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 Jan 31 2010, 11:35 PM, updated 16y ago
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Feb 1 2010, 08:53 AM
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Show off My new heli Align 700E 3G flybarless ( one and only in Malaysia/Singapore)
 Maiden yesterday at BJ. KNN the power is awesome  , main gear striped after just a minute of flying.  MY T700E set up: Align 3G Flybarless KDE Conversion Kit Scorpion 4035-500kv 18T Castle Creation HV ESC 5000mah 30C 6S X 2 Quick UK servo wheel & Body Mount STO 700 Aluminum Bolt STO Special Washer etc... Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Feb 1 2010, 09:24 AM
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Wow... finally R/C helicopter V2~~~
Added on February 1, 2010, 10:36 amQiW, what's the paint you used to paint your FP? I wonder if tamiya paint will do the work.. This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 1 2010, 10:44 AM |
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Feb 1 2010, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(kyoshooo @ Feb 1 2010, 08:53 AM) Show off My new heli Align 700E 3G flybarless ( one and only in Malaysia/Singapore) DAMN!!! Maiden yesterday at BJ. KNN the power is awesome , main gear striped after just a minute of flying. MY T700E set up: Align 3G Flybarless KDE Conversion Kit Scorpion 4035-500kv 18T Castle Creation HV ESC 5000mah 30C 6S X 2 Quick UK servo wheel & Body Mount STO 700 Aluminum Bolt STO Special Washer etc...  Awesome!!!  |
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Feb 1 2010, 05:25 PM
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This is how i mod for larger gyro location~
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 1 2010, 09:24 AM) Wow... finally R/C helicopter V2~~~ tamiya will do nicely .. but too expensive for meAdded on February 1, 2010, 10:36 amQiW, what's the paint you used to paint your FP? I wonder if tamiya paint will do the work.. i used the normal paint from hardware shop ... but the FLUORO type one la so it will be bright however the SOFT STOCK canopy does not help and will cause the paint to crack when u remove and install the canopy everytime |
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Feb 1 2010, 06:50 PM
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how much is a 4g6?
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rm1k+ .... and its not suitable for beginners
alot of heli flyers who can fly 3D with 500 size and above cannot even hover the 4G3 properly the 4G6 is much easier .. This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 1 2010, 08:26 PM |
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Feb 1 2010, 08:54 PM
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Does that mean the design of 4G3 is not good?
I see that a malaysia online store is selling 4G3 for RM1.5k, the 4G6 should be better than 4G3 and it's only 1k+? |
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Feb 1 2010, 09:42 PM
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all designs have inherent faults
is your maths as good as your language and is it as good as your accounting and is it as good as your biology etc etc ??? so u are not perfect .. hahahahaha it is the same as designs .. at that time of designing that was all they had to work with .. technology improves with time so things get cheaper and better (SOMETIMES NOT ALL THE TIME) b4 u ask what is good and what is not good .. do u know what is a collective pitch heli or fixed pitch heli ?? what is a gyro for ?? what is mode1 or mode 2 .. etc etc if u dont .. then do some reading b4 u ask coz there are no fixed rules as this hobby involves alot of personal preferences and way to do things some nice reading .. http://rcvehicles.about.com/od/rcflying/a/...flightbasic.htm .. http://www.rchelibase.com/ .. http://www.rchelicoptertips.com/rc-heli-beginners/ |
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Feb 1 2010, 10:26 PM
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I probably know what these terms mean
What next? |
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Feb 1 2010, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 1 2010, 05:26 PM) tamiya will do nicely .. but too expensive for me Thanks for the advise... that's my concern regarding cracking paint....i used the normal paint from hardware shop ... but the FLUORO type one la so it will be bright however the SOFT STOCK canopy does not help and will cause the paint to crack when u remove and install the canopy everytime Most probably i'll go for PVC sticker... Megastation is selling... not expensive too... will look around my area first... Small heli will be sensitive... just like an eagle can fly more stable than a sparrow... but a sparrow can turn in tight angle but an eagle can't... So everything have pros and cons... but the small size heli can survive some minor crash without any damage which bigger size heli won't because of small momentum....  I have done quite a number of hard landing on my 4G6 and it survived... if i did the same to the 450... that means, bye bye: blades, main shaft, fly bar, main rotor housing, etc..... Last week i did a hard landing on the Xeon FP and the crash report is: banded main shaft, fly bar and almost gone blade....  This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 1 2010, 10:44 PM |
