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TSeric138
post Feb 4 2010, 11:38 AM, updated 16y ago

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Origin Class : Mammalia
Subclass : Marsupialia
Order : Diprotodontia
Suborder : Phalangerida
Superfamily : Petauroidea
Family : Petauridae

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A ) Introduction :-


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Sugar gliders are little marsupials that have been taken as exotic pets in many countries. These creatures are different from normal pet rodents like hamsters, mice and rats. They have character, mood swings, emotional bonds and the sweetest nature for a pet that comes in such a small package. Commonly mistaken as flying squirrels, sugar gliders can be both easy and hard to take care. Their general care is much more complicated than pet rodents and they require a lot of affection and attention from its owners. Look at it this way, gliders are like 3 year old kids. They act cute and can annoy us sometimes while at the same time need our total attention and bond.

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What is a sugar glider ?
A sugar glider is a small marsupial possum from Australia, and parts of Indonesia and New Guinea. They are not related to flying squirrels, and are considered exotic animals in the United States. Sugar Gliders are nocturnal, meaning they are active during the night, and asleep during the day.


Where did they get that name ?
Their name comes from their two obvious characteristics. Sugar or Honey because of their preference of sweet things, and Gliders for their gliding membrane called a patagium.


What does a sugar glider look like ?
An adult sugar glider head and body measure about 5 to 6 inches in length with a tail equal in length to aid in balance and gliding. An adult male in proper body condition weighs about 100g to 130g, where as an adult female will be around 90g.

The tail is fluffy, often curls on the end and usually is longer than the body length.

Sugar gliders have hairless ears that can be moved independently in order to pick up the smallest sounds.

A "wild type" or "standard" color sugar glider is gray or brownish in color with a long black stripe that runs from its’ nose to the end of the back. The underside of a sugar glider is a cream or white color. The last inch or so of the tail is black or brown.

They have large protruding eyes, like most nocturnal animals, to allow for a wider field of vision.

A sugar glider has five digits on each forefoot, with sharp claws to help grip branches. The hind feet also have 5 digits, and include a partially fused together 2nd and 3rd digit used for a grooming comb. There is also an enlarged, clawless, opposable big toe.

The sugar glider has a patagium, a furred membrane of skin that connects to the wrists and ankles on each side of the glider, used for gliding.

Sugar glider joeys are normally a nice slivery grey but as they age, they will shed away this soft joey coat and replace with their true colours. Some glider colours that we have here are the normal grays and a few shades of browns. Some would turn brown if they constantly stay in coconuts because of staining to the fur. You should not worry about the colours, for each sugar glider is unique in its own little way.

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post Feb 4 2010, 11:41 AM

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B ) Sugar Glider as Pets

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a ) Right Pet for You ?

Sugar Gliders are great animals, and can be a wonderful addition to your family. However, please consider what is best for the animal and yourself, as there are many PRO and CON for being a sugar glider owner. Too many times do people rush into buying these animals before looking at all factors, leaving many sugar gliders abandoned, homeless, sick, and even dead.

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Before you decide if a Sugar Glider is right for you,
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b ) Warning

Some night markets sell sugar gliders. Please be careful! People that choose to sell at these places usually are looking to "make a sale" and will pray upon impulse buyers. These "sellers" often come across as very knowledge, charismatic, and nice. Do your research extensively before choosing a place to buy your new pet. If they can't wait for you to do a bit of research, then either they have something to hide and/or they won't be there to help you along the way if you have any questions after your new baby comes home. The sugar glider community is relatively small. Ask for references, make use of online sugar glider communities, or even ask other sugar glider breeders. Make an informed decision when buying a sugar glider.

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These are photos taken at a PETSTORE, a very well known. Haih.
Notice the gliders are piled up to keep themselves warm. The bowl is empty, not a sign of a drop of water. The bedding is harmful, not to be used at all for gliders. And apple skins are to be the one found in the Exo Terra feeder. Feeding them with apples only? OMG. Gliders dont have any sleeping quarters too. SIGH.


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Avoid IMPULSIVE BUYING without Researching At First !WHY ? Consider these :-

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As responsible sugar glider owners/lovers, we must do our best to educate potential owners. Most importantly, don't buy a sugar glider to "save" or "rescue" it. It only gives them room for more! Also, understand that many flea market/trade show vendors may only be guilty of one or two points listed above, others may be much worse.

The THUMB OF RULES is : A good n responsible breeder will be happy n wiling to show their buyer the breeding room n how they keep their glider. They make no attempt to hide anything from their buyer.

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c ) Choosing

We would recommend getting a sugar glider from a local knowledgeable breeder. This way, you can have someone locally that can help you with any questions you may have with you new glider, after it comes home. Also, you will have a chance to visit the place your glider is being born and raised, making sure it is clean and a safe place. You may also be able to find sugar gliders in a local pet store, but please, make sure the pet store is knowledgeable in sugar gliders. There are many pet stores that sell sugar gliders, but have very little knowledge in care or diet. Never try to save a sugar glider from a pet store or irresponsible breeder by buying the animal, as this will only encourage them.

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Always ask questions when choosing a place to get your glider such as :-

How long have they been in business?

Is there a guarantee of health?

Do they offer "after-sale" support?

Do they have any references?

You can expect a lot of questions being asked to you also. As a good breeder, they will make sure there sugar gliders are going to a good home. Too many people rush into getting these wonderful animals without considering what is best for the sugar glider or themselves, leaving many sugar gliders homeless as soon as the novelty wears off.

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i ) Choosing your sugar glider :

Once you decide on where to get your glider, the time has come to pick your new glider. I would recommend getting a baby glider approximately 8-10 weeks out of pouch. Never purchase a sugar glider younger than 8 weeks of age. Always choose a glider that is bright eyed and bushy tailed, as this would mean that the glider is fully weaned, and ready to live on it's own. Make sure the young glider is eating properly, and isn't suckling on the mother any longer. You want a glider that is active, alert, and curious in nature. Be sure that the stools (poop) of the sugar glider is formed properly, and looks similar to moist mouse droppings. Ask to handle the glider, it shouldn't act afraid to be handled, and run at the first chance it gets. Every sugar glider is different. Some gliders may be shy around strangers. In cases such as these watch the breeder/owner handle the glider. If the glider appears afraid or tries to escape from the breeder/owner, ask questions. Try to keep in mind that even gliders can have a bad day, but be aware of the sugar gliders temperament.

ii ) Where to take caution when getting your sugar glider :

Pet Stores
There may be a FEW exceptions to this rule, however when possible avoid purchasing sugar gliders from petstores. Sugar gliders are nocturnal animals requiring daily human interaction. Most pet stores are closed during the times the sugar glider would be most active and wanting attention. Pet stores are loud, and can be quite busy with many different sounds and smells causing stress to the sugar gliders in their care. Most pet store employees know little about these wonderful creatures, their care, and their diet. A lot of pet stores will look to "simplify" a gliders diet, in turn compromising a gliders health, as well as passing on inaccurate information to new sugar gliders owners. Should you find a pet store you believe is safe, be sure to ask questions. Test them on their knowledge, and then decide.

Glider Mills
These are sad places where sugar gliders are kept in the poorest conditions. Little is thought of their care, health, or wellbeing. Animals coming from these places can be sick, and carry several different illnesses.

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d ) One or Two ?

Sugar gliders are very social animals. It is usually recommended that sugar gliders are kept in pairs. Gliders that are lonely can over groom, or even self mutilate. Please understand that loneliness is NOT the only possible cause of a sugar glider that is self mutilating. If you ever experience a sugar glider self mutilating, get to a knowledgeable vet ASAP. Extremely lonely and depressed sugar gliders have also been known to stop eating and basically "loose the will to live". Although these are extreme cases, it is something a responsible sugar glider owner must take into consideration and be prepared for.

Some sugar gliders tend to be "ok" when they are alone, but are prone to obesity and boredom. While you are a great "friend" and "playmate" for your sugar glider, you can't play, wrestle, and communicate like another sugar glider would. People are not usually nocturnal like sugar gliders. They will need someone to play and interact with in the wee hours of the morning, and a warm body to cuddle up to while they are asleep in their cage. From the lack of playing and stimulation that another sugar glider can provide, some sugar gliders may over eat and become obese. Of course there have been a select few cases where a sugar glider really was just fine being the only glider, but that is truly rare. Any sugar glider that is housed alone needs to be watched carefully to ensure the animals health and happiness remain intact. We do not recommend sugar gliders to be housed alone long term.

However, for first-timer to handle two unbonded sugar gliders is a bit tough and messy. We encourage newbie to get one FIRST, cope up with the first sugar glider's behavior, sounds, and bonded with it then proceed to the second one.
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e ) Boy or Girl ?

What sex makes a better pet ?

Overall there are no relation to sex and temperament in sugar gliders. Males and females can be equally calm, loving, and bonded. Just like people, each sugar glider has a different personality. It is recommended when looking for a pet, to meet them in person before adoption. This will ensure that the sugar glider’s personality fits yours.

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i ) Boy

Tell me a little about the males :
Males have scent glands located on their neck, chest, anus, and forehead, used to mark their territory. The smell is faint and hardly noticeable when the glider is in a clean habitat, on a good diet, and in good health. Intact adult males can be identified by the presence of a bald spot, on it's forehead, and the chest gland can also be seen. Males neutered before puberty, do not develop the scent glands responsible for the bald spots. Adult males will loose their bald spots upon neutering, as their scent glands will become inactive. The male sugar glider has a bifurcated penis which means it is divided in two. The penis is thin, long, and pink. Often times new owners will mistake their penis for a worm, or intestine. Males can be identified by the presence of a scrotum that has the appearance of a wart where you would expect a belly button to be. Males will reach sexual mature between 4 to 12 months of age depending on genetics, diet, and care. The development of the bald spots caused by active scent glands is a sign the male has reached sexual maturity.
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ii ) Girl

Tell me a little about the females :
Females can be identified by the pouch opening on her abdomen. The pouch opening is viewed as a vertical slit where you would expect to see a belly button. Females will mature between 6 to 18 months of age, depending on her conditions, genetics, and diet. The younger the female, the higher risk of neglected babies. Female sugar gliders have 2 separate vaginae and cervixes and a divided uterus Female sugar gliders cycle about once every 29 days. Pregnancy for a female lasts between 15-17 days. Upon giving birth, the babies move up into the pouch where they will remain the next 60-70 days. Females will usually breed until they are between 5-8 years of age. Some may breed longer. Females normally have 1 to 2 babies at a time. It is possible for a female to have up to 4 joeys in the pouch at a time. A female’s milk changes often during the developmental stages of the baby in the pouch. Female sugar gliders are able to maintain babies of different developmental stages. Each milk gland works individually and is able to change and support each baby at their stage of development.

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f ) What to Expect ?

On the visit, what to expect ?

So you have decided that a sugar glider may be the right pet for you. Breeders love to meet potential owners and their families. Be prepared to stay a while, as a normal visit can last 2 hours or more. Make a list of any questions that you have. While you are there, you can meet and handle some of the gliders, as well as learn what it takes to be a good glider parent. Most people come to knowing little about these wonderful animals however they leave there with a great amount of knowledge to decide if this is the right pet for them. We don’t think you should rush your in making your decision, and encourage you to think everything over.

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Before your new addition comes home, what to expect ?

You have done your research, and decided that a sugar glider is the right pet for you. Now, you will need to do a little shopping. Be sure that you have everything you need before your little ones come home, this will make the home coming day run a lot smoother and less stressful for everyone.

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SHOPPING LIST :-

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post Feb 4 2010, 11:42 AM

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C ) Care

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Before Getting Your Glider(s) HOME, please consider these :-

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a ) Housing

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i ) Size [ Small, Medium, DIY ]
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ii ) Accessories [ Sleeping Pouch ]
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iii ) Feeder [ Metal Bowl, Plate ]
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iv ) Waterer [ Living World, Critter Canteen ]


v ) Toys [ Wheel, Bird Toy, DIY Stuff ]
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vi ) Bedding [ Breeder Celect, Newspaper ]


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b ) Bonding

Bonding with your sugar glider can be a rough road, although once you get there, it is worth the trip. Gliders are very social animals, and bond fairly easy. The more time you spend with your glider, the stronger your bond will be.

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There are a few tips that can help make this process easier on you and your new sugar glider :-

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i ) How to Start ? [ Time, Love, Patience, Consistency ]

ii ) Aid [ Bonding Pouch, Scent Patch, Tent Time ]

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c ) Introducing

Introducing sugar gliders can be extremely simple in some cases, but it can also be a long, slow, and stressful process.

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There are a few important things to consider when introducing new sugar gliders :-

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How to introduce sugar gliders :-


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Tips for newly introduced sugar gliders :-

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i ) Cage [ side by side ]


ii ) Pouch [ through mesh ]


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d ) Nail Trimming

The nails of your glider are made to cling to branches, climb trees, leaping and griping. Their little nails left untrimmed can cause little punctures up and down your skin while you are letting them play on you. This in turn could allow bacteria into your skin, which can result in a condition known as dermatitis. Trimming the nails of your glider is important not only to you, but as a safety precaution to them as well. It may take 2 people to trim your gliders nails until you get the hang of it.

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You will need :-

i ) A towel / sleeping pouch

ii ) Nail Clippers

iii ) Another helping hand if available

iv ) Corn Starch, Nitrate Stick, or Blood Stopper

v ) Confidence


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It is best to trim your gliders nails in the morning, when they are tired. Some gliders will allow you to trim their nails quite easily as they become used to the process. Use the towel to hold the glider, be careful not to hold it too tightly. If needed, cover your glider's head to reduce stress. Take the nail clippers and clip off the very end of each nail. Be careful not to cut too much of the nail. It will bleed if you cut off too much. Should bleeding occur, use cornstarch, nitrate sticks or blood stopper to help clot the blood and stop the bleeding.

There are also other things you can do to help keep your glider's nails down to size. Such as using a product from called the Nail-O-Matic. These products are both very helpful, however the Emery Track is adjustable to fit in many different wheel styles, and in my experience works faster, and holds up longer.

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post Feb 4 2010, 11:44 AM

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D ) Diet & Nutrition


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There are many different diets available for your sugar glider, each diet has it's ups and downs. It really is controversial as to what the best diet is for a sugar glider in captivity.

Whether it is HPW Diet, BML Diet, PML Diet or others recognized diet, it's really up to you. The choice is yours to make.

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Although any diet you choose, keep the following in mind :-

• A healthy diet is VERY important, serious health conditions will arise if your glider is not feed properly.

• Keep a positive calcium to phosphorous ratio, use calcium supplements that are non-phosphorous.
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• A sugar gliders diet should consist of a protein source, vitamins, fruits and vegetables.

• Use vitamin supplements when necessary, but don't over do it, too many vitamins can be just as harmful as not enough.

• Start out by feeding about 3-4 tablespoons of food per night, per glider. If they eat it all the first night add a little more the next night until they leave only a little bit. Remember a sugar gliders stomach is about the same size of your thumbnail, and only holds less than a tablespoon of food/water.

• Often times breeders will offer pregnant or lactating mothers extra protein. Before doing this, be sure it fits into your current diet plan.

• Always follow the directions of your chosen diet.

• Fresh water and a high quality staple food must be available at all times.

• Feed you glider a varied diet within your chosen diet plan. This will prevent food boredom, and ensures a balanced diet. Example, feed various fruits, juices, vegetables, etc.

• Cat food or pellet base diets are not recommended. Sugar gliders are sap suckers, by feeding large amounts of hard food can lead to an infection in the jaw known as “lumpy jaw”.

• Do not mix diets. Each diet is balanced with the right amount of vitamins and minerals. Mixing diets can affect these balances resulting in either too much, or not enough of something.

• Give the diet a chance before deciding your gliders don't like it. Sugar Gliders can be like 2 year olds, and have similar eating patterns. One week they will go without touching any fruit, the next that is all they will eat.

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E ) Health & Hazard
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a ) Check Up

You need to bring your sugar gliders for a health check up, when you first took it from your breeder or petstore. Make sure your sugar gliders has a clean bill of health, so as to avoid transmiting unknown diseases to your current pets or existing sugar gliders.

In addition, you are encouraged to bring your sugar glider for regular medical check up every 4-6months. Sugar gliders who consume live insects may need to deworm regularly in order to maintain their tip top health condition.

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b ) Disease & Disorder

Sugar gliders are excellent in hiding their illness, so make sure you're always alert about your gliders when they are sick. If your pet shows signs of illness, do not give it any medications unless prescribed by your veterinarian. Remember that with the appearance of any clinical signs, a qualified veterinarian should be allowed to make a definitive diagnosis. Identifying and treating diseases in their early stages is the key to successful treatment and cure. Like many other exotic species that become ill, sick sugar gliders are very fragile, and require prompt veterinary attention.

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Sick Glider

Upon request, below are one of the incident that happened on a sugar glider of forum member here. This is the first and rare disease encountered by sugar glider owner, nothing much can be done for treatment but it is good to pick up the information.

'Dr Jenny confirmed that Nutmeg died from organ failure, most likely the heart failure was the main cause because her heart overworked and her lungs cannot breath'

'The body naturally has a back-up system and usually if the body detects that an organ is failing, it will regenerate to overcome the problem but once the organ is deteriorating badly, the body cannot catch up and thus leads to organ disease and failure.'

'Sugar gliders are too small to detect such things. For bigger animals, a simple blood test and ultrasound can detect it. But for a blood test, a minimum of 3ml is required. 3ml of blood can cause death to a sugar glider due to blood loss.'

'According to Dr Jenny, a special ultrasound machine for small animals can only help and it is not available in Malaysia and many parts of the world. It’s a rare machine.'

'We can never know when organ failure can happen to a glider or anything smaller than a large rabbit. We can only detect it once it is too late.'

Symptoms:
Panting, shortness of breath
Lack of appetite
Sleeping on her back or hanging her front body to sleep upright (because of the water in lungs, she tried to take the pressure of the water off her chest)
Pale nose and skin
Inactive

'It is sad that since the sugar glider is so small, there is no treatment for it.'


Full Article:
http://imjustnotgoodwithwords.blogspot.com...-of-nutmeg.html
http://imjustnotgoodwithwords.blogspot.com...ry-of-joey.html

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Obesity :-
- Gliders that are obese or overweight generally are inactive and very round in body size.
Treatment : A bigger living environment with plenty of toys to stimulate foraging activity and a wheel.

Trembling or Shakiness :-
- Shaking or shivering right after waking up from sleep is normal for a glider. But if it continues after a few moments, especially the back legs and the glider has weak limbs, it could mean a calcium deficiency problem.
Treatment : Calcium supplement has to be given if it is the early stages. The diet has to be changed. Best to visit a vet for advice and treatment.

Hair Loss :-
- If hair loss is at the center of a male's head, then it is normal as that is the male's scent gland. If hair loss is at other body parts, be it in hairless spots or thinning of hair, it could mean mites or fungul infection or malnutrition.
Treatment : Seek a vet for treatment.

Lack of Appetite :-
- A drop in appetite or eating very little could mean a few things. Stress can be one of them and this is normally seen with gliders in new homes. Another would be internal parasites, as worms and microorganism in the gut can cause a drop in appetite. Another would be the teeth or jaw. Check the teeth for any breakage and make sure there is no swelling to the gums.
Treatment : If it is from new surroundings, it is normal. If appetite is small, visit a vet and get your glider dewormed. If teeth has problems, visit a vet for treatment.

Diarrhea :-
- Watery stool. If the stool or poo is moist like tooth paste, then it is normal but if the poo is wet and has no shape, it is diarrhea. It can be caused by new food, infected or spoiled food, or parasites.
Treatment : Home treatment would be to provide Glucose supplement and Gatorade or a non-carbonated isotonic drink diluted with water and increase in food high in fiber. A visit to the vet is a must as diarrhea is fatal, especially to joeys.

Dehydration :-
- A dehydrated glider will have dull looking eyes, very stiff skin. Check your glider's hydration by pinching the skin behind the neck. If it retracts in a second, your glider is safe but if the skin fold is still there after 1 second, then your glider is dehydrated and would need liquids fast.
Treatment : Feed water with glucose mixed with Gatorade or a non-carbonated isotonic drink. 1 water to 1 glucose mixture ratio.

Constipation :-
- A glider would have constipation if it doesn't take enough fruits and water. The usual signs are seen when a glider hisses when it is defecating or pooing.
Treatment : A teaspoon of pure apple juice twice a day would cure this.

Urinary Tract Infection :-
- This means difficulty in peeing. These may include bladder infections, urinary blockages, andkidney disease. These problems may be more common in gliders on very high-protein,high-mineral diets, such as large amounts of regular cat food. Signs may include bloody urine, straining to urinate or dribbling urine, lethargy, decreased appetite, increased thirst or urine output, protruding and/or discolored penis, and weight loss.
Treatment : Need antibiotics from vet.

Hissing during Urinating :-- It is an early sign of difficulty in peeing.
Treatment : Quickly get hold of pure cranberry juice and feed a teaspoon of it twice a day to your glider.

[B]Blindness :-[/B]
- Known as partial blindness in gliders, it is actually the cause from a high in fat diet. Gliders taking mainly mealworms or a lot of sunflower seeds in their diet would develop a layer on the eye that may look like your glider turned blind.
Treatment : Cut out on fatty food, change the diet.

Hind Leg Paralysis :-
- Weakness of the back legs. Can be seen when a glider has problems climbing, walking, excessively having trembling legs and may not be active anymore.
Treatment : This is due to a bad diet that lacks in calcium. Seek vet for treatment and change the diet. Include calcium supplements.


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d ) Glider Proofing

When letting your sugar gliders out to play, it is always a good idea to "glider-proof" the room first. Removing any dangerous situations that the sugar glider could get into can save it's life.

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post Feb 4 2010, 11:46 AM

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F ) Recommended

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a ) Vet


1) Dr Jenny

My Vet Clinic
No. 29-G, Jalan Cecawi 6/33, Seksyen 6, Kota Damansara, 47810 PJ.
Tel: 03-6142 2122

Dr Jenny can neuter male gliders safely.
The clinic can deworm and treat serious conditions for gliders.
Call before you go to make an appointment.

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2) Dr Yeoh


YEOH VETERINARY CLINIC & SURGERY
126, Jln SS 24/2, Tmn Megah, 47301 PJ, Selangor
Tel: 03-78048684

Dr Yeoh can neuter male gliders safely.
The clinic is able to treat minor things on gliders and general check up but not great for serious cases.
Call to make an appointment.

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post Feb 4 2010, 11:48 AM

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G ) Notice Board

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a ) Gathering

= Sugar Glider Gathering =

Date: 26, June 2010

Time: 1.00pm

Venue: Booth 217 & 218, Hall 2, Pets World Exchibition, Midvalley

Confirmed Guests: Eric, Babydugong, Jtl, Kelvin, Emino, Shakeera, Bonai, Ninang, Yueyi, Tednet, Usry, Lyaz_zest, Geo, Bremboy84

Remark: More updates, please visit Bugsy FB Page

Please PM or leave me a msg so I could update the list.

