanted to learn how to scalp cause I never scalp before... That's all... No comment... tongue.gif

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Don't forget about the change in Daylight savings for this year on the last Sunday this month for US and UK and first Sunday of April for Australia. Tokyo has no Daylight savings adjustment.
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owh that dst.still failed to understand how dst work blush.gif guess,its time to digest more info

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haha, you still don't get it obviously, it is ok for you to scold me as dumb, LOL. But again I strongly advice you to TEST your method with LIVE ACCOUNT. If not, good luck, tsk tsk tsk.

sleep, I am agree with you I don't contribute much here, HAHA, I admit, and from the way I look here, NON of us here is contributing since day 1, HAHAHAHA
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I'm outta here.
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owh that dst.still failed to understand how dst work blush.gif guess,its time to digest more info
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You will have to stay in a country with a big difference in sunrise and sunset hours to really appreciate DST. When I was in Melbourne, during winter, there is only about 8 hours of daylight, from 8am in the morning until about 4pm. However, when summer came, if we didn't implement DST, the sun would rise at 4am and set at 8pm.

Since nobody wakes up at 4am, so they implement Daylight savings to give us more daylight by moving the time forward 1 hour in November. So now the sun rises at 5am and sets at 9pm and we have more daylight, hence the name, daylight savings.

So come first Sunday of April, things are going in be in reverse as summer is ending in Australia and time will be moved 1 hour backwards.

The reverse is true for countries in the Northern Hemisphere.
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want to ask which forex platform can use
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-min margin requirement can be usd 1000
- size can be put 0.01 standrad lot

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That is why we hide our SL and TP from our broker so that they cannot spike us out. It's not an ugly truth. It is the truth. We are playing against the broker. They want our money and we want to make money from them. We don't win other people's money like the stock market. We have to win the broker's money. If you read the excerpt that I took from the CFTC, they did specifically say that we are betting against the broker. People should not be trading until they read all the terms and conditions. It is all stated clearly there but people just don't read.

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the money quote nod.gif forex trading is playing against the house, very different from stock market brows.gif


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sleep, I am agree with you I don't contribute much here, HAHA, I admit, and from the way I look here, NON of us here is contributing since day 1, HAHAHAHA
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101% agree for this forex thread & external links had alredi been given for further reading by forumers rolleyes.gif

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I'm agree as what bulkbiz said, better experience LIVE account in your trading before argue anything, you'll get the answer in LIVE account. Anyone think that they're earning consistent monthly income in forex trading, then just give out your guts to argue or advise something here, nobody will oppose your opinion one, because you already have stable income.
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haha, you still don't get it obviously, it is ok for you to scold me as dumb, LOL. But again I strongly advice you to TEST your method with LIVE ACCOUNT. If not, good luck, tsk tsk tsk.

sleep, I am agree with you I don't contribute much here, HAHA, I admit, and from the way I look here, NON of us here is contributing since day 1, HAHAHAHA
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Thank you Bulk... And I'm not scolding you DUMB... Please don't misunderstand... lol... I just said that I felt being treated like a dumb and know nothing in here... smile.gif

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hey anyone helping others to trade as a form of business? i'm not really good in forex only know the basics.. therefore looking for someone who can help me trade in the same time guide me how he/she trades.

pm me k? thanks
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I'm a newbie in scalping and I would like to try to scalp for 3 months in my demo account. Like what Sleepwalker said I scalp what my indicators show me and not what I think. Can I survive? Hehe... There is no SL and TP in my trade. Lets give it a try... For update you can take a look at Myfxbook. Scalping will start this month March 2010 until end of May 2010...biggrin.gif
I would be scalping using price action from 1M TF to 5M TF + other indicators... smile.gif
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scalping is addictive but tiring... smile.gif, when I scalp I dont use whats thought in our trading group. I use 1 ocilators, 2 ma, 1 custom indi, each one shows me entry, exit and its the current range... im currently learning MQL4 programming.. hopefully one day I can program an EA.. it will take out the emotional/mental element and change it to mechanical..
Im currently changing from scalping to position holder possibly more than a month.. I have a few open position... currently my longest trade started at 2nd March with total >20% floating profit from my total equity, not bad for 2 weeks. We will see if I can fish more moolaah.. next week.. still learning not to take profit early.. arghh so tempting to close all position...
oh ya.. im a gamer 15years ago and still a gamer now.. I play online game while im trading..since my pc can Multi-trade with 4core cpu easy now.. at least it kills some of the waiting/monitoring time and keep my emotion occupied with somthing else..lately I start to feel long term position holder is right for me.. getting old i guess..
ohh one more thing.. "trust me, once you go live, you will learn... alot"
all the best in your scalp trades..

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scalping is addictive but tiring... smile.gif, when I scalp I dont use whats thought in our trading group. I use 1 ocilators, 2 ma, 1 custom indi, each one shows me entry, exit and its the current range... im currently learning MQL4 programming.. hopefully one day I can program an EA.. it will take out the emotional/mental element and change it to mechanical..
Im currently changing from scalping to position holder possibly more than a month.. I have a few open position... currently my longest trade started at 2nd March with total >20% floating profit from my total equity, not bad for 2 weeks. We will see if I can fish more moolaah.. next week.. still learning not to take profit early.. arghh so tempting to close all position...
oh ya.. im a gamer 15years ago and still a gamer now.. I play online game while im trading..since my pc can Multi-trade with 4core cpu easy now.. at least it kills some of the waiting/monitoring time and keep my emotion occupied with somthing else..lately I start to feel long term position holder is right for me.. getting old i guess..
ohh one more thing.. "trust me, once you go live, you will learn... alot"
all the best in your scalp trades..
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I think scapling is very very stressfull, watching the screen full-time. When it go against you, that two thing below also shrunk. I though i was the only sour looser, that feel that the "house" is eating our $ as it always spike me out (on my SL). Hehe , looks like we have some common feelings.

I'm a newbie, still loosing $, hense nothing much to contribute yet, but being here in this thread, i guess is sufficient to 'add' moral support and keep this treat active.

Looking forward to Monday, to start loosing again rclxub.gif I'm one of the 95% now, but i'll definatly move up the ranks and shall join you guy (in the 5%) , soon, i hope. Hehehe thumbup.gif

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This report sent to my mailbox and I find it very funny and true. Please read my friend.

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bot is legal, but dont depend on it too much.
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y not if ur bot can earn million
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well, if that kind of bot does exist, lemme know. so far, i hv yet found 1.
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Hi guys,

I'm currently using a bot that recommend by my friend. According to him, its very reliable and i'm trying it out personally before telling you guys ok?
Will update you guys with proof in 3 months time wink.gif
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QUOTE(bL4cK_73dDy @ Mar 15 2010, 12:31 PM)
Hi guys,

I'm currently using a bot that recommend by my friend. According to him, its very reliable and i'm trying it out personally before telling you guys ok?
Will update you guys with proof in 3 months time wink.gif
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sure. np. even so..i had prefer trading on my own.
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What is bot?

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Bot?
some call it robot/bot/expert advisor/MQL4 programing but what ever it is.. its method of manual trading made automated/machanical..
One should understand the criteria of certain EA before using them.. dont just pick up one free on the net and use..
because some EA are not made for your Broker... so chk for compatibility... mercedes parts can use in proton?
google it up..

pro's and con
EA can give you signals to buy or sell, also can make the trading automated for you.. so not all EA the same.. some just calculate all open positions..

if you are new trader, using this you will never learn the essence of trading... usually people who is experience in trading use custom ea derived from their own trading strategies.. would you trust some stranger method risking your cash by using EA ? its like giving your money to some stranger to trade, scary...

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Added on March 15, 2010, 11:58 pm
QUOTE(Sham903n @ Mar 14 2010, 12:31 AM)
scalping is addictive but tiring... smile.gif, when I scalp I dont use whats thought in our trading group. I use 1 ocilators, 2 ma, 1 custom indi, each one shows me entry, exit and its the current range... im currently learning MQL4 programming.. hopefully one day I can program an EA.. it will take out the emotional/mental element and change it to mechanical..
Im currently changing from scalping to position holder possibly more than a month.. I have a few open position... currently my longest trade started at 2nd March with total >20% floating profit from my total equity, not bad for 2 weeks. We will see if I can fish more moolaah.. next week.. still learning not to take profit early.. arghh so tempting to close all position...
oh ya.. im a gamer 15years ago and still a gamer now.. I play online game while im trading..since my pc can Multi-trade with 4core cpu easy now.. at least it kills some of the waiting/monitoring time and keep my emotion occupied with somthing else..lately I start to feel long term position holder is right for me.. getting old i guess..
ohh one more thing.. "trust me, once you go live, you will learn... alot"
all the best in your scalp trades..
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My opinion would be to use the bollinger bands when scalping.