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Feb 1 2010, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 1 2010, 10:26 PM) I probably know what these terms mean PROBABLY is not good enough ..What next? if u are adventurous then get yourself a heli and u will 99.999999% crash it .. hahahaha obviously u did not even read the links i put in there .. so whats the use of telling u whats next ?? all stuff must have basics .. if u dont get them right them u will forever be stuck and never advance or depend on others Added on February 1, 2010, 11:20 pm QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 1 2010, 10:33 PM) Thanks for the advise... that's my concern regarding cracking paint.... that is not a HARD LANDING la ... that one very severe crash already ... hahahahaMost probably i'll go for PVC sticker... Megastation is selling... not expensive too... will look around my area first... Small heli will be sensitive... just like an eagle can fly more stable than a sparrow... but a sparrow can turn in tight angle but an eagle can't... So everything have pros and cons... but the small size heli can survive some minor crash without any damage which bigger size heli won't because of small momentum.... I have done quite a number of hard landing on my 4G6 and it survived... if i did the same to the 450... that means, bye bye: blades, main shaft, fly bar, main rotor housing, etc..... Last week i did a hard landing on the Xeon FP and the crash report is: banded main shaft, fly bar and almost gone blade.... Added on February 1, 2010, 11:22 pmpps ... those stickers megashop selling are not FLUORO altho it might seem fluoro .. i used them on my planes and the results are nowhere as good as the orange paint i am using ... but of coz orange is a super striking colour laa Added on February 1, 2010, 11:27 pm QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 1 2010, 10:26 PM) I probably know what these terms mean since u already have your eyes on the TREX250 .. go for itWhat next? add in a few hundred more and get the FUTABA 8FG or JR DSX7 or SPEKTRUM DX7 charger and batts .. total should cost u about rm2.8k or so .. hehehe CRASHING PARTS and REPAIR LABOUR not included in the above costing .. This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 1 2010, 11:27 PM |
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Feb 1 2010, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 1 2010, 11:19 PM) PROBABLY is not good enough .. If you never fall down you never learn to walk, hehehehe if you never crash you never learn to fly if u are adventurous then get yourself a heli and u will 99.999999% crash it .. hahahaha obviously u did not even read the links i put in there .. so whats the use of telling u whats next ?? all stuff must have basics .. if u dont get them right them u will forever be stuck and never advance or depend on others Added on February 1, 2010, 11:20 pm that is not a HARD LANDING la ... that one very severe crash already ... hahahaha Added on February 1, 2010, 11:22 pmpps ... those stickers megashop selling are not FLUORO altho it might seem fluoro .. i used them on my planes and the results are nowhere as good as the orange paint i am using ... but of coz orange is a super striking colour laa Added on February 1, 2010, 11:27 pm since u already have your eyes on the TREX250 .. go for it add in a few hundred more and get the FUTABA 8FG or JR DSX7 or SPEKTRUM DX7 charger and batts .. total should cost u about rm2.8k or so .. hehehe CRASHING PARTS and REPAIR LABOUR not included in the above costing .. Is there a heli rc flier never crash his/her heli before? anyway, thanks for your advice and concern........ |
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Feb 1 2010, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 1 2010, 11:19 PM) Added on February 1, 2010, 11:20 pm that is not a HARD LANDING la ... that one very severe crash already ... hahahaha Added on February 1, 2010, 11:22 pmpps ... those stickers megashop selling are not FLUORO altho it might seem fluoro .. i used them on my planes and the results are nowhere as good as the orange paint i am using ... but of coz orange is a super striking colour laa hahaha.. blade also fly out... after i did some expo... then it become easier to control...Ok... thanks for your info...  seems like left me no alternative..... Do you know whether the T250 canopy can fit on FP?  |
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Feb 2 2010, 12:16 AM
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T250 canopy cannot fit coz too small ...
