Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Stock Market V49, MARKET REBORN LIKE A TIGER ROAR !!!

views
     
jasontoh
post Feb 9 2010, 11:35 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 9 2010, 11:15 PM)
I hope you are right, since no pre-CNY rally, then rebound in March.
But so many times I have gone through that post-CNY, stocks drop plentiful!!! sweat.gif
*
Really? drool.gif drool.gif
That time got ang pow money already brows.gif
jasontoh
post Feb 9 2010, 11:49 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(duckaton @ Feb 9 2010, 11:38 PM)
Buy low sell high IS God
doh.gif  how many times have I said that.
(sidenote: LYN fellas are quite a bunch of sensi pricks)

Now this is not arguing, I am just asking you to ponder the below

Quote: But I know when panic, they are the one selling at discount  nod.gif

Let me rephrase that,
when the market drops alot, they sell. (not panic)

This to my opinion is only natural

Scenario 1
1) when they come back from market or after dropping the kids to school.
they see market drop so much, they sell at whatever price their remisier tells them when they call.
2) they sell bcos they have bought it in april when they see the market go up alot everyday.
3) They make profit, not loss.
4) They dont monitor the market everyday so they dont know they selling at a discount.
5) They go back to market and fetch their children home smiling.

Scenario 2
1) Some just started working, saved couple of tens thousands, look to invest.
2) Market good, buy, buy, buy
3) when market turn bad, buy buy buy
4) market turn worse, panic sell
5) they monitor the market everyday and yet they sell to preserve their capital.
6) they deserves it.
*
Buy low sell high - I don't mean you. I mean most people thinking they can REALLY TIME the market and buy at the bottom and sell at the peak. I know you did not manage to sell at the PEAK, so logically it is not you. Just that you practice that concept.

Your scenario 1 only work for those who manage to buy at the lowest aka March 09, then if they sell anytime, they will earn, just a matter of peanuts or abalone. Your scenario 2 not really happening theoretically else, we will not see drop in trading volume.


jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 12:03 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(duckaton @ Feb 10 2010, 12:01 AM)
Ah, this you have misunderstood.
No wonder I got phucked up so often about buy low sell high.
I didnt know LYN got a new meaning to this.

my bad.

my meaning,
Buy low sell high, means sell at a higher price that what you bought.
NOT buy lowest, sell peak.

Quote:
Your scenario 1 only work for those who manage to buy at the lowest aka March 09, then if they sell anytime, they will earn, just a matter of peanuts or abalone.

scenario 1 people has more stocks in the freezer that you will ever imagine.
some from pre iraq war, some from 9/11, some from their grandpa's heritance.
to them, market up, buy, market down sell.
why i know? all my uncles and aunties, frens fathers mothers all doing this. so a small market survey.

Quote:
Your scenario 2 not really happening theoretically else, we will not see drop in trading volume.
panlai rclxms.gif  that is why we say high volume down is not good.
and the market now is doing just that.
if high volume down everyday, pack luggage, run away odi
*
Of course have to sell at higher price, else how you earn? People talk buy low sell high is usually mean, buy lowest sell, peak....but truthfully, how many of us really manage to hit the jackpot? Maybe I misunderstood your meaning.

Yeah...market is doing that. Well, I'm also sideline at the moment, waiting for the right time to enter.


Added on February 10, 2010, 12:07 am
QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 9 2010, 11:58 PM)
My friend, whos' reading this but doesn't have an a/c here, asks me to tell u that:

It's possible to buy low and sell high, he has done it several times, just not at the absolute bootom or peak.

Post-March rally is a special case cause Obama (may his soul burn in hell)  flooded the market with stimulus money.
*
My fren, buy low sell high is usually an expression by a LOT of ppl who mean buy lowest sell highest. Else it would be the same as buy high sell higher. Besides, it is common sense that we need to sell higher than our buy price to earn money. Else why you play stocks for? Do charity donating to KLCI?


