Hi guys... i'm driving a gen2 cps... and looking for further details on cps immobilizer...
AFAIK for cps the immobilizer is built-in into the ECU and the key has a chip in it...
can i disable the OEM immobilizer? any idea on the cost?

p/s: so far during my search immobilizer only found this thread below....
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/692966

I'm going for keyless start. The whole point of me posting here is to avoid the engine locking up by ecu. So i need to know what options do i have before i decide on the next course of action.

I already did that bro... it doesn't seem to work... anyhow will try again tomorrow with different positions... thanks a lot though

Nope the key(I'm referring to the metal part) and the immobilizer chip inside the key fob(the plastic casing) are not connected physically... no wires no nothing...
however the chip inside the key fob is quite close to the key itself...
tomorrow i'm going in with a multimeter too... will update the findings...

Zen,

"Meanwhile there is a seperate module for the captor" there is already a module built-in into CPS? meaning to say all i have to do is to subscribe for CAPTOR service and no need to install their hardware 2K++??

BTW the new alarm system i plan to install also has a transponder i presume since without the keyfob inside the car i shouldn't be able to start the car. Are you saying other transponder may interfere with OEM unit/receiver?

Yeap mrL, i can't think of anythin else other than RFID.

BTW i got to work today. Spiroth you were right.
findings:
1. The chip must be within approx 1 cm from the keyhole
2. The chip must be near during the LOCK position itself before turning to ACC(if in Lock position the chip is not there, u turn key to ACC and then put the chip nearby... the engine won't start).
3. Once started if you remove the chip the engine remains running (tested for a bout 1 mins only)
4. Once engine stop/dies (if earlier the chip was removed after starting) we have to turn the key all the way to Lock position to start it back again with the chip in place. <-- very2 dangerous

Hahahah... item 1 quite tough due to the receiver is inside it... the rests quite possible...
my ultimate aim is to have keyless start... tutorial depends on my success


okay

Read somewhere it might be replaced with Lancer... not sure how true it is though


EDIT
p/s: anyone knows where i can get the EZ Start? take a look at the link below post 142.
EZ Start



This post has been edited by greddy: Mar 2 2010, 11:42 PM

Mine Gen2CPS.. almost 1 year old... below my ride's stats

Highway below 3100-3200 RPM... for 370KM consumed 19.5 liters
That comes up to about 5.3L/100KM

Highway <3500 RPM for 370KM consumed 29.5 liters which comes up to about 8L/100KM - this was when i came "THAT" close to touching the 190KM/H mark.

City Driving - Work place 20KM away and usually drive 110-120KM/H, after work drive to gym/pool then dinner... So far full tank approx 39 liter lasted for max of 6 days...

well the thing is we don't drive in the highway all the time... so city driving should be taken into consideration... you can get good figures if you're easy on the throttle... but with a cps powered car... i can barely resist going above 4500rpm before gear change.... and every time i do that i feel so alive...
it's like the same feeling when i drove R34 Auto... but on a much much smaller scale of course...

mrl your are from kuantan??? huhu... i'm workin in kerteh...

Anyway guys.... I did this mod already to connect my 3gs... give me a day or two to find the pics... i'll post step by step guide how i did it... and it's definitely worth it and much cheaper then buying the ori cable...

Yeap the guide posted by AhPaul is quite detailed already...

Though i would to add some details
- Remember before you open anything, complete the cable first and test it.
- The 3.5mm audio connector you can find in electronic parts shops but please make sure it's a stereo not mono and at least 1.5 meter so that u can place it anywhere you want.
- The shop should have the connector pins too. Get the ones 3mm width and length doesn't matter (width is important... if too big it'll bump the other pins on HU...
- Get some heat shrink tubes as well... for a neat look... wire tapes are messy

Bro.. update me if it solves the rattling sound... cause i too have the dashboard rattling sound which i think is coming from the aircond vent... the sound is really annoying man...

It's the fins eh.... hmm... can it be changed under warranty... i don't hear it on my colleagues gen2cps ...
And guys... normally when you switch on the aircond, will hear the wind noise gushing out of the vent... but i can hear the rotary blades... it's like a pulse sound (very mild *cluck*3 sound).... you guys have it ???

Btw tomorrow going to SC for service and get my steering rack bush changed... maybe will ask them to take a look at the aircond unit as well...

That would be nice...

Bro what tyre(brand/model) you using at the moment... i'm running on 195/50 R16 ASTAR 300 by Sime planning to change to a wider either 205 or 215...

Bro how does the ride feel with RE001... Sidewall flex and Alignment (pulling to left/right) and wet condition? say u run over a large puddle of water will it pull or just break through it.. at where and how much u bought it for?