your alternatives are the honeybee or BCP canopies Added on February 2, 2010, 12:19 am QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 1 2010, 11:42 PM) If you never fall down you never learn to walk, hehehehe if you never crash you never learn to fly but b4 u learn to walk u must learn to stand ... the stand part is where u get all your basics right ... what u need to know and stuff b4 u even get the heli into the airIs there a heli rc flier never crash his/her heli before? anyway, thanks for your advice and concern........ i did not mean u crash as in crash once or twice ... i mean if u dont get your basics right u will be crashing so much that cry oso no tears come out .. This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 2 2010, 12:19 AM |
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Feb 2 2010, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 2 2010, 12:16 AM) T250 canopy cannot fit coz too small ... TOo bad that it won't fit... i do have BCP canopy.. it is slightly bigger too... look like big head.... it's alright... i'll look around then... worse will just put some pvc stickers on....your alternatives are the honeybee or BCP canopies Added on February 2, 2010, 12:19 am but b4 u learn to walk u must learn to stand ... the stand part is where u get all your basics right ... what u need to know and stuff b4 u even get the heli into the air i did not mean u crash as in crash once or twice ... i mean if u dont get your basics right u will be crashing so much that cry oso no tears come out .. Thanks ya....  R/C heli rocks~~ |
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Feb 2 2010, 10:31 AM
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or if u have any ... the king2 canopy .. hehehe
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Feb 2 2010, 11:05 AM
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Don't have king2 canopy... doesn't matter... those are just like "clothes"... most important is the main structure itself...
 I have no regrets of getting a 4g6... it let me practice more in the house during night time..... it suits me well and i've worked out on how to programme the 2602 Tx.... now it flies great and suit my control style.... Damage resistant too..  Ps: fly time about 7 ~ 9 mins on 75% throttle...  This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 2 2010, 11:07 AM |
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Feb 2 2010, 11:08 AM
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u make me wanna go out and get the 4G6 liau laa .. hahahaha
i miss flying around in the house  |
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Feb 2 2010, 12:28 PM
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Very interested to get the 4G6 the other day but didnt also
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Feb 2 2010, 12:31 PM
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QiW, I will take your advise .....
Cliffang83, what's the price for a 4G6? Hehe, I think I will play more in the house instead of going out. |
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Feb 2 2010, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 2 2010, 11:08 AM) u make me wanna go out and get the 4G6 liau laa .. hahahaha You can always get a 4g6~~ hahaha... then we can share share experience ma.... hahaha~ i miss flying around in the house (Poison~~~)  Imagine.. how you can perform 3D in the house... cool isn't it?  leyley: come join us~~ daddoo: I imported it myself and marely gone through the custom... my total is about RM1k inclusive of tax... But before you enter, you must at least have some basic knowledge on r/c heli... it do helps a lot... since it is small so not so easy to setup either... I would import some parts soon for 4G6... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 2 2010, 01:07 PM |
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Feb 2 2010, 01:08 PM
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ok .. see how this week goes
if all goes as planned ... then weekend i go get the 4G6 .. if got ready stock la .. hahahahaahaa |
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Feb 2 2010, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 2 2010, 01:08 PM) ok .. see how this week goes Update us ya....if all goes as planned ... then weekend i go get the 4G6 .. if got ready stock la .. hahahahaahaa For sure LHS will be 2801 Tx.... hahaha~ |
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Feb 2 2010, 06:16 PM
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So jealous you guys in KL/Selangor area for so easy to get heli and parts ....
QiW, if possible please show us your open box photos |
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Feb 2 2010, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 2 2010, 06:16 PM) So jealous you guys in KL/Selangor area for so easy to get heli and parts .... I'm not from KL/Selangor~QiW, if possible please show us your open box photos QiW will have a lot to share with us~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 2 2010, 06:34 PM |
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Feb 3 2010, 01:24 AM
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IF all goes as PLANNED only laaa
and IF got READY STOCK laaa ... hahahahahahaa |
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Feb 3 2010, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 3 2010, 01:24 AM) IF all goes as PLANNED only laaa Last 2 weeks... i asked the shop in BTS regarding the parts for 4g6.... but they don't have and said "Soon we'll have"....... and IF got READY STOCK laaa ... hahahahahahaa  |
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Feb 3 2010, 03:11 PM
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IF and WHEN i get the 4G6 .. i will be ordering parts from OHS
if by that time u still have not got your spares ... maybe can tumpang tumpang order together laa .. local shipping is much cheaper ma .. hahaha |
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Feb 3 2010, 06:12 PM
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Anyone care to tell me what are LHS & OHS stand for?
