thread derailed already, thanks to dreamer.

you're a bitter old man dreamer. good for you.

point taken..but it doesn't give anyone the right to look down on one's achievement and the hard work of some people just because they are involved in

so called 'apartheid educational establishment'...assuming ALL those involved are all being accepted by some so called lousy unjustified polices....one's

potential cannot be determined with ease just because the person did not choose to take the 'orthodox' (as people view it) way...there are plenty of

possibilities that what or may could happen....n you u r telling for those who have labored in their (of any race in that matter) hard work sincerely with

all their heart is something to be ashamed of just because they are in the involve in an improper,unjustified,unfair, lousy education system....the fault

lies within system...and not the student....therefore such is really uncalled for.....

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Added on February 7, 2010, 10:13 amWhat is your point actually...Please do enlightened me....My English? My Pass failures? or is it just because some people here are playing the blame

game just because of some policies that we have no control off?

This post has been edited by yana89: Feb 7 2010, 10:22 AM

yana89,

You have NO IDEA what I am talking about. But, you ILLUSTRATES perfectly what is WRONG with UiTM. If you REALLY want to know, print out your posts and show it to someone else outside of UiTM. Especially, to a non-bumi.

You are in 99+% environment. You will not find the answer within UiTM.

Dreamer

the fact that is unfair that non bumi's can't get in....lack of competitiveness....yada yada the usual.....heard that before.....

since so much people (including u) believe that UiTM should not be considered as a 'descent' uni....why should the others even bother then....



This post has been edited by yana89: Feb 7 2010, 11:02 AM

yana89,

<<the fact that is unfair that non bumi's can't get in....lack of competitiveness....yada yada the usual.....heard that before.....>>

Why should you care about that?? Obviously, you don't.

The MORE IMPORTANT question is how does THIS affects YOU?? But, you have NO PROBLEM.

In the end, best of luck to you.....

Dreamer

yes, it's the system........but like acknowledged by many, the very people whom the system is supposed to help will suffer and be disadvantaged the most..........

welcome to the REAL world........for the rest of your life, people around will always wonder, and ask in their hearts quietly, if you get where you are on real merit, or because you belong to a 'special' group.........

if i were in this position, i will do one or more of the followings.......

1. I will be honest and acknowledge i may NOT be as good as i seem to be........if i have say, gone to stpm, i will likely have got cgpa 3.5 and NOT got any place to do medicine in a open merit based selection system........

2. I will acknowledge this is a warped policy, and is morally wrong......

3. I will however, accept that this is beyond my control, and will accept the place, accept the special privilege and opportunity given to me, and is likely NOT because i really deserve it...........maybe i do, but i will never really know..........

4. I will acknowledge it is NOT a right like some would like to think......but a privilege........

5. And finally, I will certainly nor blow any trumpets about my ability and the educational establishment i am in, as in the REAL world neither may come up to scratch........

but i am not, so it's up to your own personal honesty........or you want to be syiok sendiri......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Feb 7 2010, 01:37 PM

seem like everyone can predict where ths thread will head to... cat fight at the end..

cheers up guys.. as mentioned previously ths thread created to share info bout UiTM, not a place to express unsatisfied feeling, pointing finger at other, scream out loud at e soo called 'apartheid' system ...

grown up everyone, everybody knows whats wrong, what's rite.. we as bumis and malays accept the privilege given to us, hopefully other races will accept and respect. no point to dig reason by reason

but nevertheless.. it really up to individual, even u get 3.9CGPA without good work skills and maturity, u ain't success... yes, cert did help tho but in real competitive world u just have to stand up for urself.



This post has been edited by LuviT: Feb 7 2010, 03:30 PM

add me to the list
current mechanical engineering student
shah alam campus

as for the fight..i'm not interested to take part in
just the same blah3 that i heard before

u know what's funny?
there are total 5 ipta's in my UPU selections
and i bet if i enter any of those 4(with the same pointer),you wont said the same sh1t to me that u throw at all UiTM students.

i have lots of friend with CGPA 4.0 from matric studying account here
and i know u wont flame them as much as my other friend with lower pointer at UM,same course

FiReGunZ1499,

<<u know what's funny?
there are total 5 ipta's in my UPU selections
and i bet if i enter any of those 4(with the same pointer),you wont said the same sh1t to me that u throw at all UiTM students.>>

So, the BOTTOM LINE is you KNOWINGLY enter a 99+% environment so that you CAN isolate yourself away from the rest of Malaysian society.

