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Oct 1 2010, 10:16 PM
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Oct 3 2010, 08:36 AM
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Oct 3 2010, 10:05 AM
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Oct 4 2010, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Volatile369 @ Oct 4 2010, 03:07 PM) IMHO, the only way to measure forex profits is by trading for a period of at least one year sticking to ONE trading method. Calculate your profits based on ROI in one year period instead of how many % per month.Added on October 4, 2010, 8:35 pm QUOTE(darkorama @ Oct 4 2010, 01:04 PM) Hi everyone, ----------------Im very new to Forex & just opened a demo account with FXopen. I dont have much knowledge of Financial world & a lot of question to ask I start with a few basic question first: 1. Do you recommend the use of indicators for learning & real trading? 2. Lets say everybody uses Fxopen & somehow everybody profits. Where Fxopen get the money to pay? (go easy on me..) I think thats all for now. Thanks Even if you MASTER all these indicators/techniques/systems, you have only mastered 5% of forex success. ...Think about it, if indicators are the secret to forex success, then all these "professors/gurus/experts" who teach these indicators should be the most successful traders. But are they? -------------------------- Copy and pasted from somewhere on the net.............. Added on October 4, 2010, 8:36 pm QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 4 2010, 12:14 PM) mind sharing u use what ways to trade the daily chart ? MA is it ? or just plain SR ? Trend trader aka turtle trader, with renko chart. Parameters will be kept for my self because I am stingy.i got another 10k account which is want to use it for Daily only..... This post has been edited by bulkbiz: Oct 4 2010, 08:39 PM |
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Oct 5 2010, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Oct 5 2010, 12:55 PM) Yes there are but mostly only scalpers get these kind of numbers and it takes about 3-4 hours per day of trading to do it. Funny thing is most people think of FX as an investment, meaning put in money and hope to get some returns in the future. I am not trying to be offensive as well, but I think your advice was the worst advice ever especially for new traders. NO. FX is not investment. It is TRADING and it takes effort. Like any other goods trading business out there, you are attempting to buy low and sell high to make a profit. The more trades you do, the more profit. Just like any other business out there. Lets take 20 trading days per month (easy to count). To make 50% per month, you will need 2.5% per day. If each trade you risk 1 percent with SL at 10pips (meaning every 10 pips is 1%), all you need is 25 pips per day to get your 2.5%. For a scalper, 25 pips is not difficult to get, esp in Malaysia as we get to trade the London/US overlap after work for at least 3-4 hours before we go to bed. If you can't find 25 pips in 3-4 hours of trading the London/US overlap, then whatever system you are using is not working. YES you can make forex as an investment. 50% every month is not realistic, I bet you are not getting this result CONSISTENTLY for the pass ONE YEAR period. 1)Buy Low Sell High - still exist? 2)The more trades you do, the more profit - Are you working for broker? 3)all you need is 25 pips per day to get your 2.5% - Are getting this result long enough to advice new traders? I hope this advice is a joke bro. |
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Oct 5 2010, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Oct 5 2010, 06:48 PM) Another person who does not read before replying. You are not trying to be offensive but I do find it offensive when you reply without reading. Read my replies again. Your reply was the joke as I have already stated that it was never meant to be an advise for new traders. This topic is not only for new traders. You do yours long term as you have once said that 250pips SL represent 5% of your equity on each trade whereas scalpers would have 1% on a 10pip stop loss. You maybe holding +700pips but that is only a mere 15% of your equity if we base 250pips SL on 5% as you have stated early. 150 pips would have been the same as your +700pips for any scalper who has 10pips SL of 1% equity. New traders or old traders, this "advice" for me is a joke. You can give me warning or suspension, I don't really care but I do hope this is not a threat for anyone who don't agree with you. You are this forum's staff but it doesn't mean all your advice is correct. Again I said, even though your advice is for experienced trader, it is still wrong, or probably experienced traders wouldn't even bother.It's all a numbers game. I'm not here to advise new traders and please show me where did I ever posted that my advise was for new traders. I'm getting tired of this. The next person who does not read my replies and say that it is not meant for new traders will be given a warning and suspension for 3 days. That is NO JOKE. An one more thing. Scalping is an advanced trading technique not meant for new traders due to the quick decisions required. Also not recommended for the slow and dim-witted individuals (just in case the next person comes along and say that my reply is a joke and not meant for dim-witted traders). EVERYBODY CLEAR NOW? |