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hi guyz, sorry if i post in the wrong room.

Would like to ask , anyone know any good forex seminar out there in KL?

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hi guyz, sorry if i post in the wrong room.

Would like to ask , anyone know any good forex seminar out there in KL?

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no need go seminar de.. can learn from me.. hehhe icon_idea.gif
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pay me RM1000 (which i believe is way cheaper than those fx seminars that you plan to attend) and i will gladly teach you forex..

Cant believe ppl still believe in these seminars...

Edition, i suggest you read up more on forex and demo more before even thinking of trading. The questions you ask seem to be the sign of a newbie trying to enter currency trading and bear in mind, this is where ppl leave fx forever or continue trading if they are profitable. Bulkbiz may not be contributing in a very productive manner but all the same he has way more experience than u in currency trading as he is trading on a real account and also has been trading for a few years.
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im trading real acc.

BUT only after 3 years of constant reading. demo acc. and etc ect.

its hardwork and NOT a game.

some newbie out there thinks that forex trading is as easy is deposit. look at the chart and boom.. big buck.

there are many parameters involve. main issue is psychological one and money management. all of the system provided is 95% good already. u just need to implement it according to ur trading characteristic and always come up with a proper money management.

i use my own business plan. read it. follow it and digest it.


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if you want to go to the seminar... this is the criteria you should ask the speaker before you go.. is he a fulltime trader, if so is he making money?.. you dont want a fx loser to teach you make money dont ya... if he is willing to teach for your money then he is willing to let you see his live account since he first started until current.. track record.. how many ex student of his made money.. plus if he conduct seminar with live feed of price to proof his method and not just historical data where you already know whats the 4D number thats already out.. and can he give you money back policy if you dont make money with his method.. if the picture not fit.. dont bother..
holy grail? maybe.. but if you think properly.. these are simple question.. if you ready to take other ppls money you gotta be ready with proof..

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My friend asked me about MT4 platform with 1:400 or 500 leverage that offers micro lot trading. Preferably non-dealing desk.

Anyone would like to recommend? I am unsure about MT4 broker.
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My friend asked me about MT4 platform with 1:400 or 500 leverage that offers micro lot trading. Preferably non-dealing desk.

Anyone would like to recommend? I am unsure about MT4 broker.
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fxopen?


Added on March 17, 2010, 2:34 amFED is keeping their rates. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Sham903n @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM)
if you want to go to the seminar... this is the criteria you should ask the speaker before you go.. is he a fulltime trader, if so is he making money?.. you dont want a fx loser to teach you make money dont ya... if he is willing to teach for your money then he is willing to let you see his live account since he first started until current.. track record.. how many ex student of his made money.. plus if he conduct seminar with live feed of price to proof his method and not just historical data where you already know whats the 4D number thats already out.. and can he give you money back policy if you dont make money with his method..  if the picture not fit.. dont bother..
holy grail? maybe.. but if you think properly.. this are simple question.. if you ready to take other ppls money you gotta be ready with proof..
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I agree 101%. Forex guru/expert who know 888 charting techniques, know the theory and use all the listed indicator in MT4, appear in cnbc/bloomberg talking about supply demand and economic news doesn't guarantee he is a forex winner, and most of them didn't even trade at all or using demo account and historical data. In fact they are still the 95% losers.


Added on March 17, 2010, 8:39 amDear Valued Customer,

The off-exchange Retail Foreign Currency Market (FOREX) market community has seen an outpouring of support in opposition to the 10:1 leverage limitations—with over 7,000 public comments submitted to the CFTC.

In fact, several lawmakers have raised concerns about the negative impact this would have for the U.S. retail Forex market:

House Lawmakers Concerned On CFTC Retail Forex Leverage Proposal

Senator Orrin Hatch Letter to Chairman Gensler

As we’ve stated before, we stand behind the belief that you, our customers, should be given the freedom and right to choose the amount of leverage that is appropriate for your individual desired risk. This basic principle of 'choice' is in jeopardy by the proposed CFTC regulations.

To offer a bit of background, the CFTC was created in 1974 with a mandate that would prohibit the CFTC from creating any anti competitive rules and regulations in regards to its members. As we can see, 10:1 leverage would do just that.

This change would create an anti-competitive environment for Forex brokers in regards to competition with banks not regulated by the CFTC. In addition, 10:1 leverage would also allow the entire United States Forex community to be uncompetitive with global competitors.

Interbank FX supports 99.9% of the proposed CFTC rules, excluding the leverage requirements. In addition, we support the original Farm Bill in 2008 that allowed the CFTC more authority over FX dealers. Since 2008, Interbank FX has required all money managers and all solicitors to be registered with the NFA—instilling a safe and well regulated trading environment

Please make your voice heard—there is still time for you to help determine the outcome. Public comments will be accepted until March 22, 2010. You can submit your comments directly to the CFTC at: secretary@cftc.gov.

Please include 'Regulation of Retail Forex' in the subject line of your message and the following identification number in the body of the message: RIN 3038-AC61.

As always, we want the best for our traders. We hope you’ll join forces with us to prohibit the proposed leverage requirements.

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Guys, from what i see on the first page of this thread, instaforex and fxopen are recommended MT trade plateform. So can anyone telling me which platform is better in terms of cash in/cash out, low spread [micro account], reliable? Thank you.
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QUOTE(spawnster83 @ Mar 17 2010, 09:35 AM)
Guys, from what i see on the first page of this thread, instaforex and fxopen are recommended MT trade plateform. So can anyone telling me which platform is better in terms of cash in/cash out, low spread [micro account], reliable? Thank you.
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I heard a lot of rumours about FXopen and instaforex, they don't allow the traders to withdraw when he profit a lot. I personally use IBFX.
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Tat is what i found from GOOGLE~ Will check with IBFX. Thank you for the infor~ thumbup.gif Btw; how do this IBFX does Depo/Withdraw? Local Bank?

QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 17 2010, 09:46 AM)
I heard a lot of rumours about FXopen and instaforex, they don't allow the traders to withdraw when he profit a lot. I personally use IBFX.
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QUOTE(spawnster83 @ Mar 17 2010, 09:53 AM)
Tat is what i found from GOOGLE~ Will check with IBFX. Thank you for the infor~ thumbup.gif Btw; how do this IBFX does Depo/Withdraw? Local Bank?
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All local deposit by local agent is illegal my friend, I am using TT transfer to IBFX bank account directly, will charge you around usd20-usd25 if I am not mistaken, which means if you deposit 1k, maybe in your new account you will get 980usd only. I suggest you have a live chat with the IBFX agent, they are very friendly.
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Thank you my friend. Will do as suggested~ thumbup.gif

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All local deposit by local agent is illegal my friend, I am using TT transfer to IBFX bank account directly, will charge you around usd20-usd25 if I am not mistaken, which means if you deposit 1k, maybe in your new account you will get 980usd only. I suggest you have a live chat with the IBFX agent, they are very friendly.
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sure. np. even so..i had prefer trading on my own.
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Lol! No worry, i'm not trying to sell bot/EA here, i'm just telling only tongue.gif

By the way, money earn from forex tax-able?

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Im looking for a timer[the one tat will show how long more till the time of chart end] to use at MT4. Any recommendation?
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Google 'b-clock'. I think that's what you are looking for. I used it before smile.gif
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Thanks bro~ icon_rolleyes.gif

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Google 'b-clock'. I think that's what you are looking for. I used it before smile.gif
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Anyone used FXDD and Alpari UK?

Do u have problem on withdrawals?

A fren of mine told me he has problem with withdrawals from fxdd. almost a month!!

I never withdraw any, as i havent recovered my losses. Hopefully got profit by end of the year and can start withdrawing.
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FXDD... hmm.gif hm... Thanks for the information~ thumbup.gif

QUOTE(J(o)y @ Mar 17 2010, 11:26 AM)
Anyone used FXDD and Alpari UK?