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post Feb 4 2010, 11:50 AM

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LYN SUGAR GLIDER OWNERS :-

1 ) kelvin_faye :
Cairo, DOA : 01/09/08
Daisha, DOA : 01/10/08


2 ) nezumitaro :
BB, OOP : 23/05/05
Kiro, OOP : 27/06/08
Oki, OOP: 21/02/09
Iko, OOP: 21/02/09


3 ) hackerzx :
Chuui, DOA : 01/08/07

4 ) SugarCoatedCandy :
Bella
Jayden
Lana

5 ) liyanaomar :
Phoebe
Joey
Naomi

6 ) Eric138 & Kaken :
Money
Micky
Belle
Sheila
Lara
, DOB: 15/06/09

7 ) muchan86 :
Dakota, DOA : 18/08/08

8 ) bardz :
Kurin de la Venga
Lilith Lazinsca
Fola
, DOB : 19/12/08, OOP : 24/02/09

9 ) pink_baby :
Minnie

10 ) babydugong & jtl :
Athena
Kit
Kat

11 ) wafiazizul :
Haru
Aki

12 ) emino :
Teddy, DOA : 01/02/08
Vicky, DOA : 06/06/08

13 ) shakeera :
Shino, DOA : 21/06/08
Sachi, DOA : 11/10/08
Shyla, DOA : 21/03/09
Acey, OOP : 06/07/09

14 ) teejay:
Gadget
QiQi
Bubba
Z
Timon
Pumba


15 ) ReBeLLioN :
Senget
Gelong
Milah
, OOP : 20/02/09
Leha, OOP : 20/02/09

16 ) mattemily_85 :
Gino
Lucas

Tiny

17 ) hanin_schum :
Dante
Danni

18 ) onezkatana :
Mac
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19 ) jitshiong :
Twinkle, DOA : 21/10/05
Dexter, OOP : +- 18/02/08
Quincy, OOP : +- 01/07
Cassie, OOP : 23/02/08
Bear, OOP : 07/07/09
Queenie, DOA : May 09

20 ) vincent09 :
Ah Pit, almost 3 years as of 24/04/09

21 ) shazman :
Rocky, DOA : 23/07/08
Rambo, DOA : 30/07/08
Mimi, DOA : 23/09/08
Momo, DOA : 28/09/08
Sunti, DOA : 10/02/09
Dara, DOA : 16/04/09
Eamon, DOB : 19/12/08, OOP : 24/02/09

22 ) sharil :
Gizmo, DOA : 22/02/07
Molly, DOA : 23/02/08

23 ) cokekies :
Sweety, DOA : 08/02/09
Candy, DOA : 04/04/09

24 ) faerieC :
Milly, DOA : 03/09/08

25 ) mselee :
Kurin de la Vega
Lilith Lazinsca
Fola Lola, DOB : 19/12/08, OOP : 24/02/09
Don Giancarlo , DOA : 19/12/08
Don Demetrio , DOA : 06/02/09
Ribbon, DOA : 02/05/2009

26 ) chika loco :
Twileena, DOA : 26/11/08
Damian, DOA : 13/12/08

27 ) mingwei86 :
Salt, DOA : 02/03/09
Pepper, DOA : 02/03/09

28 ) RyoKenzaki :
Jelly, DOA : 01/06/09

29 ) afcmh :
MOMO, OOP : 14/05/09, DOA : 10/07/09

30 ) saramelia :
Ryo, OOP : 08/03/09, DOA : 25/05/09
Rynee, OOP : 19 /06/09, DOA : 01/09/09

31 ) Yvaine :
Baby Boy, DOA : 06/09/06
Baby Girl, DOA : 01/06/07
Cici, DOB : 08/02/09

33) Violin! :
Haylie, DOA : 04/06/09
Joshie, DOA : 04/06/09

34 ) loritanah :
Lulu, DOA : 19/05/09

35) yaniena:
mulan, DOA: 26/07/2009

36) sillyash :
rufus, DOB: 29/5/2009

37) farid87 :
panda , DOA 06/08/09

38) cacarots :
Cacarot, DOA 06/08/09

39) Lis :
Venita, DOA : 25/04/09
Molly, DOA : 21/06/09

40) Jolenelarhhs :
Crislyn , DOA : 09/07/09
Criscille, DOB: 01/09/09, DOA: 01/03/10

41) afiqheafy & lalatrashh :
Sugus
Skittles , OOP 15/05/09, DOA 23/08/09

42) Brazilianze
Bibiysh Babylon, DOB : 22/04/09, OOP : 28/06/09

43) Decoy_x
Blanket, DOA: 03/09/09

44) zaifer
Corn, DOA: 08/11/08

45) maxtee
Marlyn , DOA: 09/08/09
Caspian , DOB: 25/10/09, DOA: 25/12/09

46) elite87
Chico, DOA: 23/09/09

47) furious_spidey
Regalia, OOP = 08/09/09. DOA = 05/11/09

48) Jianshen
Sugar Baby, OOP = 10/08/09, DOA = 14/10/09

49) Amyhafiza
Lola, DOA = 07/08/09

50) Kimmiki
kiki-huhu, DOA= 25/10/09

51) Echah83
Zazi , DOA= 01/12/09
Chicha, DOA= 13/05/10, OOP= 09/03/10

52) Pser1990
C.P , DOA= 13/12/09
Jojo , DOA= 13/12/09

53) Babyvey
Meeko , DOA: 28/10/09
Xiao Gui, DOA: 28/10/09

54) eekang
Gizmo, DOA: 06/12/09
Baby
Pepper
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55) Glidermama
RJ , DOA: 11/08/09
Furla, DOAl 11/12/09

56 ) darksterz
Tinkerbelle , DOA : 24/01/09
Tweedledee, OOP : 05/01/10

57) lyaz_zest
Agus Xavier, DOA: 24/01/10
Venus Exora, DOA: 31/01/10

58) jcmf
JJ, Female, DOArrival 20th oct 2008
BB, DOA: 25/10/09
Baby, OOP: 05/02/10

59) rystic
Welbi, DOA: 12/02/10

60) moe81
Molly, DOA: 26/02/10

61) Cabok
Yoka, DOA : 11/03/10
Poka , DOA : 11/03/10

62) myboo_1988
Hei Hei
Lam Lam

63) Badtzcarol
Shin, DOA: 13/05/10, DOB: 09/03/10

63) Geo
Momo, DOA: 16/05/10

64) banana_00
Girl, DOB: 17/04/10

65) bremboy
Stud, DOB: 14/08/09
Dior, DOB: 27/07/09

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i want to ask for opinion,which is better for me to buy,
Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Fruity Flavour! or Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein!?
my suggie is quite picky when it comes to food,so im juz afraid that it gonna be wasted if i bought the
wrong one.
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btw , shd i transfer my suggie 2 a small cage or use bonding pouch if i'm travelling by bus (around 3 hrs journey) ?

Thx. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(darksterz @ Feb 5 2010, 02:05 PM)
i want to ask for opinion,which is better for me to buy,
Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Fruity Flavour! or Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein!?
my suggie is quite picky when it comes to food,so im juz afraid that it gonna be wasted if i bought the
wrong one.
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For me, im choosing Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Fruity Flavour!..My sg luv it so much.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(darksterz @ Feb 5 2010, 02:05 PM)
i want to ask for opinion,which is better for me to buy,
Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Fruity Flavour! or Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Chicken Protein!?
my suggie is quite picky when it comes to food,so im juz afraid that it gonna be wasted if i bought the
wrong one.
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I heard quite a lot of good comment for fruity flavor, coz it smells so sweet~~~~

QUOTE(ylsy @ Feb 5 2010, 02:10 PM)
Gratz V15 smile.gif

btw , shd i transfer my suggie 2 a small cage or use bonding pouch if i'm travelling by bus (around 3 hrs journey) ?

Thx.  biggrin.gif
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If daytime, bonding pouch would do. I don think bus allow u to take a cage also..

QUOTE(echah83 @ Feb 5 2010, 02:17 PM)
For me, im choosing Bugsy™ Happy Glider - Fruity Flavour!..My sg luv it so much.. biggrin.gif
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Yeah~~ Luckily mine eat both~~ so can swap feeding..
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 5 2010, 02:27 PM)
I heard quite a lot of good comment for fruity flavor, coz it smells so sweet~~~~
If daytime, bonding pouch would do. I don think bus allow u to take a cage also..
Yeah~~ Luckily mine eat both~~ so can swap feeding..
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Thanks for the recommendation,i'll try those fruity flavor,
hopes my sweeties will love it. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 5 2010, 02:27 PM)
I heard quite a lot of good comment for fruity flavor, coz it smells so sweet~~~~
If daytime, bonding pouch would do. I don think bus allow u to take a cage also..
Yeah~~ Luckily mine eat both~~ so can swap feeding..
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8am bus ...consider day time ?? shd i put some fruits inside cz 3 hrs + journey ?
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Hye..

I think i want to have another SG.. Now my sg is male and the age around 4 month old.. if i buy joey 2.5 month ..its okay to pairing?..
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QUOTE(echah83 @ Feb 5 2010, 03:10 PM)
Hye..

I think i want to have another SG.. Now my sg is male and the age around 4 month old.. if i buy joey 2.5 month ..its okay to pairing?..
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not ok
1st, if u pair it with a female...that poor female will be raped when ur boy is mature enough...n she couldn't even defend herself from your boy
2nd, if u pair it with a male...if they fight..the 2.5 month male will die....

so next u will ask me what to do..
lol!

u got a few options actually...
1st, buy the 2.5 months male/female, let them grow bigger first n do proper intro...
then they'll live together happily...

2nd, buy a 4-5 months old sg to pair..with proper intro...

n fewmore options..
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QUOTE(ylsy @ Feb 5 2010, 03:05 PM)
8am bus ...consider day time ?? shd i put some fruits inside cz 3 hrs + journey ?
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then u hav to check what time ur glider goes to sleep normally. If he is sleeping already at 8am, then u can put inside pouch. 3hours is not really long la...they sleep over the day what..

U can practise at home first, take it out one day at 8am then put inside pouch..if he behaves and sleep nicely inside the pouch..then shouldnt be any prob lo..

QUOTE(echah83 @ Feb 5 2010, 03:10 PM)
Hye..

I think i want to have another SG.. Now my sg is male and the age around 4 month old.. if i buy joey 2.5 month ..its okay to pairing?..
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U plan to breed?
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Nope.. i want to neuter my SG first till get the new one.. so what age suitable for pairing with my 4 month SG?..

anyway i dont want buy the old sg.. very hard to bonding.. susah nak manja2 lol.. tongue.gif


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[quote=echah83,Feb 5 2010, 03:44 PM]
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Nope.. i want to neuter my SG first till get the new one.. so what age suitable for pairing with my 4 month SG?..

anyway i dont want buy the old sg.. very hard to bonding.. susah nak manja2 lol.. tongue.gif
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buy 1 extra cage lor. Put them beside each other. I clever or not thumbup.gif
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then u can buy the 2.5 months old joey, let them get used to each other first....do proper bonding....
then when the size is right, can let them stay together de
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juz back frm jalan pasar at pudu..lookin 4 akuarium..so sian la dat sg..the shop put 3-4 sg in 1 feet plastic aquarium..along with serbuk kayu..lol..+ bowl + 1 fruit + bottle 4 water..i feel like buyin it..but im nt confident 2 take care of them..can u guys go n set them free frm there? smile.gif
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Nope.. i want to neuter my SG first till get the new one.. so what age suitable for pairing with my 4 month SG?..

anyway i dont want buy the old sg.. very hard to bonding.. susah nak manja2 lol.. tongue.gif
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Then neuter the male first, after that get a male or female joey, then introduce to ur current male. Problem solve~~ 4month definitely can go along with 2month joey. I got belle as money's companion when she is 6months old.. then add on another Lara when money bout 10months old... now they 3 happily staying together...


QUOTE(Blurrysky @ Feb 5 2010, 04:09 PM)
juz back frm jalan pasar at pudu..lookin 4 akuarium..so sian la dat sg..the shop put 3-4 sg in 1 feet plastic aquarium..along with serbuk kayu..lol..+ bowl + 1 fruit + bottle 4 water..i feel like buyin it..but im nt confident 2 take care of them..can u guys go n set them free frm there?  smile.gif
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There are a lot alot of places selling underaged gliders, and most of them are torturing the joeys, we cant jus buy all of them home. It doesn't solve the problem, and it would create more problem because those seller would never know what is the proper way of keeping sugar glider.

And they will continue doing what they are doing now (like keeping in small tank, feed apple and etc) because their business getting better and better (because we so pity the gliders and buy from them).. Of course they don bother bout proper care of sugar glider..

What we should do is to boycott this kind of shop, and spread more correct information to people around. Increase the awareness of glider keeping, then when more ppl boycott this kind of shopp, they will startedd to realize and find out what they are doing wrong.

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@ylsy
u can put ur suggies into bonding pouch..i use train also about 3 hour journey...tat time i 7.30 take off from my place they were just going to sleep...u can put in some dry treats lik tutti fruity and some dry pellets...just for them to snack if they are hungry...remember bring your traveling water bottle..just make sure u pack everything day before coz at other place hard to get sg stuff


Added on February 5, 2010, 5:45 pmCongrats V-15...keep up the good work everyone...

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@ylsy
u can put ur suggies into bonding pouch..i use train also about 3 hour journey...tat time i 7.30 take off from my place they were just going to sleep...u can put in some dry treats lik tutti fruity and some dry pellets...just for them to snack if they are hungry...remember bring your traveling water bottle..just make sure u pack everything day before coz at other place hard to get sg stuff


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all dry stuff ? dnt hv 2 put some juicy fruits ? smile.gif
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all dry stuff ? dnt hv 2 put some juicy fruits ?  smile.gif
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if u put wet stuff will dirty the pouch as well as it's fur...so dry treats enough lor..u can pack some yogurt drops in a small container to bring along...but during the day they will normally sleep wont eat much wan so don't worry so much about it...they will spend their time sleeping in the pouch during your travel...good that u chose to travel in the morning...

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halo" Good Day " my family first SG joeys name TITO got frm petshack  rclxms.gif 
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hey u guz, im wondering does i still need to feed my 5weeks OOP joey with
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since she OOP i have given HPW every nite.

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Oh wow! so cuteeee!!! How much did you buy it for? Ive been wanting one too smile.gif Is it a male or female??
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TQ "" its a male "" going to get him a companion this monday a female rclxms.gif cause he look s lonely tongue.gif

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Hey! Check out this you all Sugar-Glider fans!

Cool Sugar-Glider T-Shirt!

PETSTER only printed 100pcs for male size and 100pcs for female size.
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Wah so nice la the T-Shirt..I wanna buy one for me.. biggrin.gif
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hey u guz, im wondering does i still need to feed my 5weeks OOP joey with
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since she OOP i have given HPW every nite.
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If the mother has provide suffifient nursing and nutrition, actually you do not hav to feed milk replacer la...
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If the mother has provide suffifient nursing and nutrition, actually you do not hav to feed milk replacer la...
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TQ "" its a male "" going to get him a companion this monday a female  rclxms.gif  cause he look s lonely  tongue.gif

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Actually the joey have been rejected couple days after OOP,since then i have given her HPW.
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y my gal barks whn she's inside the pouch ? seeking my attention o wt ? 1st tym hear her barking ... sad.gif
she doesn't wan 2 get out of her pouch..
But she stays quietly on my hand after gettin her out frm the pouch n fall asleep soon whn i covered n sayang her on my chest... blush.gif

meaning ??? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(ylsy @ Feb 7 2010, 01:30 AM)
y my gal barks whn she's inside the pouch ? seeking my attention o wt ? 1st tym hear her barking ...  sad.gif
she doesn't wan 2 get out of her pouch..
But she stays quietly on my hand after gettin her out frm the pouch n fall asleep soon whn i covered n sayang her on my chest... blush.gif

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she need attention and LOVE.... dats why she bark.. lonely kut... mine will stop barking when i sit in front of her cage.. smp tertido dpn cage dia..
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y my gal barks whn she's inside the pouch ? seeking my attention o wt ? 1st tym hear her barking ...  sad.gif
she doesn't wan 2 get out of her pouch..
But she stays quietly on my hand after gettin her out frm the pouch n fall asleep soon whn i covered n sayang her on my chest... blush.gif

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she is seeking for your attention and company..it's a good thing and it certainly helps bonding with u..keep doing what u do..good job
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 7 2010, 10:43 AM)
your glider is a single glider right?
she is seeking for your attention and company..it's a good thing and it certainly helps bonding with u..keep doing what u do..good job
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ya, single glider... tat's y i spend more thn 2hrs a day v her..
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she need attention and LOVE.... dats why she bark.. lonely kut... mine will stop barking when i sit in front of her cage.. smp tertido dpn cage dia..
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ur's oso single glider ? she did tat every night ?

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well if your glider want u i think u should feel honoured..why dun u put her around your neck in a bonding pouch..that way u can sense your smell and feel secure
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well if your glider want u i think u should feel honoured..why dun u put her around your neck in a bonding pouch..that way u can sense your smell and feel secure
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u mean whn she's slping in the afternoon ?
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u mean whn she's slping in the afternoon ?
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Crislyn's in her pouch right now biggrin.gifD hahah ! Hanging on my neck.
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my venus is quite active but she dont want to eat mealworm that i fed her...
unlike agus that ate everything that i gave,she only ate fruits n HPW...
is it ok for her nutrition??i'm quite worry.... sad.gif
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yes.. u dun put gliders into bonding pouch during their active times...
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cz sth wrg v the biological clock d ..

she'l b awake in the morning til around 1pm...thn she'll on n off wake up fr food....thn slp in the evening till midnight 1am ++..... is it ok fr her ? blush.gif
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my venus is quite active but she dont want to eat mealworm that i fed her...
unlike agus that ate everything that i gave,she only ate fruits n HPW...
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she scare of eating from ur hand or wat? Try u pull the mealworm's head off and let her smell the juice.
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QUOTE(lyaz_zest @ Feb 7 2010, 12:40 PM)
my venus is quite active but she dont want to eat mealworm that i fed her...
unlike agus that ate everything that i gave,she only ate fruits n HPW...
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Crislyn also don't like trying new stuff. Mealworms and boiled chicken also don't want to try. She don't like acacia gum too. o___o If I give the gum alone, she doesn't eat. If I mix with her food, surely there will be left-overs the next morning. If I didn't add then her bowl would be clean.
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joan...nice pictures..where did u get those wheels i also want le..is petshack selling?


Added on February 7, 2010, 9:43 pmThose wheels not going to be cheap since it's coming from US...hahaha..

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Hey Joan (:
Uhh, how big is your cage ah? o__o seems quite spacious, can fit so many things. heh.
What's the price for it yea?
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Hey Joan (:
Uhh, how big is your cage ah? o__o seems quite spacious, can fit so many things. heh.
What's the price for it yea?
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Hey Joan (:
Uhh, how big is your cage ah? o__o seems quite spacious, can fit so many things. heh.
What's the price for it yea?
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New thread. Good job.

Here is Berry, she just went to her new home. Will miss this little girl.
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New thread. Good job.

Here is Berry, she just went to her new home. Will miss this little girl.
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p/s : u sell joeys?

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wow ..nice joey, the tail is soo fluffy,

p/s : u sell joeys?
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Yes, I'm a homebreeder.

This is little JayJay
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yes suggies are lovely pets but u have to know the proper care and have proper accesories...so do your research before getting a pair..


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oh wow look at jayjay innocent face...hahaha..is he a good boy?

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yes suggies are lovely pets but u have to know the proper care and have proper accesories...so do your research before getting a pair..


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oh wow look at jayjay innocent face...hahaha..is he a good boy?
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yes suggies are lovely pets but u have to know the proper care and have proper accesories...so do your research before getting a pair..


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oh wow look at jayjay innocent face...hahaha..is he a good boy?
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JayJay got innocent face, but he is very naughty. I like it when he stones quietly for pictures. He likes to explore and won't sit still for anything but the camera LOL.
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QUOTE(jtl @ Feb 7 2010, 09:15 PM)
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Wow...finally you posted the wheel's pic~~ Hahaha.. I wish i can have one..but it's so so so so expensive.. shocking.gif

As usual, all the gliders are so chubby, esp Athena... tongue.gif
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Wow...finally you posted the wheel's pic~~ Hahaha.. I wish i can have one..but it's so so so so expensive.. shocking.gif

As usual, all the gliders are so chubby, esp Athena... tongue.gif
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yalor i think i will be sticking to wodent wheel..I thought it might be just slightly more expansive but it's way to much for student budget like me

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QUOTE(jtl @ Feb 7 2010, 09:15 PM)
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I want cruiser also~ cry.gif full bounce!! nice pics joan... i lurveeee fat fat... i mean.. plumped suggies like kat XD *runnnnnn*

@Jolene - cryslyn looking really good!!
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Joan, am so glad that u using 5 of the DIYs that i made! wub.gif The basket, the tanglung, the foraging toy, the tiger stripe bush, and the hammock. thumbup.gif

And KIT KAT ATHENA look awesome!! rclxms.gif
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Crislyn is so cute and well fed..her fur looks nice and healthy...can i steal her..?


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yalor i think i will be sticking to wodent wheel..I thought it might be just slightly more expansive but it's way to much for student budget like me
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haha! (: Thanks!
Owh no D: If you steal her, the newspaper would be talking about a random flood the whole week ! ohmy.gif

Hmm. Never heard or seen that kind of wheel before, is it a new design? Or just that they don't have much in msia? o__o
is it very very expensive? Are there more benefits compared to Wodent Wheel? biggrin.gif heh.

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QUOTE(kelvin_faye @ Feb 8 2010, 02:22 AM)
Joan, am so glad that u using 5 of the DIYs that i made!  The basket, the tanglung, the foraging toy, the tiger stripe bush, and the hammock. thumbup.gif

And KIT KAT ATHENA look awesome!!
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Hmm. Never heard or seen that kind of wheel before, is it a new design? Or just that they don't have much in msia? o__o
is it very very expensive? Are there more benefits compared to Wodent Wheel? biggrin.gif heh.
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Those are the custom cruisers made by Bourbon from GC. Since its a little heavier than the average wodent wheels, its really expensive to bring into malaysia lol. You can see how wide the tracks are there are much more benefits. They are also called 'custom' cruisers for a reason. You can customize it to how wide the tracks u want to be, 1/2 bounce or full bounce, with or without the hole covers and much more. The cruisers are a real hit in the states nod.gif J&J would be the very first owners of the custom cruisers in malaysia. thumbup.gif

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SCC, u wan to be the second one? hahaha.... When joan order that wheel i tot of getting one too...but my cage is too small to put the wheel in..it's so BIG!!
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SCC, u wan to be the second one? hahaha.... When joan order that wheel i tot of getting one too...but my cage is too small to put the wheel in..it's so BIG!!
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if i have a gold mine.... yes i definitely want LOL! but to expensive leh... i can buy 2 wodent wheels for the price of 1 sweat.gif so... pendek kata i will just stick with Wodent Wheels XD Well unless.... Petshack can come out with a nice price~ maybe i will consider in getting lah unsure.gif
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if i have a gold mine.... yes i definitely want LOL! but to expensive leh... i can buy 2 wodent wheels for the price of  1  sweat.gif so... pendek kata i will just stick with Wodent Wheels XD Well unless.... Petshack can come out with a nice price~ maybe i will consider in getting lah  unsure.gif
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yalor can get 2 wodent wheel for 1 cruiser..if sligtly expensive then i will think about it...but i think wodent wheel is good enough already..can have 2 separate wheels for the glider to run instead of just 1 wheel where they have to share..and u know they will go tumbling after until one of them quits and waits for their turn..hahaha..funny scene to watch
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haha....no point also if i sell all my 5 wheels then get 1-2 custom cruiser..
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Hi all,

As you all know, I sell do sell my joeys from the gliders that I keep. I’ve always keep track of their progresses…I ask for updates of the joeys that I’ve sold. Checking with the new owners if they have any difficulties with the joeys or how are they doing. I would like to share some of my experience, one which could serve as a good lesson to all of us here.

In Nov 2009, I sold one of my female joey to a forumer, I don’t think she post in this forum. She already has an underaged joey with her, and also one of her joeys passed away earlier.

So bout a months or so later, she called me. Informing me that her underaged joey passed away. Well, I’ve personally seen the underaged joey, so I know he’s a bit weak n small in size. So the news of the boy dying isn’t surprising for me. So I told her it was expected. Initially I told her the boy would have a shorter lifespan compared to a healthy glider.

2 days later she called me again and inform me that the glider that actually passed away was the girl I sold to her. This really surprised me as she was a healthy baby. Curious and surprised, I asked her to send me pictures of the girl. Upon looking at the pictures, she looks fine. Just… dead. This is really heart breaking to me. I have no idea what has happened. Of all gliders that I’ve sold, none of the owners have a single complain. This is the first time that my joey died. She was really upset as well. So we discussed and I suggested that we send the body for autopsy. If it is found that the joey has defects, I would compensate her. I would want to know what is wrong with my glider as well.

A few days later, she forwarded the autopsy report to me. It was in a form of SMS. This came as a rude shock to me.

Here’s how the SMS goes…I’ll just recap what is written in the SMS, I dun remember the exact sentences….

‘The jaw is dislocated, the skull is crushed due to impact. This is definitely not poisoning. She suffocated as the oxygen could circulate, it is definitely done by a human being.’

I was so angry and upset. I asked her what actually happened….

She told me that she was a way for 3 days and let her maid take care of her joeys…so she questioned her maid. But she just denied it.

What I’m trying to say is, don’t simply trust anyone to take care of your pets…be it a glider, dog, cat or anything. This could happen to your pet. Look for ppl who has experience in handling your pets. If can, get those that loves the pet…as much as you do. Hopefully everyone learn from this case.

May she rest in peace.
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oh my..what a sad news i just came into the thread..

i dont think it's your fault...hey even human babies some die also...dont expect all to survive...u cannot blame it on the maid as well..maybe the defects was after it died and how they handled the body...or could be an accident that happen itself without the owners knowledge...it's not right to blame u jitshiong
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nah, the owner didn't blame me or anything

i just want everyone here to be careful
the owner apologise to me so many times...
just pity that poor girl...
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Hi all,

As you all know, I sell do sell my joeys from the gliders that I keep. I’ve always keep track of their progresses…I ask for updates of the joeys that I’ve sold. Checking with the new owners if they have any difficulties with the joeys or how are they doing. I would like to share some of my experience, one which could serve as a good lesson to all of us here.

In Nov 2009, I sold one of my female joey to a forumer, I don’t think she post in this forum. She already has an underaged joey with her, and also one of her joeys passed away earlier.

So bout a months or so later, she called me. Informing me that her underaged joey passed away. Well, I’ve personally seen the underaged joey, so I know he’s a bit weak n small in size. So the news of the boy dying isn’t surprising for me. So I told her it was expected. Initially I told her the boy would have a shorter lifespan compared to a healthy glider.

2 days later she called me again and inform me that the glider that actually passed away was the girl I sold to her. This really surprised me as she was a healthy baby. Curious and surprised, I asked her to send me pictures of the girl. Upon looking at the pictures, she looks fine. Just… dead. This is really heart breaking to me. I have no idea what has happened. Of all gliders that I’ve sold, none of the owners have a single complain. This is the first time that my joey died. She was really upset as well. So we discussed and I suggested that we send the body for autopsy. If it is found that the joey has defects, I would compensate her. I would want to know what is wrong with my glider as well.

A few days later, she forwarded the autopsy report to me. It was in a form of SMS. This came as a rude shock to me.

Here’s how the SMS goes…I’ll just recap what is written in the SMS, I dun remember the exact sentences….

‘The jaw is dislocated, the skull is crushed due to impact. This is definitely not poisoning. She suffocated as the oxygen could circulate, it is definitely done by a human being.’

