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Mr.Docter
post Feb 20 2010, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Feb 20 2010, 02:17 AM)
yea screemo, u go check this guy's review =.=
he got many problems. after running gta4 for 20 minutes then bla bla his m11x freeze >.<
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread...459270&page=137
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the owner is runnin GTA4 using this babe?! shocking.gif

sound like torturing a kid~ sweat.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 08:16 AM

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Looking at h0M3bReW3r's case, several factors comes into light.

1. I don't know about anyone here, but if I get a hard drive based laptop, I would NEVER flip or move around the laptop while it is booting up. Especially during first bootup. Just look at how he treats it during the unboxing video. Flip left, right, even tip it up and under so that he can video-record the underside for the lighting on the exhaust port! Now either the HDD itself has SMART capabilities to autoshut to prevent HDD head diving into the platter itself or not, this is a big no-no! Those action alone may have created bad sectors onto the drive, even more critical when it is his first bootup!

2. From what I read, his OC is fine with 1.6, but crashed at 1.73. Question is, where did he do his overclocking on? On that soft bed he did the unboxing? Covering the exhaust port underneath the laptop with bedsheets is only asking for trouble, especially when you are OCing the laptop. Heat needs to dissipate fast, and covering the only exit vent will only cause internal temp to rise and eventually? System shutdown due to excessive temperature.

3. Personally, I'm happy with 1.6Ghz. I plan to OC it that way. From the hardwareheaven review, the OCing penalty is almost begligible, only 1C temp rise. Stressing it to 1.73? Well, take it this way lah. I had engineering samples of the Athlon FX processor years ago during my overclocking days. Even with these engineering samples which are supposed to be superior than retail version, you are still up to a measure of luck to see if your batch overclocks better or performs only slightly better than retail processors. You take chances, there is no sure thing when it comes to overclocking. Too many variables are involved, INCLUDING the ambient environment variables like ample airflow, circulating surrounding temperature, your method of transporting away the hot air away from the processor so that it performs better, and such.

The point here is, the laptop performs fine as it is advertised. If you're buying it based on its overclocking abilities, then it is already the wrong reason to buy it. Alienware, IIANM, never advertised it as overclockable-steady nor does the machine itself is intended to do so. Only the hardware geeks among us who wants to push the poor little thing to its limits would want to risk doing so.

EDIT: Reading back again, it's reported that he hasn't any temp issues. In that case, more like it is about the power draw from the power supply unit. Undervolting may work, but that remains to be seen, or tried by the guys who already have their M11X.

Again, this happens only during the excessive 1.73 overclock. I'd take 1.6 anytime and be happy with it. Don't know how much faster you can do things with a mere 0.13Ghz of extra processor speed.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Feb 20 2010, 08:22 AM
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post Feb 20 2010, 08:33 AM

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Also important point brought up by NBR member krackmonkey:-

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This thing's been in the wild "officially" less than 48 hours. As an IT professional in an all Dell shop, I see BIOS updates come fast and furious in the first weeks/months of a new chipset. What the M11x is doing today with the BIOS as shipped is by no means something anyone should consider indicative of what this laptop will be capable of in the days to come. Trust me, BIOS updates and firmware updates can make a night/day difference in certain configurations. Let this beast cause a few problems under real-world use and see what the engineers do to fix things via updates. It will make a difference, and I have the patience to know that cutting edge hardware always has bleeding edge growing pains attached to it.

In a month, I bet we're all laughing about this. Or at least the patient ones who didn't rush to cancel their orders...


Incidentally, an A01 BIOS is already in the Dell Support section at this link. Whether this is already the one in the M11X when it ships or a new one, I cant tell since I have not received mine yet.

Long story short, relaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax.
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post Feb 20 2010, 08:37 AM

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Now some people are saying using 3rd party OC tools will void warranty..

So the one given by Dell/Alienware in the BIOS should be better to use lol..
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post Feb 20 2010, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 20 2010, 08:37 AM)
Now some people are saying using 3rd party OC tools will void warranty..

So the one given by Dell/Alienware in the BIOS should be better to use lol..
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i already conform this matter and if damage due to OCing is detected, your warranty will be void.

feel free to reconfirming with SA smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 08:44 AM

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This is bad......

Then 3 years Complete Cover can be useless when I void the warranty lol..

Some are saying take out the CMOS battery to clear the CMOS? hehehe
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 20 2010, 08:44 AM)
This is bad......

Then 3 years Complete Cover can be useless when I void the warranty lol..

Some are saying take out the CMOS battery to clear the CMOS?  hehehe
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yep. totally agree with bolded part.

i heard about that too, but no thanks! biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 08:58 AM

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Would u keep ur RM473 to OC with the default 1 year Complete Cover? hehehe..

Or break ur M11x when theres a M11x-R2 on sight haha
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 20 2010, 08:58 AM)
Would u keep ur RM473 to OC with the default 1 year Complete Cover? hehehe..

Or break ur M11x when theres a M11x-R2 on sight haha
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haha.

based on my experience, this OCing stuff is only eager to be done once you get your laptop. maybe lasting for new first months.

after a few month, people not interested in OCing anymore and just use the default clock already.

maybe they already know their laptop's capabilities or scared anything bad happend.

the bolded part is my reason biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Feb 20 2010, 09:05 AM)
haha.

based on my experience, this OCing stuff is only eager to be done once you get your laptop. maybe lasting for new first months.

after a few month, people not interested in OCing anymore and just use the default clock already.

maybe they already know their laptop's capabilities or scared anything bad happend.

the bolded part is my reason biggrin.gif
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I dunno why u guys just need to OC ur rig.. hmm.gif
I really scare of it and i think i wont hurt my babe ..
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post Feb 20 2010, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(cy-yang @ Feb 20 2010, 09:23 AM)
I dunno why u guys just need to OC ur rig.. hmm.gif
I really scare of it and i think i wont hurt my babe ..
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thats the best, mate nod.gif

but sometimes people eager to know how far their machine can be stressed biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 09:36 AM

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@cy-yang

I bet ur T9600 can OC to 3.2GHz? hehehe biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 20 2010, 09:36 AM)
@cy-yang

I bet ur T9600 can OC to 3.2GHz? hehehe biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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ehem! try to injecting curiosity, i presume? laugh.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 20 2010, 09:36 AM)
@cy-yang

I bet ur T9600 can OC to 3.2GHz? hehehe biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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haha..
drool.gif can bo..
i think cannot la.
+ i wont hurt my babe 1st.. haha
wait after 2 or 3 month then will try it maybe..
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better dont lose ur Complete Cover u got 3 years rite? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Feb 20 2010, 10:27 AM)
better dont lose ur Complete Cover u got 3 years rite? tongue.gif
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Yea.. so better safety 1st.. rclxms.gif
I will only take a good care of my beast..
Don wanna hurt it.. whistling.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 10:47 AM

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Looks like they're speaking the truth. A refreshing change.

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Shipped! rclxms.gif
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post Feb 20 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Feb 20 2010, 10:47 AM)
Looks like they're speaking the truth. A refreshing change.

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Shipped! rclxms.gif
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Congrats..
I think u'll receive ur M11x wiwithin next week..
remember pic and the benchmark smile.gif ..
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post Feb 20 2010, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(cy-yang @ Feb 20 2010, 10:52 AM)
Congrats..
I think u'll receive ur M11x wiwithin next week..
remember pic and the benchmark  smile.gif ..
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Thank you. nod.gif I allow myself a little bit of hope and delight with this news, hopefully arrive before my flight to Adelaide.
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if the first batch comes out do u think thay will make the second batch faster or the same??(as slow as now)

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