Do u have problem on withdrawals?

A fren of mine told me he has problem with withdrawals from fxdd. almost a month!!

I never withdraw any, as i havent recovered my losses. Hopefully got profit by end of the year and can start withdrawing.
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QUOTE(J(o)y @ Mar 17 2010, 11:26 AM)
Anyone used FXDD and Alpari UK?

Do u have problem on withdrawals?

A fren of mine told me he has problem with withdrawals from fxdd. almost a month!!

I never withdraw any, as i havent recovered my losses. Hopefully got profit by end of the year and can start withdrawing.
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Did he show you his entire conversation with fxdd about his withdrawal problems or did you just believe what he said? Never had any issue with fxdd. Those with issues are usually those who initially funded with credit cards and paypal accounts and now have to withdraw through those accounts. No problems when you fund with a bank account and withdraw back to the bank account.

Same thing like those who claim that fxopen don't allow them to withdraw. Yeah.. most of those complains were back in 2007 when fxopen first started. Haven't heard about any complains from them in a long time. Heck, they even sponsored my car and 150 others for the Japanese GT in June last year and all we had to do was stick their sticker on our cars and park in the central display area.. psss.. don't tell my broker. Image courtesy of my friends blog who was also the photographer for the event.

So are they any good now? Well, they have a huge following in Malaysia and even dedicated a domain (www.fxmalay.com) and a very active forum. Go and ask around in that forum to get a better answer.

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QUOTE(J(o)y @ Mar 17 2010, 11:26 AM)
Anyone used FXDD and Alpari UK?

Do u have problem on withdrawals?

A fren of mine told me he has problem with withdrawals from fxdd. almost a month!!

I never withdraw any, as i havent recovered my losses. Hopefully got profit by end of the year and can start withdrawing.
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No problems here... ask your friend to chat with their customer service.
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Thanks for the feedback.

Nope, i didn't really do a due diligence on his claims. I also advise him to email the customer service. Din follow-up since then.

Yeah i saw a lot of fxopen advert on the street.

I was even surprised that they dare to advertised actively, even after BNm issued the circular on illegal trading.


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Guys, from what i see on the first page of this thread, instaforex and fxopen are recommended MT trade plateform. So can anyone telling me which platform is better in terms of cash in/cash out, low spread [micro account], reliable? Thank you.
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I can tell ya that our group uses insta.. no problem with withdrawal.. theres more than 100 of us.. so if theres any problem we should have known already..
problem is some people who never used them vouching other wise

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QUOTE(J(o)y @ Mar 17 2010, 12:47 PM)
Thanks for the feedback.

Nope, i didn't really do a due diligence on his claims. I also advise him to email the customer service. Din follow-up since then.

Yeah i saw a lot of fxopen advert on the street.

I was even surprised that they dare to advertised actively, even after BNm issued the circular on illegal trading.
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Fortunately BNM's circular does not cover retail forex. BNM does not prevent us from going into an agreement with any company to perform spread trading. Since we are not performing any currency exchange, it is not within BNM's jurisdiction. Once you start collecting money and investing on behalf of the client, then it becomes BNM's jurisdiction.

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What about oanda? anybody gt problems on withdrawal?
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I have a paypal account ,Can someone please introduce reliable forex website which can deposit and withdraw through paypal account. Thank you very much
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What about oanda? anybody gt problems on withdrawal?
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im using fxopen for 2 years....so far very good........fast execute
deposit can use topup card, withdrawal can make by local withdrawal rclxms.gif

i have my own live trading group every friday nite 9pm at brem mall, segambut...
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Hi peter;

Glad to hear that. Im running Demo account for that company as well now. So pro.. got trading group some more.. share share a bit here? rclxms.gif

Btw, what is the min deposit and withdrawal? Where to check out the spread they set? Noobs here. hmm.gif

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im using fxopen for 2 years....so far very good........fast execute
deposit can use topup card, withdrawal can make by local withdrawal rclxms.gif

i have my own live trading group every friday nite 9pm at brem mall, segambut...
every 1 is welcome.... thumbup.gif
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i'm studying trendline. namely head shoulder pattern @ easytradeforex.com. below is my own head shoulder pattern for gbp/usd

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both right/left just pass pivot
head is a bit far above pivot
retest neckline is below that of right shoulder

chart is based on M30.

am i correct? smile.gif


p/s: i know the longer timeline, the significance the trendline. but it not that visible on H1 that i choose M30 instead

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then it means that you are choosing what you want to see.. not what is shown to u.. a sign that you will be an emotional trader and probably requires u to practise more patience and wait for a pattern to emerge before entering
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kelvin_tan: u got it wrong there but thx for the kind reminder. i had to use M30 cuz no other available in H1 n above. i wish someone could tend to it whether the trendline was correctly identified (just ignore the M30 thingy) n drawn. if i'm missing something there.


for example:

i should hv drawn it from lowest bullish candlestick left shoulder to lowest bullish candlestick right shoulder

or

i should hv drawn it from lowest bearish candlestick left shoulder to lowest bullish candlestick right shoulder

or

i should just ignore the existing neckline retest point. others r correctly drawn

or

u add ...

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kelvin_tan: u got it wrong there but thx for the kind reminder. i had to use M30 cuz no other available in H1 n above. i wish someone could tend to it whether the trendline was correctly identified (just ignore the M30 thingy) n drawn. if i'm missing something there.
for example:

i should hv drawn it from lowest bullish candlestick left shoulder to lowest bullish candlestick right shoulder

or

i should hv drawn it from lowest bearish candlestick left shoulder to lowest bullish candlestick right shoulder

or

i should just ignore the existing neckline retest point. others r correctly drawn

or

u add ...
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Head and Shoulders pattern is a reversal pattern and is always at the end of the trend. Yours are totally incorrect in identifying the pattern position, not the drawing itself.

In your case, the preceding trend before the H&S suppose to be in an uptrend, then forming the H&S pattern, then when price break the neckline it is a confirmation that the trend is reverse.

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EmperorJoseon: so the id was wrong. thx2 notworthy.gif i thought H&S can form anywhere...as long as it appears to be something like H&S. u r saying, right b4 the left shoulder above, there should be a bullish trend rite? i'll keep that in mind.

how often H&S occur in a year or in 6-month time? i bet once or maybe 2-3 times only.

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Invince_Z: Im going to show u a scenario why you are choosing what you want to see.

1h dont have pattern.. ok la i look at 30m... aiya 30m also no pattern.. ok la i'll look at 15m.. 15m still no pattern.. hmm look at 5m .. and so on..

you are choosing what you want to see from what i gather.
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QUOTE(kelvin_tan @ Mar 19 2010, 12:33 PM)
Invince_Z: Im going to show u a scenario why you are choosing what you want to see.

1h dont have pattern.. ok la i look at 30m... aiya 30m also no pattern.. ok la i'll look at 15m.. 15m still no pattern.. hmm look at 5m .. and so on..

you are choosing what you want to see from what i gather.
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yes. i'm choosing so that i could ask u guys whether the H&S identification/drawing correct or wrong so that i could learn from those id/drawing. tell me who the crazy person use lower timeframe H&S fro trade? that picture just an example doh.gif sweat.gif

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head = red
shoulder = white
bull = yellow
retest neckline = green

take that. hopefully a H&S pattern taken from jun 2003 gbp/usd D1 graph


EmperorJoseon: what about below? cannot? laugh.gif i know it silly. just want to know.

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head = red
shoulder = white
bull = yellow

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 19 2010, 12:58 PM)
yes. i'm choosing so that i could ask u guys whether the H&S identification/drawing correct or wrong so that i could learn from those id/drawing. tell me who the crazy person use lower timeframe H&S fro trade? that picture just an example doh.gif sweat.gif

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head = red
shoulder = white
bull = yellow
retest neckline = green

take that. hopefully a H&S pattern taken from jun 2003 gbp/usd D1 graph
EmperorJoseon: what about below? cannot? laugh.gif i know it silly. just want to know.