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Oct 5 2010, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Oct 5 2010, 12:55 PM) Yes there are but mostly only scalpers get these kind of numbers and it takes about 3-4 hours per day of trading to do it. Funny thing is most people think of FX as an investment, meaning put in money and hope to get some returns in the future. 1)I am just commenting on all the bold part of your statement. Think about it. Let other trader judge it.NO. FX is not investment. It is TRADING and it takes effort. Like any other goods trading business out there, you are attempting to buy low and sell high to make a profit. The more trades you do, the more profit. Just like any other business out there. Lets take 20 trading days per month (easy to count). To make 50% per month, you will need 2.5% per day. If each trade you risk 1 percent with SL at 10pips (meaning every 10 pips is 1%), all you need is 25 pips per day to get your 2.5%. For a scalper, 25 pips is not difficult to get, esp in Malaysia as we get to trade the London/US overlap after work for at least 3-4 hours before we go to bed. If you can't find 25 pips in 3-4 hours of trading the London/US overlap, then whatever system you are using is not working. 2)A trader that still losing money after trading for 5 years is consider as experienced trader, I really don't want him to see above statement. 3)Casino is setup to make gamblers lose $$$ by its house adv, so is Forex to make traders lose $$$ by its spreads. It's a "MINUS SUM GAME"! (Copy and pasted from the net). So do you thing trade more will make you a forex winner over long term? 4)I know there are many scalpers here, but I don't mind at all they are angry/laughing/critic on me. If you can scalp your way to financial freedom, good for you. Thank you and Happy Trading with your peace of mind. |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:06 AM
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Oct 6 2010, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Oct 6 2010, 10:06 AM) When I lose a trade, it is only 10pips (12 including EU spread) and that is only 1.2% of my equity. I convert scalping into day trading when the opportunity presents itself by moving to BE the moment I make 10pips and then let it run (and locking in profits with jumping stops after that). However, most of the time I would take out profit and immediately go into a reverse trade (keeping in mind that the market moves in micro and mini waves even when it is trending). So sometimes when I'm chasing the market, I can get into a row of losses -12, -12, -12 and then get it right with a +50. Sometimes it's up and down with -5, +15, -12, +10, +13, -2. Just curios, will you keep on trading until you win back all your losses? Or will you cut loss and stop for the day? Or the best thing is you never had a losing day? Please advice me on how you handle this problem, I am kind of interested, maybe one day I will become scalper.It all depends on market conditions. I do not use only technical but I combine it with fundamentals as I try to convert as many scalps into day trading if possible to maximise profit. I use scalping as an entry but not necessary the exit. DISCLAIMER: Before the next joker comes in and yell "THis is a JOKE", please note that I'm answering a direct question to a member and this is my answer to him and not to every newbie or experienced trader. Don't read this if you don't like it. I'm not asking you to follow. It's just a bloody answer to a question. Disclaimer: This question is for you only and sincere from my heart. This post has been edited by bulkbiz: Oct 6 2010, 02:29 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(luqmanz @ Oct 6 2010, 04:52 PM) Thank you for the post. So if lets say ... after 4 hours of trying ... you are still in the red ... you will just close shop and try again tomorow ? Afterall, after 12 pm .. the market is not so active anymore ... That is what I curious about. No losing day, hmmm......I am not gonna talk about long term anymore, no one interested |
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Oct 6 2010, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Volatile369 @ Oct 6 2010, 06:12 PM) Come on bulk, each has pros n cons, doesnt mean that long term trading is no longer useful, all depends on trader, im sure if scalpers hv such gud record as 2.5%, they would be the richest person in lyn in no time.. Haha, by the way, I just really cannot accept the fact when you all said the more you trade, the more you will profit from the market. You can't compare that with doing sales, really.......I really don't know how you can get that kind of PERSPECTIVE. Believe me, it is not correct, and trust me, it is WRONG. Simple analogy: Its like sales, if u do more u earn more, if u find prospect more, ur chance of having sales are higher(doenst