I was so angry and upset. I asked her what actually happened….

She told me that she was a way for 3 days and let her maid take care of her joeys…so she questioned her maid. But she just denied it.

What I’m trying to say is, don’t simply trust anyone to take care of your pets…be it a glider, dog, cat or anything. This could happen to your pet. Look for ppl who has experience in handling your pets. If can, get those that loves the pet…as much as you do. Hopefully everyone learn from this case.

May she rest in peace.
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after reading your story i just got mad, seriously mad vmad.gif vmad.gif stupid maid, that cute animal also want to abuse..

if its me in that situation, its goodbye to the maid <your fired> no wonder all her suggie died..
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well, i do not know if the previous joey is dead because of the maid...
but her joeys r underaged..definitely...
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Poor thing. It's so sad that something like that can happen. If I were her I would kick the maid out. So far I have not experience this before but luckily you asked for autopsy to know what happened.


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Dislocated Jaw, Crushed Skull.. aiks. Poor thing ):
May she rest in peace.

Good thing my maid's actually afraid of touching Crislyn. Anyways, my maid doesn't even like killing mosquitoes, so.. i doubt she would do anything like that. Though she likes calling Crislyn's name when Crislyn's in her cage. o__o

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can i put a ribbon on my sg tail?
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better not... it will strangle the suggie

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@jitshiong. Really sad to hear that. Thats y no matter how little my time is, i will rather do all my things by myself without asking my maid's help such as clean their cages and feeding them. I really scare 1 day my pets have the same fate as the poor girl's had, not only SG, even guinea pigs, dogs and cats. So i will not hesitate to scold them if they try to do something harmful to my babies. NEVER!
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poor baby
how can the maid be so cruel.. such harmless little thing oso she can lay a cruel hand on it. imagine being suffocated due to unable to take in oxygen.. sigh
everyone really have to be more careful.

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but we do not know if it's the maid fault...it's just assumption...still not good to accuse like that..did the glider die straight after the 3 days?why she blame the dead one was yours,the under age glider died or was it the one she adopted from u?I'm confused

anyway...we should care for all the gliders ourself..it's our responsibility as glider owner
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 8 2010, 10:41 PM)
but we do not know if it's the maid fault...it's just assumption...still not good to accuse like that..did the glider die straight after the 3 days?why she blame the dead one was yours,the under age glider died or was it the one she adopted from u?I'm confused

anyway...we should care for all the gliders ourself..it's our responsibility as glider owner
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for me, as a lesson, we must not put easy on our pet to some1's hand unless u are very very very sure he/she is the right person. When i was away for a few days, i will put my trust to my little brother. Even though he's abit young and still schooling but he is definitely the best person i can choose. Even my oldest sister i cannot trust. At jitshiong case, we might not know if the maid is telling the truth or not. Or maybe it's just an accident... just be more precautions. We are dealing with lifes, not some video games or computers...
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Feb 8 2010, 11:41 PM)
for me, as a lesson, we must not put easy on our pet to some1's hand unless u are very very very sure he/she is the right person. When i was away for a few days, i will put my trust to my little brother. Even though he's abit young and still schooling but he is definitely the best person i can choose. Even my oldest sister i cannot trust. At jitshiong case, we might not know if the maid is telling the truth or not. Or maybe it's just an accident... just be more precautions. We are dealing with lifes, not some video games or computers...
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wah u trust ur bro more..haha..at least ur bro there he sure seen the way u took care of your gliders before..good choice chamyk biggrin.gif
lucky gliders can take around easily in pouches..and have portable cages like exploranium..should do like kelvin with the small tool box with all the glider necessities inside..hahaha...great idea kelvin..should get 1 myself
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Perhaps we don't put any blame on anyone for this incident, neither the owner nor the maid. This story should serve as a reminder to all of us to be more careful when dealing with our pets.
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Feb 8 2010, 03:20 PM)
Hi all,

As you all know, I sell do sell my joeys from the gliders that I keep. I’ve always keep track of their progresses…I ask for updates of the joeys that I’ve sold. Checking with the new owners if they have any difficulties with the joeys or how are they doing. I would like to share some of my experience, one which could serve as a good lesson to all of us here.

In Nov 2009, I sold one of my female joey to a forumer, I don’t think she post in this forum. She already has an underaged joey with her, and also one of her joeys passed away earlier.

So bout a months or so later, she called me. Informing me that her underaged joey passed away. Well, I’ve personally seen the underaged joey, so I know he’s a bit weak n small in size. So the news of the boy dying isn’t surprising for me. So I told her it was expected. Initially I told her the boy would have a shorter lifespan compared to a healthy glider.

2 days later she called me again and inform me that the glider that actually passed away was the girl I sold to her. This really surprised me as she was a healthy baby. Curious and surprised, I asked her to send me pictures of the girl. Upon looking at the pictures, she looks fine. Just… dead. This is really heart breaking to me. I have no idea what has happened. Of all gliders that I’ve sold, none of the owners have a single complain. This is the first time that my joey died. She was really upset as well. So we discussed and I suggested that we send the body for autopsy. If it is found that the joey has defects, I would compensate her. I would want to know what is wrong with my glider as well.

A few days later, she forwarded the autopsy report to me. It was in a form of SMS. This came as a rude shock to me.

Here’s how the SMS goes…I’ll just recap what is written in the SMS, I dun remember the exact sentences….

‘The jaw is dislocated, the skull is crushed due to impact. This is definitely not poisoning. She suffocated as the oxygen could circulate, it is definitely done by a human being.’

I was so angry and upset. I asked her what actually happened….

She told me that she was a way for 3 days and let her maid take care of her joeys…so she questioned her maid. But she just denied it.

What I’m trying to say is, don’t simply trust anyone to take care of your pets…be it a glider, dog, cat or anything. This could happen to your pet. Look for ppl who has experience in handling your pets. If can, get those that loves the pet…as much as you do. Hopefully everyone learn from this case.

May she rest in peace.
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well,
as the autopsy report goes...the person responsible for it can only be the maid, or the owner...
not those kind of injury from a fall...
sugar gliders can glide, so they hardly get injuries that i've stated from a fall..
even from a high place...
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Feb 9 2010, 08:59 AM)
well,
as the autopsy report goes...the person responsible for it can only be the maid, or the owner...
not those kind of injury from a fall...
sugar gliders can glide, so they hardly get injuries that i've stated from a fall..
even from a high place...
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could owner do that??? she buy glider around 300... its would be waste la if do that... dunno la if that owner got mental prob...
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could owner do that??? she buy glider around 300... its would be waste la if do that... dunno la if that owner got mental prob...
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yea, but if it was the owner...won't it be easier to just blame it on me?
saying my glider is sick n died?
rather than sending it for autopsy?
anyway, i didn't post the story to speculate how it happened
i just want everyone to learn something from it
choose ur pet's guardian properly
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so sad to know about this news... how could someone do that to such cute babies sad.gif
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hey all,
my sugar glider is already with me almost 3-4 months...
and im planing to get a partner for her... isit a good time for now? and i plan to get a male DOA on march... cos i read is better to get the male younger than the female 1?
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So I assume you plan to breed? Jus make sure u study what you should study bout breeding gliders.
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hey all,
my sugar glider is already with me almost 3-4 months...
and im planing to get a partner for her... isit a good time for now? and i plan to get a male DOA on march... cos i read is better to get the male younger than the female 1?
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just click at 1 st page...eric allready put some acticle -How to introduce sugar gliders rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(onezkatana @ Feb 9 2010, 12:09 PM)
yes u can get a male..but u need a proper introduction..some time they can get long just a few second..some time a week or more...
just click at 1 st page...eric allready put some acticle -How to introduce sugar gliders  rclxms.gif
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but still need to comfirm 2nd time...
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nice!!looks so red...like in theme for chinese new year..haha..your sg so cute posing there..
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wow very very very nice cage u have there. Your SGs must LOVE it!
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QUOTE(Yvaine @ Feb 9 2010, 04:39 PM)
My SGs' Cage~

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biggrin.gifD Nice ! haha ! The tiger soft toy there so cute x] like same size as your glider O: hahah
How big is your cage? (:
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i love ur cage.. btw, whats is the green thing??
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Just want to ask.. again lol, ummm, i went to my friends house today and i saw his glider. He said the guy who sold it to him said the glider (male) was like 2 months old. BUT its like hella bigger than the gliders that u guys posted (male 2 mths old.) I compared my female 3 mth old glider with it, its so much bigger than mine.
What do u guys think??? Opinions??

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QUOTE(PeeBee @ Feb 9 2010, 08:33 PM)
Just want to ask.. again lol, ummm, i went to my friends house today and i saw his glider. He said the guy who sold it to him said the glider (male) was like 2 months old. BUT its like hella bigger than the gliders that u guys posted (male 2 mths old.) I compared my female 3 mth old glider with it, its so much bigger than mine.
What do u guys think??? Opinions??
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QUOTE(takanori @ Feb 9 2010, 11:23 AM)
hey all,
my sugar glider is already with me almost 3-4 months...
and im planing to get a partner for her... isit a good time for now? and i plan to get a male DOA on march... cos i read is better to get the male younger than the female 1?
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Well, it's just the right age I would say. If you have read all about breeding and proper introduction, shouldn't be a problem. Since you have planned nicely, should go on well.

Remember about the proper way of introducing yah.

QUOTE(Yvaine @ Feb 9 2010, 04:39 PM)
My SGs' Cage~

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I have yet to start working my own handmade suggie cage accessories sweat.gif
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Wow, like CNY glider cage. If you hang some ang paus sure look damn nice LOL. But ang paus not healthy for them, lead in the colouring hehehe. Anyway, nice.

QUOTE(PeeBee @ Feb 9 2010, 08:33 PM)
Just want to ask.. again lol, ummm, i went to my friends house today and i saw his glider. He said the guy who sold it to him said the glider (male) was like 2 months old. BUT its like hella bigger than the gliders that u guys posted (male 2 mths old.) I compared my female 3 mth old glider with it, its so much bigger than mine.
What do u guys think??? Opinions??
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It could be older. If the person who sold it to him was a middleman or a pet shop staff, they would not really know how to tell the age, so would just simply crap and say 2 months old since that is what we all want to hear. Best to take a picture so we can judge better.

Or it could be that the glider is a single joey, and sometimes single joeys will grow bigger or faster due to getting all of mom's attention and milk.
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errrr...got picture to show?normaly 2 months has grey fur..what color is the fur?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 9 2010, 09:23 PM)
Well, it's just the right age I would say. If you have read all about breeding and proper introduction, shouldn't be a problem. Since you have planned nicely, should go on well.

Remember about the proper way of introducing yah.
Wow, like CNY glider cage. If you hang some ang paus sure look damn nice LOL. But ang paus not healthy for them, lead in the colouring hehehe. Anyway, nice.
It could be older. If the person who sold it to him was a middleman or a pet shop staff, they would not really know how to tell the age, so would just simply crap and say 2 months old since that is what we all want to hear. Best to take a picture so we can judge better.

Or it could be that the glider is a single joey, and sometimes single joeys will grow bigger or faster due to getting all of mom's attention and milk.
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HI thx for ur replies. I tried to take photos, but since theyre still new to our place, i dont wanna "kah chau" them atm, just let them get use to their owners and environment first. Cuz they always make sounds when we try to gently touch them etc.
Anyhow the male glider's color does look very similar to yueyi5730 avatar photo. I can definitely see that the female is more grey, and the male is more white/cream in colour.

We've been discussing the gliders, and we think that the male "is" older than what was told to him (my friend) and that the glider may have been caged alot, not much communication between the glider and humans, not much interaction also, thats why its so deffensive. VERY deffensive actually. Cuz its been like nearly 1 week my friend has had this male glider and its still kinda scared, never really eats much, always sleeps in the sleeping pouch, it does come out sometimes to play in the wheel, but only for a while, sits in the wheel and is afraid to come out to take a walk lol. And its even bit/nipped while it was being carried out of the pouch (had to cuz he had to clean the pouch.)

Oh, and the tail is normal, not fluffy like how ya'll say. Does it mean its got problems?

So how? Do u think all this is over reacting?

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nice!!looks so red...like in theme for chinese new year..haha..your sg so cute posing there..
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wow very very very nice cage u have there. Your SGs must LOVE it!
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 9 2010, 09:23 PM)
Wow, like CNY glider cage. If you hang some ang paus sure look damn nice LOL. But ang paus not healthy for them, lead in the colouring hehehe. Anyway, nice.
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Thanks guys ^^ CNY must decor till red red! laugh.gif Yueyi, that's my Baby Girl posing wub.gif

QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Feb 9 2010, 05:38 PM)
biggrin.gifD Nice ! haha ! The tiger soft toy there so cute x] like same size as your glider O: hahah
How big is your cage? (:
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The cage is 4ft, 28" x 21" x 51" H ^^ Bought from Pet Shack one! Wanted to buy the white cage like Eric's because it's bigger and taller but we were not able to fit the cage into the car @@" So no choice, black one it is! Lol. A tiger soft toy for welcoming a new tiger year! wink.gif

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i love ur cage..  btw, whats is the green thing??
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You mean on the top left hand corner? It's a bear toy tongue.gif

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sg prefer dark environment maybe u can take them out to roam at night with a dim light or small night light..u can let them roam in a glider proof room or a 2 men tent that a few of our members here are doing..during the day can ask ur fren to put in a bonding pouch and carry everywhere for few hours..there will be a lot of crabbing at first after some time they will get used to it..

the way u describe the colour and tail very hard to imagine..best is with photograph..about the tail fluffy means healthy and enough age(as in 2 months oop and above)if the colour and features like my Tobi(in the avatar) that time if i'm not mistaken he was about 4 months already..before he had a bald spot and before he got neutered..

if ur fren not ready to breed i suggest u ask him to neuter the male...if the female is younger and too young to get pregnant some complications might occur...like joey rejection,might get hurt by the male since she's not ready to mate..
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Ok, this is the Male glider... first time in the tent, he seems ok now, hasnt made any sound... getting use to the environment i think.
I think the tail looks ok, just not as fluffy as some other gliders...

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can i ask what is the yellowish mixture in the bowl?
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nah, the owner didn't blame me or anything

i just want everyone here to be careful
the owner apologise to me so many times...
just pity that poor girl...
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ive had it worse 2 years back.
my maid complained that there were a rat in her room and wants some poison. my old man bought some for her that weekend. then she went and put the poison on pork meat next to the fridge on the floor in the kitchen... next thing i knew, my mum called me when i was in college that the dog had poisoning. after all of us rush back,me being the first one home (1.5hr away), and followed by mum half hr after that. took the dog to the vet... in the end it was too late.. the shihtzu died twice...

after knowing the full story, apparently the maid saw the dog licking every bits of the poison, she waited and ask my sis to wait.. and when the dog vomit, my maid took the dog for coconut water.... and only call my mum on the fourth hour when the dog wouldnt move....

my maid ran away after that..
ironically, my dog's name is Lucky...




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@PeeBee
the male glider is not underage..the gliders are with u or with your friend?the food bowl give more variety of fruits and vege ya...i also wanna know wats the yellow liquid..

@jcmf
how did your shitzhu dog die twice?
your baby glider is so cute...u feed apple?why don't u cut it to small pieces easier for them to hold..what cage are u using?

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yeah.. that one.. doesnt look like a bear.. looks more like a container::
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Last time there are tunnels made from fleece, i can't use that at all. U know why? They all like to sleep inside there! doh.gif Prefer the tunnel than the sleeping pouch. And it is so difficult for me to get them out.

Hence i always use tunnel when i do boarding. Haha. Save me the RM i bought the tunnel, but not using on my babies. sweat.gif
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jcmf: i have 2 agree with yueyi, why u dont cut the apple into smaller and the apple look like it been there for long, beside that from wat i see the cage is not 3ft, it looks like hamster cage.*Sorry if i'm wrong* and the newspaper is every where, newspaper is printed with ink, and ink is very dangerous for them, if can try change to the 3ft cage so they can have a better environment. biggrin.gif
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Thanks yueyi5730, for all the info and help. Umm the yellowish stuff is the HPW starter kit, I do mix variety of veges/ fruits but i didnt have it yesterday..
Mine is staying with me and the male stays with my friend. He lives in the same block as me so i go to their house often hehe!!! Let the gliders get to know one another smile.gif Were not trying to mate them. Just want them to have friends smile.gif
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Hye..

My SG now become so so so active.. He always bites my hand..if i take him out of cage..he comes to me , jump into my body..bites me many times..What that's mean?..it's hungry?.. i thinks no lor.. Coz before take him out, i let him finish the food first..

If i neuter my male , he can active less?
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QUOTE(eekang @ Feb 10 2010, 10:46 AM)
jcmf: i have 2 agree with yueyi, why u dont cut the apple into smaller and the apple look like it been there for long, beside that from wat i see the cage is not 3ft, it looks like hamster cage.*Sorry if i'm wrong* and the newspaper is every where, newspaper is printed with ink, and ink is very dangerous for them, if can try change to the 3ft cage so they can have a better environment. biggrin.gif
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I'm sure jcmf already know all the basic knowledge of keeping gliders, he is not new in glider thread. Mayb it's temporary cage? erm..i dono..


QUOTE(PeeBee @ Feb 10 2010, 10:57 AM)
Thanks yueyi5730, for all the info and help. Umm the yellowish stuff is the HPW starter kit, I do mix variety of veges/ fruits but i didnt have it yesterday..
Mine is staying with me and the male stays with my friend. He lives in the same block as me so i go to their house often hehe!!! Let the gliders get to know one another smile.gif Were not trying to mate them. Just want them to have friends smile.gif
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That big bowl is for how many gliders? So MUCH..... i feed all my 5gliders also don serve that much in a day...

QUOTE(echah83 @ Feb 10 2010, 11:00 AM)
Hye..

My SG now become so so so active.. He always bites my hand..if i take him out of cage..he comes to me , jump into my body..bites me many times..What that's mean?..it's hungry?.. i thinks no lor.. Coz before take him out, i let him finish the food first..

If i neuter my male , he can active less?
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Their aggressiveness will be reduced and not as dominant as before.

Glider are curious animal, some time they jus loves to try and explore new thing. So they will bite here bit bite there bit lo..
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i'm sorry, dint knw! sweat.gif but hopefully its tempo.btw, can i bring my mom glider with me 2 college with her 2 joeys and leave the male glider in cage.. seperate them for awhile. isit ok?
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I think you better don.. either u bring all them out.. or either let them rest at home..
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Last time there are tunnels made from fleece, i can't use that at all. U know why? They all like to sleep inside there! doh.gif Prefer the tunnel than the sleeping pouch. And it is so difficult for me to get them out.

Hence i always use tunnel when i do boarding. Haha. Save me the RM i bought the tunnel, but not using on my babies. sweat.gif
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Same case! The tunnel made from fleece has double layers of fleece. My sugs would tear through the 1st layer of fleece from the inside and sleep in between the 2 layers of fleece doh.gif It's so hard to get them out!
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Yvainne, come decorate my cages for me la...haha...
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thanks god my 2 boys are not chewers..hahaha...some of my friends sg also chew the pouches..then i give them the pouch that i sew lor..haha....mine loves the tunnel but still goes back to pouch to sleep..once a while they take naps in the tunnel..

@echah83
i neuter my 2 males both are also as active jumping here and there climb curtains..the big difference is the smell which is so much less now..agressiveness i dunno but i read that it's easier to intro other gliders to them compared to non neutered..but to me it depends on their personality wheather they are friendly or not... but they do "bite" me sometimes when they are crawling all over me..it's grooming u actually...not that hard until got bruise or bleeding..feels like a slight pinch..if real biting normally associates with crabbing when they are scared or trying to escape so to defend themself they bite...they way u describe sounds like grooming u..it's a good thing
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QUOTE(echah83 @ Feb 10 2010, 11:00 AM)
Hye..

My SG now become so so so active.. He always bites my hand..if i take him out of cage..he comes to me , jump into my body..bites me many times..What that's mean?..it's hungry?.. i thinks no lor.. Coz before take him out, i let him finish the food first..

If i neuter my male , he can active less?
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my sg also like that.. means she wants to play.. just layan her la.. she wants more attention from u..


btw, can i bring my sg to class everyday or one in a while only?


Added on February 10, 2010, 3:23 pmi mean he..

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how long is your class...your school allow?later they crab then whole class attention driven away
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Yvainne, come decorate my cages for me la...haha...
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 10 2010, 08:35 AM)
@PeeBee
the male glider is not underage..the gliders are with u or with your friend?the food bowl give more variety of fruits and vege ya...i also wanna know wats the yellow liquid..

@jcmf
how did your shitzhu dog die twice?
your baby glider is so cute...u feed apple?why don't u cut it to small pieces easier for them to hold..what cage are u using?
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died 1st time for bout 1minute, but the vet manage to pull it back to the world.
2nd time was the end...

cage is a 3ft one i assure u. however its round.. not square like all ur cages.. planning to diy one 5ft cage soon. wait till Baby become bigger... and older..
that apple was since morning. picture came 1st. morning food will be in 1 pcs as i dont like stale apple. if cut to small pcs, very fast i have to change. dont worry, their dinner is slurp.

QUOTE(eekang @ Feb 10 2010, 10:46 AM)
jcmf: i have 2 agree with yueyi, why u dont cut the apple into smaller and the apple look like it been there for long, beside that from wat i see the cage is not 3ft, it looks like hamster cage.*Sorry if i'm wrong* and the newspaper is every where, newspaper is printed with ink, and ink is very dangerous for them, if can try change to the 3ft cage so they can have a better environment. biggrin.gif
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i replace with newspaper as i could not cut the female's nails when it was carrying the joey. hence, pouch was removes. all cloth materials are removed as well.. my female's nail always get caught..
its safer this way...


btw, my gliders are more than 1yrs old... so rest assured that i am capable to keep gliders.. im just happy that i have a new addition.


@eric138
dont reali come in this thread cz i have not much to share and all info are quite complete. hahaha
so relatively im new to this thread. thanks for the support tho.

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bite is quite normal. even mine will jump on my hand. cz they think i am handing out food...
however, not pain at all tho.. and if i dont have food, usually they will lick and continue climbing onto me.
just keep in mind that they are more active than hamsters.
if you dont like when they bite, blow them on the face when they bite. usually they will stun awhile. not too hard tho.
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@jcmf
wah u finnaly got joey u must feel very happy...i also wanna get a pair but i will see if i can cope with my studies this semester before having new pets..hehe..


Added on February 10, 2010, 4:43 pmmy cage is 4ft DIY one..i dont use 3ft cage at home..i just bought 1 3ft cage 2nd hand for spare..maybe for future use and also i balik kampung can set up there..

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Thanks Eric and JCMF..

But cannot tahan when he bites me.. My hand full of scar..hehehe..
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it's 5 hours class.. no actually.. she's a very good girl when i'm in class
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QUOTE(Devil Boo @ Feb 10 2010, 05:30 PM)
it's 5 hours class.. no actually.. she's a very good girl when i'm in class
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I used to bring my glider to school from 9am - 5pm, but then now pets aren't allowed anymore so I can't bring her D:
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if she's a good girl and the school allow i think it's ok..after all they spend their time sleeping during the day..


Added on February 10, 2010, 6:03 pm@echah83

last time i find it painful too..but now i tua adi and biasa play with gliders i got used to it...my hands also full of scars.mainly is their nails thats why have to trim often

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thank u for ur advices..
if i bring her everyday, will it effect her health?? for exp:stress?

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if she is used to be in a bonding pouch then ok wan..and if she's used to noise and ppl that's even better..shouldnt be a probelm if ur suggie sleeps throughout the day
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QUOTE(echah83 @ Feb 10 2010, 05:11 PM)
Thanks Eric and JCMF..

But cannot tahan when he bites me.. My hand full of scar..hehehe..
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then its not normal. maybe take some time to bond. try hand feeding more often.
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Everyone balik kampung with their suggies this chinese new year?

I went to petshack bought treats yesterday and some stuff for my friend..kekeke...met eric but was in a rush..oni manage to say hi bye..
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Everyone balik kampung with their suggies this chinese new year?

I went to petshack bought treats yesterday and some stuff for my friend..kekeke...met eric but was in a rush..oni manage to say hi bye..
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Yeap biggrin.gifD Bringing Crislyn to meet HER aunty and uncles O: hahah !!! and her great grandparents o___o
heheh. Packing her stuff now biggrin.gifD We're leaving tmr x]
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to all who going back to hometown... have a safe journey, buckle up urself n ur suggie... hehehe
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i bringing my "new" 2nd hand 3ft cage since staying quite long..got it just in time for cny..thanks to cipan..i friday going back with train..then saturday to sitiawan..kekeke...wonder my babies can collect ang pao...hahahaha...


Added on February 10, 2010, 8:40 pm@jolene wah u balik so fast...where's ur kampung?
my suggies got special bag..and i have my own bag..hahaha..


Added on February 10, 2010, 8:41 pmthanks tednet we will...

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QUOTE(tednet @ Feb 10 2010, 08:37 PM)
to all who going back to hometown... have a safe journey, buckle up urself n ur suggie... hehehe
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heheh biggrin.gif Thanks !!
Normally in the car, I hang the bonding pouch on my neck and the seat belt is over the string above the pouch tongue.gif hahha !

QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 10 2010, 08:37 PM)
i bringing my "new" 2nd hand 3ft cage since staying quite long..got it just in time for cny..thanks to cipan..i friday going back with train..then saturday to sitiawan..kekeke...wonder my babies can collect ang pao...hahahaha...