Added on February 10, 2010, 12:13 amFor those hoping for DJ to rebound, now DJ is going downwards

This post has been edited by jasontoh: Feb 10 2010, 12:13 AM
jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 12:18 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(duckaton @ Feb 10 2010, 12:14 AM)
There you go,

Buy low sell high meaning buy lowest, sell peak
which is technically impossible is only used in LYN!!
period.

It may be a common sense
but that is the ultimate goal everyone tries to achieve
yet many buy high sell low. not bcos they choose to, obviously.

Quote: Else why you play stocks for? Do charity donating to KLCI?
only sounds like why go casino? of cos wanna win lar.
but yet people lose.
*
Many buy high sell low because of greed and treat investing = gambling. So, serves them right.
Investing requires knowledge while casino = 33% win chances. That is why people lose in casino.
jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 12:23 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(Veda @ Feb 10 2010, 12:16 AM)
tongue.gif

It's buy low sell high. Not buy lowest, sell highest

If the bottom for Stock X is $0.50 and the peak is $2.13. A person who bought at $0.80 (when there's a big margin of safety) and sold at $1.60 when valuations are looking kinda sretched will still make handsome profit, no? And it's still buy low, sell high, no?
*
Yup. In English, it is buy low sell high. But most people treat it as buy lowest, sell peak, because in one trading it is always buy low and sell at higher than your buy price. That's why you will get a lot of question, is it good time to buy now? Has the market bottom etc..... Why people ask? Because if buy low sell high is their concept, when they buy X at RM0.80, and it drops to RM0.50 and then surge to RM1.60, it is still earning money - but they will complain, should have got it at RM0.50, and if highest is RM2.13, should have sell it later at 2.13


jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 12:31 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(duckaton @ Feb 10 2010, 12:28 AM)
Not most people lar.
Only people in LYN. doh.gif

dont say it outside, you will be laughed at. dont believe, try.
bcos LYN buy low sell high is technically impossible.
*
Most people. I'm not sure how the ppl in LYN because I don't represent them. Just that I come across a lot of these people mean buy low sell high = buy bottom, sell peak. You will be laughed at if you say buy low sell high is your definition and people will ask you, you have common sense ka

This post has been edited by jasontoh: Feb 10 2010, 12:32 AM
jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 12:37 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(duckaton @ Feb 10 2010, 12:34 AM)
there is no such thing as buy lowest sell peak.

come to my trading counter and as much as whisper that,
people will throw stones at you. biggrin.gif
*
Got la....that's why I say people think that they are God ma tongue.gif


Added on February 10, 2010, 12:41 am
QUOTE(duckaton @ Feb 10 2010, 12:37 AM)
when people say buy low sell high at my place.
it means to make profit. flex.gif

if you say that at my place, people say you panlai. rclxms.gif
you laugh, they dont dare to laugh at you.
*
I don't say buy low sell high. I just say buy and sell, coz no point saying low and high, because that is the most basic knowledge of earning $$$ icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by jasontoh: Feb 10 2010, 12:41 AM
jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 10:15 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 10 2010, 10:03 AM)
CSCSteel is interesting.

the price just doesn't willing to go above 1.63 even with the 20 sens divvy proposal. could it be already priced in? since the price has soarred from 1.3x to 1.5x.

i think 1.5x is not a good price to buy. below it, yes. biggrin.gif
*
I bought it at 1.28, then sold off at 1.48, before the div announce. Should have hold till the Q announcement out, but as I'm anticipating 11c divvy previously so 20c is > what I anticipate. If now go to 1.63, after ex-date, it will go back to RM1 eventually, UNLESS economy in full fledged recovery
jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 10:17 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