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head = red
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That is not H&S pattern for me. It looks more like ranging market LOL


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Feedback in today:

“Hi Michael, I have been reading and following your website and blog posts for the past several months. I have to say that the information you provide is rare to come across in today’s internet world. The work you’ve done over the past several years has been amazing. I just wanted to introduce myself and ask you a question on which you may be able to shine some light on. Firstly, my name is [blank]. I am currently a student at the University of Toronto in Ontario, Canada. I am in my final year of, what they say, is a prestigious finance program in one of the top universities in the Country (although the quality of information i receive daily is, in my opinion, average at best). I will be graduating in a about 2 months and am one of the few lucky students, in this economy, to have been offered a full-time position post-graduation. In May, i will be starting a job as a junior trader in a prop-trading firm located in [blank]. The firm specializes in futures trading. Although i have been interested in trading and trade on a part-time basis for the past year or so, i am fairly new to the game. The firm is mainly a day-trading firm as many prop-trading firms are. I was wondering how your concept of “Trend-Following” applies to the day trading time frame (that is minutes, hours, etc)? Does this type of strategy only work for longer time frames or has it been successful with traders who use it to day trade? Thank you once again for everything you do. Hope to hear from you soon, [blank]“

It is tough. Many issues from transaction costs to a need for superior access and execution are working against you. Ed Seykota once gave some insights on short-term trend trading:

“Intraday trading is tough since the moves are not as big as for long-term trading and there is no comparable reduction in transaction cost. In general, short-term trading systems succumb to transaction costs and execution friction. You might simulate your system over historical data and notice how sensitive it is to assumptions about where you get your fills…The shorter the term, the smaller the move. So profit potential decreases with trading frequency. Meanwhile, transaction costs stay the same. To compensate for profit roll-off, short-term traders have to be very good guessers. To improve guessing skills, you can practice dealing cards from a standard deck, one at a time. When you become very good at it you might be able to make money with short term trading.”

Seykota was also asked:

“I am new to trend following and wish to ask you what your favorite chart is for determining a given market’s trend? Daily, weekly, yearly, hourly?”

Seykota responded:

“Hmmm…your list seems to lack scaling options for minute, second, and millisecond. If you want to go for the really high-frequency stuff, you might try trading visible light, in the range of one cycle per 10-15 seconds. Trading gamma rays, at around one cycle per 10-20 seconds, requires a lot of expensive instrumentation, whereas you can trade visible light ‘by eye.’ I don’t know of even one short-term trader, however, who claims to show a profit at these frequencies. In general, higher-frequency trading succumbs to declining profit potential against nondeclining transaction costs. You might consider trading a chart with a long enough time scale that transaction costs are a minor factor — something like a daily price chart, going back a year or two.”

I agree with Seykota’s wisdom, but he is not saying short-term is impossible. There are shorter-term systematic traders who have done quite well (Toby Crabel and Jim Simons, for example). They would agree with Seykota that their style is hard. The shorter you go, the more the need for great execution, fantastic data, and multiple systems. And in closing from Jessie Livermore:

“…the big money [is] not in the individual fluctuations but in the main movements — that is, not in reading the tape, but in sizing up the entire market and its trend.”

Big trends? Gosh, don’t we all just know those are coming! No prediction of what or when, but they are coming!

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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 19 2010, 01:26 PM)
That is not H&S pattern for me. It looks more like ranging market LOL
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which one? both? top? bottom?

FYI, bottom pic is extended version of previous H&S M30. this time it was screen capture @ D1. while for top pic, it was the best looking H&S i can find in such short time.

if u ask me...it is very hard to find 1 proper H&S in gbp/usd. i'm sure there is at least 1. if u hv a clue of the month or year. do tell me. dont give a screen capture, i would be glad to id it myself, just like playing hide-n-seek laugh.gif a clue may help. smile.gif

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eh, wanna ask as the 1st thread, there says forex is illegal, then once we earn $ from forex,... how to declare to our gov ?

I am new in forex and i earn some money from forex, the problem is i duno how to bring back the money ....
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 20 2010, 09:46 PM)
eh, wanna ask as the 1st thread, there says forex is illegal, then once we earn $ from forex,... how to declare to our gov ?

I am new in forex and i earn some money from forex, the problem is i duno how to bring back the money ....
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Forex is not really illegal actually. If you're new in forex, then try to trade on a demo account. Or if you're money hungry, try put some dollars into a micro account. If you mastered that, you can proceed to the standard. Oh and about how to bring back the money, commonly, wire transfer, hard to find any broker use credit card or paypal to withdrawl and deposit.

Well, about the legal case, its not illegal, the news is just tell us to beware of forex scam or what. All you need to do is go some safe forex broker. You can know the brokers here.

(Oh and, my statement is below if you want to see, its a micro account in CENTS, not dollars.)

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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 20 2010, 09:46 PM)
eh, wanna ask as the 1st thread, there says forex is illegal, then once we earn $ from forex,... how to declare to our gov ?

I am new in forex and i earn some money from forex, the problem is i duno how to bring back the money ....
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No need declare la I think, unless you are big player with 100k up and down market, then possible. Ten of thousand withdraw still ok.

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Hmm, i thought we had a gathering after CNY, no news? long time nvr c our fren Jurne in the forum eh.. @@

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my target is to earn 1mil within few months... that's possible. but how ? currently I using real account ,starting trade on 18th, til now i earn 200% of my total capital. that's crazy...
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 21 2010, 11:15 PM)
my target is to earn 1mil within few months... that's possible. but how ? currently I using real account ,starting trade on 18th, til now i earn 200% of my total capital. that's crazy...
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Err... I mean how means how to declare to gov...
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spot gold currently in ranging market. Will cut lost when the market open later, and wait for opportunity to re-enter.

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scare it got GAP when market open... so, have to wait..
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Someone pls advice our new fren thomas here..

Anyway, Thomas, ur new to forex right? Ok, jz my 2 cents, if im not mistaken, ur using a short term chart n high leverage to trade, if not u wont have that result in jz 2 days time.. To me i just fear that u might be gettng a 'king-kong syndrome', which means thinking tat u cant lose, from ur post i can c ur goal setting, n can c ur inexperience still in the forex world..

Imagine that u can get that amount in 2 days, means u have to be right all the time to get a milion, am i right? but hv u ever thought that what if u were wrong, u get margin called, u might say oh well, better luck nx time, u may hv luck, bt wat if not, u get another margin call.. by that time, if u keep repeating what u do, thinking u can be right again, u probably hv blown off ur acc..

My advice is, stop using ur current leverage, change to a smaller one, u might say im crazy, or like penang ppl say 'i siao liao'.. bt its still up to u.. ur money, ur trade, maybe Bulkbiz is right, ur a born trader..

Gud luck der..

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my target is to earn 1mil within few months... that's possible. but how ? currently I using real account ,starting trade on 18th, til now i earn 200% of my total capital. that's crazy...
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My immediate goal is not to blow my USD300 micro account for the next 6 months (4 more months to go) blush.gif

In Forex, i guess anything is possible. Wish you good luck. When you hit 1M, do remember to buy us tea, for all Forex 7 forumers icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 21 2010, 11:15 PM)
my target is to earn 1mil within few months... that's possible. but how ? currently I using real account ,starting trade on 18th, til now i earn 200% of my total capital. that's crazy...
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1 mill in a few months.. wow.. my target is 2 years..
if I were you ill take the 200% profit and leave the original money and try again.. atleast you got your money back plus profit 100%
good luck

Just saw your statement.. holycrap what ratio are you using? if 1 pip = 10usd, thats like for a person who is using the number1 rule of MM you are trading as if you got 200k.. rclxub.gif

*correction on the pips value*

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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 21 2010, 11:15 PM)
my target is to earn 1mil within few months... that's possible. but how ? currently I using real account ,starting trade on 18th, til now i earn 200% of my total capital. that's crazy...
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good luck, if u able few month get 1mil then one year get 100mil also sap sap...

another soros of m'sia whistling.gif

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its 1 pip = 10 usd so...10:1? or 1:10?

thomas: how long u hv been trading? including demo account.
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Since Thomas is using real money, then just let it be. Double up account in a few days also means possible to margin call your account in few days. He will learn from pain and joy. Sooner or later one will realized the important of money management, risk management, risk to reward ratio. No one will care about that with demo account.