I guess L is local and O should be Oversea .... am i getting it right? OK, just found the words after a while, LHS is local hobby shop ....... This post has been edited by daddoo: Feb 3 2010, 06:14 PM |
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Feb 3 2010, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 3 2010, 03:11 PM) IF and WHEN i get the 4G6 .. i will be ordering parts from OHS if by that time u still have not got your spares ... maybe can tumpang tumpang order together laa .. local shipping is much cheaper ma .. hahaha Sure sure..... will look into it~ QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 3 2010, 06:12 PM) Anyone care to tell me what are LHS & OHS stand for? 100% correct~ I guess L is local and O should be Oversea .... am i getting it right? OK, just found the words after a while, LHS is local hobby shop ....... |
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Feb 3 2010, 07:48 PM
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actually no la ...
OHS = online hobby shop LHS = local hobby shop hehehehe |
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Feb 4 2010, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 3 2010, 07:48 PM) actually no la ... Oh.. my mistake~ OHS = online hobby shop LHS = local hobby shop hehehehe |
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Feb 4 2010, 09:54 AM
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so is FP flying anything like CP flying ?? hehehehe
i much much prefer CP ... more control more power more speed ... but of coz more $$ and parts to damage la .. hahahahaa |
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Feb 4 2010, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 4 2010, 09:54 AM) so is FP flying anything like CP flying ?? hehehehe FP is kinda slow.... had been playing with 4G6 & Sim lately.... i much much prefer CP ... more control more power more speed ... but of coz more $$ and parts to damage la .. hahahahaa FP also kinda parking together with 450... |
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Feb 4 2010, 03:24 PM
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small helis rocks !! hahahahaa
but only if u can already fly la |
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Feb 4 2010, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 4 2010, 03:24 PM) small helis rocks !! hahahahaa So, has yours reaching?but only if u can already fly la Added on February 4, 2010, 9:37 pmMy 4g6's esc just dead.... which i only unplug it to check the pitch curve of blade.... connect back to motor.... and it's not turing.....!!! This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 4 2010, 09:37 PM |
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Feb 4 2010, 10:20 PM
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esc dead ?? so fast meh ??
cannot be laa .. check the connection from ESC to 4n1 .. sometimes that one not plugged in properly one leh .. |
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Feb 4 2010, 10:40 PM
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Confirmed gone case... tested with DMM.... no reading from output... but there's reading from the Rx.....
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Feb 4 2010, 10:47 PM
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I have an idea here, those who said that the 4G3 is too light and therefore hard to control, you may stick some heavy object under the heli, especially for the beginner, isn't it this will help to learn hovering?
Added on February 4, 2010, 10:48 pm QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 4 2010, 10:40 PM) Confirmed gone case... tested with DMM.... no reading from output... but there's reading from the Rx..... wow, how many months u fly ur 4G6? The ESC gone?This post has been edited by daddoo: Feb 4 2010, 10:48 PM |
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Feb 4 2010, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 4 2010, 10:47 PM) I have an idea here, those who said that the 4G3 is too light and therefore hard to control, you may stick some heavy object under the heli, especially for the beginner, isn't it this will help to learn hovering? If you put heavy object... are you sure that it will even lift off the ground?? Added on February 4, 2010, 10:48 pm wow, how many months u fly ur 4G6? The ESC gone? Less than a month~!! small electronics... will tend to burn with small current surge...  |
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Feb 4 2010, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 4 2010, 10:58 PM) If you put heavy object... are you sure that it will even lift off the ground?? Aiya, of course a optimal weight lah Less than a month~!! small electronics... will tend to burn with small current surge... I believe this could be a trial & error method to find out the perfect one ..... |
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 4 2010, 10:40 PM) Confirmed gone case... tested with DMM.... no reading from output... but there's reading from the Rx..... i might have a spare ESC lying around ...but the connectors may be missing .. u will have to do some DIY let u know tomoro .. hahaha Added on February 5, 2010, 1:16 am QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 4 2010, 11:15 PM) Aiya, of course a optimal weight lah yes .. u can put weight to slow down the 4g3 I believe this could be a trial & error method to find out the perfect one ..... like u said .. optimal weight ... but where ?? have to look after the CG which is very sensitive to something so small just put some very small weight on the FLYBAR laa .. it will slow it down quite alot and will not add too much AUW This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 5 2010, 01:16 AM |
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Feb 5 2010, 07:53 AM
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I think different heli the place u put the object will be different, so I am afraid that I dun have the answer for you, AGAIN, trial & error !!