Added on February 10, 2010, 8:40 pm@jolene wah u balik so fast...where's ur kampung?
my suggies got special bag..and i have my own bag..hahaha..

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haha ! I'm bringing both exoterra and my 3ft cage (: Won't be leaving them there though, bringing both back again. The exoterra only able to hang 1 thing there right? I don't know how to put the food bowl and water bottle ): Food bowl scared it'll topple over, then water bottle no idea how to put.

haha ! Yea (: Will be skipping half the classes tmr O: hahah !!! Dad wants to avoid the jam.
My kampung's in Kedah (: hehe.
My suggies got their own bag too !! biggrin.gifD hahha !! Bringing some of the DIY stuff too in case i need them to kill time O: heh. Though I have loads of homework, I don't think I can stand HOURS of them o__o
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@jolene
wah good idea to bring DIY..can do in the car..i should too

i use exoterra is i staying for 3 days like tat..but now kinda long so take 3ft cage..yea exoterra oni can hand 1 pouch..water i go throught the small hole with wire the bottle is hung inside not from outside..and i use 2 deep porceline plate for fruits,vege and slurp..and i release few crickets inside for them to catch...exoterra the crickets cant escape ma..3ft cage can hang toys and hammock too..so glad i got 1 now
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Hoho..luckily i got 2 exploranium standby at my hometown d...

Talk bout ang pow, last year my gliders did receive ang pow from my parents, grandparents, sisters, and relatives... I hang a red pouch at their cage, so when ppl visit, they put the angpow in the pouch..

Good also..contribute bit for their supplements and food..
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hi eric..wah i should try that too if lucky maybe they will get also..hehehe..need to get myself a red pouch..go back ipoh fast fast sew one..hahahaha..ipoh i have one DIY big cage..but my mom's home town i don't go back often so have to bring along a cage..their 1st time CNY with me..i'm excited
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hehehe biggrin.gifD Yea ! In the car might be a little messy though, later the scissors or cloth drop or fly everywhere. lols. unless u cut all then tie the knots all in the car la. haha !

Yea, i'm also going quite long. About 6/7 days. Scared she'll get bored and those kinda stuff. heh.. Later bark and wake everyone up at night O:
Hmm.. Crislyn's still kinda afraid of other ppl, would not crab but will move away quickly. S:

Good idea, porceline plates, but got to ask parents for permission O: then got to label them and so too. haha ! Later mix up. ><
Crislyn still doesn't eat insects ): She doesn't want to try at all. lols. She won't even try boiled chicken o____o


@Eric
Wow ! o___o Glider also got ang pao !! hahaha :DDD Lucky them ;D You can buy more stuff to pamper them! hehee x] Maybe I should try O: But I doubt it'll be a success for me. hahah !!!


Added on February 10, 2010, 9:50 pmhahha ! Opps.. post so many times o__o sorry.. biggrin.gif edited.
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wah.. next raya want to do that!!:P
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if she's a good girl and the school allow i think it's ok..after all they spend their time sleeping during the day..


Added on February 10, 2010, 6:03 pm@echah83

last time i find it painful too..but now i tua adi and biasa play with gliders i got used to it...my hands also full of scars.mainly is their nails thats why have to trim often
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Yeah lor cry.gif Yesterday is the first time i play tent with my gliders. when i put them in, the start climb here climb there. until my face also wan to climb. Until my face, neck, leg & hand also got scar cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif . It's time to trim them again >.<
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hehe. I just trimmed Crislyn's nail just now biggrin.gif Make sure balik kampung not all sharp sharp O:
Bringing her nail clipper back too biggrin.gif In case tongue.gif
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If i trim my suggie's nails , she couldn't really hold tight to me (tend to fall off frm me and sometimes do sweat.gif ) .. bt if i din't trim it , her nails will get stuck on the fabric .... so hw often shd i trim it so tat she's able 2 hold tight 2 me n wnt get stuck on the fabrics ? blush.gif
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happy CNY to all chinese forumer rclxms.gif

we are also going back kampung for CNY eventhough not celebrating it, just wanna take our suggies for vacation to Terengganu .
but the problem is, we are supposely go back on saturday morning and arrive before night, so that Agus and Venus will be sleeping throughout the journey, but mom called and asked us to balik on Friday night, which I might afraid they will be awake by then and stress from the bumpy, long journey to Terengganu sad.gif Im bringing their alternate cage and planning want to but an exploranium from Petshack before heading back to Terengganu .

Btw, we were bringing Agus and Venus out tonight jalan jalan, minum minum at kedai . Agus as usual become so active and wanna to explore everything, but he loves to lick dirt semua , scared of he getting diarrhea . and Venus pula, we love the idea of she being obedient, tak gerak gerak and duduk diam diam on the shoulder, not like Agus yang suka panjat panjat, but it has been a week now, and Venus looks so inactive compared to Agus and we scared that she doesnt get enough nutrition ? Because she doesnt eat as much as Agus .

Oh and my 4 month Agus starting to glide everywhere he can, jump from one head to another shoulder, and scary sometime because, he can glide more than ONE METRE ! ! Naughty .

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The explorium is highly recommended when travelling iyaz smile.gif since u have no choice but to travel at nite, then u will need to have the explorium pop'ed up while travelling so they have space to move around.
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the nails if u dont trim too deep they will still have a little grip and it wont pierce the skin..no matter what after trimming u have to keep an eye on them so they don't fall unintensionally...

yup like SCC said travelling at night u have to open up the exploranium for them to move about inside..if not they will feel stressed cooped up in a small space like bonding pouch

u can give the LC vit to boost up the appetite..it works..now my boys more buffy already..if i serve their fav fruits everything gone next morning..haha
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Hmm.. I don't think i'm bringing the exoterra anymore. Since i'm staying for quite a long while and travelling in the afternoon, will just bring the 3ft cage (: hehe/.
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i didnt bring my suggie to class today.. but mom told me, while i was in school, my baby caught a cockroach.. the bad part was she ate it.. i think the thing went inside her cage?? what should i do?? will it effect her?
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u just pray the cockroach not efect on anything..i think she should be ok..jgn risau lah k...
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as u know cockroach are dirty and got bacteria this and that..so we dont purposely give them cockroach to eat unless we breed the cockroach ourself..who breeds house cockroach right? except dubias for sg..if the body immune can kill of the bacteria and so on then should be ok..in the wild they eat wild insects also..so shouldnt be anything to worry about la..doens;t mean i encourage u guys to give the house cockroach to sg ya
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No wild insects should be fed to captive gliders because their immunity and body development are differs from wild gliders since the living environment and diet are so much different.

But accident does happen sometime. Jus monitor the glider, mayb he/she will diarrhea because of upset stomach..

Brought all the gliders to regular check up b4 CNY, all are healthy and parasites free..hoho... all body are ready to beg for more ang pow~~ biggrin.gif
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if can teach the glider to Gong xi gong xi will be great..hahha..i'm going for check up after new year as well as taking my friend and her glider for neutering..kekeke
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oh thank god.. i was so worried sweat.gif
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should be ok..dont worry so much
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Hello! here are my 2 little joeys shade and shadow! biggrin.gif oop on the 10/1/10. and this the first time i gave them makan the worm =/

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First time eating worm drool.gif the just suck the juice out. rclxms.gif

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hi shade and shadow..u are both lovely joeys...they look like they are really enjoying the meal worm...1st time also so pandai already
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 11 2010, 09:58 PM)
hi shade and shadow..u are both lovely joeys...they look like they are really enjoying the meal worm...1st time also so pandai already
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haha! they bite bite then got juice com out then left the skin onli -.- they dint eat. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(eekang @ Feb 11 2010, 09:17 PM)
Hello! here are my 2 little joeys shade and shadow! biggrin.gif oop on the 10/1/10. and this the first time i gave them makan the worm =/

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First time eating worm  drool.gif the just suck the juice out.  rclxms.gif

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reminds me of my sg when she was small>> cry.gif
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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Feb 11 2010, 02:19 AM)
The explorium is highly recommended when travelling iyaz smile.gif since u have no choice but to travel at nite, then u will need to have the explorium pop'ed up while travelling so they have space to move around.
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Thanks SCC ! Now im worry-free ! yayyy . gonna head to Petshack to buy one !

QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 11 2010, 08:06 AM)
the nails if u dont trim too deep they will still have a little grip and it wont pierce the skin..no matter what after trimming u have to keep an eye on them so they don't fall unintensionally...

yup like SCC said travelling at night u have to open up the exploranium for them to move about inside..if not they will feel stressed cooped up in a small space like bonding pouch

u can give the LC vit to boost up the appetite..it works..now my boys more buffy already..if i serve their fav fruits everything gone next morning..haha
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I give them the LC Vit in their water, and still only Agus drink it ? ayo Venus, but she looks health just doesnt move around so much like Agus . and i think she become kinda spoil and manja because she doesnt want to eat by her own, kena suap her baru makan banyak especially the HPW .

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hi shade and shadow..u are both lovely joeys...they look like they are really enjoying the meal worm...1st time also so pandai already
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here's two pictures of my Xiao Gui (previously named Bear).

she is definitely one of a kind! she was underaged when I got her, but, she is a natural pro killing mealworms. out of all my gliders (none of them had mealworms prior), she was the only one who attacked it at first sight. she doesn't bite me out of aggression (though she nibbles on me for more food.. the little pig!) and she doesn't seem to grow up. i've been feeding her HPW since I got her, but she is still very tiny eventhough her tail is fluffy now... i'm sure she does not suffer from malnutrition because she's a fighter. she fights the bigger gliders for her food and on top of that, i give her a little extra HPW and protein.

on top of that, she's very curious and active. she wakes up during the evening and climbs all over me and explores my room.

enjoy~

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Xiao Gui aka Bear

my other gliders, King, Honey and Meeko are also very special. King moves like a slowpoke and is very shy!! Honey likes to be alone and bark.. As for Meeko, he's just as adventurous as Xiao Gui, climbing on top of my curtains and riding on top of my head. He's the most bitey of the lot, but he doesn't bite if you handle him roughly, he just bites when he thinks you've got food. LOL.

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Honey!

and last but not least...

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QUOTE(babyvey @ Feb 12 2010, 06:02 PM)
here's two pictures of my Xiao Gui (previously named Bear).

she is definitely one of a kind! she was underaged when I got her, but, she is a natural pro killing mealworms. out of all my gliders (none of them had mealworms prior), she was the only one who attacked it at first sight. she doesn't bite me out of aggression (though she nibbles on me for more food.. the little pig!) and she doesn't seem to grow up. i've been feeding her HPW since I got her, but she is still very tiny eventhough her tail is fluffy now... i'm sure she does not suffer from malnutrition because she's a fighter. she fights the bigger gliders for her food and on top of that, i give her a little extra HPW and protein.

on top of that, she's very curious and active. she wakes up during the evening and climbs all over me and explores my room.

enjoy~

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Xiao Gui aka Bear

my other gliders, King, Honey and Meeko are also very special. King moves like a slowpoke and is very shy!! Honey likes to be alone and bark.. As for Meeko, he's just as adventurous as Xiao Gui, climbing on top of my curtains and riding on top of my head. He's the most bitey of the lot, but he doesn't bite if you handle him roughly, he just bites when he thinks you've got food. LOL. 

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Honey!

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Bear indeed looks like a fighter. She is lucky.

I think Meeko stands out the most, he is so dark, black beauty dark.

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Thanks SCC ! Now im worry-free ! yayyy . gonna head to Petshack to buy one !
I give them the LC Vit in their water, and still only Agus drink it ? ayo Venus, but she looks health just doesnt move around so much like Agus . and i think she become kinda spoil and manja because she doesnt want to eat by her own, kena suap her baru makan banyak especially the HPW .
hye shade and shadow, nice comel joeys smile.gif
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spoit glider..too manja by u already..Yueyi reporting from ipoh...they are in their big cage jumping around happily..it's like vacation for them also..ipoh cage is much wider..hahaha..but 2ml going to stay in 3ft cage since going balik kampung..and no internet...

so i wanna take this opportunity to wish all u guys HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR..those not celebrating take this opportunity to visit frens and also time for yourself to relax and unwind..hehe..


Added on February 12, 2010, 11:33 pmShow some adult meeko picture la..wanna see...


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This morning I saw my SG eat her own poo!!!! Means what? I am so worry...)=
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It's either she is stress or her digestive system is not functioning well... That means she didnt fully digest the food, so she eat her own poo..

Try to feed higher fiber food and see.. if is becoz of stress, then you nid to find out the reason why she is feeling stress.
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Hi..i'm new here...wanna ask a few questions :

Why is my glider doesn't seems 2 grow fatter n bigger after having her for a month ? The diet i'm feeding her now is friuts ,celery ,sweet potato(her favourite) ,choy sam ,mengkuang (rarely) ,HPW (everyday) ,glider booster (almost everyday) , gliderade (seldom) , glider cal ( one pinch a week )...
how 2 introduce her acacia gum n yogurt drop ? cusz she doesn't wan 2 eat the yogurt drop tat i feed her..
will she gain the correct amount of calcium n protein everyday from the diet that i'm feeding her ?

Is it ok 2 leave her alone when she barks in the midnight (around 3am) ? csz i heard her barking yesterday , i brought her out from the cage n she stays quietly on me ...but i'll be asleep by that time usually, except yesterday -Chinese New Year ...

Thx.

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@ylsy, erm.. why suddenly post up the recipe? dont get what you mean..
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@ylsy, erm.. why suddenly post up the recipe? dont get what you mean..
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jz wondering abt the dog biscuit part ....cz i tot dog biscuit shdn't b feed to suggies ???  hmm.gif
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There are a lot controversial issue in glider diet. So, there is neither right or wrong, but the option that you chose.

Dog/cat kibbles shouldn't be fed to gliders as staple for long period, because of the hardiness, fat content, and ingredients of the kibbles..

Different recipe has their own ingredients, for this case, dog biscuit is jus part of it. And dont forget, it's a MIX. so if i assume you blend this one batch of recipe can last one glider for months..that means the glider doesnt consume a lot dog biscuit in a day actually.. And don forget, they don feed raw like that..it's blended mix..

And, it's OK to feed your glider dog/cat biscuit as treats..mayb one small kibble every one or two weeks.. Jus make sure there is no garlic and onion inside..
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Happy Chinese New Year !!!  tongue.gif
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SO CUTE!!! biggrin.gifD I like the first picture !! hahah biggrin.gifD



HAPPY CHINESE TO ALL OF YOU :DDD WHEE !! haha.
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Added on February 16, 2010, 1:12 pmwt other food shd i feed her 2 make her tail fluffier ? blush.gif (nw on HPW , fruits , vege , supplements....)



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HELLO ALL I`M BACK.... HAPPY CNY ALL..

my glider is getting bigger and still alil more aggressive and hate my brother. lol

HAPPY CNY
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can 4 months old glider be mix with an older glider? say like 10 months to a year old glider?
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QUOTE(Devil Boo @ Feb 16 2010, 05:41 PM)
can 4 months old glider be mix with an older glider? say like 10 months to a year old glider?
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Why not. as long as you properly introduce them.
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because i'm afraid of the older glider will bully the little one


Added on February 16, 2010, 7:10 pmhow about 1 month or 2 months old glider mix with an older one?

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thumbup.gif rclxms.gif happy chinese new year!!!

so long i havent checked in sooo busy...so much sudah miss...

anyway to those who know RJ, he is now officially living with his gf Furla..i got her in dec but never put together until february...give her time to grow...so that RJ tak bully her and they got along fine within 10 minutes!! i have been switching their pouches and cages regularly after deworming etc..so technically they have been smelling and seeing each other for 2 months before living together...like tunang zaman dulu dulu pulak!!

it was so cute when they were finally intro-ed...furla crabbed at RJ for jumping on her so greedily.. brows.gif he terus ran out and only came sniffing back slowly after she calmed down..after that first 2 minutes they were inseparable...constantly licking and grooming each other...RJ would go down and bring up furla's fruit to her in the tent...he steps aside when she comes down for her hpw...so gentleman... wub.gif

so glad i could share this info with my SG lovers...thanks so much for your guidance and expertise...
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QUOTE(glidermama @ Feb 16 2010, 07:51 PM)
thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  happy chinese new year!!!

so long i havent checked in sooo busy...so much sudah miss...

anyway to those who know RJ, he is now officially living with his gf Furla..i got her in dec but never put together until february...give her time to grow...so that RJ tak bully her and they got along fine within 10 minutes!! i have been switching their pouches and cages regularly after deworming etc..so technically they have been smelling and seeing each other for 2 months before living together...like tunang zaman dulu dulu pulak!!

it was so cute when they were finally intro-ed...furla crabbed at RJ for jumping on her so greedily.. brows.gif he terus ran out and only came sniffing back slowly after she calmed down..after that first 2 minutes they were inseparable...constantly licking and grooming each other...RJ would go down and bring up furla's fruit to her in the tent...he steps aside when she comes down for her hpw...so gentleman... wub.gif

so glad i could share this info with my SG lovers...thanks so much for your guidance and expertise...
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mine was intro in just under 3 day... thought it took me long enough. mana tau, need more time one...

very soon baby will come along. hahaha
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hi..it has been ages since i log in to dis forum..LOL
currently.. im facing one pblem wif my sg
whereby since i bought wodent wheel for her
she seems like to pee n poo in the wheel...
as she kept running in it..the pee n poo will mask her body
.. she's stinky n the cage also stinks!

how im gonna solve dis pblem..?? sumbody pls help me...hoho
what i do now, everyday when i cme back from work, i'll wash the wheel.. icon_question.gif


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Is really normal for glider to pee poo when they running on the wheel. So what we do is wash the wheel every 2-3 days.. Then wipe their body regularly...

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hello everyone..nice pictures of your suggies..i baru balik from kampung...my relatives love my 2 boys very much..at least they got use to ppl handling them already and was happy to explore each and everyone who held them..thank god no suggies were harmed from the firecrakers and fireworks sounds throught the 3 days of CNY..haha
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 16 2010, 11:02 PM)
hello everyone..nice pictures of your suggies..i baru balik from kampung...my relatives love my 2 boys very much..at least they got use to ppl handling them already and was happy to explore each and everyone who held them..thank god no suggies were harmed from the firecrakers and fireworks sounds throught the 3 days of CNY..haha
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so soon? haha. i'll only be back on fri D:
My relatives love Crislyn too, especially the younger ones. haha !! but I doubt Crislyn likes them as she's got to wake up halfway. lol!
It's hard to keep her away when toddlers go "I want to see!! I want to see!! .... " for a whole hour. That was the first few days, it's better now since the rest already seen her and Crislyn could finally rest O: lol!
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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Feb 16 2010, 11:52 PM)
so soon? haha. i'll only be back on fri D:
My relatives love Crislyn too, especially the younger ones. haha !! but I doubt Crislyn likes them as she's got to wake up halfway. lol!
It's hard to keep her away when toddlers go "I want to see!! I want to see!! .... " for a whole hour. That was the first few days, it's better now since the rest already seen her and Crislyn could finally rest O: lol!
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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Feb 16 2010, 11:52 PM)
so soon? haha. i'll only be back on fri D:
My relatives love Crislyn too, especially the younger ones. haha !! but I doubt Crislyn likes them as she's got to wake up halfway. lol!
It's hard to keep her away when toddlers go "I want to see!! I want to see!! .... " for a whole hour. That was the first few days, it's better now since the rest already seen her and Crislyn could finally rest O: lol!
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better be careful...
gliders can die of exhaustion....
let them get enough sleep...
if u wake them too much, they dun get enuff rest..
they can die...
how i know?
that happened to me 5 years back...
my male died of exhaustion...
my 1st male glider....
sigh....

anyway, i haven't wish all of u here yet
HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR & HAPPY HOLIDAY!!!! rclxm9.gif
cheers!!
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 17 2010, 12:50 AM)
wah ur kampung got internet..mine dont have..now in ipoh came back from sitiawan(mom's kampung)..going back to kl on friday also..yea lor the todlers interested to see new things..but lucky oni one young kid in my family this year only...not a todler la..but still i jaga them very carefully even adults coz they dont have experience handling sg
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haha. I never let anyone handle them cause Crislyn would most probably jump off and all. Only let them pet her. haha (:

QUOTE(jitshiong @ Feb 17 2010, 01:56 AM)
better be careful...
gliders can die of exhaustion....
let them get enough sleep...
if u wake them too much, they dun get enuff rest..
they can die...
how i know?
that happened to me 5 years back...
my male died of exhaustion...
my 1st male glider....
sigh....

anyway, i haven't wish all of u here yet
HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR & HAPPY HOLIDAY!!!! rclxm9.gif
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owhh.. okay, thanks for the tip (: First day wake her about 2/3 times, after that 2nd day only once. Today never brought her out, let her rest at home biggrin.gif



): my grandma's hse now a lot mosquito, scared bite her. Every night b4 tidur must go kill all the mosquito i found near her cage first O:
Since her cage is black and a lil darker, mosquitoes tend to linger there. D:
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Hye... i need a favor.. who doing suggie boarding?..I know Pet shack have this services but i want to bording my sg on Thursday night till monday.. On monday i will take back my sg.. but pet shack close on Monday..
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Hye... i need a favor.. who doing suggie boarding?..I know Pet shack have this services but i want to bording my sg on Thursday night till monday.. On monday i will take back my sg.. but pet shack close on Monday..
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QUOTE(echah83 @ Feb 17 2010, 12:52 PM)
Hye... i need a favor.. who doing suggie boarding?..I know Pet shack have this services but i want to bording my sg on Thursday night till monday.. On monday i will take back my sg.. but pet shack close on Monday..
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crazymouse_yyh - Hun does boarding biggrin.gifD She help took care of Crislyn while I was on holiday end of last year.

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@jolenelarhhs / emino,

Thanks guys..
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i can help u jaga since i'm having holiday now but I'm not in KL..oni in KL on Friday..so can't help u bro


Added on February 17, 2010, 5:02 pmas i was saying last time that the *** pet shop in Ipoh was not going to have any suggie for sale anymore...and that ipoh didn't have any sg food and supplements

well after i posted out on the thread..i found out today that the pet shop has Bugsy products now..probably made a deal with petshack since petshack is the distributor..hence, sad to say that the joeys are back on sale.the sg are displayed in the small cage sleeping in hamster houses and coconuts...worse is that they are fed with kuachi and cat food mix with some hamster food...
it is good that they provide glider products even wodent wheel and pouches to buyers even thought the price is much higher than buying online but they are not giving their suggies the right treatment and right cage for sale..when i asked why they are giving cat food since they have proper food already..they just point to each other hoping others to take the blame..

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hye
i just brought my first sg yesterday..
it about 2 month female glider..
i trying to hold her ...
but when i wan to give my hand she look like afraid n bark and trying to bite me..
same situation when i try to feed her with food using my hand...
i felt afraid to really touch her..
how should i do..
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r u sure its barking? or crabbing? u should left her alone for at least 2 days, let her get comfortable with her new surrounding. she is still scared and feel unprotected.
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i dont know the the sound is crabbing or bark..
but she will make sound when i try to feed her..


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for 1st suggie..u can refer this link to me its a good guide..

http://suggiesathome.com/2010/02/08/your-1st-joey/
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 10 2010, 10:11 PM)
Hoho..luckily i got 2 exploranium standby at my hometown d...

Talk bout ang pow, last year my gliders did receive ang pow from my parents, grandparents, sisters, and relatives... I hang a red pouch at their cage, so when ppl visit, they put the angpow in the pouch..

Good also..contribute bit for their supplements and food..
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too bad,my mom wants me to get rid of my glider~ sad.gif

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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 17 2010, 04:48 PM)
as i was saying last time that the *** pet shop in Ipoh was not going to have any suggie for sale anymore...and that ipoh didn't have any sg food and supplements

well after i posted out on the thread..i found out today that the pet shop has Bugsy products now..probably made a deal with petshack since petshack is the distributor..hence, sad to say that the joeys  are back on sale.the sg are displayed in the small cage sleeping in hamster houses and coconuts...worse is that they are fed with kuachi and cat food mix with some hamster food...
it is good that they provide glider products even wodent wheel and pouches to buyers even thought the price is much higher than buying online but they are not giving their suggies the right treatment and right cage for sale..when i asked why they are giving cat food since they have proper food already..they just point to each other hoping others to take the blame..
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Anyway, you can see kinda a lot petshops are selling BUGSY products already. And i think this is a good thing because BUGSY is a reputable and good brand. Unlike last time, market flooded with fake and imitate products...

Talk bout price, it's really up to the shop to mark up their price because people are running their business. If you wan to get it cheap, then come down to KL to save the few dollars.

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i dont know the the sound is crabbing or bark..
but she will make sound when i try to feed her..
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I guess it's crabbing, because she feels insecure with u yet.
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Anyway, you can see kinda a lot petshops are selling BUGSY products already. And i think this is a good thing because BUGSY is a reputable and good brand. Unlike last time, market flooded with fake and imitate products...

Talk bout price, it's really up to the shop to mark up their price because people are running their business. If you wan to get it cheap, then come down to KL to save the few dollars.