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1 mill in a few months.. wow..  my target is 2 years..
if I were you ill take the 200% profit and leave the original money and try again.. atleast you got your money back plus profit 100%
good luck

Just saw your statement.. holycrap what ratio are you using? if 1 pip = 10usd,  thats like for a person who is using the number1 rule of MM you are trading as if you got 200k.. rclxub.gif

*correction on the pips value*
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2 years is also consider fast for me already. hehe

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Helo ! good morning.... giv my capital is 1k USD, leverage 1:200 ,

today forecast , GOLD price will drop 800-1200 pips !


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Helo ! good morning....  my starting capital is 1k USD, leverage 1:200 ,

today forecast , GOLD price will drop 800-1200 pips !
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time is between 1400 -1800 of market time.


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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 22 2010, 08:20 AM)
Since Thomas is using real money, then just let it be. Double up account in a few days also means possible to margin call your account in few days. He will learn from pain and joy. Sooner or later one will realized the important of money management, risk management, risk to reward ratio. No one will care about that with demo account.


Added on March 22, 2010, 8:22 am

2 years is also consider fast for me already. hehe
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Helo... i am using real account with real money ,1k USD.


Added on March 22, 2010, 8:59 am
QUOTE(Volatile369 @ Mar 22 2010, 02:44 AM)
Someone pls advice our new fren thomas here..

Anyway, Thomas, ur new to forex right? Ok, jz my 2 cents, if im not mistaken, ur using a short term chart n high leverage to trade, if not u wont have that result in jz 2 days time.. To me i just fear that u might be gettng a 'king-kong syndrome', which means thinking tat u cant lose, from ur post i can c ur goal setting, n can c ur inexperience still in the forex world..

Imagine that u can get that amount in 2 days, means u have to be right all the time to get a milion, am i right? but hv u ever thought that what if u were wrong, u get margin called, u might say oh well, better luck nx time, u may hv luck, bt wat if not, u get another margin call.. by that time, if u keep repeating what u do, thinking u can be right again, u probably hv blown off ur acc..

My advice is, stop using ur current leverage, change to a smaller one, u might say im crazy, or like penang ppl say 'i siao liao'.. bt its still up to u.. ur money, ur trade, maybe Bulkbiz is right, ur a born trader..

Gud luck der..
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hie, i am consider new in forex world, 6months only... by the way each deal i make, i did put stop loss. so i am not mean i not affort to lose as you mentioned...


each day consistant earn 25% of total balance.. u will get 1mil in 27th days.


Added on March 22, 2010, 9:07 am
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its 1 pip = 10 usd so...10:1? or 1:10?

thomas: how long u hv been trading? including demo account.
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 21 2010, 11:15 PM)
my target is to earn 1mil within few months... that's possible. but how ? currently I using real account ,starting trade on 18th, til now i earn 200% of my total capital. that's crazy...
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hahaha .. good luck thomas.. you have been entertaining smile.gif


Added on March 22, 2010, 10:39 amI personally have achieved 1000% ROI on my investment (However keep in mind i started with a small account.. Eg: USD100 > USD1000 is easy, but USD 100,000 to USD1,000,000 is hard even though both is 10x). If his target is USD10 to USD1000 I would say probably possible. But to hit 1 million with USD1000 within a short time period, dont go crying when u MC smile.gif

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 22 2010, 08:07 AM)
its 1 pip = 10 usd so...10:1? or 1:10?

thomas: how long u hv been trading? including demo account.
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Brother, erm, 1 pip = 10 USD, any problem ? how bout yours ? for so far i learn and trade is 1pip=10 USD...


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hahaha .. good luck thomas.. you have been entertaining smile.gif


Added on March 22, 2010, 10:39 amI personally have achieved 1000% ROI on my investment (However keep in mind i started with a small account.. Eg: USD100 > USD1000 is easy, but USD 100,000 to USD1,000,000 is hard even though both is 10x). If his target is USD10 to USD1000 I would say probably possible. But to hit 1 million with USD1000 within a short time period, dont go crying when u MC smile.gif
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Erm... 1mil in MYR.... means bout 330k USD..today target is reach 3051 profit,of capital 1000.

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i'm on 1 pips = 1 usd...minus 3 spreads for each open position

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 22 2010, 11:20 AM)
i'm on 1 pips = 1 usd...minus 3 spreads for each open position
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sure your's is less than 1 lot,right ?probably 0.3 or 0.1 ,same ,spread takes some pip,2-3..depends on currency.. oil 70pips, but oil is 1 pip=1USD


Added on March 22, 2010, 12:09 pmmy forecast : key short now for XAU/USD..gold... and target profit for 600pips -1000 pip. stop loss for 500pips.

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Since u have a stop/loss, then i wish u all the best.. Happy pips making..

Bt im jz curious, what if u were wrong, u lost 500 pips of ur s/l, means half of ur acc?

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From the way thomas predict, I suppose he is using the feng shui method to forecast. Don't laugh, yes feng shui, from david yap am I right? My friend went for that course as well and the result hehe. RM8k course. If I am not mistaken david yap got one millionare student trading dow jones index.

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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 22 2010, 12:48 PM)
From the way thomas predict, I suppose he is using the feng shui method to forecast. Don't laugh, yes feng shui, from david yap am I right? My friend went for that course as well and the result hehe. RM8k course. If I am not mistaken david yap got one millionare student trading dow jones index.

Good luck my friend, don't forget to treat us a meal when you reach your target.
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the result how? hehe only?
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 22 2010, 12:48 PM)
From the way thomas predict, I suppose he is using the feng shui method to forecast. Don't laugh, yes feng shui, from david yap am I right? My friend went for that course as well and the result hehe. RM8k course. If I am not mistaken david yap got one millionare student trading dow jones index.

Good luck my friend, don't forget to treat us a meal when you reach your target.
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Holycrap...tongue.gif feng shui.. in fx trading.. reminds me of the book about reading the stars for dow jones... later i guess we will have "Dukun FX" or "Fortune Reader for FX" saying wait your name not good for fx trading but fish trading better... ok that would be RM15k pls.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Mar 22 2010, 12:55 PM)
the result how? hehe only?
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Well thomas.. USD1k to USD 1 million is also possible.. heck even USD1k to USD100 million is possible. There are people out there whois capable of doing this.

However, you mentioned within a few months which I highly doubt you could.
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 22 2010, 12:48 PM)
From the way thomas predict, I suppose he is using the feng shui method to forecast. Don't laugh, yes feng shui, from david yap am I right? My friend went for that course as well and the result hehe. RM8k course. If I am not mistaken david yap got one millionare student trading dow jones index.

Good luck my friend, don't forget to treat us a meal when you reach your target.
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No , no fengshui.. dont simply guess lah... I got do homework and analysis ,k ? ..see my statement !...profit again !..wahahaha

anyone short trade ? as what i predict ? the market time 1400-1800.... ..see I COON anot !


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No , no fengshui..  dont simply guess lah... I got do homework and analysis ,k ? ..see my statement !...profit again !..wahahaha

anyone short trade  ? as what i predict ? the market time 1400-1800.... ..see I COON anot !
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bout 800-1000 pips drop.

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no one doubt your ability la bro, if you are confident, no one here can say a shit to you coz you really can make 1 million within months.

Do come back here often to update your status ok?

Me too I am waiting for opportunity to trade gold, but I dono which way the market will go, coz I never predict the market.
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QUOTE(Volatile369 @ Mar 22 2010, 12:20 PM)
Since u have a stop/loss, then i wish u all the best.. Happy pips making..

Bt im jz curious, what if u were wrong, u lost 500 pips of ur s/l, means half of ur acc?
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I monitoring, i think i ve set wrong... should key in 50 pips...


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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 22 2010, 03:34 PM)
no one doubt your ability la bro, if you are confident, no one here can say a shit to you coz you really can make 1 million within months.

Do come back here often to update your status ok?

Me too I am waiting for opportunity to trade gold, but I dono which way the market will go, coz I never predict the market.
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my update can be seen under my signature column... smile.gif cheers ..but...

I gonna withdraw my money once I reach 4k USD... as I scared,after yesterday reading your past article, i am using cap ayam brooker... fxprimus.com gonna change like yours ibfx.. registered, waiting approval.

i ve entered 2 trade, which is 2lot size... seriously ,it gonna drop... today... bout 800-1000 pips..