One thing, increasing the load to your motor will definitely decreasing its life, just a matter of time only. But for the beginner I think it is still OK maybe. If you put it to flybar, would you slow down the RPM? |
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Feb 5 2010, 09:30 AM
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The load of the motor can be decrease by lesser pitch curve.... so you can try increasing the pitch curve little by little till satisfaction lo....
Decrease the pinion gear will do the tricks too... How about increasing the expo?? Increasing the flybar weight is an option too... but not too much as your heli will become slow respond... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 5 2010, 09:37 AM |
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Feb 5 2010, 10:18 AM
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flybar weights main purpose is to slow down the cyclic ... and of coz it will slow down the headspeed slightly
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Feb 5 2010, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 01:13 AM) i might have a spare ESC lying around ... Thanks a lot... but the connectors may be missing .. u will have to do some DIY let u know tomoro .. hahaha |
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Feb 5 2010, 10:31 AM
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ok ... found the ESC .. i think it should be working but i cannibalised the connectors for use with XP7A ESC .. hehehehe
the batt connector and the connector to 4n1 is missing .. the standard servo connector which walkera use to connect to motor is still attached u will have to cut your KONG liau ESC connectors to use with this one |
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Feb 5 2010, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 10:31 AM) ok ... found the ESC .. i think it should be working but i cannibalised the connectors for use with XP7A ESC .. hehehehe ok... So how much you going to charge me? the batt connector and the connector to 4n1 is missing .. the standard servo connector which walkera use to connect to motor is still attached u will have to cut your KONG liau ESC connectors to use with this one |
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Feb 5 2010, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 5 2010, 10:41 AM) ok... So how much you going to charge me? just pay me rm10 for post and pack laa .. consider it a gift .. hahaha |
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i got some newbie question:
how do you setup the colco 4ch apache's swash plate? how do you actually "balance" it? i can understand the e-sky's type, but the colco's is a bit confusing.  i dismantled the apache for a little clean up and oiling and simply just to get to know the components, but after re-assembling, it flies a little weird. |
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Feb 5 2010, 11:22 AM
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look at the main shaft vs swash plate from the side and from the back
make sure it is level on all angles .. adjust/turn the linkage from the servos to swash to level it .. oso check CG and balance your blades .. remove blade from heli .. hold and balance the flybar 90 degrees to your heli body .. it should be level or very close to level .. if not then your CG is out and heli will go towards the heavier direction Added on February 5, 2010, 11:23 amswash should be 90 degrees to the main shaft .. so look at the swash relative to the main shaft .. not the heli body .. hahaha This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 5 2010, 11:23 AM |
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Feb 5 2010, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 10:51 AM) just pay me rm10 for post and pack laa .. consider it a gift .. hahaha Same account? |
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Feb 5 2010, 12:12 PM
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yaa ... same ... do u need any blades since i am already posting .. hehehe
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 11:22 AM) look at the main shaft vs swash plate from the side and from the back ok thanks. will give it a shot.make sure it is level on all angles .. adjust/turn the linkage from the servos to swash to level it .. oso check CG and balance your blades .. remove blade from heli .. hold and balance the flybar 90 degrees to your heli body .. it should be level or very close to level .. if not then your CG is out and heli will go towards the heavier direction Added on February 5, 2010, 11:23 amswash should be 90 degrees to the main shaft .. so look at the swash relative to the main shaft .. not the heli body .. hahaha |
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 12:12 PM) yaa ... same ... do u need any blades since i am already posting .. hehehe CF or ori blades for 4G6 laa .. heheheprice i already quoted u last time ma ... looks likely that i might purchase 4G6 this weekend ... IF i got time to go buy la ... bz bz bz with the wife and CNY stuff la .. huahahahahaa |
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Feb 5 2010, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 01:50 PM) CF or ori blades for 4G6 laa .. hehehe Sorry ar~ don't remember that you quoted me b4~ price i already quoted u last time ma ... looks likely that i might purchase 4G6 this weekend ... IF i got time to go buy la ... bz bz bz with the wife and CNY stuff la .. huahahahahaa |
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Feb 5 2010, 02:33 PM
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dont forget to balance the blades 1st b4 putting into heli ... hahahaaha
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Feb 5 2010, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 01:50 PM) CF or ori blades for 4G6 laa .. hehehe Cliffang burnt the 4G6's ESC in a month, you still confident with it?price i already quoted u last time ma ... looks likely that i might purchase 4G6 this weekend ... IF i got time to go buy la ... bz bz bz with the wife and CNY stuff la .. huahahahahaa |
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Feb 5 2010, 05:06 PM
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Having burned ESC is quite a common but not in my situation la...
