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News Official TM High Speed Broadband (HSBB) Thread V2, TM HSBB Launching Live Now !

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post Mar 16 2010, 10:43 AM

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Hi Mokuton,



HSBB pricing will be revealed when we launch the service on 24 March 2010.



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post Mar 16 2010, 11:10 AM

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HSSB = Leased Line technology

Only the bandwidth is shared not dedicated bandwidth
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post Mar 16 2010, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(MX510 @ Mar 16 2010, 11:10 AM)
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HSSB = Leased Line technology

Only the bandwidth is shared not dedicated bandwidth
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example 1 million streamyx users migrate to hsbb. TM provides dedicated bandwidth for each user (pure 10Mbps per user)

1,000,000 users x 10Mbps = 10,000,000 Mbps = 9765.625 Gbps

TM should have that amount of bandwidth for international link. since TM got only 300-400Gbps, well I guess I expect really slow connection (similar to 1Mbps) to international site biggrin.gif
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post Mar 16 2010, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Mar 16 2010, 11:26 AM)
example 1 million streamyx users migrate to hsbb. TM provides dedicated bandwidth for each user (pure 10Mbps per user)

1,000,000 users x 10Mbps = 10,000,000 Mbps = 9765.625 Gbps

TM should have that amount of bandwidth for international link. since TM got only 300-400Gbps, well I guess I expect really slow connection (similar to 1Mbps) to international site biggrin.gif
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We do not use the full capacity of our links, do we? I have a 512 Kbps subscription with TM, which gives 400 Kbps to 520 Kbps of downlink speed quite consistently. My usage is at most a few hundred MB a month, which is in average (500 MB x 8 b/B) / (30 days x 24 hours/day x 3600 seconds/hour) = 0.00154 Mbps. Of course, my active time may be only 30 minutes a day, resulting in a more realistic 0.074 Mbps of average bandwidth consumption.

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post Mar 16 2010, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Mar 16 2010, 11:26 AM)
example 1 million streamyx users migrate to hsbb. TM provides dedicated bandwidth for each user (pure 10Mbps per user)

1,000,000 users x 10Mbps = 10,000,000 Mbps = 9765.625 Gbps

TM should have that amount of bandwidth for international link. since TM got only 300-400Gbps, well I guess I expect really slow connection (similar to 1Mbps) to international site biggrin.gif
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so that means provided everyone is using 1mbps rite now .. the bandwidth will be 976.5625 Gbps same oso la still slow ..
but yet we can still use ..

anyway its not like people using youtube/p2p 24/7 ..
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post Mar 16 2010, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Mar 16 2010, 10:12 AM)
As a matter of fact, there will be no increase in this capacity expected until that Asia America Gateway is completed somewhere, IINM, in 2012*.
The AAG started operating around Dec 2009.

QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Mar 16 2010, 10:12 AM)
You can see from the FAQ that they have already made provisions for this in their T&C. They guarantee 90++% of the rated speeds for local - local connections, but anything that goes international is bound by the "best effort" T&C.
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Local connections are within their control so they can try to ensure a certain level of service. There is no way to guarantee end-to-end speeds over international links to all over the world as there are too many factors that come into play for such a connection.

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post Mar 16 2010, 01:00 PM

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so is anyone here is going to dataran merdeka on next wednesday?

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QUOTE(rasyid @ Mar 16 2010, 12:36 PM)
so that means provided everyone is using 1mbps rite now .. the bandwidth will be 976.5625 Gbps same oso la still slow ..
but yet we can still use ..

anyway its not like people using youtube/p2p 24/7 ..
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still, tm cut a few bandwidth amount from each user so they can get a new subscriber.
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QUOTE(rasyid @ Mar 16 2010, 12:36 PM)
so that means provided everyone is using 1mbps rite now .. the bandwidth will be 976.5625 Gbps same oso la still slow ..
but yet we can still use ..

anyway its not like people using youtube/p2p 24/7 ..
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Yes, it is why TM has said that 20% users using 80% bandwidth last time. It is still the same now. What I'm saying is that don't have expectations that we can get full bandwidth when downloading off international contents.

But looking at the bright side, at least we can have better connections locally. And users can also share files e.g. patches, freeware, applications, drivers, trailers, through torrent community. That would be fast. In fact, it should be encouraged that everyone shares file through torrent. That would save our international bandwidth link.

Just a suggestion here, maybe LYN can host legal torrents for drivers and patches so everyone can share?
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Mar 16 2010, 01:24 PM)
Yes, it is why TM has said that 20% users using 80% bandwidth last time. It is still the same now. What I'm saying is that don't have expectations that we can get full bandwidth when downloading off international contents.