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omy my joey male glider just jump from my shoulder to my salt water aquarium  doh.gif  n he was like swiming real fast, quickly pick him up n wash him
wth tap water for awhile wipe it wth dry cloth  sweat.gif  hope he ll be  ok ''' any  icon_question.gif  suggestion frm fellow bro ss here TQ
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get a aquarium cover...take ur sg out to a glider proof room when u play with it..

sg cant swim he was probably struggling instead of swimming..since it is salt water maybe u can offer him a drink of water..

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get a aquarium cover...take ur sg out to a glider proof room when u play with it..

sg cant swim he was probably struggling instead of swimming..since it is salt water maybe u can offer him a drink of water..
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tito looks fine this morning but more crabbing '' yea will play wth him in a glider proof room onwards since normally we don fully cover the aquarium wth marine fishess. TQ

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wah not bad your cage deco..good job for first timer.so many things le..do u have enough space for them to hop around in the cage?.hey your water bottle hang so weird wan...haha..i hang mine outside only the nozle is inside...if u hand this way the glider might play with it and the bottle drop then got no water to drink

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wah not bad your cage deco..good job for first timer.so many things le..do u have enough space for them to hop around in the cage?.hey your water bottle hang so weird wan...haha..i hang mine outside only the nozle is inside...if u hand this way the glider might play with it and the bottle drop then got no water to drink
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You're right lol, i havent seen them play with the bottle though.. for now. I hung it at that angle, cuz it keeps dripping water at a normal angle. I dunno why? Should try your way wink.gif
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You're right lol, i havent seen them play with the bottle though.. for now. I hung it at that angle, cuz it keeps dripping water at a normal angle. I dunno why? Should try your way wink.gif
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no problem just giving my opinion only..will drip wan la most of the time coz ur sg plays the wheel then the whole cage vibrate cause the water to drip...
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no problem just giving my opinion only..will drip wan la most of the time coz ur sg plays the wheel then the whole cage vibrate cause the water to drip...
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Hye.. Quick question..it's true that Male glider need a companion..cannot live alone ?..coz today i'll bring my sg to vet and doc jenny said that male glider need a friend and cannot live alone..coz the sg can self multilate if he dont have partner even u already neuter him..wah i'm so scared..i need to find him a partner..
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he's not ALONE if u r there for him every night for 2-3 hours...everynight
hehehe, if u can't provide playtime with him, then it's better to have a partner...
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well i think Dr jenny don't mean partner as in mate...u can also find another male partner for your sg as a companion...just need proper introduction...like jitshiong says if u spend enough time with them i think they are ok being single glider..in the wild they are in colonies
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You're right lol, i havent seen them play with the bottle though.. for now. I hung it at that angle, cuz it keeps dripping water at a normal angle. I dunno why? Should try your way wink.gif
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Those bottles drip like crazy coz it lacks of a spring in it. Get a double ball metal tip bottle or one with a spring in it. The best bottle is Critter Canteen. Another one I have has double metal balls in the tip, no dripping too. I'll get the name of the brand for you.

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Hye.. Quick question..it's true that Male glider need a companion..cannot live alone ?..coz today i'll bring my sg to vet and doc jenny said that male glider need a friend and cannot live alone..coz the sg can self multilate if he dont have partner even u already neuter him..wah i'm so scared..i need to find him a partner..
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Not to say companion as in opposite sex. What she has seen is that many SINGLE male gliders tend to self mutilate their penis. SINGLE females will also self mutilate but more on their tails. It is not linked to sexual desire. It is depression from being ALONE. So if you have a single glider and neglect him or her, no play time and bonding time, then there is a 50% chance he or she will self mutilate, be it the penis or leg or tail. Favourite parts are of course the penis and tail.
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Those bottles drip like crazy coz it lacks of a spring in it. Get a double ball metal tip bottle or one with a spring in it. The best bottle is Critter Canteen. Another one I have has double metal balls in the tip, no dripping too. I'll get the name of the brand for you.
oh..i should get it too...do tell us the brand of the non drip ones
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That one is under WILD brand rite? The japanese brand?
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Guys... i had a question regarding of how to know whether is my sg tame anot? He ok & fine when playing, catching, rubbing. but when usually de 1st time i take it out it always crab & wanted to bite... so i would use a pen to rub on it to cool it down 1st den i would take it out for a play. so is tis call tame or? And another question... how to actually speed up the bonding process with me n de sg in de good way. tq...
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That one is under WILD brand rite? The japanese brand?
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Guys... i had a question regarding of how to know whether is my sg tame anot? He ok & fine when playing, catching, rubbing. but when usually de 1st time i take it out it always crab & wanted to bite... so i would use a pen to rub on it to  cool it down 1st den i would take it out for a play. so is tis call tame or? And another question... how to actually speed up the bonding process with me n de sg in de good way. tq...
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Your glider is tame, just it has not trusted you yet.

Carry in a bonding pouch. And while in the pouch, rub him and touch the pouch often. Your glider needs more handling. If you do not make him understand your touch and keep using the pen instead of your hands, it won't bond properly with you.

Why it crabs and sounds defensive? Is because it is annoyed, scared and uncomfortable with the way you taking it out. Do not put your hand inside the pouches when you want to take it out. This causes them to be protective and feel like a predator attacking it. So always gently ease your glider out of a pouch by pushing it out, like how you push out tooth paste a bit.
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i have a heart breaking news.. my baby got stolen 3 days ago.. my house gate was left open.. i wouldnt want to believe at first.. it has also been 3 days crying non stop.. and 3 days searching for her.. then i realised that was has happened, can never be change again.. and i am still sad till now.. my mom said she will buy me a new one, but somethings can never be replaced
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awww.. if u want to, i'm willing to take.. since my baby need a friend and sometimes i'm afaid she's lonely
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Guys... i had a question regarding of how to know whether is my sg tame anot? He ok & fine when playing, catching, rubbing. but when usually de 1st time i take it out it always crab & wanted to bite... so i would use a pen to rub on it to  cool it down 1st den i would take it out for a play. so is tis call tame or? And another question... how to actually speed up the bonding process with me n de sg in de good way. tq...
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i have a heart breaking news.. my baby got stolen 3 days ago.. my house gate was left open.. i wouldnt want to believe at first.. it has also been 3 days crying non stop.. and 3 days searching for her.. then i realised that was has happened, can never be change again.. and i am still sad till now.. my mom said she will buy me a new one, but somethings can never be replaced
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QUOTE(Devil Boo @ Feb 21 2010, 10:33 AM)
i have a heart breaking news.. my baby got stolen 3 days ago.. my house gate was left open.. i wouldnt want to believe at first.. it has also been 3 days crying non stop.. and 3 days searching for her.. then i realised that was has happened, can never be change again.. and i am still sad till now.. my mom said she will buy me a new one, but somethings can never be replaced
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Sorry to hear that.

But, i am wondering... u mean ur glider stolen or escaped? If stolen, why the thief will steal the glider but not other valuable items?
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Those bottles drip like crazy coz it lacks of a spring in it. Get a double ball metal tip bottle or one with a spring in it. The best bottle is Critter Canteen. Another one I have has double metal balls in the tip, no dripping too. I'll get the name of the brand for you.
Not to say companion as in opposite sex. What she has seen is that many SINGLE male gliders tend to self mutilate their penis. SINGLE females will also self mutilate but more on their tails. It is not linked to sexual desire. It is depression from being ALONE. So if you have a single glider and neglect him or her, no play time and bonding time, then there is a 50% chance he or she will self mutilate, be it the penis or leg or tail. Favourite parts are of course the penis and tail.
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Thanks, i really think i need to change mine smile.gif
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QUOTE(Devil Boo @ Feb 21 2010, 10:33 AM)
i have a heart breaking news.. my baby got stolen 3 days ago.. my house gate was left open.. i wouldnt want to believe at first.. it has also been 3 days crying non stop.. and 3 days searching for her.. then i realised that was has happened, can never be change again.. and i am still sad till now.. my mom said she will buy me a new one, but somethings can never be replaced
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Stolen glider.... shakehead.gif Your house other valueable thing not get stolen? just the gliders?
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QUOTE(Devil Boo @ Feb 21 2010, 11:33 AM)
i have a heart breaking news.. my baby got stolen 3 days ago.. my house gate was left open.. i wouldnt want to believe at first.. it has also been 3 days crying non stop.. and 3 days searching for her.. then i realised that was has happened, can never be change again.. and i am still sad till now.. my mom said she will buy me a new one, but somethings can never be replaced
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STOLEN!!!! where did u keep ur glider outside of the house at the porch??? why would ppl steal glider for? shakehead.gif
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i kept her outside my porch.. well, it's weird though.. it happened in the evening.. but at my area, they usually only steal sleepers.. now, since u guys mention about escape, it makes me think.. luna hates staying in the cage
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if let say she escape u must didnt keep the door close properly rite?? and y did u keep her at ur porch and not inside the house?
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erm...wt does she means whn she purr while sleeping on me after hving her HPW ? hmm.gif

her bottom white part getting round , is she too full or too fat ? shd i feed her lesser ?

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erm...wt does she means whn she purr while sleeping on me after hving her HPW ?  hmm.gif 

her bottom white part getting round , is she too full ?  shd i feed her lesser ?

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purr or sometimes with soft barks(very faint) means she's showing her happiness..just like a cat...

sg dont over feed themselves..so i dont think it's necessary to reduce her food as long as u give right ratio..we give the right ratio so that they don't over dose in a certain compound/supplement like protein/vitamin/mineral..if she eats a balance diet by all means let her eat to her heart content..lets say the diet is high in sugar then she might be obese..so just keep a balance diet will do...joeys need a lot of food to grow...maybe u can feed in 2 portions one in morning/afternoon and night time since babies are ment to eat more frequent then adults..
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purr or sometimes with soft barks(very faint) means she's showing her happiness..just like a cat...

sg dont over feed themselves..so i dont think it's necessary to reduce her food as long as u give right ratio..we give the right ratio so that they don't over dose in a certain compound/supplement like protein/vitamin/mineral..if she eats a balance diet by all means let her eat to her heart content..lets say the diet is high in sugar then she might be obese..so just keep a balance diet will do...joeys need a lot of food to grow...maybe u can feed in 2 portions one in morning/afternoon and night time since babies are ment to eat more frequent then adults..
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she grows fatter and the stomach getting round bt the length still the same .... sad.gif Is it normal or nt ? n she's less active nw.....
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she grows fatter and the stomach getting round bt the length still the same ....  sad.gif Is it normal or nt ? n she's less active nw.....
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can u show us picture...i'm afraid it might be because of bloating...how old is your suggie?if she is too young i think u should give milk replacer instead of hpw...
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less active???

can u show us picture...i'm afraid it might be because of bloating...how old is your suggie?if she is too young i think u should give milk replacer instead of hpw...
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she's 3mth ++ ......

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I like the last picture !!! So cute x] I couldn't get a picture of Crislyn like that though D:
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Your glider doesn't look like a healthy 3 mth+ old glider, it looks malnourished.

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reanne..is the stomach bloated because of indigestion? i'm not to sure about this..but i was helping a friend with rejected joey and i read about being bloated since they are too young to take adult glider food..
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any1 noe how to tell age of a glider,i have no idea how old mine is
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best if u ask your seller...they should be honest and tell u when they oop...
if by showing us pictures..experience breeders can estimate how old is your sg
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Your glider doesn't look like a healthy 3 mth+ old glider, it looks malnourished.
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wt shd i do thn ? she's currently on HPW , glider-booster , acacia gum , gliderade , fruits n vege.....

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I like the last picture !!! So cute x] I couldn't get a picture of Crislyn like that though D:
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yah,i got it as a gift,coz the previous owner didnt want it.
gonna bring them to vet,hope vet can tell me age.
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Aiyayai OMG...
those babies are less than 1 month out of pouch..too young..they still need their parent...their tails are not fluffy yet...u can compare with the growth chart on pg1 that eric put up for refference..

please do get milk replacer for them...
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so where can i get milk replacers?
what else do i need to do to ensure their survival.
btw,i heard underage sg cannot live long.
blink.gif OMG.i better start digging two small graves

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so where can i get milk replacers?
what else do i need to do to ensure their survival.
btw,i heard underage sg cannot live long.
blink.gif  OMG.i better start digging two small graves
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what is wrong with you? start digging graves for them? i don't care if you are just making a joke - that is a pretty insensitive thing to say! you should bear the responsibility of their survival. make sure that they are warm and be prepared to keep an eye on them 24/7. their survival depends on YOU.

here's something to help them: http://www.suzsugargliders.com/handraisingajoey.htm

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Doesn't look like a healthy 3month to me. Looks around 2 months, but then the belly size is disturbing. Your joey may be suffering from bloating. Did you get from a proper breeder? Coz some sellers these days buy joeys that are underage and then handfeed milk. The milk, which is cow's milk or goat's milk cannot be digested properly, causing gas build up. So it could be your joey got some gut problem. None of my joeys have such a tummy. Better bring her for a check up. Or it could also be a parasite problem. This one you need a vet to check.

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OMG.... they are super underage. Please please read the link babyvey gave you.

You shouldn't take this lightly. You have to be responsible like a real mother now and do all you can to save them.
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hye guyz,just wanna inform my Tweedledee is now 8 weeks OOP,
she's fully weaned by now,her tail so fluffy and she likes jumping around,
frickkin notty.All thanks to HPW and Wombaroo goodness.

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If her stomach is still bloated even when she hasn't eaten anything, she could have a bad case of indigestion or bloat. Bring to the vet asap.

Armand, if you really care for them and be patient with lots of TLC, they can make it so no need to dig graves just yet. Go get milk replacer, make sure you keep them warm. They look barely 3 weeks oop. 3 weeks oop still can survive if you are willing to put effort. It's those that are below 2 weeks oop that may not survive without the parents.
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lol..sorry for the grave statement.
ok,i will read all i can.
bring them to vet.
and i will ensure their survival.
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lol..sorry for the grave statement.
ok,i will read all i can.
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You can do it!

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alriteee..
first thing tomorow go vet.then well see how.
cheers guys~
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i'll bring her 2 the vet tis weekend whn i go bk 2 hm twn as malacca couldn't find any vet .... sad.gif

Hope she'll b fine ..

Thz all smile.gif
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sorry no clearer pic,
so how old are they?? rclxms.gif
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Where is ur location? As in my signature, please contact me thru sms if during working hours.. As i cant answer the call from u. Better smses first to clarify what u have been missing or lack of knowledge bout nursing ur pityful joeys.

After 11am till 12.15pm, i am free. U can call me that time. I can help u by giving u some advise.

I live in subang jaya, incase u r wondering k.

Just to help u, by talking to u directly thru handphone. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(armand_adli @ Feb 22 2010, 10:41 PM)
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good god... they look so young, better get some advice from the experts, for sure they can help you.. i dun think dat age they can eat solid food and please bring them to vet (the one who can really, really treat suggie) for a check up..

i pray for their survival..
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armand_adli : They look underage as wat others say, better get Wombaroo Possum Milk Replacer for them. There are lots of experts over here, i'm sure they are willing to help. Wish u and ur gliders all the best smile.gif
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want to ask,my male already 4 month now..
and i can see his testicle..
but he don't have bald spot on head yet
is it normal?
i want to know if my male matured or not
coz i'm planning to neuter him next month.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(dreak89 @ Feb 23 2010, 11:10 AM)
hye all biggrin.gif
long time did not post here
want to ask,my male already 4 month now..
and i can see his testicle..
but he don't have bald spot on head yet
is it normal?
i want to know if my male matured or not
coz i'm planning to neuter him next month.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Probably not yet reach sexual maturity.. maybe his hormones are slowly developing now smile.gif
I would not say that there is a problem with not having a bald spot.. Just give it more time k laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Feb 23 2010, 12:21 PM)
Probably not yet reach sexual maturity.. maybe his hormones are slowly developing now smile.gif
I would not say that there is a problem with not having a bald spot.. Just give it more time k  laugh.gif
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some males gliders don't have visible bald spots..mine their bald spots are slightly visible when they are about 6-7 months old..then i took them for neutering
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 23 2010, 01:39 PM)
some males gliders don't have visible bald spots..mine their bald spots are slightly visible when they are about 6-7 months old..then i took them for neutering
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really??
hopefully mine dont have visible bald spot 2..
i dun like him become botak sad.gif

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well if u dun want botak then u neuter him lor..when they mature will have strong odour also..neutering will reduce the smell a lot
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alriteee..
first thing tomorow go vet.then well see how.
cheers guys~
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make sure u change their pouch very very often... the best is everyday. and clean them using baby wipes everyday because underage joeys can't take care of themselves. So you are their parent now, cleaning them and feeding them. Good luck. May god Bless the babies. Please sms Kelvin when u are free, i'm sure he can help you alot!
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QUOTE(dreak89 @ Feb 23 2010, 11:10 AM)
hye all biggrin.gif
long time did not post here
want to ask,my male already 4 month now..
and i can see his testicle..
but he don't have bald spot on head yet
is it normal?
i want to know if my male matured or not
coz i'm planning to neuter him next month.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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if you don't have a female, the bald spot may not be as obvious as those males that are paired with a female.
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QUOTE(babyvey @ Feb 23 2010, 04:06 PM)
if you don't have a female, the bald spot may not be as obvious as those males that are paired with a female.
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actually,i buy a pair glider..and i'm afraid both of them are twin..
that's why i want to neuter the male..

i found one vet in penang,told me he can do neuter male glider..
he also work with zoo before n want to look at my glider first to make sure it is ready or not.
can i trust him?? hmm.gif
he seems like have an experience with suggy.. smile.gif

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Hi guys,
newbie here..
Want ask about SG diet..
How to balance the diet?
Based on my reading, they need 75% fruit+veggie and 25% meat..
As an extra information, i do breed cricket and king mealworm for my tarantula..
The problem is how to ensure the ratio is right? Still blur blur..
Yes,i do read the PDF table from 1st page..

By the way my SG is adult female approx. 1 years old. Izit ok to adopt mature SG?
Will take her next week..

Please help me as Im in love with SG since 3 years back.Just now got the chance and Im afraid i will not be able to serve the right food for her.

Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Feb 23 2010, 03:24 PM)
make sure u change their pouch very very often... the best is everyday. and clean them using baby wipes everyday because underage joeys can't take care of themselves. So you are their parent now, cleaning them and feeding them. Good luck. May god Bless the babies. Please sms Kelvin when u are free, i'm sure he can help you alot!
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In my opinion.. i would not change the pouch to often. Well at least not daily tongue.gif i change mine every 5 days now.. sometimes a week baru tukar.. Because they are so accustomed to the scent that is on the pouch~ later if change too often, they will always need to get accustom to a new pouch smell. I experienced before that my suggies rather sleep outside in the bowl rather than the pouch cuz the pouch doesnt have his smell. doh.gif

QUOTE(dreak89 @ Feb 23 2010, 04:19 PM)
actually,i buy a pair glider..and i'm afraid both of them are twin..
that's why i want to neuter the male..

i found one vet in penang,told me he can do neuter male glider..
he also work with zoo before n want to look at my glider first to make sure it is ready or not.
can i trust him?? hmm.gif
he seems like have an experience with suggy.. smile.gif
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Perhaps u can get reference from him, if he did any neutering in the past. If not just come take a drive to KL and neuter your glider at Hands n Paws.

QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 23 2010, 05:50 PM)
Hi guys,
newbie here..
Want ask about SG diet..
How to balance the diet?
Based on my reading, they need 75% fruit+veggie and 25% meat..
As an extra information, i do breed cricket and king mealworm for my tarantula..
The problem is how to ensure the ratio is right? Still blur blur..
Yes,i do read the PDF table from 1st page..

By the way my SG is adult female approx. 1 years old. Izit ok to adopt mature SG?
Will take her next week..

Please help me as Im in love with SG since 3 years back.Just now got the chance and Im afraid i will not be able to serve the right food for her.

Thanks in advance.
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A balance diet for me would be HPW. But there is actually a few more which u can choose from. Fruits and veges should be accompanied with that balanced diet smile.gif the mealworms are just treated as treats for your suggies if you feed on HPW. If you check the Cal : ph ratio table, you can see what kind of fruits and veges you can balance out when feeding. Just remember.. too much phos are not good XD Please remember depending solely on fruits and veges~ is a nono. Get at least 1 stable diet like HPW or BML or other diets.

You can view some discussion here at Suggie Nutrition 101 = http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=800472&hl=

Adopting mature SGs will require more time on bonding if the glider isnt tame. Is this gonna be your first glider? If it is, i hope you are a patient person tongue.gif else get a joey wink.gif

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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Feb 23 2010, 06:25 PM)
A balance diet for me would be HPW. But there is actually a few more which u can choose from. Fruits and veges should be accompanied with that balanced diet smile.gif the mealworms are just treated as treats for your suggies if you feed on HPW. If you check the Cal : ph ratio table, you can see what kind of fruits and veges you can balance out when feeding. Just remember.. too much phos are not good XD Please remember depending solely on fruits and veges~ is a nono. Get at least 1 stable diet like HPW or BML or other diets.

You can view some discussion here at Suggie Nutrition 101 = http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=800472&hl=

Adopting mature SGs will require more time on bonding if the glider isnt tame. Is this gonna be your first glider? If it is, i hope you are a patient person tongue.gif else get a joey wink.gif
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thanks for the reply. Looking forward for it.. smile.gif

So far she doesn't look very tame. How long will it take to tame it? I might play with her most of my time since all my tarantula are aggresive type tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 23 2010, 06:55 PM)
thanks for the reply. Looking forward for it..  smile.gif

So far she doesn't look very tame. How long will it take to tame it? I might play with her most of my time since all my tarantula are aggresive type  tongue.gif
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My first wild glider took me 4 months to get her to trust me. She STILL bites me occasionally XD it depends on the glider too.. sometimes they can adapt fast.. some may take longer. Dont let it discourage you, keep bonding tho nod.gif
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lol,ok kelvin.
thanks for all ur help.
getting the hang of it.
i have purchased milk replacers for them, feeding them bit by bit,but they dont like it.
tomorow im taking them to the vet at aman suria.


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Hello sg expert! I recently adopted 2 sg last friday in kl and melaka. Im in johor btw..
I have a problem with one of the joey. Its a female and 4 weeks oop. The trouble is she seems not eating well. She eats some of the baby food(pear) buy only from ny finget and licked off some of the apple slices but not so much. She doesnt even touch the hpw diet i made with some fruits slices and vegs..
Im getting worried here.. What should i do?
Thanks!
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QUOTE(djazmy @ Feb 23 2010, 11:00 PM)
Hello sg expert! I recently adopted 2 sg last friday in kl and melaka. Im in johor btw..
I have a problem with one of the joey. Its a female and 4 weeks oop. The trouble is she seems not eating well. She eats some of the baby food(pear) buy only from ny finget and licked off some of the apple slices but not so much. She doesnt even touch the hpw diet i made with some fruits slices and vegs..
Im getting worried here.. What should i do?
Thanks!
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Hi djazmy, of coz u r to be worried. Coz the female joey is supposed to be still nursing with the mother for another month. It has not learnt to eat solid food yet at this time.

As for whoever that might be posting and asking again, joeys that are underaged or bought earlier than 2 months OOP, shud be handfeed with Wombaroo Milk Replacer or Pet's Own Milk.

And again to remind those who doesnt understand the terms OUT OF POUCH or it's shortform OOP : please take ur time to digest this.

Glider pregnant for 16days. Then give birth to joey(s) the size of a rice grain. The joey(s) will crawl into the mom's pouch and nurse for 2 months in the pouch, this is the time the joey(s) also known as IN POUCH or IP joey(s). Becoz of the joey(s) keep growing and wont fit inside the pouch anymore, joey(s) will be nursing for another 2 months outside the pouch. This is known as OUT OF POUCH or OOP.

So the safest age to get joey(s), is when the age is 2 months OUT OF POUCH. This also means the age is the same as 4 months old from birth (if u r so lucky like me to see glider gave birth THREE times with own eyes).

Why 4 months? answer = 2 months IP + 2 months OOP.

Any joey(s) being bought/underaged shud be fed with those i said on the above.

Cheers
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djazmy,we suffer the same problem.
its ok,all the peeps here are really helpful.
ull get thru it.
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Wow.. so many underaged gliders lately... The earlier you adjusted back to the proper diet and housing, then the bigger chance they can survive. My Money used to be very underaged, but now she is doing really fine. biggrin.gif Thanks to BUGSY products.

Again, it's pretty normal for underaged joey for not eating much solid food or even HPW. Because they are in weak condition, their body and stomach still developing and not ready to take that kind of food yet. Go for milk replacer, it's more digestible for underaged joey.

Met amanda today, i guess his gliders will be fine, because at least i can see he putting effort in learning how to take care of the gliders. biggrin.gif

Keep it up ~~
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QUOTE(dreak89 @ Feb 23 2010, 11:10 AM)
hye all biggrin.gif
long time did not post here
want to ask,my male already 4 month now..
and i can see his testicle..
but he don't have bald spot on head yet
is it normal?
i want to know if my male matured or not
coz i'm planning to neuter him next month.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Normally males start showing their bald spot at around mid of 5 months to 6 months old but it is not very obvious. If you have a female, it will become obvious at around 6 months plus.

According to Dr Jenny, a glider can be neutered as long as the testicle has dropped fully. Meaning the little furry scrotum is no longer sticking close to the body but hangs out a bit.