ESC can upgrade to better and more reliable brand.... Most important the whole structure and design of the heli have to be good... |
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Feb 5 2010, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 5 2010, 04:42 PM) Cliffang burnt the 4G6's ESC in a month, you still confident with it? this one sometimes depends on LUCK one laaa ...NEW things like PROTON cars oso can have problems one maa so what are u getting ?? |
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Feb 5 2010, 09:39 PM
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then u go and buy lah .... let me know one month later ESC burn or not ....
Thought to tell you something, but then I think no need now .... Added on February 5, 2010, 9:40 pm QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 5 2010, 05:06 PM) Having burned ESC is quite a common but not in my situation la... I found somewhere that the ESC for 4G3 is RM160++, not sure 4G6 got stock now or not .......ESC can upgrade to better and more reliable brand.... Most important the whole structure and design of the heli have to be good... This post has been edited by daddoo: Feb 5 2010, 09:43 PM |
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Feb 5 2010, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 5 2010, 09:39 PM) then u go and buy lah .... let me know one month later ESC burn or not .... Come come~~ join the 4G6 club....Thought to tell you something, but then I think no need now .... Added on February 5, 2010, 9:40 pm I found somewhere that the ESC for 4G3 is RM160++, not sure 4G6 got stock now or not ....... RM160++ for esc??  I import motor + esc combo for about RM80 wor~~ |
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Feb 5 2010, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 5 2010, 09:39 PM) then u go and buy lah .... let me know one month later ESC burn or not .... wanna tell anything or not oso up to u one maa .. hahahaThought to tell you something, but then I think no need now .... Added on February 5, 2010, 9:40 pm I found somewhere that the ESC for 4G3 is RM160++, not sure 4G6 got stock now or not ....... btw .. STOCK 4g6 and 4g3 uses the same esc Added on February 5, 2010, 9:51 pm QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 5 2010, 09:48 PM) Come come~~ join the 4G6 club.... top of the range motor + ESC for the 4g6/4g3 costs around USD50+RM160++ for esc?? I import motor + esc combo for about RM80 wor~~ thats almosts rm200 liau .. hehehe This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 5 2010, 09:51 PM |
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Feb 5 2010, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 09:49 PM) wanna tell anything or not oso up to u one maa .. hahaha The esc rated as same... 10Amp...btw .. STOCK 4g6 and 4g3 uses the same esc If esc still cannot last~~ worse come to worse~~ SPECK IT~~~ |
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Feb 5 2010, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 5 2010, 09:51 PM) The esc rated as same... 10Amp... no la ... my ESC lasted me until today no probs ... at least 100-200 flights and still goingIf esc still cannot last~~ worse come to worse~~ SPECK IT~~~ both tail and main esc oso for my EX 4g3 .. hehehe i want a 4G6 so i can fly at home and be anti-social .. hahahahaahahaa |
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Feb 5 2010, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 5 2010, 09:48 PM) Come come~~ join the 4G6 club.... Opppssss, my mistake .... it should be RM60++RM160++ for esc?? I import motor + esc combo for about RM80 wor~~ Added on February 5, 2010, 10:02 pm QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 09:49 PM) wanna tell anything or not oso up to u one maa .. hahaha Ya ... I will let you try your luck btw .. STOCK 4g6 and 4g3 uses the same esc Added on February 5, 2010, 9:51 pm top of the range motor + ESC for the 4g6/4g3 costs around USD50+ thats almosts rm200 liau .. hehehe This post has been edited by daddoo: Feb 5 2010, 10:02 PM |
