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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V37!, The Orange Legion

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post Feb 18 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(achew @ Feb 18 2010, 12:11 AM)
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buy mac pro with a apple cinema display la.. =p
to be frank i LOVE my imac alot alot..but i dont like to manage too many computers at the same time..so ended up with my macbookpro most of the time due to the mobility..
and the lantern thingy..im talking about msia..not singapore..

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i love that shot...the light...the skin..everything...even tho the kid does look a lil bit evil..lol...but still..LOVE IT~
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hehehe... apple... mmm... will think slowly... the problem is, its a greed, not a need >.< that why its a deep reconsideration. lol

msia? maybe near airport area? or housing area? coz the thing might fall and burn someone house down...
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post Feb 18 2010, 04:53 PM

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albnok: okay, 27inch mac out... now hunting something else to buy... finding poison to consume... wahhahahaha
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post Feb 18 2010, 11:09 PM

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dazzle: i am happy that u look over to sony's Alpha system as a 2nd system, but deep from my heart, i advise u to go for another nikon body as 2nd body, say D3s if u could afford it. because, when getting a sony alpha system, u would have to buy a huge expensive range of lenses again, and they cant be shared with ur nikon system. if u were to obtain D3s or D3(less expensive) u could easily utilize the nikkor u already have. but, it's your money, if u wish to grab some CarlZeiss poison, you are definitely welcome biggrin.gif

just now went to a millionaire house... snap snap snap... and he even put up his own fireworks show... and WOW... super big...

fisheye, exposure unknown, F8, iso200
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(manually PP on multiple exposure point, the long exposure cause the building to overexposure, so i use multiple picture to burn it down)
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post Feb 18 2010, 11:13 PM

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tethering? u mean the lanyard support or wifi support? lol
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post Feb 18 2010, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(gizmo_pony @ Feb 18 2010, 11:18 PM)
I mean, tethering the A550 with computer, and at the same time getting the image at your computer screen while shooting :-)
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oh, nope, they dont. only A700 and higher model has it.
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post Feb 21 2010, 03:05 AM

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it's been a long time i last did any portraiture... and a bit rusty...

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post Feb 21 2010, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(wingster @ Feb 21 2010, 03:46 PM)
hmm interestingly introducing IS for Sony....

as I saw the review of using an IS lens on the built-in stabilizer camera body (they test on Olympus)

as the testing

if you switch your camera body IS and IS Lens together will cause the lens malfunction and creeping sound so switch either one side to avoid the malfunction

so either way; off you camera body IS and on Lens IS or on your camera body and switch on Lens IS

however conclusion for having an IS lens for Alpha Body....... is turned the IS on the Lens and shut the SSS down is much better because for Sony Body IS, you wouldn't saw the stabilize effect on OVF or Live View (unlike Olympus which has stabilize effect on Live View)
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did u know, ur OVF (all SLR type) will black out when u release the shutter? then, what u wan to see? ppl over-market the lens stabilizer till a point i dont even get what they trying to sell?

i prefer SSS, reason is simple... u will know u(ur hand) are shaking less in OVF when u see less shake.... then u know is the best time to release, having the SSS to compasate the min workload.... then Not knowing how much the in lens stabilizer is working(at max 3-4 stop compasate movement?), and just snap, and the stabilizer working 2-3 times harder then SSS, and more compasation (more internal compasate lens moving) and logically, image will be more soft due to the light passing through the compasate lens is unstable. unless u plan to shoot at F8 to get sharper photo... wait, isnt F8 the main reason u get slow shutter??? go figure tongue.gif


Added on February 21, 2010, 9:24 pmA700 sucessor, will be in APS-C, there is no point to go FF, as they have FF range for it... it's like asking canon 60D to go FF or D90/D400 successor to go FF when they have D900...