QUOTE(dreak89 @ Feb 23 2010, 04:19 PM)
actually,i buy a pair glider..and i'm afraid both of them are twin..
that's why i want to neuter the male..

i found one vet in penang,told me he can do neuter male glider..
he also work with zoo before n want to look at my glider first to make sure it is ready or not.
can i trust him?? hmm.gif
he seems like have an experience with suggy.. smile.gif
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Ask your vet some questions like how many gliders he has neutered. Many vets practice in zoos but then they don't really have a lot of knowledge on gliders because our zoos rarely have any. And your glider should be a healthy weight too.

QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 23 2010, 06:55 PM)
thanks for the reply. Looking forward for it..  smile.gif

So far she doesn't look very tame. How long will it take to tame it? I might play with her most of my time since all my tarantula are aggresive type  tongue.gif
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It will take time. You first need to gain her trust. Handfeed and do touching first, before you move on to handling. Step by step should be the key and avoid spooking and scaring your glider coz she can get scared easily. Adults that are not tame get scared easily.

QUOTE(armand_adli @ Feb 23 2010, 10:10 PM)
lol,ok kelvin.
thanks for all ur help.
getting the hang of it.
i have purchased milk replacers for them, feeding them bit by bit,but they dont like it.
tomorow im taking them to the vet at aman suria.
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Good good. Now keep them warm and give feeding every 2 hours. Should be fine.

QUOTE(djazmy @ Feb 23 2010, 11:00 PM)
Hello sg expert! I recently adopted 2 sg last friday in kl and melaka. Im in johor btw..
I have a problem with one of the joey. Its a female and 4 weeks oop. The trouble is she seems not eating well. She eats some of the baby food(pear) buy only from ny finget and licked off some of the apple slices but not so much. She doesnt even touch the hpw diet i made with some fruits slices and vegs..
Im getting worried here.. What should i do?
Thanks!
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Stop babyfood. Jar babyfood has little nutrition. It's just full of water, vitamin A and C. Babyfood will just make your glider full but not give it nutrition. You have to use a milk replacement. Get the joey milk replacement that is sold by petshack. You shouldn't be feeding solid food to underage joeys. Naturally joeys start eating solids at 6 weeks old. 4 weeks still too young to digest fruits and veggies properly and it can cause gas build up. Read the link babyvey previously posted. There is no short cuts. Also, underage joeys do not know how to feed themselves. So you shouldn't put a bowl and expect it to eat itself. A syringe or spoon should be used to coax a joey to eat. Underage joeys should be eating every 2 to 3 hours.

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Man, did i mess up here... I meant 8 weeks! Sorry for the misinformation.. The tail is already bushy by the way and she didnt try to eat solid food... Just like the above info but 8 weeks...
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QUOTE(djazmy @ Feb 24 2010, 01:00 AM)
Man, did i mess up here... I meant 8 weeks! Sorry for the misinformation.. The tail is already bushy by the way and she didnt try to eat solid food... Just like the above info but 8 weeks...
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That means she didn't wean properly from her mom. Could be she was forced and separated from her mom when she was underage. Coz joeys learn how to eat from their parents.

So you have to do like how we feed underage joeys. Coax her to eat by handfeed.
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Ok, will do! Thanks guys
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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Feb 23 2010, 06:25 PM)
In my opinion.. i would not change the pouch to often. Well at least not daily tongue.gif i change mine every 5 days now.. sometimes a week baru tukar.. Because they are so accustomed to the scent that is on the pouch~ later if change too often, they will always need to get accustom to a new pouch smell. I experienced before that my suggies rather sleep outside in the bowl rather than the pouch cuz the pouch doesnt have his smell. doh.gif
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Yes i did that with my others sg too wub.gif only change their pouch once a week. As changing everday is only my opinion on underage joeys cuz they cannot clean themselves and also don't know how to come out to poo and pee. So scare later their pouch full of their poo and pees after the 1st day >.< Cuz if pouch is not clean will have bacteria right?
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QUOTE(armand_adli @ Feb 23 2010, 11:55 PM)
djazmy,we suffer the same problem.
its ok,all the peeps here are really helpful.
ull get thru it.
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dude,

any update on your gliders? hope they are doing well...
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Yeah, I've bought their milk replacers and moved them to a nice 3ft cage. Bringing them to vet today. Well see what vet says.
Hope everything is alright. I'll update you guys asap.
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Feb 24 2010, 09:44 AM)
Yes i did that with my others sg too  wub.gif only change their pouch once a week. As changing everday is only my opinion on underage joeys cuz they cannot clean themselves and also don't know how to come out to poo and pee. So scare later their pouch full of their poo and pees after the 1st day >.< Cuz if pouch is not clean will have bacteria right?
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Yup that is true.. a very uncleaned environment for an SG can cause to different kinds of bacteria. nod.gif thats why you need to clean the cage with good anti bacterial solutions like germisep. Or dettol (lightly used). But as you know gliders they can groom themselves too wink.gif they clean their fur and everything biggrin.gif we just need to worry about the cage part. Food can be easily splattered all around lol. Later the ants also become interested in the leftovers~ shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 24 2010, 12:12 AM)
Wow.. so many underaged gliders lately... The earlier you adjusted back to the proper diet and housing, then the bigger chance they can survive. My Money used to be very underaged, but now she is doing really fine. biggrin.gif Thanks to BUGSY products.

Again, it's pretty normal for underaged joey for not eating much solid food or even HPW. Because they are in weak condition, their body and stomach still developing and not ready to take that kind of food yet. Go for milk replacer, it's more digestible for underaged joey.

Met amanda today, i guess his gliders will be fine, because at least i can see he putting effort in learning how to take care of the gliders. biggrin.gif

Keep it up ~~
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amanda doesnt refer to me does it??
coz im armand,amanda is a ladies name!!haha
thanks for help yesterday eric,
you da best! flex.gif
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Guys, question again
what happen to our SG if we didnt follow the diet that everyone use?
Any case example?
Sorry, noob question but better ask before it happen.
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QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 24 2010, 10:54 AM)
Guys, question again
what happen to our SG if we didnt follow the diet that everyone use?
Any case example?
Sorry, noob question but better ask before it happen.
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dont keep your self bound by that, they is many glider owner here who does not use ANY HPW, or any SPECIAL diet to they glider, they glider is in excellence shape. it just suggest that if those diet is good CHOISES, not a MUST.
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Thanks. Im afraid what will happen if i cannot afford to buy suggested diet. Guess i can change the diet everyday depending on their need and my wallet.. tongue.gif
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Yup that is true.. a very uncleaned environment for an SG can cause to different kinds of bacteria. nod.gif thats why you need to clean the cage with good anti bacterial solutions like germisep. Or dettol (lightly used). But as you know gliders they can groom themselves too wink.gif they clean their fur and everything biggrin.gif we just need to worry about the cage part. Food can be easily splattered all around lol. Later the ants also become interested in the leftovers~  shakehead.gif
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oh i see. got 1 thing that really bothers me. which is the insect that used to fly on the leftover food. look like the flys but abit smaller that 1. i dunno wat it calls. everytime i put their food there, on the 2nd day morning, sure got a few of the small flies on their leftover food. How can i get rid of that? Even after i clean their cage and spray all over the play, the little thing still go back. even i move their cage spot, from the toilet until my living room, still got @.@
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QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 24 2010, 10:54 AM)
Guys, question again
what happen to our SG if we didnt follow the diet that everyone use?
Any case example?
Sorry, noob question but better ask before it happen.
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A diet is a diet.. if you are given a diet.. would u just rather eat roti everyday? or would u rather have a good WHOLESOME meal, included with all the protein, vitamins to ensure that you are not gonna be damm thin.. or mal nutritioned. Ask yourself that. AS A GLIDER OWNER, clearly i want whats best for my gliders to ensure they grow up to in the most pink of health! I wouldnt say its a CHOICE, it is a MUST.. quite frankly!~ Having improper diet can cause a glider to get illneses like HLP (Hind leg paralysis), they could self multilate, bloat, indigestion.. they could even have other problems in the long run... i can drag this discussion very very long if i find my illness sheet.

TAKE NOTE that glider who have poor diet, appear to be more SCRAWNY, THIN, and WEAK if you compare with other gliders that have a GOOD AND STABLE diet. Gliders with a PROPER diet DO NOT smell as bad as gliders who does not have a proper diet. I suggest you go to Glidercentral and have a look around. THE VERY FIRST THING they take into consideration is DIET.. DIET DIET DIET.. because a glider with a proper diet and also proper lifestyle.. can live up to 14-15 years in captivity. Would u rather have a shorter lifespan glider? I think not.


QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 24 2010, 12:51 PM)
Thanks. Im afraid what will happen if i cannot afford to buy suggested diet. Guess i can change the diet everyday depending on their need and my wallet.. tongue.gif
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It was already said, having a glider isnt cheap~ it also COMES with other RESPONSIBILITIES on top of it~ think about vet trips too.. if your glider gets sick..
please read this- http://suggiesavers.org/donot.html

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Thanks. Im afraid what will happen if i cannot afford to buy suggested diet. Guess i can change the diet everyday depending on their need and my wallet.. tongue.gif
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Funny about this, since you SHOULD think about all this BEFORE buying/keeping a glider.
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Thanks. Im afraid what will happen if i cannot afford to buy suggested diet. Guess i can change the diet everyday depending on their need and my wallet.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Chinchillas @ Feb 24 2010, 12:25 PM)
dont keep your self bound by that, they is many glider owner here who does not use ANY HPW, or any SPECIAL diet to they glider, they glider is in excellence shape. it just suggest that if those diet is good CHOISES, not a MUST.
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Would you mind name me the 'many glider owners' that never use proper diet for their gliders and their gliders are in 'excellent' shape or tip top health condition?

We are here to share and educate new owner to give and provide PROPER diet and care for sugar gliders, not simply chunk some leftover fruits/yogurt/cat food/dog food/ or whatsoever self recipe to the gliders.


QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 24 2010, 12:51 PM)
Thanks. Im afraid what will happen if i cannot afford to buy suggested diet. Guess i can change the diet everyday depending on their need and my wallet.. tongue.gif
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If you really understand their need, then you should know a special formulated diet/recipe is NEEDED for their health sake.

If you always have tight budget, then don't keep gliders first until you are financially and mentally ready for the commitment.

SOrry ya, pls don feel offended.

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oh i see. got 1 thing that really bothers me. which is the insect that used to fly on the leftover food. look like the flys but abit smaller that 1. i dunno wat it calls. everytime i put their food there, on the 2nd day morning, sure got a few of the small flies on their leftover food. How can i get rid of that? Even after i clean their cage and spray all over the play, the little thing still go back. even i move their cage spot, from the toilet until my living room, still got @.@
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That is fruitflies... they are really irritating... go DIY shop or DAISO, selling something that helps to eliminate this small creature.

Or u can use shakeera's special method, take a container or milo tin, put one piece of banana skin inside, then cover the tin with plastic tightly, then poke few tiny hole..the flies will go in but cant come out.

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A diet is a diet.. if you are given a diet.. would u just rather eat roti everyday? or would u rather have a good WHOLESOME meal, included with all the protein, vitamins to ensure that you are not gonna be damm thin.. or mal nutritioned. Ask yourself that. AS A GLIDER OWNER, clearly i want whats best for my gliders to ensure they grow up to  in the most pink of health! I wouldnt say its a CHOICE, it is a MUST.. quite frankly!~ Having improper diet can cause a glider to get illneses like HLP (Hind leg paralysis), they could self multilate, bloat, indigestion.. they could even have other problems in the long run... i can drag this discussion very very long if i find my illness sheet.

TAKE NOTE that glider who have poor diet, appear to be more SCRAWNY, THIN, and WEAK if you compare with other gliders that have a GOOD AND STABLE diet. Gliders with a PROPER diet DO NOT smell as bad as gliders who does not have a proper diet. I suggest you go to Glidercentral and have a look around. THE VERY FIRST THING they take into consideration is DIET.. DIET DIET DIET.. because a glider with a proper diet and also proper lifestyle.. can live up to 14-15 years in captivity. Would u rather have a shorter lifespan glider? I think not.
It was already said, having a glider isnt cheap~ it also COMES with other RESPONSIBILITIES on top of it~ think about vet trips too.. if your glider gets sick..
please read this- http://suggiesavers.org/donot.html
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I personally experienced before la.. There are few gliders died before in my hand few years back because of dietary and housing issue. So, u should know how serious the impact is.

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good news,vet says their healthy joeys,6weeks oop.
so she says they need ALOT of rest and i have to keep them in their cage for another 2 weeks,feed them twice a day.and they will be fine.
they have outgrown their milk needs,so in 2 weeks time i will update you guys aite.
thanks for the support.

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good to hear about it...
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other than banana, any high fiber food for SG?
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other than banana, any high fiber food for SG?
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o__o I thought we ain't suppose to feed bananas to SG? High in phosphorus, no?
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yeap not suppose to feed bananas..i think he's just asking for alternatives for high fiber food..
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Yueyi : owhh.. icic. (:

Mm.. anyone knows if Pet Shack would be open on Friday? since it's a holiday, I'm not sure if it's a public holiday or a school holiday though. hehe tongue.gif


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it's a public holiday..i don't think it will be open.
did u get criscille yet?
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Nopes, not yet. I don't really know how to fix up the water bottle on the exoterra, the holes too small for the bottle's "mouth" to fit. So I plan to buy a bigger cage first and use that as Criscille's house (: Till I properly introduced Crislyn and Criscille, then they'll stay together in the bigger cage biggrin.gif
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why my sg upper body start from middle until near the tail turn into brown color...
it become more obvious day by day..
my sg now nearly 2 week with me.....
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@jolene

i put the bottle inside the exoterra since no choice to put outside..and i secure it with a few wires and i twist it to lock it in place and so that it's not easy to drop..i go one small round around the snout tightly before going around the body of the bottle..well hard to imagine without pictures..but an extra cage is good too for emergencies

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hey there, whats the best way to feed the joey with the replacement milk? She seems resisting to drink it from the syringe, not liking it
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@Yueyi

I think I understand what u mean. I believe u told me that before, but I bought a different kind of water bottle, this one is secured by some plastic screw thing and is heavier too. I had the regular bottle last time but it kinda got chewed up by my dog after washing it.

Hmm.. maybe i'll try if I could fix this bottle up in the exoterra n c. (: hehe. Might work too. biggrin.gif Anyways, I wanna visit PetShack and get some other stuff too x] heheh ! So, maybe will go on Sat or Sun if my parents are free.
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djazmy: wat i mostly heard is by using syringe, coz tat is the onli way. if i'm not wrong, coz by using syringe is the much easier way of feeding the joeys.
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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Feb 24 2010, 09:35 PM)
Yueyi : owhh.. icic.  (:

Mm.. anyone knows if Pet Shack would be open on Friday? since it's a holiday, I'm not sure if it's a public holiday or a school holiday though. hehe tongue.gif
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hey there, whats the best way to feed the joey with the replacement milk? She seems resisting to drink it from the syringe, not liking it
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U have to force feed by using syringe. If your glider can take solid fruit then can mix in fruits see whether she eat or not.. Or else blend with fruits also can...
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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Feb 24 2010, 02:42 PM)
A diet is a diet.. if you are given a diet.. would u just rather eat roti everyday? or would u rather have a good WHOLESOME meal, included with all the protein, vitamins to ensure that you are not gonna be damm thin.. or mal nutritioned. Ask yourself that. AS A GLIDER OWNER, clearly i want whats best for my gliders to ensure they grow up to  in the most pink of health! I wouldnt say its a CHOICE, it is a MUST.. quite frankly!~ Having improper diet can cause a glider to get illneses like HLP (Hind leg paralysis), they could self multilate, bloat, indigestion.. they could even have other problems in the long run... i can drag this discussion very very long if i find my illness sheet.
Thank you guys. As I mentioned before, I didn't buy it yet. Still searching and gain info from reading. My big problem is I don't have any freezer at the moment. To buy sliced fruit and veg everyday is very very costly. What am I trying to do now is to find another solution which doesn't hurt my wallet too much. Of course I want the best condition for it since I spend big amount of money for SG itself.

@emino : read before you post shakehead.gif

@eric138 : I realized the impact. Thanks for sharing your experience. rclxms.gif

Anyway im not rushing to get one. I've been in love with SG since 3 years before, but now just got offer from friend who want to migrate for futher study. I need freezer & do more research i guess
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QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 25 2010, 10:55 AM)
Thank you guys. As I mentioned before, I didn't buy it yet. Still searching and gain info from reading. My big problem is I don't have any freezer at the moment. To buy sliced fruit and veg everyday is very very costly. What am I trying to do now is to find another solution which doesn't hurt my wallet too much. Of course I want the best condition for it since I spend big amount of money for SG itself.

@emino : read before you post  shakehead.gif

@eric138 : I realized the impact. Thanks for sharing your experience.  rclxms.gif

Anyway im not rushing to get one. I've been in love with SG since 3 years before, but now just got offer from friend who want to migrate for futher study. I need freezer & do more research i guess
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It's good that you researched before getting the gliders.

There is alternative if u don hav freezer, use Bugsy Instant HPW, it's specially designed for those who don hav blender or freezer. What you need to do is jus mix the Instant HPW powder with honey and water every day.

If you keep one glider or two, it's better and cheaper if u buy cut fruits. u don hav to buy everyday. jus buy 3-4packets, then it can last you bout 3-4days too. Keep it in air tight container, can last longer. That's what i do last time when i keep a pair of glider.

But now since i got more already, what i do is i buy whole/half biji of different fruits and vege, then cut one shop then put in container. one container for vege, the other one for fruits... Very convenient, i jus scoop few tablespoon every night then can serve..save time save energy~
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QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 25 2010, 10:55 AM)
Thank you guys. As I mentioned before, I didn't buy it yet. Still searching and gain info from reading. My big problem is I don't have any freezer at the moment. To buy sliced fruit and veg everyday is very very costly. What am I trying to do now is to find another solution which doesn't hurt my wallet too much. Of course I want the best condition for it since I spend big amount of money for SG itself.

@emino : read before you post  shakehead.gif

@eric138 : I realized the impact. Thanks for sharing your experience.  rclxms.gif

Anyway im not rushing to get one. I've been in love with SG since 3 years before, but now just got offer from friend who want to migrate for futher study. I need freezer & do more research i guess
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I do read. You says if you dint have the money, can you compensate some balanced diet with something else.

The thing is, you should not say that at all. To keep a pet, you should always prepare yourself, whether if its in terms of knowledge, mental or financial. I have seen so many new faces comes in here, all excited about getting their glider then dumps them in the adoption thread or reselling it for various ridiculous reasons. Break up with gf lah, new gf dint like glider lah, budget lari lah, nak kawin lah... And so on and so forth.

If you're well prepared, non of the above statement should affect your glider whatsoever.

Unless of course when you said if you dont have enough money is when suddenly you went bankrupt or a fire burned down your house or a family member is gravely ill and you need to cover their medical bills, or something like that, when money is needed for more important thing, then yes, you can compensate the food with something else.

If you have a tight budget, or know that you will be on one, then dont get a glider. or any pet at all. you need to give the best since you're responsible for their lives now. That includes their medication, food, habitat and so on.

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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Feb 24 2010, 02:20 PM)
oh i see. got 1 thing that really bothers me. which is the insect that used to fly on the leftover food. look like the flys but abit smaller that 1. i dunno wat it calls. everytime i put their food there, on the 2nd day morning, sure got a few of the small flies on their leftover food. How can i get rid of that? Even after i clean their cage and spray all over the play, the little thing still go back. even i move their cage spot, from the toilet until my living room, still got @.@
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i also have the same problem since i moved them down to the kitchen...


QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 25 2010, 10:55 AM)
Thank you guys. As I mentioned before, I didn't buy it yet. Still searching and gain info from reading. My big problem is I don't have any freezer at the moment. To buy sliced fruit and veg everyday is very very costly. What am I trying to do now is to find another solution which doesn't hurt my wallet too much. Of course I want the best condition for it since I spend big amount of money for SG itself.

@emino : read before you post  shakehead.gif

@eric138 : I realized the impact. Thanks for sharing your experience.  rclxms.gif

Anyway im not rushing to get one. I've been in love with SG since 3 years before, but now just got offer from friend who want to migrate for futher study. I need freezer & do more research i guess
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you should realy reconsider as SG are not easy pets like hamsters. and i agree with other owners as they require alot of TLC as well as $$.
if under budget constrains and want to keep exotics, try gerbils or hedgehog as they take more dry staples. make sure u have the space also. u did mention that u dont have a freezer, so i assumed that ur staying out. hence may not have the required space. 3ft cage is not enough for them. as they are very active animals. so space is equally important.



in addition, diet wise, im not as strict as many gliders keepers here. a suggestion is that u can buy fruits on the way home for college and feed it to them. they do take fruits, so dont realy need those blended stuffs. i have a friend who did that. and feed hardboild egg with it.
as for me, i make random food for them. solid in the morning, slurp at night. i dont buy those HPW or other diet plans which cost a fortune. there are webpages where u can get the calcium/phosphorus ratio in fruits and vege. and PLEASE read the 1st page. alot of good reading materials for future keepers. even now i still read it as reference now and then.

@eric
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and can add me to the owner's list?
JJ, Female, DOArrival 20th oct 2008
BB, Male, DOArrival 25th oct 2009
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@Jcmf,

updated your name in the list d.

How many glider i HAD? erm.. if counts in all the gliders i kept years b4 and died..then total got bout 10-11.. Now got 5 with me... biggrin.gif

Actually glider supplement or diet is not that expensive.. For example, I'm using Bugsy HPW Diet..one batch of HPW with manuka honey & eggs will cost me bout RM60 only.. And it last for approx 4months if you keep one glider.. which is 2months if you keep a pair..

Of course, it will be cheaper if you use normal honey..
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 25 2010, 11:43 AM)
It's good that you researched before getting the gliders.

There is alternative if u don hav freezer, use Bugsy Instant HPW, it's specially designed for those who don hav  blender or freezer. What you need to do is jus mix the Instant HPW powder with honey and water every day.

If you keep one glider or two, it's better and cheaper if u buy cut fruits. u don hav to buy everyday. jus buy 3-4packets, then it can last you bout 3-4days too. Keep it in air tight container, can last longer. That's what i do last time when i keep a pair of glider.

But now since i got more already, what i do is i buy whole/half biji of different fruits and vege, then cut one shop then put in container. one container for vege, the other one for fruits... Very convenient, i jus scoop few tablespoon every night then can serve..save time save energy~
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Yup,read about Instant HPW. Good feedback by most of the user..
Air tight container, never think of it before. Thanks for your suggestion smile.gif

@emino : Sorry if u felt offended with my word. I do think more than that. Im not that lame. This is not just a hobby, its more to AMANAH for me.. My friend warned me about this before and he want me to keep him update with his SG. There is plenty of time to choose either im a suitable owner or not. Anyway thanks for remind me. Chill out buddy.. blush.gif

@jcmf : i see.. Thats what I think. Not compulsory to give as suggested all the time as long as the food contain everything they need. Thanks for it. I will read more other sources

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Yup,read about Instant HPW. Good feedback by most of the user..
Air tight container, never think of it before. Thanks for your suggestion smile.gif

@emino : Sorry if u felt offended with my word. I do think more than that. Im not that lame. This is not just a hobby, its more to AMANAH for me.. My friend warned me about this before and he want me to keep him update with his SG. There is plenty of time to choose either im a suitable owner or not. Anyway thanks for remind me. Chill out buddy..  blush.gif

@jcmf : i see.. Thats what I think. Not compulsory to give as suggested all the time as long as the food contain everything they need. Thanks for it. I will read more other sources
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Just remember a thing, feeding fruits and vege solely doesnt fulfill their dietary needs. Basically there is no single food that can provide 'everything' they need. You need to serve few things together to strive for the balance of diet. Just like HPW, it's daily supplement, but we still have to give fruits and vege together with it.
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Dear eric, did u cut fresh fruits everyday for ur sg? Or when u buy back the fruits, u cut all of them and u put it into a container and put it into the freezer? When u wan to make dinner for ur sg, u take out from the freezer?
I now using the 2nd method, wanna ask all of you there if it's ok to do. divide the fruits (already cut) into the ice cube tray. When it's frozen, i put it into a plactics and put into the freezer. When i wan to make dinner, i take out 1/2 cubes for each glider and i unfreeze it in the microwave. Wanna ask if anyone is doing the sameway as i do? I din't follow the frist method, which is cut fresh fruits everyday because sg eats very little, and sometimes the fruits left alot, that will be very waste.
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Feb 25 2010, 02:23 PM)
Dear eric, did u cut fresh fruits everyday for ur sg? Or when u buy back the fruits, u cut all of them and u put it into a container and put it into the freezer? When u wan to make dinner for ur sg, u take out from the freezer?
I now using the 2nd method, wanna ask all of you there if it's ok to do. divide the fruits (already cut) into the ice cube tray. When it's frozen, i put it into a plactics and put into the freezer. When i wan to make dinner, i take out 1/2 cubes for each glider and i unfreeze it in the microwave. Wanna ask if anyone is doing the sameway as i do? I din't follow the frist method, which is cut fresh fruits everyday because sg eats very little, and sometimes the fruits left alot, that will be very waste.
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You can do that. But the melted mixture become liquid? I don really like my gliders to consume all their food in liquid form.. Because it's not healthy for their teeth and gum. Dr Jenny mentioned b4 she met gliiders with gum problem because of having liquid diet solely for long period. So is good to give solid food some time.. You can stick with ur current method, but extra supplement them with good glider dry kibbles.. Try the Happy Glider Fruity Flavorr~ Very nice.. So it helps to maintain their teeth health by chewing too.