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Feb 5 2010, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 09:49 PM) Added on February 5, 2010, 9:51 pm top of the range motor + ESC for the 4g6/4g3 costs around USD50+ thats almosts rm200 liau .. hehehe QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 5 2010, 10:01 PM) Opppssss, my mistake .... it should be RM60++ Yayaya.... RM60.. i saw that too... |
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Feb 5 2010, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 5 2010, 10:01 PM) Opppssss, my mistake .... it should be RM60++ try my luck for what ??Added on February 5, 2010, 10:02 pm Ya ... I will let you try your luck got something to win ah ?? hehehe |
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Feb 5 2010, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 5 2010, 10:13 PM) try my luck for what ?? maybe you accidentally can fly F3A with 4G6?? got something to win ah ?? hehehe Added on February 5, 2010, 11:32 pmBtw, daddoo.... what are you getting then? Trex 450 Pro? Trex 250se? or Trex 500 ESP? This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 5 2010, 11:32 PM |
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Feb 5 2010, 11:53 PM
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i might be selling off my dx7 mode 2 too .. hehehe
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Feb 6 2010, 08:30 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 5 2010, 11:13 PM) maybe you accidentally can fly F3A with 4G6?? I think I have narrowed down to T-250 or 4G6. I think I will prefer to fly it indoor at this moment so 4G6 is the suitable one (although T-250 also can fly indoor but you need a spacious house). Added on February 5, 2010, 11:32 pmBtw, daddoo.... what are you getting then? Trex 450 Pro? Trex 250se? or Trex 500 ESP? But honestly my preference is T-250 because I would like do assembly myself to learn more about this hobby, and T-250 is more capable to fly outdoor let's say I am capable in the future. Then this way, I would not have to spend $$$ again to buy outdoor heli. Other than this, the initial cost also bothering me, 4G6's cost is only half of the T-250 (if you include all the components, Tx, Batt etc). Hmmmm, need to think and consider more.  |
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Feb 6 2010, 10:34 AM
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i might be selling off my dx7 radio (mode 2) + receiver(s) if anyone if interested .. hehehe .. so u can save quite abit on your initial start up cost if u buy my 7 months old radio .. hahahaha
then u can get the T250 and do whatever u think u can do with it .. hehehe This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 6 2010, 11:21 AM |
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Feb 7 2010, 12:36 AM
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How much are you selling?
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Feb 7 2010, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 7 2010, 12:36 AM) How much are you selling? currently booked liau lorr .. was asking for rm650 ... dx7 + ar6100 |
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Feb 7 2010, 09:43 AM
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Oh... i'm just asking.... just wanna know the market value......
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Feb 7 2010, 09:30 PM
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haiyooo .. could not find the time to go get the 4G6 today laa
see tomoro got time or not .. hehehe now start process of assembling/building my 1st BALSA PLANE .. hehehe |
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Feb 8 2010, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 7 2010, 09:30 PM) haiyooo .. could not find the time to go get the 4G6 today laa Wow... don't forget to post some photo ya.... see tomoro got time or not .. hehehe now start process of assembling/building my 1st BALSA PLANE .. hehehe |
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Feb 8 2010, 12:47 PM
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what photos ??