mean it hit everyperson correctly).. The cons is u hv to do it everyday to achieve such record.. n no time for following up existing customers. For long term salesperson, they only find gud prospects that can be nurture in the long term, which means jz focusing on quality customers that can giv them long term service.. Bt i found out that, the ones in the first category are mostly ppl who don lead quite a happy life(mostly, not all), coz their energy is putting on hitting sales target. N the second ones are much more happier, coz they tend to achieve balance in their life. so it still depends which vehicle u like to be in, n capable of being in.. It is still my personal opinion, you will see the fact in long run, if your trading experience is less than one year, then I can understand. Just want to add in some more, trading profit is by "magnitude" or how much capital you can put in, not by trading frequency, but take note on the tolerance level that you can handle when you put in more capital. This post has been edited by bulkbiz: Oct 6 2010, 06:43 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(Volatile369 @ Oct 6 2010, 08:30 PM) what i mean by sales is in a given day, a salesperson wil go out and find, let say 5 customers, among the 5 customers der will only be 2 is a potential ones, the other 3 are not customers (this incur cost as well from phone calls, n driving to customers hse). the illustration is, as a scalper, in 5 trades there will be probably 3 are small loses, d other 2 are medium or if(lucky) big winners. Thats wat im trying to say. It is just my opinion bro. I am a straight forward person both online and offline, not trying to show off or what but to tell ppl my feeling towards some not so good advice or answer. I wun even bother to reply if all the comment make me feel bad. This is just a forum I get ur meaning as well, coz long term is a method too, n is proven. jz a matter of whether the trader wants to use which methods only, and of coz, many great guru traders out there also emphasise on long term, coz it elimiate stress in trading, eliminate many broker fees, hv a balanced life, n better judgement, not to mention not easily being whipsawed. so no hard feelings bro, come back to pros n cons.. This post has been edited by bulkbiz: Oct 6 2010, 08:54 PM |
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Oct 7 2010, 08:18 PM
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What motivates you to trade:
----------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- You need to be smart to do this so being successful will validate that I am a smart person. I don’t have anywhere else to go (quoting the movie An Officer and a Gentleman). There are no jobs in my small rural Florida town. Have my wife feel secure and proud of me is the number one motivator for me to be a trader. Need to feel that I can be part of the financial world because I have just failed as a stock broker. I should be able to do this. I would be sexier if I was a good trader. I like the idea of the freedom and not chained to someone else’s authority. I’d love to have a skill to teach to one of my nephews. I’m not the kind of guy who mows lawns. I’d like to have lifestyle freedom like travel whenever I want. I want my mother and stepfather to be proud of me. My stepfather made a lot of money trading futures in ’70s and ’80s then lost most of it in ’90s. I want to be better than his stepfather. I am competing with my stepfather for my mother’s attention. I am also competing with my brothers. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whew, read this from some where which I think is funny. |
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Oct 10 2010, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(Eelinkim @ Oct 10 2010, 01:10 AM) Hi all, im so interested to learn Forex trading and im have been starting to buy some books and search into site about forex so that i can start to know more about forex and how to play with forex. Any sifu here can teach me what is the 1st step i should do and how?? thanks very much. A self study at www.babypips.com/school would help. |
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QUOTE(Volatile369 @ Oct 11 2010, 09:29 AM) About currency wars, do u guys think the world will shift its currency to the renmimbi as their currency of exchange? That is the ideal/realistic return for any kind of investment. Trade your own system for one year, check your ROI after one year, that is the way to calculate forex trading profit. I suggest you don't calculate by monthly basis.Heres a food for thought, i rad Market Wizards by Jack Schwager and found out that the legendary traders only have an annual average return of 40% to 60% per year. So i was thinking if great traders only return that much, how is it us individual traders be more profitable by them by putting a 'goal' of lets say, 100% annual return? |
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Probably I will switch to MIG bank in the future, the first forex bank in switzerland. Can transfer your profit into a bank account.
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