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thomas: u mean the xauusd?
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 22 2010, 03:48 PM)
thomas: u mean the xauusd?
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yup, XAU/USD... pls set bout 200%+- of free margin for this..

wait it drops.. jackpot ! haha
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too bad instatrader dunt hv it. for thomas, may u reach ur goal

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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 21 2010, 11:15 PM)
my target is to earn 1mil within few months... that's possible. but how ? currently I using real account ,starting trade on 18th, til now i earn 200% of my total capital. that's crazy...
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I believe anyone can make 1 million from 100... like I said before this fx is the last few places where you can do so.. but timeframe may vary.. I know personally a friend make 10k from 100 in a month but never in less than a month 1k to RM1mill.. but if you look closely if my friend can make RM350 to RM35,000 in a month.. but then again if he already have 35,000 for the second month he can make 3,500,000 on the 3rd month...lol... all the best.. if you reach there.. dont forget us down below for yam cha

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QUOTE(Sham903n @ Mar 22 2010, 04:14 PM)
I believe anyone can make 1 million from 100... like I said before this fx is the last few places where you can do so.. but timeframe may vary.. I know personally a friend make 10k from 100 in a month but never in less than a month 1k to RM1mill.. but if you look closely if my friend can make RM350 to RM35,000 in a month.. add 1 zero to that starting margin he would be able to reach almost RM1mill in 3 months...  all the best.. if you reach there.. dont forget us down below for yam cha
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within a month 1k to 1 mil with about 25% profit of balance perday..is kinda impossible, as saturday ,sunday off... so , what i said 27th days is 1 month plus...

the fact ...when rich even you ownself.. wont go make annouce tat u rich ,find ppl yumcha..later get kidnapped or killed by jealousy person baru tau...haha...
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Ok la, come back to reality la all my friends here. Don't dream anymore.

Thomas, no matter win or lost, do come back and report your status.
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sure,,,will giv some tips sometime... hehe
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 22 2010, 04:19 PM)
within a month 1k to 1 mil with about 25% profit of balance perday..is kinda impossible, as saturday ,sunday off... so , what i said 27th days is 1 month plus...

the fact ...when rich even you ownself.. wont go make annouce tat u rich ,find ppl yumcha..later get kidnapped or killed by jealousy person baru tau...haha...
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LOL... yeah... scary
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 22 2010, 04:19 PM)
within a month 1k to 1 mil with about 25% profit of balance perday..is kinda impossible, as saturday ,sunday off... so , what i said 27th days is 1 month plus...

the fact ...when rich even you ownself.. wont go make annouce tat u rich ,find ppl yumcha..later get kidnapped or killed by jealousy person baru tau...haha...
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i'm rather keep it silent than announce to all the people ..

when bought something exclusive like Audi or Tag-Heuer wristwatch , just say that you are in a business ...like dobi/laundry business or prepaid business ..and people will assume your business is getting better ....and never ever reveal you are forex trader ..unless with people in the same field with you .


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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 22 2010, 05:31 PM)
i'm rather keep it silent than announce to all the people ..

when bought something exclusive like Audi or Tag-Heuer wristwatch , just say that you are in a business ...like dobi/laundry business or prepaid business ..and people will assume your business is getting better ....and never ever reveal you are forex trader ..unless with people in the same field with you .
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that's the problem in Msia... when u rich in quick time..they will korek u y u got so much $... ,pity forexer (those earn alot ) hehe..


Added on March 22, 2010, 5:42 pmanyone short gold ? start profiting... last for 800-1000 pips ... !


Added on March 22, 2010, 6:05 pmwaah... today really profit day... really according my plan ... 25% of total balance... I am profiting now !!


Added on March 22, 2010, 7:33 pmGentlemen.... my predict cun..... gold dropping... wait 2 pm... will drop summore , anyone earning now ?... check the highest point... drag down.. 800-1000 pips...

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holy cow. look at ur floating shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 22 2010, 07:55 PM)
holy cow. look at ur floating shakehead.gif
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hehe.. did u pick my tip ?


Added on March 22, 2010, 9:33 pmsee my trade... just earn 2k USD..which means hit over 25% of balance . really possible for 1 mil MYR in 27th days.


Added on March 22, 2010, 9:48 pm USD
1 1250.00
2 1562.50
3 1953.13
4 2441.41
5 3051.76
6 3814.70
7 4768.37
8 5960.46
9 7450.58
10 9313.23
11 11641.53
12 14551.92
13 18189.89
14 22737.37
15 28421.71
16 35527.14
17 44408.92
18 55511.15
19 69388.94
20 86736.17
21 108420.22
22 135525.27
23 169406.59
24 211758.24
25 264697.80
26 330872.25
27 413590.31
28 516987.88
29 646234.85
30 807793.57
31 1009741.96
32 1262177.45

each day earn 25%,
please convert this amount to x 3.3 for MYR...

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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 22 2010, 08:00 PM)
hehe.. did u pick my tip ?


Added on March 22, 2010, 9:33 pmsee my trade... just earn 2k USD..which means hit over 25% of balance . really possible for 1 mil MYR in 27th days.


Added on March 22, 2010, 9:48 pm USD
1 1250.00
2 1562.50
3 1953.13
4 2441.41
5 3051.76
6 3814.70
7 4768.37
8 5960.46
9 7450.58
10 9313.23
11 11641.53
12 14551.92
13 18189.89
14 22737.37
15 28421.71
16 35527.14
17 44408.92
18 55511.15
19 69388.94
20 86736.17
21 108420.22
22 135525.27
23 169406.59
24 211758.24
25 264697.80
26 330872.25
27 413590.31
28 516987.88
29 646234.85
30 807793.57
31 1009741.96
32 1262177.45

each day earn 25%,
please convert this amount to x 3.3 for MYR...
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sien lar ,wei... lone ranger here...any members around?
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 22 2010, 09:52 PM)
sien lar ,wei... lone ranger here...any members around?
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Here normally ppl reply once a while, din check the forum 24x7 lar, hahaha
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Here normally ppl reply once a while, din check the forum 24x7 lar, hahaha
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I guess he is still trading so come and post while trading smile.gif
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sien lar ,wei... lone ranger here...any members around?
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Wa lau....good wor. Unfortunaely i just cam back and just check forum. Otherwise shall make a GOOD Trade!!! notworthy.gif
What special method you using? Price & Time somemore. Like that can hit your target at not time. rclxms.gif

A thumbup.gif for you.
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I guess he is still trading so come and post while trading smile.gif
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QUOTE(Raymondetc @ Mar 22 2010, 10:25 PM)
Wa lau....good wor. Unfortunaely i just cam back and just check forum. Otherwise shall make a GOOD Trade!!! notworthy.gif
What special method you using? Price & Time somemore. Like that can hit your target at not time.  rclxms.gif

thumbup.gif  for you.
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i put this tip ,i guess nobody take up.. or those who took ,diam diam after winning... hehe... strategy i use ? i duno how 2 teach..just know how to apply...

my forecast cun leh !... i ve been waiting since 12pm till just now... 2-4pm market time !!


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Ah yes, so what will happen to latest 2-lot trade?
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forgot to put stop loss.. heh.... die..

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Mar 22 2010, 11:17 PM)
taman sri rambai, I have been there before... hehe
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dont rob me ... i got no money.. havent make transfer yet..haha


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yup, XAU/USD... pls set bout 200%+- of free margin for this..

wait it drops.. jackpot ! haha
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12-3pm forecast, 8-10pm jackpot... congratz to who that follows...

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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 22 2010, 11:22 PM)
dont rob me ... i got no money.. havent make transfer yet..haha
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 22 2010, 11:28 PM)
You should hold your short position for xauusd, hahaha
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dropping..wait bout 1.3500...


Added on March 22, 2010, 11:33 pmactually very rare to see this kind of funny chart, 1 long trend,follow with 1 short trend...

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i saw all major currency in bearish mode

EU,EJ,GU,GJ,UJ and EG

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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 22 2010, 11:13 PM)
i put this tip ,i guess nobody take up.. or those who took ,diam diam after winning... hehe... strategy i use ? i duno how 2 teach..just know how to apply...

my forecast cun leh !... i ve been waiting since 12pm till just now... 2-4pm market time !!