A7xx will be a flagship for APS-C. for those planing to go FF, (a850 or a900), pls wait a little longer... coz the A7xx will blow u away that u will regret going the older generation of FF so quickly... it will create a benchmark between the old generation camera and new generation... better u wait for the A9xx where it will have all the goodies that A7xx will offer.

now i myself headache,... A7xx or A9xx..... so hard to decide...

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post Feb 21 2010, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(wingster @ Feb 21 2010, 09:31 PM)
but so far I testing for IS Lenses, it gives the steady when you half pressing the shutter and focusing, making more easy to snap in an accurate way and yeah those lens were just work well and sharp.

Well so far the image will be so horrible soft or is in certain situation and yet not all the IS Lens suppose to be like you said rite if your statement is true wasn't that the other brands without built-in IS and rely on IS Lens will makes so much of trouble for them?
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i never use the word horrible. that was ur assumption. IS/VR/OS/VC, they dont give the IQ when u Compare to when u OFF it, and able to shoot provided that ur lens dont shake and body doesnt vibrate(MLU). comparing the stabilizer to itself first (on and off) first, try not bring the SSS into this battle first.... then u will learn why i said those image stabilizer overmarket themself. infact, u will learn, many people prefer to shoot with the IS/VR/VC/OS off and bump up the ISO to get the shutterspeed. but in the end, yes, lens stabilization is a good Add-on (for those non body stabilization). but using OS(sigma) on alpha body... that is a big thought to go through.


Added on February 21, 2010, 10:19 pm
QUOTE(e-jump @ Feb 21 2010, 09:51 PM)
i guess no point for me to wait a700s FF version as its obviously will be priced same/above a900 for the features.
a850, here i come
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No it will NOT. i dunno where u get that logic(or speculation that A700"s" will be FF) LOL. A7xx APS-C, it will not pass the rm5k mark. if 6 month later, it might drop to 4k+ margin. and it wont be FF no matter how. i guess u are talking bout A9xx.... and, it might be around A900 first released price. but that is still about a whole year of wait. but u sure cursing that, A850/900 wont have the A7xx functions when the A7xx release... stick a while longer to see what A7xx has to offer. Panasweep anyone?

the best what A550 has to offer over A850/900 is the auto HDR... if they release a firmware for AutoHDR in A850/900 i am pretty sure the A850/900 sale will goes even higher. (some might think not, but it was proven human behavior reacts to better offer even thou they dont need it)

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post Feb 22 2010, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 21 2010, 06:56 PM)
ieR: Somehow I think her pensive look might work better in portrait orientation.

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i assumed that turning to portrait orientation also means tighter crop... so i went all the way...


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edit: now i look at the picture as a whole, it looked weird... should i move the body to the centre? i was trying to have her head more towards the right side...

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post Feb 22 2010, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(alex_cyw1985 @ Feb 22 2010, 12:18 AM)
sifu sifu...

in night shot. with bright background (e.g FGS Lantern).

How to take portrait without flash and the face can be c clearly?
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put the model on the tripod so the model wont move.... joking~~~

i assume u really wrote, Bright background.... actually its kinda hard, because iether u overexpose the BG to have a balance Foreground (model)....

another way, which require a lot of works... is to shoot RAW, having average exposure in between the model and BG, then go back, process one with +2ev(for model) and -2ev(for background) and merge them manually (careful with HDR software, they might overcook them)

*depending on the exposure differences, it might only need a +-1 eV instead of 2.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 22 2010, 12:39 AM)
on another note:

Camera Model - Sony Alpha A700
Lens - Minolta 35-70 @ 70mm
Exposure - 1/125 s, f/9 @ 100 ISO


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wireless flash on wall at the back.
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i prefer if the figurine is sharp as whole... ermm the boob... is blurred :/


and diffuse ur pop up flash, the harsh shadow under the *wing? on the right side...