More counters losing "blue" pill. Maybe today theme is CIMB
jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 10:24 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 10 2010, 10:22 AM)
something unusual about GenM. Today's rebound is quite high for its standards. hmm.gif
Its report is coming out within 2 wks, is it some sort of special divvy coming out? unsure.gif
*
RM1 special divvy? drool.gif drool.gif
jasontoh
post Feb 10 2010, 11:02 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 10 2010, 10:57 AM)
click on my nick

click on the ignore user button

done biggrin.gif

... sounds familiar, where did i see the above phrase before ya whistling.gif
*
laugh.gif
jasontoh
post Feb 14 2010, 05:20 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


Happy Chinese New Year
jasontoh
post Feb 18 2010, 04:46 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(mopster @ Feb 18 2010, 04:12 PM)
okok~ understood~  icon_rolleyes.gif  notworthy.gif

Added on

Aiyoh.. Supermx... i tot happy happy 5.50... "turn my head" and it is back to 5.60... alamak....  doh.gif
*
Good luck to those still holding glove stocks in this turmoil. Not sure how long those glove stocks can hold
jasontoh
post Feb 19 2010, 07:00 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(mopster @ Feb 19 2010, 06:56 PM)
rclxm9.gif SuperMX result out!!!!!  rclxms.gif  tongue.gif

but i got 0 share ... hahaha

i have to admit the divvy is below my expectation laugh.gif  monday more diving...

9% and 8% = 17% x 0.50 par value = 8.5cents only~~~~ T__T other counters smoother ride more divvy...
*
Expected lo. When the boss keep asking ppl to buy so that he can discard, of course sure say ang pow mari ma
jasontoh
post Feb 19 2010, 08:28 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(David_Brent @ Feb 19 2010, 08:19 PM)
So fundamerntally unethical of Stan to 'trail' the news that the date would be 22nd and then show he can't be trusted by releasing early...... hmm.gif

Makes him look a prat IMHO...
*
If he did not do that, who is going to buy from him today?
jasontoh
post Feb 19 2010, 08:42 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(David_Brent @ Feb 19 2010, 08:34 PM)
Of course, there is no difference in announcing after close of business on Friday or before opening on the 22nd I just think that Stan has sacrificed any credibility he may have had with his shareholders and that no one in their right mind will ever believe anything he says ever again....

Hope he thinks it was worth it...... wink.gif
*
The moment he keep posting in his FB and telling others to buy Supermx even when the price was >rm6, I sense something is wrong. Then the price move from >6 to now
jasontoh
post Feb 22 2010, 10:50 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 22 2010, 10:15 AM)
Dreaming....

The fact is, when analysts come out with such high numbers, usually its time to sell.
*
Kinda agree with your statement thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
jasontoh
post Feb 22 2010, 02:13 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Feb 22 2010, 11:40 AM)
As of now? Keep cash
*
I'm keeping cash, but cash alone is not productive at all.
jasontoh
post Feb 22 2010, 08:33 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(mopster @ Feb 22 2010, 08:18 PM)
Dow Jones Economic Calendar States 26th Feb, Friday... but from my exp DJ News is not accurate smile.gif

Interesting reports today:

TM -> Proposed 13c Less Tax divvy...  rclxms.gif
MAS -> Green report card..
Maybulk -> 15c divvy
Mahsing -> Proposed Bonus Issue
Coastal -> good result but no divvy..
Compugt -> kaboom.... -94M
---
More to come this week:
Genting Group, YTL Group, Axiata, Maxis, KLK, BKawan, CIMB,.. etc  icon_rolleyes.gif
*
Looks like TM, Mahsing and UAC divvy is coming soon rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
TM giving higher than what I expect, Mahsing same, surprisingly UAC also giving.
jasontoh
post Feb 22 2010, 10:15 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,425 posts

Joined: Nov 2005


QUOTE(GregPG01 @ Feb 22 2010, 09:23 PM)
Errr.why Mahsing got dividend this time ar? Usually in June one ma.
*
Maybe special one drool.gif drool.gif

3 Pages < 1 2 3 >Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0464sec    0.35    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 3rd December 2025 - 05:59 AM