But looking at the bright side, at least we can have better connections locally. And users can also share files e.g. patches, freeware, applications, drivers, trailers, through torrent community. That would be fast. In fact, it should be encouraged that everyone shares file through torrent. That would save our international bandwidth link.

Just a suggestion here, maybe LYN can host legal torrents for drivers and patches so everyone can share?
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good idea but im afraid it will be misused lol, tm really need to upgrade its international bandwitdh instead of giving to other isp
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Mar 16 2010, 01:06 PM)
still, tm cut a few bandwidth amount from each user so they can get a new subscriber.
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Bandwidth is shared. If you were to get a 10Mbps dedicated connection (like a leased line), you would probably have to pay in the thousands of RM per month.

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QUOTE(rasyid @ Mar 16 2010, 12:36 PM)
so that means provided everyone is using 1mbps rite now .. the bandwidth will be 976.5625 Gbps same oso la still slow ..
but yet we can still use ..

anyway its not like people using youtube/p2p 24/7 ..
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Precisely. Nobody maximises their connection 24/7. That's why all ISPs around the world sell shared lines. It's the reason why broadband can be offered at competitive rates.

QUOTE(mylinear @ Mar 16 2010, 12:49 PM)
The AAG started operating around Dec 2009.
Local connections are within their control so they can try to ensure a certain level of service. There is no way to guarantee end-to-end speeds over international links to all over the world as there are too many factors that come into play for such a connection.
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Is it operating at full capacity? If it already is, then maybe I might have been reading about a different gateway, then. rclxub.gif

If everything TM does is proper, then "best effort" is perfectly reasonable. Unfortunately, we know it's not. wink.gif
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Share line = Share IP?

i hate share IP, which hard to download and upload also create servers
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QUOTE(Anime4000 @ Mar 16 2010, 02:46 PM)
Share line = Share IP?

i hate share IP, which hard to download and upload also create servers
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shared line means that one line in this case fiber cable is shared to multiple users and they get different IPs like how TM is now, while shared IP is like our standard home network where we have a router and multiple computers...and one IP.
in short - shared line - multiple computers - multiple IP
shared IP - multiple computers - one IP..
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Mar 16 2010, 11:26 AM)
example 1 million streamyx users migrate to hsbb. TM provides dedicated bandwidth for each user (pure 10Mbps per user)

1,000,000 users x 10Mbps = 10,000,000 Mbps = 9765.625 Gbps

TM should have that amount of bandwidth for international link. since TM got only 300-400Gbps, well I guess I expect really slow connection (similar to 1Mbps) to international site biggrin.gif
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Read: Contention ratio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contention_ratio
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Mar 16 2010, 11:26 AM)
example 1 million streamyx users migrate to hsbb. TM provides dedicated bandwidth for each user (pure 10Mbps per user)

1,000,000 users x 10Mbps = 10,000,000 Mbps = 9765.625 Gbps

TM should have that amount of bandwidth for international link. since TM got only 300-400Gbps, well I guess I expect really slow connection (similar to 1Mbps) to international site biggrin.gif
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Sillyness. Every consumer ISP in the world oversubscribes. 20-to-1, even 100-to-1. It would be a colossal waste of resources to allocate international connectivity equivalent to the full last-mile bandwidth for every user. When you subscribe to 10mbps service, should TM make sure you have a dedicated 10mbps pathway to Japan, another to China, another to Europe, and another to USA? Even if they were the most efficient company in the world, your service would cost about RM50K per month.
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They will still need better international links to support the new volume.

Normally the other countries get away with it due to fair usage policies, or bandwidth cap whatever you call it.
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i'm curious..HSBB function is the same as Maxis/Celcom bb?
i mean..just plug the device(or modem) without any cable, and we get the connection.
am i correct?

but HSBB use FiberTerminationBox and FiberWallSocket.
that means my uni(uia pj) is not covered with HSBB yet? bcos i can confirm that those 2 things are not installed in this campus.
eventhough TM Tower is just 3-5 km from here..

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Just got my HSBB installed in my home in Bangsar.
Like some of you here, can't use my Linksys WRT120N router also.......
Settings are same as the D-Link one...... but still can't connect to the internet.

Hopefully it's fixed once the service is going national.

Anybody have any success with a different Router?
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post Mar 16 2010, 05:07 PM

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I don't really understand. On the 24th of March is registration becoming available or are the prices just going to be announced?

I live in TTDI, and my condo is provisioned with HSBB.

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