What I did now is, i bought 2 air tight container: One is for vege, one is for fruits. Then one shot i will buy half papaya, tomatoes, apple, sawi, honey dew, mango and etc... Cut everything into cube then put in the container.. Then keep inside fridge, not freezer..

So every night i just scoop the fruits and vege then serve to my gliders, gerbil, hamster, hedgehog and dog...
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can freeze, but i find the frozen fruits becomes soggy after u defrost it..
sot hey dun really like it..
but if ur gldier is ok with it then y not?

i'm using the 1st emthod though...
hehehe, cut fresh fruits everyday...
but then i have more than 1 suggie.
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Yeah, the fruit will become abit soggy after i defrost it. Thats y i'm worried about the soggy thingy. I should try put on the fridge. I put in the freezer at the first place because i scare the fruit's vitamins and nutrition will gone. Thanks eric & jitshiong.
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In fact, the nutrition will goes off bit when we keep in freezer or fridge compare to you cut fresh fruit daily.. because it expose to air and etc..

But for me, it's more efficient to do in this way. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Feb 25 2010, 02:53 PM)
Yeah, the fruit will become abit soggy after i defrost it. Thats y i'm worried about the soggy thingy. I should try put on the fridge. I put in the freezer at the first place because i scare the fruit's vitamins and nutrition will gone. Thanks eric & jitshiong.
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If putting chopped fruits into ice cube tray then pour some apple juice(unsweetened) to cover the fruits, freeze, I find that the fruits will be less soggy when defrosted.

A good freezer-tupperware/bag will help too to prevent freezer burn on the prepared cubes.
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Guys, I almost got a heart attack today when I saw my babies lying upside down in their cages! Apparently, because of the hot weather, they finished all their water and was still too hot, so they slept like that to cool down... = = Has this ever happened to you before?
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Home's Harmony in Pyramid sells fleece blanket (: I always buy from there biggrin.gifD It's just beside the Pet Shop. I've heard that Jusco also sells them, but i never seem to be able to find them there O: hahah !
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Hi all, im totally new with SG, but now im planning to have 1,since my pair of Chipmunks just left.
before i get a SG,i have some questions, hope all SG lovers can help me out.

1.im wondering do my cage suitable for a SG? (previously for chipmunk, 56Lx30Wx32Hcm)
2. can i and my fren have different sex, then let them to have baby when they are adult?
3. from question2, is it advisable to buy both of them from the same parent?
4. where is the recommended place for me to choose my SG?or any available here?

sry for many questions...but i will appreciate your reply,thx^^
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QUOTE(nevermine @ Feb 25 2010, 08:49 PM)
Hi all, im totally new with SG, but now im planning to have 1,since my pair of Chipmunks just left.
before i get a SG,i have some questions, hope all SG lovers can help me out.

1.im wondering do my cage suitable for a SG? (previously for chipmunk, 56Lx30Wx32Hcm)
2. can i and my fren have different sex, then let them to have baby when they are adult?
3. from question2, is it advisable to buy both of them from the same parent?
4. where is the recommended place for me to choose my SG?or any available here?

sry for many questions...but i will appreciate your reply,thx^^
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1. no. read front page for cages suggestions.
2. no. breeding 2 sugar gliders that stays separately are bad, since it will take both parents to raise the joey.
3. no. inbreeding is always bad.
4. i would suggest you bulk up on glider knowledge because you dint seem like you know a thing about them. They are not from squirrels family, they're marsupials. They needs a whole different kind of care.
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1. no. read front page for cages suggestions.
2. no. breeding 2 sugar gliders that stays separately are bad, since it will take both parents to raise the joey.
3. no. inbreeding is always bad.
4. i would suggest you bulk up on glider knowledge because you dint seem like you know a thing about them. They are not from squirrels family, they're marsupials. They needs a whole different kind of care.
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hi emino, thx for your reply and info.
now i just realized that they are marsupials! i'd read thru the thread, and you guys so care about their food...as it is different with chipmunk and hamster...

seems i cant use my chipmunk's cage...the high cage must be expensive.
any recommended place to buy a suitable cage? currently im studying at KL

thx again^^
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Currently the most complete things/stuffs/nutrition to be found at PETSHACK, in Sunway Mentari. U can go and have a look. The Boss n Lady Boss are sugar glider owners themselves, not to mention a part-time staff and some volunteers too. Surely a heaven for gliders!! wub.gif
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QUOTE(nevermine @ Feb 25 2010, 08:49 PM)
Hi all, im totally new with SG, but now im planning to have 1,since my pair of Chipmunks just left.
before i get a SG,i have some questions, hope all SG lovers can help me out.

1.im wondering do my cage suitable for a SG? (previously for chipmunk, 56Lx30Wx32Hcm)
2. can i and my fren have different sex, then let them to have baby when they are adult?
3. from question2, is it advisable to buy both of them from the same parent?
4. where is the recommended place for me to choose my SG?or any available here?

sry for many questions...but i will appreciate your reply,thx^^
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1. Your cage is not suitable for glider, and also not suitable for chipmunk too. Both of them need taller cage to sustain their high exercise level.

2) We don stud our gliders. As emino mentioned, both parents need to be there to take care of the babies. And If you separate the parents after they stay for some time, they will feel stress.

3) Of course not. Please do not try to do that.

Out of your 4 questions, 2 of it are actually asking bout breeding. I hope you don intend to breed your gliders before you really study and research bout gliders.

Please go stage by stage...first u nid to study and learn how to take care of sugar glider.. learn their basic needs, their characteristics and etc... then only start research bout glider breeding after u got all the basic glider keeping knowledge.. After that, only proceed to practise glider breeding when you r MENTALLY and FINANCIALLY ready...

I am not sure what is the actual reasons that your chipmunks left.. death? escaped? But, i hope you understand, it's a huge responsibility to keep sugar gliders, and it's even BIGGER if you breed them.


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Home's Harmony in Pyramid sells fleece blanket (: I always buy from there biggrin.gifD It's just beside the Pet Shop. I've heard that Jusco also sells them, but i never seem to be able to find them there O:  hahah !
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ok thanks alot,will try to go and find
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hi all...
wanna ask something... is that ok if i buy 1 male around 2month oop...
then i introduce to my female 8month year old...

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hi all...
wanna ask something... is that ok if i buy 1 male around 2month oop...
then i introduce to my female 8month year old...
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yes u can.. with a proper Introducing biggrin.gif
"Introducing sugar gliders can be extremely simple in some cases, but it can also be a long, slow, and stressful process."(ayat eric) biggrin.gif
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farid87, one more thing.. jus make sure u soak urself with all the breeding knowledge if you don plan to neuter the male..
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 26 2010, 04:36 PM)
farid87, one more thing.. jus make sure u soak urself with all the breeding knowledge if you don plan to neuter the male..
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yalor eric.. must study breeding knowledge =.=
actually i dont want to breed... but my grandma say... kesian ur glider lonely... go buy 1 male.. before april...
and if i nop buy male before april.. my grandma wanna go buy 2 pair... then give me =.=
sry lor like always BAD ENGLISH laugh.gif
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Then you should have explain to your grandma properly the impact and consequences..

I don see why you will need another 2 pair of gliders? Ur burden and responsibility will increased when u add in more gliders.
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hey guys,
i wipe my gliders with baby wipes,but they still smell like piss.why is that?
any other ways to make them smell pleasant?
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wipe frequently and regularly~~ wash their pouch wheels regularly... wipe their cage regularly...

when you do all this for 2-3weeks....then u will find them smell better..
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QUOTE(farid87 @ Feb 26 2010, 05:39 PM)
yalor eric.. must study breeding knowledge =.=
actually i dont want to breed... but my grandma say... kesian ur glider lonely... go buy 1 male.. before april...
and if i nop buy male before april.. my grandma wanna go buy 2 pair... then give me =.=
sry lor like always BAD ENGLISH laugh.gif
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if u dun plan to breed u can buy another female to teman your glider...


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QUOTE(armand_adli @ Feb 26 2010, 08:30 PM)
hey guys,
i wipe my gliders with baby wipes,but they still smell like piss.why is that?
any other ways to make them smell pleasant?
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are your gliders males?
the pist smell i think it's the male glider smell izit?gliders are musking animals they do stink somehow but female and neutered males are very minimal only

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why my sg upper body start from middle until near the tail turn into brown color...
it become more obvious day by day..
my sg now nearly 2 week with me.....
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Your glider is a joey or adult? It really depends. Some gliders will outgrow their grey and turn a bit brown. Some will stay grey. I got a male that I kept since he was born, he is still the same colour since he was a joey and he is 1 year old. I have a male that was grey as a joey, and now he is brown and he is 3 years old and it's his natural colour.

But if it is turning brown like fast and from the tail.... it could be your glider is not grooming itself properly. So stains from the pee and environment can cause it. If you are using a wooden house or plastic house or coconut, it's very likely to cause it.

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hey there, whats the best way to feed the joey with the replacement milk? She seems resisting to drink it from the syringe, not liking it
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Syringe is the best. Why joeys do not like the replacement milk is cause it actually taste damn weird. The only way is to force feed. You can use a spoon but I find a syringe is more precise and you can monitor how much she drinks. But make sure you change the syringe every 2 days. Milk residue can cause bacteria to grow.

QUOTE(chamyk2311 @ Feb 25 2010, 02:53 PM)
Yeah, the fruit will become abit soggy after i defrost it. Thats y i'm worried about the soggy thingy. I should try put on the fridge. I put in the freezer at the first place because i scare the fruit's vitamins and nutrition will gone. Thanks eric & jitshiong.
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Keeping fruits and veggies in the freezer will only slightly change the vitamin content. Not much difference if you keep it nicely in an air tight container. If you just leave it open in the freezer, bound to get freezer burn and it will cause oxidation. Don't defrost using microwave. You end up destroying some of the vitamins and enzymes with the radiation. And it is normal for fruits to become soggy after freezing cause the water defrosts faster than the fibers, so once the juice is all melted, the left over fibers become mushy.

QUOTE(babyvey @ Feb 25 2010, 06:00 PM)
Guys, I almost got a heart attack today when I saw my babies lying upside down in their cages! Apparently, because of the hot weather, they finished all their water and was still too hot, so they slept like that to cool down... = = Has this ever happened to you before?
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Yups. It is normal. Some also end up sleeping in their food bowls.

QUOTE(nevermine @ Feb 25 2010, 08:49 PM)
Hi all, im totally new with SG, but now im planning to have 1,since my pair of Chipmunks just left.
before i get a SG,i have some questions, hope all SG lovers can help me out.

1.im wondering do my cage suitable for a SG? (previously for chipmunk, 56Lx30Wx32Hcm)
2. can i and my fren have different sex, then let them to have baby when they are adult?
3. from question2, is it advisable to buy both of them from the same parent?
4. where is the recommended place for me to choose my SG?or any available here?

sry for many questions...but i will appreciate your reply,thx^^
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Your Chipmunk just left? Died?

The cage is not suitable for chipmunk or glider. Both need huge cages to stay active, healthy and sane.
Are you and your friend going to live with each other for the next 10 to 15 years? Sharing a pair of pets is never a good idea. You can end up stressing the gliders if you guys go separate ways. And you must remember about breeding. Don't jump into conclusions that gliders are easy pets and easy to breed. Yes, they may appear easy, but then they are not.
Do not buy from the same parents if you are gonna get a male and female. Inbreeding..... animals do not have smart brains that can think like humans. Obviously we won't want to marry and have children with our brothers and sisters. Animals think using instinct, and that is to mate at a given chance, produce and breed to repopulate.
Read the first page and google about sugar gliders. They are cute but they require a lot of commitment.

QUOTE(farid87 @ Feb 26 2010, 12:59 PM)
hi all...
wanna ask something... is that ok if i buy 1 male around 2month oop...
then i introduce to my female 8month year old...
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Yes, it's ok. And it's good coz if you are thinking about breeding, then the female is not underage. But then think about it yah, about breeding and neutering. If you just want a companion for your female, then get another female.

QUOTE(armand_adli @ Feb 26 2010, 08:30 PM)
hey guys,
i wipe my gliders with baby wipes,but they still smell like piss.why is that?
any other ways to make them smell pleasant?
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Your joeys were seperated from their mom too young, so they never learn how to groom themselves. You have to wipe everyday and for quite some time before you can see and smell improvements. The unpleasant smell is from pee, joey musk and food.
Yes, joeys do musk, and it is a creamy whitish liquid from their butt that some people thought it is pee but it is their musk.
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hye,

i am slow one on this..

happy new thread!
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That are 2 healthy looking gliders! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(armand_adli @ Feb 25 2010, 06:51 PM)
does any1 noe where to buy fleece?
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i saw a bundle of fleece somewhere in tesco..uhh they start selling agaknya.try go and look.okay.

1st we, must know how fleece look like , okay?
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QUOTE(emino @ Feb 26 2010, 11:58 PM)
That are 2 healthy looking gliders! thumbup.gif
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thanx emino biggrin.gif
lola wants to be tough guy like u cool2.gif
hehe
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QUOTE(kemek @ Feb 24 2010, 12:51 PM)
Thanks. Im afraid what will happen if i cannot afford to buy suggested diet. Guess i can change the diet everyday depending on their need and my wallet.. tongue.gif
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running on tight budget but still have the love for the animal.

ok.

no peti sejuk? (what we called it in B.I?)

1.buy a polystyrene box(small one) an u can fill it with ice.sejuk rite?so can put some fruits n veggi.ice u can get cheap2 one from 7-e


2. on da way home, see any guys or aunty selling fresh potong-potong fruits?.usually got papaya and honey dew.at RM2 per day.


3.tumpang the fruits or veg at your jiran house(again how to spell jiran in B.I?)


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something by ELKEN..

already being a member so i am ready to help you to get it at dealer's price.sebab aku pemalas untuk posting, we may do COD somewhere in petshack or klang.



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Hey guys, how to do hang your Critter Ka-Bob thing ? Must hang somewhere where they can stand on? Like near the side of the cage? Or can hang right in the middle and they'll know how to get it? o___o cause it's just a straight stick, duno whether they know how to get to it o not.
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aite,thanks for help guys
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aite,thanks for help guys
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sure.

please come again
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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Feb 27 2010, 12:28 AM)
Hey guys, how to do hang your Critter Ka-Bob thing ? Must hang somewhere where they can stand on? Like near the side of the cage? Or can hang right in the middle and they'll know how to get it? o___o cause it's just a straight stick, duno whether they know how to get to it o not.
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Hang in the middle also fine smile.gif they can still jump onto it and hang on nod.gif They like high places remeber? happy.gif
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okay biggrin.gif I'll hang it in the middle then biggrin.gif hahhaa !! Challenge her to try getting on to it O: lol ! Yesterday when I hang there she seem like she don't know how to get there O:
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I'm interested in getting a new SG, but due to my bad experience b4... I now lack of confidence to buy from a pet shop (My last 3 SG left due to I bought them under unhealthy condition) cry.gif
Can anyone of the glider lover recommend me a reliable n reputed petshop to get a new SG?
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buy from reputable breeder
shops...mostly not good....
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can i know ...


the small carnivore food ... this product is halal or not??

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i think small carnivore food is grinded insects..
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QUOTE(asyraf87 @ Feb 27 2010, 07:52 PM)
can i know ...
the small carnivore food ... this product is halal or not??
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Its halal dont worry smile.gif
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i think small carnivore food is grinded insects..
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Its halal dont worry smile.gif
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thank guys
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QUOTE(aldarisgan @ Feb 27 2010, 04:06 PM)
I'm interested in getting a new SG, but due to my bad experience b4... I now lack of confidence to buy from a pet shop (My last 3 SG left due to I bought them under unhealthy condition) cry.gif
Can anyone of the glider lover recommend me a reliable n reputed petshop to get a new SG?
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Don't put the blame solely on Petshops, owner need to bear big responsibility too.

If you have done your research on gliders, no matter dealing with petshop or home breeder, u will able to identify whether the joey is healthy or not..
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 27 2010, 11:03 PM)
Don't put the blame solely on Petshops, owner need to bear big responsibility too.

If you have done your research on gliders, no matter dealing with petshop or home breeder, u will able to identify whether the joey is healthy or not..
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yup very true..nicely said eric
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 27 2010, 11:03 PM)
Don't put the blame solely on Petshops, owner need to bear big responsibility too.

If you have done your research on gliders, no matter dealing with petshop or home breeder, u will able to identify whether the joey is healthy or not..
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very well said.
read up on the 1st page, look at the pics of the growth chart...see the glider for urself first b4 buying
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I did my research, and I don't mean blame solely on the petshop. Coz my pet die in less than 2 weeks, n during the time I bought I did ask to send them to check-up b4 I buy. Yet the shop refused me, and told me they got life guarantee. In the end, money refund is just what I got. cry.gif
That's y for godsake long I don't dare to buy another one anymore...I just looking for a guide n recommendation from u all sad.gif
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if you want a good breeder, some of the glider sifu do sells thier home breeds.. for sure they will be in tip top condition and dont forget to do all your studies cause they will most likely give u an interview before seel them to you

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I willing to do that interview^^ as long as I can get a healthy SG~
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ive been wondering like aldarisgan ; where to get a decent SG at affordable/cheap price..
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crazymouse_yyh and reanne are highly reccomended breeders...but be sure to do your research and able to answer questions if they ask..

if u are in a tight budget i suggest u just safe up and get later instead...coz to start up this hobby for having sg as pets is not cheap..u need to get suitable cage,supplements,food and vet checkups...the maintainance cost is not so much as starting up this hobby...

just read up and prepare youself..when u got the knowledge u know which joeys or sg to choose and most common senario is buying underage gliders..beware of this very important criteria..so just get yourself educated on glider care and to see if this pet is suitable for u in your daily life coz sg need your time commitment as well as lots of patience, tender love and care

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What kind of price is affordable/reasonable/cheap price to you?

@aldarisgan, i don mean to put the blame on you too. At least now you putting effort to learn more about gliders. There are few home breeders who sell healthy gliders in LYN, but there are some mass breeder too who sell underaged and unhealthy gliders at 'cheap' price. For petshop, so far I only know PetShack who sell healthy gliders.
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QUOTE(sodox @ Feb 28 2010, 01:37 PM)
ive been wondering like aldarisgan ; where to get a decent SG at affordable/cheap price..
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Hi i wouldnt say that there is any affordable/cheap price for suggies. If from the start you are expecting to have everything cheap, then if i may say so this is not the pet for you. You can have a look at this article i lay'ed out before about the real costs of keeping a glider - http://alturl.com/x38u

Price wise, most of them are of coz over RM250 at least.. Petshops even worst more than RM300 over. The latter one, of coz u dont know what kind of health issues they have. If its too cheap also, sometimes u dont know what is their condition.

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simply says...

to become owner of sugar glider, money is important.

if you are not willing to spend big amount of money, better don't.otherwise suggie will end up eat what you eat.we don't want that.

i am practically supporting this as an expensive hobby.any attempt say like want to find cheap glider, will lead you to unhealthy sugar glider.price war will leads to cheap price and over breeding.someday, some stupid breeder with lots of joey going to kill them or simply release them on our local jungle.disturbing the fauna.

links provided by SCC above is good.make sure you can follow it otherwise forget about 'tis bela bela thing'.

why?simply because SCC is one of the notable experts.

i also do support the right to live.means that unhealthy and underage sugar glider also have right to live but it must been in a care of an experts.

just went to a pets hop in Mines.i saw three little underage with wet tails.2 were crumpling and hiding-the cold.another one eating a rotten apples.there is one aunt with her son and daughter..i went to them and say " don't buy these creature.they will bee dead soon in 2 months" and i show them my glider for comparison.

1.want to save an underage glider in a pet shop?be a good and expert first.

2.no money to buy a glider?get your funds.kumpul duit or ask help from your parents.

3.still asking what food suitable for sugar glider?then don't buy them , yet.u have no enough confident to get one.

3.new owner thinking he/she is ready and want to buy pair of sugar glider?well, think twice again.you still not ready yet.
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i've found out few seller from mudah and the price is around 400-450 for pair joeys..but then ive read whole of this thread and im afraid it is too cheap to be good..thats why i ask..thanx for the page provided,i'll make more research and re-consider of getting SG..im aware of the expensive starting cost but i just wonder how much the cost of food(complete diet) for a pair of joeys per month?

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QUOTE(sodox @ Feb 28 2010, 07:56 PM)
i've found out few seller from mudah and the price is around 400-450 for pair joeys..but then ive read whole of this thread and im afraid it is too cheap to be good..thats why i ask..thanx for the page provided,i'll make more research and re-consider of getting SG..im aware of the expensive starting cost but i just wonder how much the cost of food(complete diet) for a pair of joeys per month?
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QUOTE(sodox @ Feb 28 2010, 07:56 PM)
i've found out few seller from mudah and the price is around 400-450 for pair joeys..but then ive read whole of this thread and im afraid it is too cheap to be good..thats why i ask..thanx for the page provided,i'll make more research and re-consider of getting SG..im aware of the expensive starting cost but i just wonder how much the cost of food(complete diet) for a pair of joeys per month?
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@lori - lol lorry, im not really a notable expert, but i do have some common glider knowledge.. I would be more happy to share with anyone. smile.gif I just love doing research that is all XD

@Sodox - I will say quite frankly.. NONE of the sellers in mudah boleh pakai one.. 1st, most of them sell underaged joeys. 2nd, they know NOTHING about a glider's diet & lifestyle. 3rd, to them housing gliders in a hamster cage is OK! sleep.gif 4th, usually they will say, you feed apple and dog food can already.. >_> 5th, they sell in pairs for cheap. BUT they sell male x female pairs to push sales fast. These pairs could very well be siblings, and for a new glider owner, i dont think they are ready for breeding. All these the sellers wont say to you one.

As for expenses, i can safely say i can spend almost close to RM200 per month for all the gliders that i have. That includes their diet, fresh fruits and veges and as well as treats. So maybe a pair could be around RM50 or more depending on what diet you give. Remember fresh fruits and veges is needed daily.. You might have to buy these every 3-5 days. You know lah they spoil easily XD
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Feb 27 2010, 11:03 PM)
Don't put the blame solely on Petshops, owner need to bear big responsibility too.

If you have done your research on gliders, no matter dealing with petshop or home breeder, u will able to identify whether the joey is healthy or not..
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ya2.. my 1st glider also i buy at pets wonderland mid valley... the price superb expensive... but i didnt make research 1st.... when i meet hun at ikano when got petster event, he show me the way... n now my glider become very big n shiny coat.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Feb 28 2010, 08:56 PM)
@lori - lol lorry, im not really a notable expert, but i do have some common glider knowledge.. I would be more happy to share with anyone. smile.gif I just love doing research that is all XD

@Sodox - I will say quite frankly.. NONE of the sellers in mudah boleh pakai one.. 1st, most of them sell underaged joeys. 2nd, they know NOTHING about a glider's diet & lifestyle. 3rd, to them housing gliders in a hamster cage is OK! sleep.gif 4th, usually they will say, you feed apple and dog food can already.. >_> 5th, they sell in pairs for cheap. BUT they sell male x female pairs to push sales fast. These pairs could very well be siblings, and for a new glider owner, i dont think they are ready for breeding. All these the sellers wont say to you one.

As for expenses, i can safely say i can spend almost close to RM200 per month for all the gliders that i have. That includes their diet, fresh fruits and veges and as well as treats. So maybe a pair could be around RM50 or more depending on what diet you give. Remember fresh fruits and veges is needed daily.. You might have to buy these every 3-5 days. You know lah they spoil easily XD
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thanx for the brief reply..for rm50/month is good for me..then if the petshops/mudah is not recommended,where would i get a decent pair of joeys?
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QUOTE(sodox @ Mar 1 2010, 03:58 PM)
thanx for the brief reply..for rm50/month is good for me..then if the petshops/mudah is not recommended,where would i get a decent pair of joeys?
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yueyi5730 Posted Yesterday, 02:17 PM
crazymouse_yyh and reanne are highly reccomended breeders...but be sure to do your research and able to answer questions if they ask..

if u are in a tight budget i suggest u just safe up and get later instead...coz to start up this hobby for having sg as pets is not cheap..u need to get suitable cage,supplements,food and vet checkups...the maintainance cost is not so much as starting up this hobby...

just read up and prepare youself..when u got the knowledge u know which joeys or sg to choose and most common senario is buying underage gliders..beware of this very important criteria..so just get yourself educated on glider care and to see if this pet is suitable for u in your daily life coz sg need your time commitment as well as lots of patience, tender love and care

can try what yueyi state...
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QUOTE(sodox @ Mar 1 2010, 03:58 PM)
thanx for the brief reply..for rm50/month is good for me..then if the petshops/mudah is not recommended,where would i get a decent pair of joeys?
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Go to LYN's Pet Store Section and search~ thumbup.gif You can tell how good of a breeder they are from the past joeys they had for sale. smile.gif Good luck yah.. hope you find a suitable one for yourself smile.gif Remember, nothing good is cheap~ quality is the best policy biggrin.gif
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latest pics of my gliders.
gone fatter and tail has become bushier.
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latest pics of my gliders.
gone fatter and tail has become bushier.
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it looks great. Good job. Keep up the good work. We know you can do it thumbup.gif
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hehhe..thanks !!
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u baru lap u punyer glider ker? look like a lil wet to me... huhu.. but still cute though..
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yup,the first pic is the male.
second pic female.
male just got cleaned.hehe
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hehe, clean up before photo shoot... nice.
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mesti laa... ingat top model orang aje ke nak kena get ready for their close up?...sayang takde gambor before and after brows.gif

i nak tanya si RJ sejak dah dapat gf ni he rubbed his chest and head to the point of severe baldness..skin isnt broken or red yet but i'm worried it might get to that point if he continues being sooo "enthusiastic"

he has attempted to mount her several times...should i let them be or discourage him considering she's barely 5 months old?