Added on March 22, 2010, 11:13 pm
forgot to put stop loss.. heh.... die..
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Another 2-lot. Yeah, why not..
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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 23 2010, 12:09 AM)
Another 2-lot. Yeah, why not..
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reviewing... cham liao
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 23 2010, 12:12 AM)
reviewing... cham liao
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how can all major currencies be bearish at one moment? against MYR issit haha
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QUOTE(bulkbiz @ Mar 23 2010, 12:15 AM)
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haha..you notice bout this too ? me full time liao..
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i still consider new la.. although my skill can earn, but still got miscalculation...
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wow...ur floating also holy molly cow atm.
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haha, remind me when I first trading forex, die die wait for the price to come back, to prove that I am right.
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haha, remind me when I first trading forex, die die wait for the price to come back, to prove that I am right.
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haha, remind me when I first trading forex, die die wait for the price to come back, to prove that I am right.
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Hehe, we all laojiao(old people) know that feeling.. =) But lucky we willing to learn..  biggrin.gif
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it will...but the time is unknown. maybe the next day? next coming week? next month? next year? 5 years later? 10 years later? 20 years later? haha laugh.gif

btw, what drives the usd to weaken just few hours back? the healthcare reform?

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it's range time !.. short-range
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meaning?
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up n down up n down, undecided...but falling slowly... 6am+- should drop to my trading point...
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owh. u r talking about the eu pair rite?
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scalping thomas? not much volatility on the major pairs though.....
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yaya..lots forumers want to see me sink.. i feel it wont.. by 6am+-...wait n c..hehe


Added on March 23, 2010, 2:12 ampending loss drop...

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lolololol...we not la. n ur floating drop really fast.yeah!! drop moar!! rclxms.gif

not sleeping?

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lolololol...we not la. n ur floating drop really fast.yeah!! drop moar!! rclxms.gif

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ya ... sleepy... but...1500 USD woh... if lost ,pain man...
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lol...haha. agree


as of now, H&S anyone? H4 @ GBP/USD. u know the drill. red=head, yellow=shoulder, green=neckline

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i'm thinking of closing all GBP/USD profiting buy contract atm. should i?

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i duno much bout pound market.. no comment...sorry yea
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np. forgot to ask u..what market u familiar with?
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EUR/USD, oil, gold.
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Thomas, i can see that your equity is $3122, margin used is $2700, so your margin level only left 115%. You're in a very risky trading strategy, if EU going down back to 1.3500, then you're clapping hand, if EU going up to 1.3600 or more, then you're facing margin call.

Your account still left 115% margin level, if you're using leverage 100:1, if margin level hit 50% then will margin call.
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yup...monitoring till now...not dare to cut.. ouch !
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hey thomas.

whats ur system strategy?

mind to share?
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come come...today forecast...


key in LONG to OIL NOW !!!!...... 9.17 AM Msia time.... wait till market 1600-1800 hours... u will get 120-140 pips !!


Added on March 23, 2010, 9:11 amEuro Dollar is falling down falling down...


Added on March 23, 2010, 9:20 am100pips u can earn 1000 USD for oil ,per 1 lot size trade !! ...


Added on March 23, 2010, 9:24 am2nd tips... LONG gold... at 1102.70, u can get 700-1000 pips on market time 1400-1800.

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euro falling down probably concern on greece debt.. again.
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not sure..but confirm is falling down, my pending loss trade hav to wait few hours to clear...haiz... got no chance to buy OIL and GOLD.. really worth.. my today aim is 7k balance.
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i cant see any falling down trend yet to enter. its moving sideways. breaking trendline here and there.

what platform are u on and looking at what timeframe?

i wanna check if theres no major economic news 1st. no correction, no consolidation.
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euro dollar confirm falling down. put sma3 apply to low, sma3 apply to high...


Added on March 23, 2010, 9:43 amM15 , MT4 . eur/usd


Added on March 23, 2010, 9:44 amnews hav to wait 10pm tonite...

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not sure how ur set ur system. and saw its going down.

i enter long and locked 30 pips profit. going to monitor again now.
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it will raise to bout 1.3559 then BIG DROP...

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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 23 2010, 09:09 AM)
come come...today forecast...
key in LONG to OIL  NOW !!!!......  9.17 AM  Msia time.... wait till market 1600-1800 hours... u will get 120-140 pips !!


Added on March 23, 2010, 9:11 amEuro Dollar is falling down falling down...


Added on March 23, 2010, 9:20 am100pips u can earn 1000 USD for oil ,per 1 lot size trade  !! ...


Added on March 23, 2010, 9:24 am2nd tips... LONG gold... at 1102.70, u can get 700-1000 pips on market time 1400-1800.
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maybe i follow ur tips, and long gold too...
never traded gold before, just notice the gold trendlines looks very nice

o.o, suddenly notice a triangle for gold at daily TF

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almost ady ,now 1.3555, will fall about 35 pips then rebounce abit, fall summore


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maybe i follow ur tips, and long gold too...
never traded gold before, just notice the gold trendlines looks very nice
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Added on March 23, 2010, 10:09 amyesterday i earn 2k USD from GOLD... HUAT AH !!

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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 23 2010, 10:07 AM)
almost ady ,now 1.3555, will fall about 35 pips then rebounce abit, fall summore


Added on March 23, 2010, 10:08 am

I am new here, TRADE AT YOUR OWN RISK. haha... but my tips rarely goes wrong..


Added on March 23, 2010, 10:09 amyesterday i earn 2k USD from GOLD... HUAT AH !!
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nice to meet you anyway.. pls take care of this handsome newbie...
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nice to meet you anyway.. pls take care of this handsome newbie...
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nice to meet u too
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thomas, can u be a bit more detail on ur forecast?

i.e:

comodity/currency: .....
timeframe: from when to when (malaysia time or MT4 time)
pips: range, where to start/end

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i am age 22,plan to retire ,forexer for life.... and you ? fulltimer too ?
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QUOTE(rstusa @ Mar 23 2010, 08:28 AM)
Thomas, i can see that your equity is $3122, margin used is $2700, so your margin level only left 115%. You're in a very risky trading strategy, if EU going down back to 1.3500, then you're clapping hand, if EU going up to 1.3600 or more, then you're facing margin call.

Your account still left 115% margin level, if you're using leverage 100:1, if margin level hit 50% then will margin call.
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He is definitely on either 1:500 or a 1:400 leverage. Look at his first 2 trades. He opened 0.6 + 0.4 = 1 standard lot of EU. That would required a margin of USD1377.00 if he was on a 1:200 leverage. He only had USD999 when he opened the account. So his leverage is definitely higher than 1:200. That is why I would say either 1:400 or 1:500 leverage to open such large orders with so little margin required.
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 23 2010, 10:16 AM)
thomas, can u be a bit more detail on ur forecast?

i.e:

comodity/currency: .....
timeframe: from when to when (malaysia time or MT4 time)
pips: range, where to start/end
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comodity/currency: OIL
timeframe: from when to when (malaysia time or MT4 time)
now the right time. 1020am Msia TIME, take profit at MT4 time 1400-1600.

pips: Grab 120-140 pips (100 pips=1k USD per lot)

lot size ,up to u.


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He is definitely on either 1:500 or a 1:400 leverage. Look at his first 2 trades. He opened 0.6 + 0.4 = 1 standard lot of EU. That would required a margin of USD1377.00 if he was on a 1:200 leverage. He only had USD999 when he opened the account. So his leverage is definitely higher than 1:200. That is why I would say either 1:400 or 1:500 leverage to open such large orders with so little margin required.
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1:200. i swear.


Added on March 23, 2010, 10:24 amcomodity/currency: GOLD
timeframe: from when to when 1023am Msia time, key it LONG ,1400-1600 take profit.
pips: 700-1000 pips

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what about eur/usd?
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Mar 23 2010, 10:20 AM)
He is definitely on either 1:500 or a 1:400 leverage. Look at his first 2 trades. He opened 0.6 + 0.4 = 1 standard lot of EU. That would required a margin of USD1377.00 if he was on a 1:200 leverage. He only had USD999 when he opened the account. So his leverage is definitely higher than 1:200. That is why I would say either 1:400 or 1:500 leverage to open such large orders with so little margin required.
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what about eur/usd?
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ok. to what extend? now till? how many pips?
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 23 2010, 10:21 AM)
comodity/currency: OIL
timeframe: from when to when (malaysia time or MT4 time)
now the right time. 1020am Msia TIME, take profit at MT4 time 1400-1600.

pips: Grab 120-140 pips (100 pips=1k USD per lot)

lot size ,up to u.


Added on March 23, 2010, 10:22 am

1:200. i swear.