You deserve the sh1t that is being thrown to you. The FUNNY part is you are CLUELESS as to why this is BAD for you.

This is YOUR LIFE and YOUR CHOICE. So, you have to bear with the consequences. Do not blame it to the system.

Dreamer

My dearest Mr dreamer101...

with posts more than 8,000 we do admit u're very smart people.. joined since 2003 make u super duper senior than us. But from bottom of my heart.. pls sir, do not give harsh comments or post something that might bring sensitivity to other... hope u're kind enough to give us a little space here....

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change. God give courage to change the things I can and wisdom to know the difference.

courage is needed.........

LuviT,

<< God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change. God give courage to change the things I can and wisdom to know the difference.>>

1) If a person KNOWINGLY CHOOSE to enter a 99+% environment when they have a chance to go some where else. That person no longer has the RIGHT to blame the system. It was their CHOICE. They CHOOSE it.

2) If YOU enter UiTM because you have NO PLACE else to go, then, at least you can be excused.

So, are you (1) or (2)?? It is as SIMPLE as that.

Dreamer

Dont want to add fire or anything but I just want to state a point here.

It all boils down to each individual.

To yana: You worked hard to achieve your result am I right? Are you happy that you got your desired result for the effort you put in? IF yes that why should you care what others think, you know yourself that you're good. As for doing med-simple be good at what you do(not everyone can study med you know-no privilege and also it is not easy). Tell you something in life, if you have any advantage seize it no matter what people say or they will be the ones to take it from you.

To Luvit: we need more cooled-minded people like you around, especially at these times.

To limeuu: why didn't you take STPM/matricks and apply to go in medicine, did you try? you said you wont get in before you even try, so whose fault isit? goverment?malays?self-perhaps?

To dreamer:1) If a person KNOWINGLY CHOOSE to enter a 99+% environment when they have a chance to go some where else. That person no longer has the RIGHT to blame the system. It was their CHOICE. They CHOOSE it.

so what if they choose it , its their decision and they have to take responsibility for their decisions. Does it prove that most of them will be jobless? why are you victimizing people for their choices?

to whom it may concern: although you might think that it is a special right, let me ask you just how long do you think this special right of yours will help you? 10/20 maybe 30 years. After petronas no more fuel supply what is going to happen?UiTM gets the biggest budget from all uni(sorry cant find trustable sources atm)-3.2bil as of 2009( national budget mostly supplied by royalties paid out by petronas). Trust me it is now time for Uitm student change mindset and learn to interact with the outside or not the people who are most lost out in the end are the bumi's themselves. Prove you guys are always insecure and current events are prove of it.
Change for the better even if it means getting out of your comfort zone. As for this thread good luck and nice initiative.

*pls view all criticism positively and not intended to hurt anyone's feelings*

you obviously either misread or misunderstood what i wrote..........go read it again carefully........

Hye my deary mr dreamer101,

my smart answer is no 3) I rather not to answer it..
knowingly both answers listed have meaning and we are mature enough to know it...

Sorry mate the keyword I tried to point out was trying. Whether they special or not wouldn't hurt for people to try.
But however based on your post you sound bitter perhaps experience?Also dont make people feel bad thats morally wrong also.

This post has been edited by BillySteel: Feb 8 2010, 01:55 AM

follow the thread carefully.......i was referring to yana89's position..........

i said 'if i were in this position'.....i hope your english is good enough to understand what this means............

hi, izzizahari here

medicine, selayang campus.

and please let this tread alive, at least we can help those who really wanted to join UiTM to further their studies.

we, UiTM student, are proud of UiTM, and we will forever serve our country.

and please, no blame game here, let them say what they want to say.
we hear them and improve, not retaliate

Dearest all... u're invited to join this group

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2769...4&ref=nf&v=info

may we able to break the record asap... tq guys

This post has been edited by LuviT: Feb 13 2010, 05:13 PM

Hi all!
i'm final year med student
friends of izzi, proud to be Uitm students, like others who always love their respectives uni.

hoping to make friends here..
peace!