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post Feb 22 2010, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 22 2010, 01:13 AM)
hahhaa, it's my friend's. CNY party at her house, i was early, so took out my flash and started shooting her figurines. can actually see cobwebs on the neck >.<


Added on February 22, 2010, 1:15 amieR: oops, didnt notice that. coz normally dun shoot figurines, so my pop up flash normally dont need any diffusing tongue.gif taken note ^^v


Added on February 22, 2010, 1:17 amieR: what do you suggest on the DOF? its already at f/9. u reckon need to boost it up some more?
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pumping up aperture might cause a diff shadow reaction or exposure reaction (shadow castout).... maybe u can pull back a little (that way the DOF will goes wide naturally) and still able to crop the photo having the same nice composition wink.gif who knows the pop up flash may diffuse too naturally.


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QUOTE(yinho @ Feb 22 2010, 01:29 AM)
Which one is a700 replacement?

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NOOOOO whyyyy whyyyy WHHWHYYYYYY.... why they have to use that STUPID on/off switch at the shutter release?!?!?!! I HATE THAT... whyyy, why not use the old school on/off switch behind there?!?!? whyyyyyyyyyyyyy so sadddddddd cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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post Feb 22 2010, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(yinho @ Feb 22 2010, 01:37 AM)
the top buttons is gone.
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hey, they have a lcd panel? COOL! i think there why the botton is missing~

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QUOTE(achew @ Feb 22 2010, 01:39 AM)
but i dont find that lcd useful leh..maybe its not my shooting style..i almost never look at my top lcd b4..lol
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well the lcd is bigger, so it means can hold more info... and u might even 'off' the 3inch lcd and save major 100-200 shoots batt life wink.gif
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albnok... i think, i hope... they have a button, to press to diactivate AF to MF silently in the A7xx (and release the button it goes backs to AF)... then u can manually MF silently... LOL... flipping the switch is not a good idea for video as it will jerk the whole camera i think..

will try recrop it... so u wan the whole legs (feet) to be in?

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but i think the lcd panel will save a lot batt power by turning the 3inch lcd off... i also hope they have tilt-able LCD, or a version with tiltable... and i still believe the tilt-able will sell more... lol
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albnok: HAHAHAHA, true true... i might call u someday to talk about APS-C of A7xx and A850's FF... i still got 2-3 months to decide till the A7xx reach shore. or A300+70200G

lwliam: well... wingster has been talking a lot nonsense lately... but if he were to jump ship... i dont think is bad idea also... he at least will learn other machine limitation and update us here biggrin.gif since he talks a lot

wingster: there will be a FF pro series,... but not so soon, coz A850 still fresh in the market... and instead of using the same advancement from A7xx... its better idea to use some newer then A7xx tech in the new A9xx right? why rush to make cameras? look at nikon solution to A330 and A380, the D3000 and D5000 which is so terrible. and canon's 1000D during the A300 time... those model were rush model. no rush okay? take their time and surprise us pls.

*typo, changed 3000D to D3000, LOL

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DOF button?


albnok: who knows, by turning off the 3inch lcd, it somehow contribute to the coolness of the sensor... and hence lower noise by heat?

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Feb 22 2010, 02:39 AM)
:nods: but how often do you use it? i can honestly say including my A100 days, till today, i've used that button like less than 10 times for its actual purpose, the other times i use it is it test COD lenses for its aperture smoothness


Added on February 22, 2010, 2:41 amieR's got a point there...
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that why i asking, DOF button? its useful for film era, coz they cant snap, 'review' and snap again... so they need to know the DOF before snapping. i had any body with DOF... so i wouldnt know how will it affect my shooting...
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lwliam i just realize u PP Braindead's photo, and yes, it is terrible over saturated even with my cool-calibrated monitor.

albnok the A7xx gives a very mixed feeling.. it seem... hype... but... there is a "but", when A700 and A300 era, we keep thinking how they can implement LV without removing the pentaprism... now... with A7xx out... a lot of idea going in and out wildly...

and if sony EVIL is less then 1.5k, (and add rm300 for the EtoAmount adapter) i'd buy it for my gf biggrin.gif

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