Added on March 23, 2010, 10:24 amcomodity/currency: GOLD
timeframe: from when to when 1023am Msia time, key it LONG ,1400-1600 take profit.
pips: 700-1000 pips
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SO that is how the FXprimus USD credit bonus works eh? It adds USD500 to your account so that you can have more margin to purchase but does not reflect on your equity. You can use the USD500 to open orders but you cannot withdraw the USD500 from it. Very tricky.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Mar 23 2010, 10:38 AM)
SO that is how the FXprimus USD credit bonus works eh? It adds USD500 to your account so that you can have more margin to purchase but does not reflect on your equity. You can use the USD500 to open orders but you cannot withdraw the USD500 from it. Very tricky.
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ya... same as others la.. bonus..., primus acc, when the total funding amount lose 25% ,they take back the Bonus

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ya... same as others la.. bonus...
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Not exactly. Most of the other brokers do not extend line of credit. You actually get monetary bonus if you complete a certain amount of orders, monetary bonus that you can actually withdraw. However, the percentage of the bonus is much smaller.
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Say if I want to withdraw funds back into my bank in Malaysia.

What's the maximum amount beyond which the bank has to report to the government? 100k?
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Hey guys,
Say if I want to withdraw funds back into my bank in Malaysia.

What's the maximum amount beyond which the bank has to report to the government? 100k?
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You mean how much before you need to declare? I think should be 50k
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You mean how much before you need to declare? I think should be 50k
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I've heard that all the bank transactions above certain amount have to be reported to the Government by the banks

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following this thread.. lot of experience forex traders.. hope can learn somthing from u guys..

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hokkien lang ah haha. Well once in a while sure got this kind of thing happen even laojiao also at times stubborn la
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I've heard that all the bank transactions above certain amount have to be reported to the Government by the banks
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Declare as in say what the money is for
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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 23 2010, 02:11 AM)
yaya..lots forumers want to see me sink.. i feel it wont.. by 6am+-...wait n c..hehe


Added on March 23, 2010, 2:12 ampending loss drop...
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are you using martingale Thomas? scary..
but the odds in crap table vs fx trading is much different... seems like fx have better % of winning vs gambling crap..

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are you using martingale Thomas? scary..
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nope.. i didnt, i use SR plus and EU Plus formula to make calculation...

i forgot to set stop loss for yesterday trade,so, now die hard... haha

for the 1st time i see this kind of weird...ya.. consider weird for me , i mean EU.



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What Makes Prices Move?

Today I will go over what I think drives price movement in the markets, why I hold these beliefs, and why I think it is important to understand the forces in price movement. Keep in mind the following theories are my opinions, not absolute fact. I believe in technical analysis much more than fundamental analysis, which will be reflected in this feature. There are people out there that will probably disagree with some of my statements below, which is fine. However, it is my hope that this information will provide value for our readers and at least make people think.

People often ask "did fundamentals trump technicals on that trade?" or something along those lines. No offense to anyone out there, but that is a ridiculous question. There are not two boxers names "fundamental analysis" and "technical analysis" slugging it out for trading supremacy. Sometimes a major news announcement will shoot the price past a strong technical level, but that's why I don't enter trades right before a major news announcement. How do we measure "fundamentals" though? Does that mean an announcement today, the overall economic scope of a country over the past century, or something in between?

The reality is that the only force that moves prices in any market is the buying and selling of the financial instrument. For our purposes, we will use currency trading as an example, but this is true in all liquid, openly traded markets. Currency prices don't fluctuate on their own. They only move up when traders are willing to buy at a price higher than the current price, and the only move down when traders are willing to sell at a lower price. That sounds incredibly simple, but this is a very important fact to establish.

The reason it is important to determine that traders move the market, is that this means no one can predict exactly where the market will go. Only probabilities at certain ranges can be determined, and usually the probabilities aren't overwhelming (they don't need to be). So the next time you hear someone say "XYZ is going to hit (black price) today!", take those predictions with a massive grain of salt. They are saying that they know exactly what every trader is thinking, how much each of those traders will buy or sell, when they will buy or sell it, how the buying or selling of others will affect their own buying or selling, and how every trader will react to news announcements (both scheduled and unscheduled). Let's presume that some incredible genius figured out a way to create artificial intelligence that could solve each of those issues (and more I am leaving out). That model would assume that people are rational (like fundamental analysis does). Unfortunately, there is no limit to how irrational traders can act, individually and as a group. Therefore, it becomes obvious that no one person can ever know exactly where a price will go.

This seemingly endless list of variables, along with the irrational behavior of traders, is why I believe in technical analysis. Technical analysis uses various ratios and drawings that, in my opinion, are designed to measure the behavior of traders. We aren't trying to explain why they are doing what they do. As we discussed above, it is impossible to know what is going through every trader's brain. Instead, we are trying to determine certain levels where traders are more likely to act one way then another. With technical analysis, you can do basically the same thing every time. If you watch the patterns we post, they are basically the same patterns on different pairs every day. We try to eliminate as many random variables as we can. It is important to have a robust strategy, as we do, that works over all markets and all time frames. If a strategy only works on one financial instrument with one time frame, chances are that strategy won't work for long. After doing this, we can measure if we have an "edge" over a very large sample of trades. This isn't a guarantee that what once made money will always make money, but it is a lot better than nothing.

I am sure you can guess where this is going regarding fundamentals. Now there are different type of fundamental trading. If you trade based off of an announcement that came out today, that is very different from a trader who looks at long term macroeconomics. If you trade strictly off of new announcements, that is a steep uphill battle. First of all, there are a lot of people out there that think the markets move ahead of the news. I am one of them. Second, markets can gap immediately after news announcements and can really hurt your execution with every broker. Third, markets often don't react according the exact numbers released in these news announcements. This goes back to the fact that traders are irrational and you have no idea how they will perceive news announcements. This can lead to wild swings, moves opposite of what makes sense, and other crazy events.

So how can someone consistently profit over a long period of time (at least 100 trades) by looking at individual news announcements? You've got me. Even if a trader won at times, how can you be consistent when every reaction is so different? A trader who looks at the big picture over a longer period of time faces a similar problem. Sure, a currency may be "supposed" to move one way based on the economic measures a trader uses, but that only matters if traders buy or sell in that direction. How does this trader know that other traders will rationally interpret this information like he did? On top of that, one of my favorite trading quotations is "the markets can stay irrational much longer than your account can remain solvent." This means that the market could finally come around your way to the rational economic price, but you could already be knocked out by that point.

I could talk forever about this topic, but I will cut myself off for now. The point is that we don't know exactly why prices will move, where they will move, or why they moved where they did. That is why we take the approach of applying a consistent, technical method that has been tested over a long period of time. I will probably write a follow up at some point, because I have a lot more to say on this topic. Hopefully you enjoyed this article and it makes you think about the markets in a slightly different light.

Source: fx360.com

This post has been edited by rstusa: Mar 23 2010, 12:32 PM
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post Mar 23 2010, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Volatile369 @ Mar 23 2010, 11:11 AM)
Thomas, nobody wants to c u sink, bt jz don lose tat trade ok? ur style of trading is high risk for technical traders, bt of coz, high risk gt high return, not suit for everyone..
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yea, no one wants to see u sink. we all want to see the birth of the "chosen one". just like the one winnning lottery or 4d jackpots... those are the "chosen ones"
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Thanks for sharing this article
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For those who doesn't trade during news hours, what is your rule?

How many hour before news and how many hours after news, do you "fast' from trading?

And can i presume that news only refers to those important news, mainly red flags?
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Great article there rstusa..
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EURO DOLLAR IS FALLING DOWN FALLING DOWN...


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QUOTE(thomas @ Mar 23 2010, 10:07 AM)

it will raise to bout 1.3559 then BIG DROP...


almost ady ,now 1.3555, will fall about 35 pips then rebounce abit, fall summore


Added on March 23, 2010, 10:08 am
Ok here... 1st tip as I posted just now,... anyone earn 350 USD ?

2nd tip : for those who LONG gold , you're earning now..

3rd tip : oil undecided...

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great!!! good luck on closing the floating eur/usd
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Mar 23 2010, 02:22 PM)
great!!! good luck on closing the floating eur/usd
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haha thanks for your wishes... it will fall down more...

hey, sing together la...

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