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Hey guys !!! (: There's a new addition to my family !!!! :DDD Please welcome.. *drums rolls* CRISCILLE !!!!
Will upload pictures once I get hold of my camera biggrin.gif heh. Friend borrowed it for some project stuff. x] Whee !

Thanks Jit Shiong biggrin.gif

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lol,go to tab 15.got before pics.
can see difference
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armand_adli: Good to hear tat. haha yea its tail got bushier. lol
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@eekang : heheh biggrin.gifD Thanks !!! x]


Added on March 1, 2010, 11:43 pm@Eric
Please help me update biggrin.gifD hehe.

Criscille, Female
DOB 1st November 2009
DOA 1st March 2010

Thanks !!

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@Jolene, updated d..hehe..no wonder u wanna get the bigg cage la...

@Glidermama, by now i think you should aware that it's not good to let the female glider to get pregnant at such young age right?

Went to supermarket jus now and grabbed few fruits and vege... blended a batch of fruit smoothie for my babies~~~ They love love it so so so much~~~

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hmm eric it looks yummy. haha. if i'm not wrong, inside got siew bak choi and cucumber rite? haha.. biggrin.gif

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Ya lor sifu eric..i oso wnt to knw wht type of fruits n vege
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yea.. let us know the recipe so we can try it for our gliders too! xD
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Mar 2 2010, 12:25 AM)
@Jolene, updated d..hehe..no wonder u wanna get the bigg cage la...
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hehe tongue.gif Yeap Yeap ! Haven't fixed up the big cage though (:
Only gonna use it when I put them together. Now 1 using exoterra biggrin.gif
So far, Crislyn and Criscille gets along quite well (:
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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Mar 2 2010, 08:02 AM)
hehe  tongue.gif Yeap Yeap ! Haven't fixed up the big cage though (:
Only gonna use it when I put them together. Now 1 using exoterra  biggrin.gif
So far, Crislyn and Criscille gets along quite well (:
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Glad to hear that they r getting along well.
Hehe, can do bonding together with the same pouch de.
But make sure u monitor them when they r together.

2 new joeys OOP yesterday. rclxms.gif
hehe, jolenelarhhs get to see them!!
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QUOTE(eekang @ Mar 2 2010, 12:38 AM)
hmm eric it looks yummy. haha. if i'm not wrong, inside got siew bak choi and cucumber rite? haha.. biggrin.gif
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Ya lor sifu eric..i oso wnt to knw wht type of fruits n vege
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QUOTE(babyvey @ Mar 2 2010, 01:07 AM)
yea.. let us know the recipe so we can try it for our gliders too! xD
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@eekang, no siew bak choi and no cucumber also la... i never feed cucumber to my gliders b4..because it is not really nutritious for them.

@ Shazman & babyvey, erm, i put in japanese sawi, honey dew, tomato, thailand mango..then to make the smoothie taste sweeter, i added bit pure mix fruit punch too.. Oh ya, with bit bit of calcium powder...It is greeen in color..but smeellss like mango~ very sweet taste..

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QUOTE(eric138 @ Mar 2 2010, 12:25 AM)
@Jolene, updated d..hehe..no wonder u wanna get the bigg cage la...

@Glidermama, by now i think you should aware that it's not good to let the female glider to get pregnant at such young age right?

Went to supermarket jus now and grabbed few fruits and vege... blended a batch of fruit smoothie for my babies~~~ They love love it so so so much~~~

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can u list up what engredient u use??? wanna try.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Hello guys!
Just received my gliderade and pouches from petshack which i ordered last tu, tuesday.. (i selected courier, should arrive on thursday... sigh..)

anyway, just want to ask, is gliderade really necessary? and how do you feed them? tried to feed them, but they just smelled it, thats it... don't want to force feed them everytime...
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You can either mix the gliderade with water, serve in saucer plate. 1part of gliderade powder + 5 part of water..

If they don drink, then sprinkle on top of fruits & vege then.

Gliderade is the nectar supplement, provide carbohydrate source to ur glider in order to sustain their high exercise level. It's very good for those dehydrated gliders too.
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omg thailand mango! haha.. comfirm ur suggie lick the bowl clean clean, coz thailand mango super duper sweet. hmm should try puting thailand mango too! dint think of it b4. haha! thank for the idea!! hmm i will upload some picture regarding on the sg tat petshop selling. see also kesian. =/
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My gliders wont eat if i mix the gliderade with water
bt if sprinkle on top of the fruits n vege they lick it
untill licin n finish all the fruits n veges too sweat.gif rclxms.gif


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My gliders wont eat if i mix the gliderade with water
bt if sprinkle on top of the fruits n vege they lick it
untill licin n finish all the fruits n veges too sweat.gif rclxms.gif
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i'll try that... for now they're just licking it out of my finger... hehe
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hey..can i ask something??
im going to buy a sugar glider..

can sugar glider give disease to ppl???
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QUOTE(syzwn @ Mar 2 2010, 07:43 PM)
hey..can i ask something??
im going to buy a sugar glider..

can sugar glider give disease to ppl???
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dude,

any specific disease in ur mind?? cause if they do carry disease, all of us should be in trouble by now.. some of us having them for years now...

so its no.. they dont carry disease if u get a homebreed suggie.

by the way.. welcome.. please do your research n read the first page before getting your suggie.

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got a question.whats the best food to feed joeys?
to keep them healthy and help them grow?
besides hpw that is.
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well no one can categorise as best food
what we do know is in m'sia got 3 types of staple food for sg
HPW(very common-easy to get),BML diet and gliderSlurp(made by crazymouse_yyh)

along side with the staple diet we give fruits and vege
to top up we give some supplements like gliderade,glider booster,acasia gum etc
more on that we give treats like yogurt drops,mealworm,crickets,dubia etc

as u see sg are offered a huge variety so they get all the nutrience they need to stay healthy

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i juz blend some fruit :: apple , honeydew , starfruit , blueberry , grape
and some vege :: sawi , carrot , tomato.... ++ gliderade ++ a bit glidercalcium... + fresh red apple juice ( i blend my self ) + put some yogurt... is this ok for my glider ?? =.= so many item put together ohhh ++ honey

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QUOTE(farid87 @ Mar 2 2010, 09:55 PM)
i juz blend some fruit :: apple , honeydew , starfruit , blueberry , grape
and some vege :: sawi , carrot , tomato.... ++ gliderade ++ a bit glidercalcium... + fresh red apple juice ( i blend my self ) + put some yogurt... is this ok for my glider ?? =.= so many item put together ohhh ++ honey
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Erm..you nid to check the overall ratio of your fruits and vege..of course it's hard to get it accurately but at least you can estimate roughly..so you will know the portion of calcium powder and yogurt u nid to put in..

If the ratio is already high in calcium, then u chunk in more calcium powder, end up it will be overdose calcium.

Make sure you peel off the skin of grapes and startfruit, and don put so much..because they are kinda high in oxalic acid.


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syzwn: lol, comfirm they dont. if they do, as wat tednet say, out sifu and glider owner here long time get already. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jitshiong @ Mar 2 2010, 09:04 AM)
Glad to hear that they r getting along well.
Hehe, can do bonding together with the same pouch de.
But make sure u monitor them when they r together.

2 new joeys OOP yesterday. rclxms.gif
hehe, jolenelarhhs get to see them!!
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Okay biggrin.gif I will, they're both on me right now. Crislyn kept grooming Criscille (: heheh. Criscille as usual, just stay still.

^^ My first time seeing joeys that just OOP. hehe. Now Crislyn's barking tongue.gif
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Mar 2 2010, 10:40 PM)
Erm..you nid to check the overall ratio of your fruits and vege..of course it's hard to get it accurately but at least you can estimate roughly..so you will know the portion of calcium powder and yogurt u nid to put in..

If the ratio is already high in calcium, then u chunk in more calcium powder, end up it will be overdose calcium.

Make sure you peel off the skin of grapes and startfruit, and don put so much..because they are kinda high in oxalic acid.
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i juz put a ( 1/2 tea spoon )glidercal.. and da grape i juz put around 5 oni... btw juz grape i dont peel da skin... throw out all seed
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hmmm, wan ask. wen onli we can cut out joeys nails?
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QUOTE(farid87 @ Mar 2 2010, 11:23 PM)
i juz put a ( 1/2 tea spoon )glidercal.. and da grape i juz put around 5 oni...  btw juz grape i dont peel da skin... throw out all seed
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You nid to peel of the skin pls..

1/2 teaspoon of glider-cal is A LOT!!!

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hmmm, wan ask. wen onli we can cut out joeys nails?
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Erm.i think u can cut ur joey's nail already..they are big enough..make sure u see properly la...joey's nail is harder to cut than adult..
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wonder wonder.... i cant shooping at petshack website after 11pm =.=

MEPS FPX OPERATING HOURS IS FROM 07:00 AM TO 11:00 PM.


Added on March 2, 2010, 11:38 pmhow to say arghh eric... u know at mcdonald or kfc... u drink coffee give u da very small spoon?? i use tats spoon... =.= tats also call teaspoon right?? btw i donno how to say 1 cubit in english =.=

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=/.... stress la wan cut their nails. if dont cut cannot scare get stuck..
farid87: cubit= pinch?
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Mm.. what does it mean when a glider barks a few times and ends with a hiss? o___o
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Mm.. what does it mean when a glider barks a few times and ends with a hiss? o___o
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Usually they hiss when they wake up. They just wanna tell everyone in the world that they are awake LOL. Barking cuz it wants attention. You will hear a lot of these now Jolene, since you have two.. brows.gif

Anyway pictures of my furbutts~ laugh.gif

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Jayden's botak slowly going off since he was neutered.. im going to miss that bald spot.. cry.gif and the worst part is when its completely gone, is gonna be hard to differentiate them.. coz their markings are almost the same! rolleyes.gif Unless i look under~ D:
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Hey guys i new here.....i think my sugar glider pregnent...this is my first time...should i mix with the male or split them in 2...the male is garang then before the female pregnent....


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Usually they hiss when they wake up. They just wanna tell everyone in the world that they are awake LOL. Barking cuz it wants attention. You will hear a lot of these now Jolene, since you have two..  brows.gif

Anyway pictures of my furbutts~  laugh.gif

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Jayden's botak slowly going off since he was neutered.. im going to miss that bald spot..  cry.gif and the worst part is when its completely gone, is gonna be hard to differentiate them.. coz their markings are almost the same!  rolleyes.gif Unless i look under~ D:
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My male sugar glider also botak cry.gif

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QUOTE(mingwai89 @ Mar 3 2010, 11:53 AM)
Hey guys i new here.....i think my sugar glider pregnent...this is my first time...should i mix with the male or split them in 2...the male is garang then before the female pregnent....


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Haizzz another one bites the dust doh.gif i dunno what to say.. sometimes it can be too frustrating to answer these kinds of questions. By the looks of it, you dint do any research on gliders. Suddenly pregnant dah.. and you not even ready. You dont ask if the male shud be seperated or not.. if you did your research, MALES and FEMALES work together as a TEAM to bring up the joeys. When mom goes out to eat, daddy takes over the job of taking care of the joeys. Please read the first page.. eric already pretty much put a lot of effort to lay out a LOT of info that covers every aspects of gliders~ take some initiative to do some actual research. yawn.gif

Male gliders if in tact of coz botak ma~
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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Mar 3 2010, 11:59 AM)
Haizzz another one bites the dust doh.gif i dunno what to say.. sometimes it can be too frustrating to answer these kinds of questions. By the looks of it, you dint do any research on gliders. Suddenly pregnant dah.. and you not even ready. You dont ask if the male shud be seperated or not.. if you did your research, MALES and FEMALES work together as a TEAM to bring up the joeys. When mom goes out to eat, daddy takes over the job of taking care of the joeys. Please read the first page.. eric already pretty much put a lot of effort to lay out a LOT of info that covers every aspects of gliders~ take some initiative to do some actual research. yawn.gif

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@Mingwai89, This is your first time having pregnant gliders, so go and study and read more bout glider breeding before it's too late. Anything can happen, especially rejection baby. And I hope you are feeding proper diet and nutrition to your gliders pair before this, otherwise the chances of rejection will be higher.

Please don't feel offended by our words here becasue we are pretty straight forward. Our direction here is not to spoon feeding owners but encourage owners especially newbie to take their own initiative in learning bout glider keeping. Of course, this is an open forum, it's for public discussion. But i guess you will absorb easier and more if you study first before asking questions.
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female moving slower than usual....male garang then usual....doh.gif
so after born just do nothing lo...i scare the female eats the baby glider...
i feed them fruits and bread worm...and cat food too...they like cat food alot tongue.gif

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By the post above, i can assure u r not feeding the the right way. Please AGAIN AGAIN, go to page one(S) on all the versions and read.
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Wow...to raise a glidy is such many way....shop info are too little....will upload the photo after the baby born...the shop that i bought is almost don't know how to treat them...before i bring them home they were live like hamster life...sad.gif now the bigest problem is the food for my glidy....any sugest of a brand or some thing and i'll list down to get it ...
And thank eric138 your blog have alot of infomation i need....glidy pregnent is accident sad.gif

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I would get rid of the cat food immediately. Irresponsible Shops of coz will tell u rubbish.. cuz they dont care of the joey, they just want to push sales. Please fix your glider's daily diet FIRST.. start by getting a proper diet. NOW that the mommy has joeys IP, she needs more protein. Bugsy is a very good brand that i have been using without any complications. But it always ends up to the owner, how much you want to feed them.
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Time to catch some bugs brows.gif
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QUOTE(mingwai89 @ Mar 3 2010, 01:22 PM)
Time to catch some bugs brows.gif
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I hope you are joking about this... i find your ways quite disturbing.. After we told you to read the first page.. did you actually do it? shakehead.gif
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i understand....i mean go to buy the bugsy brand pet stuff....about the first page i a little confuse....trying my best to do it since she accidently pregnent...what to do...its a life...sad.gif hope the baby glider healthy...please tech me step by step......i really newbie about this...i read but not so understand...

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hey there..guess you are already 21?
well you're not a little kid anymore...dealing with animals is not an easy task.. they are a living thing..even raising up a human baby we need a lot of guidance and preparation..same goes to pets..as a responsible owner we should do research and know the basic care of taking care of animals moreover this is a sugar glider which is considered as an exotic pet..eric has set up a very good basic guidance on the 1st page..it's not to say perfect but we all try to update it to the very best we can to give information to readers...so take it seriously ok coz ur gliders health is in your hands

many of us even me did our research here and ask questions and learn from the experience owners before getting ours..like u said they live hamsters life b4 being with u?? i can already guess u got it from the wrong breeder/pet shop...do read up on the diet which is the most crucial thing for ur sg...they are in captivity not in the wild anymore so we have to alter and do they best we can to compensate their daily diet..

yes at first there will be a lot of reading and confusions..last time i'm also like that then i post up and we discuss it on the thread..but at least i know now and i'm willing to help guide others and share my knowledge..i belive many other experienced sg owners are trying to help u out too but u seemed to be not taking it seriously
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Which part that you don't understand. Post it down. We will help you to understand it.
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any 1 willing to write down the step to me ?
seriously i really not good at this...and i really care about them...just some iresponsible pet seller teach me the wrong way sad.gif feel so sorry for them cry.gif
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QUOTE(mingwai89 @ Mar 3 2010, 01:51 PM)
any 1 willing to write down the step to me ?
seriously i really not good at this...and i really care about them...just some iresponsible pet seller teach me the wrong way sad.gif feel so sorry for them  cry.gif
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seriously, u wan us to write down every step by step? Might as well you read the front page. I'm sure you can get everything you need at there. If you got any part that you don't understand. Just ask.... but don't ask question like 1 + 1 = what? ok?
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i just need to know the food that i need to buy about the bugsy brand....should be alot of choice....whitch 1 is best for them...sad.gif

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@Mingwai89,

Erm, unexpected pregnancy for your case is not an accident because this definitely will happen when u put one inate male and female together in a cage.

Anyway, this is already happened, and we can change anything though.

Now, u nid to quickly decide on a diet to follow. If you ask me, I would recommend Bugsy HPW Diet. I have been using Bugsy products for quite some tiem, and all of them are doing well.
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bugsy brand oni got hpw as the staple diet what

others like gliderbooster/gliderade/acasia gum etc all those are supplements which u require to buy also
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OK tq sifu....Bugsy HPW Diet right...thank....except for that.....normally i feed them fruit and vege as usual right ?
coz normally i ask the shop keeper they not sure what should i need....

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there is a cart for u to download at the first page. use that cart to measure your food ratio ca:ph.... make sure the glider food ratio is around 1.5-2:1 .... look at the cart, it will tell u which fruit & vege is suitable for glider
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As you study deeper in glider diet, you will realize there are more things that could affect the calcium absorb by your glider such as vit. D, oxalates, phosphorus and more...

So keep on studying..then u will earn more knowledge..

Yes, along with Bugsy HPW Diet, u still have to feed fruit and vegetables EVERYDAY.
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QUOTE(Minds2 @ Mar 3 2010, 04:57 PM)
man u guys gals r really patience  notworthy.gif
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once you know suggies... i guess u will be patience also..
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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Mar 3 2010, 11:45 AM)
Usually they hiss when they wake up. They just wanna tell everyone in the world that they are awake LOL. Barking cuz it wants attention. You will hear a lot of these now Jolene, since you have two..  brows.gif
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Really?! o__o well.. I never heard Crislyn do that before O: Heard her barking but never hissing. Crislyn wasn't doing this when she just woke up, but when I bring Crislyn and Criscille out. Crislyn does that sometimes when she goes near to Criscille. Are they communicating or something? o__o Sometimes Crislyn does that then grooms Criscille. All the while, Criscille would just stayed still.

btw.. Nice picture ;]
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Don expect all the gliders will carry the same characteristics.. Some will stay quietly...but some may hiss to complain...

So, enjoy seeing different kind of faces of ur gliders.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(eric138 @ Mar 3 2010, 06:01 PM)
Don expect all the gliders will carry the same characteristics.. Some will stay quietly...but some may hiss to complain...

So,  enjoy seeing different kind of faces of ur gliders.. biggrin.gif
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I know, I know. But i'm curious why she only starts hissing after I got Criscille. o__o She hiss b4, but not this way. And she seldom hiss last time, only started to hiss more often after I got Criscille. And her hiss now is after she barked a few times.


Added on March 3, 2010, 6:13 pmJust wondering what it means ..

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QUOTE(tednet @ Mar 3 2010, 05:38 PM)
once you know suggies... i guess u will be patience also..
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enjoying every moment serving them wink.gif hehe icon_rolleyes.gif


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thx guys for the info biggrin.gif
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got a question,my joeys are about 3 months old, isit best i give them cut fruits with hpw or blend it together?
do i need the other supplements as well or hpw is sufficient?
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for me i usually sepreate the cut fruits+veg and hpw..
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ive been mixing them.they like it.
but i scared that isnt sufficient
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Don blend together with fruits...

You can mix with fruits in order to introduce HPW to your gliders. But after sometime try separate it, if ur glider can eat it separately then it's good.

You should get gliderade for carbohydrate source. HPW and Gliderade are the most basic supplement.

Others are optional.


Added on March 3, 2010, 11:45 pmDon blend together with fruits...

You can mix with fruits in order to introduce HPW to your gliders. But after sometime try separate it, if ur glider can eat it separately then it's good.

You should get gliderade for carbohydrate source. HPW and Gliderade are the most basic supplement.

Others are optional.

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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Mar 3 2010, 06:12 PM)
I know, I know. But i'm curious why she only starts hissing after I got Criscille.  o__o She hiss b4, but not this way. And she seldom hiss last time, only started to hiss more often after I got Criscille. And her hiss now is after she barked a few times.


Added on March 3, 2010, 6:13 pmJust wondering what it means ..
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my glider does that when I feed him late and he has to bark to remind me because sometimes i'm busy doing my assignments, i forgot it's already his dinner time. fussy little creature. so i guess it's a way of nagging to u or complaining to u about things she finds annoying. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Mar 3 2010, 05:51 PM)
Really?! o__o well.. I never heard Crislyn do that before O: Heard her barking but never hissing. Crislyn wasn't doing this when she just woke up, but when I bring Crislyn and Criscille out. Crislyn does that sometimes when she goes near to Criscille. Are they communicating or something? o__o Sometimes Crislyn does that then grooms Criscille. All the while, Criscille would just stayed still.

btw.. Nice picture ;]
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U WILL HEAR more hissing while playtime especially the male . mine hissing all the time when they playing at diferrent place apart then 1 show up unexpected then 1 will hiss off annoyance this happen mostly during introduction lol .they also hissing for attention u will find out soon de wat they mean when they hissing.u can try hissing back and see how they react de...

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QUOTE(maxtee @ Mar 4 2010, 05:03 PM)
U WILL HEAR more hissing while playtime especially the male . mine hissing all the time when they playing at diferrent place apart then 1 show up unexpected then 1 will hiss off annoyance this happen mostly during introduction lol .they also hissing for attention u will find out soon de wat they mean when they hissing.u can try hissing back and see how they react de...
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my glidy always do that too...and always pee and poo when i carry out of cage....


hehe at last settle the food nutrion problem....my glider is a year old since before my 2 dog moving in our family...i guess they old enought for having a baby glider....

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thanks eric,btw can i mix gliderade with hpw?
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QUOTE(armand_adli @ Mar 4 2010, 08:41 PM)
thanks eric,btw can i mix gliderade with hpw?
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never heard anyone mix gliderade with hpw... but i usually sprinkle on the fresh cut fruit+veg... compom licin dia makan.. whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(tednet @ Mar 4 2010, 08:50 PM)
never heard anyone mix gliderade with hpw... but i usually sprinkle on the fresh cut fruit+veg... compom licin dia makan.. whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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lol,ok.
thanks alot guys.
off to get gliderade tomorow.
cheers~
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my glidy move to bigger cage..and new toys oye~
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glad to hear that... ur glider will be happy as well..
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QUOTE(Iddy @ Mar 4 2010, 12:33 PM)
my glider does that when I feed him late and he has to bark to remind me because sometimes i'm busy doing my assignments, i forgot it's already his dinner time. fussy little creature. so i guess it's a way of nagging to u or complaining to u about things she finds annoying. tongue.gif
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hahha biggrin.gif I don't think mine is telling me something like this, she looks more like she's communicating with Criscille. That's just what I assume la, cause she only bark and ends with a hiss when she's near Criscille.

QUOTE(maxtee @ Mar 4 2010, 04:03 PM)
U WILL HEAR more hissing while playtime especially the male . mine hissing all the time when they playing at diferrent place apart then 1 show up unexpected then 1 will hiss off annoyance this happen mostly during introduction lol .they also hissing for attention u will find out soon de wat they mean when they hissing.u can try hissing back and see how they react de...
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Ooo.. maybe maybe. (: But in my case, it's Crislyn going up to Criscille then wait there awhile, then bark and ends with a hiss. hahah ! She does this few times d, all of the times also when she's with Criscille (:


Added on March 5, 2010, 12:54 amI brought both Crislyn and Criscille out just now in the same bonding pouch biggrin.gif No fighting or any bad thing happen. Both of them just slept together biggrin.gif

After I came back, let them out of the pouch then put them back in their cage to eat first, Criscille went straight to the food bowl. She was on the side of the cage, upside down taking a mouth full then chew. Then after that, she just went straight in and SAT in it !
O___________O She sat in it and never got out O: Still sit there and continue eating her food o_______o


Added on March 5, 2010, 12:59 amHelp, how do I clean Criscille up? o__o using wet wipes then dry tissue now. any better way?

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QUOTE(jolenelarhhs @ Mar 5 2010, 12:29 AM)
hahha biggrin.gif I don't think mine is telling me something like this, she looks more like she's communicating with Criscille. That's just what I assume la, cause she only bark and ends with a hiss when she's near Criscille.
Ooo.. maybe maybe. (: But in my case, it's Crislyn going up to Criscille then wait there awhile, then bark and ends with a hiss. hahah ! She does this few times d, all of the times also when she's with Criscille (:


Added on March 5, 2010, 12:54 amI brought both Crislyn and Criscille out just now in the same bonding pouch biggrin.gif No fighting or any bad thing happen. Both of them just slept together biggrin.gif

After I came back, let them out of the pouch then put them back in their cage to eat first, Criscille went straight to the food bowl. She was on the side of the cage, upside down taking a mouth full then chew. Then after that, she just went straight in and SAT in it !
O___________O  She sat in it and never got out O: Still sit there and continue eating her food o_______o


Added on March 5, 2010, 12:59 amHelp, how do I clean Criscille up? o__o using wet wipes then dry tissue now. any better way?
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just use the baby wipes.. make sure its alcohol free and no fragrant or perfume... i usually wipes mine with j&j messy times baby wipes.. wipe till her fell a sleep... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Yeap, mine is fragrance n alcohol free. (:
Wipe her till she fell asleep?! o___o It was at night then, and she just woke up O: lols !

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