This post has been edited by greddy: Mar 27 2010, 10:04 PM

Thx for the link bro...
Anyway i consider wet condition one of the important factor... tropical climate... you never know when it rains and i want absolute confidence on my tires which is the only piece of rubber that keeps me attached to the road and go where i want it to go. Luck is something subjective... when it'll run out no one can tell, but we can't live in fear luck may run out, we need to LIVE before we DIE . Driving fast is not necessarily dangerous but driving recklessly is.

Back to the tires... I would say that i actually had good wet performance when i was in stock setup 15" stock alloy and eagle NCT 5 rubber. Now i'm running on 16" 650kg/wheel alloy with astar300 rubber, ride is sharper and reduced flex due to lower profile but somehow i couldn't get the wet performance. Do you think it could be the rim weight?
I hope it improves when i go from 195 to 205 but i know more rubber doesn't mean good wet performance...

Anyone here with Gen2 CPS on MPS3 ???

This post has been edited by greddy: Mar 28 2010, 04:29 AM

RE-01 is symmetrical ryt... is quieter than RE-001? How much is it bro?


Bro it's not RIM weight, if each rim weigh 650kg cannot carry edi , anyway my bad.. they way i wrote is misleading... it's actually the rated load it can take... this value is usually stamped on the RIM... for alloy rims the lesser this value the lighter the rim should (strictly speaking of Cast Alu Alloy Wheels)
but if you want to measure the rim weight you can do it bro... using a hanging scale... judging from hand carrying rim will be 11-15kg for 16" i guess... but not really sure la...

any comments on the falken ZE-912 performance bro?

When a tire fails to break the water it aquaplanes, of course it varies with speed (Il take highway speed limit 110-120 km/h as my benchmark). BTW I think my next tire I'll go for RE-01 or RE-001
Thank you all for the input.... really appreciate it...

Satria Neo R3 115K... isn't that a tad too expensive....

drive fast wet condition means want to die? I've said once and i'll say it again... driving fast doesn't kill... driving reckless does...

The turbocharged version is based on CAMPRO right? Read somewhere (very long ago) CPS can't or hard to fix turbo.. not sure true or not...

Bro very nice... with those mod you're getting 140HP cool .... the dyno chart you posted is yours or Neo R3?

RE-01 must ask kobe10 bro... but from the looks of it must be pretty expensive like 500+

On my RIM it was stamped on it... not sure why yours don't have.. something like this

so it is true that CPS is hard to be turbocharged...
Haha... for a moment i thought that dyno was yours... lucky i asked...
So like the R3, reflash or piggyback we might be able to increase and distribute the torque value...???



Hahah... i mean no harm bro, totally cool with VerM.. like you said it's just different point of view...
just sharing what i know.. risks are everywhere... mitigating it is what sets people apart
focusing while driving is key.... "good drivers... just drive..." hahahah heard that somewhere...
btw if you guys have the opportunity to get into defensive driving course i would suggest grab it.... really worth it... fun, informative and exciting too... took it sometime in 2008.

Next step maybe attend stunt driving course like the police guys... that would be cool... den i can direct my one Italian Job... muahahahah.... sorry.. over excited..

YES...
for proton i presume ABS + EBD = Electronic Stability (sumtin like VSA of honda) NO ?

This post has been edited by greddy: Apr 3 2010, 09:31 AM

Agreed.. but with ABS + EBD = we the driver can be the ESC (lets call it Manual SC or MSC) but might not be as efficient as the computer ESC hehe...
Imagine this... you miscalculate a corner and entered at higher speed... you took the corner and start realizing that you are understeering... u hit the brakes... but since u have ABS you won't lock up... and since we have EBD the braking would be such that you can still steer the car to path you want it to.... when you're back to the line you wanted to be you take the foot of the brakes and slam on the accelerator.... Tada!!! you've just witnessed MSC

BTW the above is my personnel experience in kuantan ... there's this bypass road from semambu main road to the highway heading to kemaman, it cuts through a besi buruk and a temple... it's a winding road.. not sure the distance but quite short stretch... i found the road by chance when using GPS and let me tell you every time i head to kemaman back from kuantan i never fail to race that road... (can't use nighttime as it is pitch dark and you're simply asking for trouble). Every turn the tire screams and understeer and i play with brake and throttle all the way... 3rd gear max.... wow... i got a lil bit excited didn't i... hahahahah CPS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

mrl you in kuantan right... you know the road?

Anyway does GEN2 CPS has ESC? if it does i don't know if it's helping me or not....

Bro how do you plan to cut the power from engine to each wheel individually??? and what if it's a front wheel/rear wheel drive... these doesn't have power on all wheel does it.... that being said you can however cut the power from the engine to all wheel at one go.. similar to engaging your clutch... ESC applies brake to individual wheels...