my plane ?? i think 4G6 no need la since u already have it .. i can post some pics of my 1st BALSA plane .. i got a few foam planes already .. hehehe going out to post the blades and esc in 10mins .. to Ms Lim .. hahahahaa |
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Feb 8 2010, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 8 2010, 12:47 PM) what photos ?? Anything that you can show us la.... if not this forum will be so dull.... it's alright to post some pic... hahaha... at least to cheer this forum up~ my plane ?? i think 4G6 no need la since u already have it .. i can post some pics of my 1st BALSA plane .. i got a few foam planes already .. hehehe going out to post the blades and esc in 10mins .. to Ms Lim .. hahahahaa  |
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Feb 8 2010, 06:00 PM
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this is EXACTLY what i am building right now .. hahahaa
http://www.theworldmodels.com/para/product...?airplaneid=117 Added on February 8, 2010, 6:03 pmand this is next after the chipmunk .. i already have it at home waiting .. hehehe http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/553122.asp This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 8 2010, 06:03 PM |
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Feb 8 2010, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 8 2010, 06:00 PM) this is EXACTLY what i am building right now .. hahahaa Wow~~ so cool ya... you import it yourself?http://www.theworldmodels.com/para/product...?airplaneid=117 Added on February 8, 2010, 6:03 pmand this is next after the chipmunk .. i already have it at home waiting .. hehehe http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/553122.asp |
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Feb 8 2010, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 8 2010, 07:41 PM) Wow~~ so cool ya... you import it yourself? no la .. LHS .. hehehethe chipmunk was HARGA RUNTUH case ... the ULTMATE EP is something that i lliked for a long time already so i just bought it lorr chipmunk will maiden 1st hopefully 2nd day of CNY .. have to see if i can maiden the ULTIMATE the following week .. hehehe Added on February 8, 2010, 8:33 pmwill post real pic of the CHIPMUNK once i get it completed .. and the ULTIMATE oso la of coz .. This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 8 2010, 08:33 PM |
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Feb 8 2010, 09:06 PM
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Don't worry... you can post your building process too... it can be our references in future ma~~
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Feb 8 2010, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 8 2010, 09:06 PM) Don't worry... you can post your building process too... it can be our references in future ma~~ thinking of getting into planes ??it is more relaxing to fly and need BIG OPEN SPACES .. compared to heli and u can fly in a group too .. hehehe the 2 above is my 5th and 6th plane liau .. the earlier ones all FOAM planes |
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Feb 8 2010, 09:36 PM
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Hey guys, any idea which LHS is selling 4G6?
I found one LHS but out of stock now .......... This post has been edited by daddoo: Feb 8 2010, 09:36 PM |
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Feb 8 2010, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 8 2010, 09:24 PM) thinking of getting into planes ?? No la... i don't have "kaki" over here... so... have to play anti-social lo~~ it is more relaxing to fly and need BIG OPEN SPACES .. compared to heli and u can fly in a group too .. hehehe the 2 above is my 5th and 6th plane liau .. the earlier ones all FOAM planes  If got "kaki" maybe will get 1 lo~  QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 8 2010, 09:36 PM) Hey guys, any idea which LHS is selling 4G6? As i know... there's only 1 LHS selling.. which is located in BTS.... I found one LHS but out of stock now .......... |
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Feb 8 2010, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 8 2010, 10:10 PM) No la... i don't have "kaki" over here... so... have to play anti-social lo~~ sssshhhhhhh ... wait until after i get it 1st laa If got "kaki" maybe will get 1 lo~ As i know... there's only 1 LHS selling.. which is located in BTS.... |
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Feb 8 2010, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 8 2010, 11:03 PM) sssshhhhhhh ... wait until after i get it 1st laa Are you sure that daddoo is talking about a different LHS?  |
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Feb 8 2010, 11:22 PM
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I don't know what is BTS woh ...
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Feb 8 2010, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 8 2010, 11:22 PM) I don't know what is BTS woh ... Bro~~ are you sure??  |
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Feb 9 2010, 12:05 AM
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Fren, I am living in Penang so it is not surprise that I don't know places in KL. Although I was studying in KL before but it was 8 yrs ago.
That time BERJAYA TIME SQUARE still don't know where. Opppss, I leaked something out ... hehehhhehe OK lah, I know lah but which shop? |
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Feb 9 2010, 10:51 AM
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one of the shops lorr .. u will have to go look look and see which shop has it .. hahahahaa
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Feb 9 2010, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 9 2010, 12:05 AM) Fren, I am living in Penang so it is not surprise that I don't know places in KL. Although I was studying in KL before but it was 8 yrs ago. If got time you can go shopping in BTS la.... nice place, cold air-cond, many shops... shouldn't be hard to get la...That time BERJAYA TIME SQUARE still don't know where. Opppss, I leaked something out ... hehehhhehe OK lah, I know lah but which shop?The shop don't sell online either... |
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Feb 9 2010, 12:38 PM
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gonna look for new more powerful motor for my chipmunk today .. and get servos and extension for the ailerons
once i get those and put them in it should be almost done ... hehehehe |
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Feb 9 2010, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 9 2010, 12:38 PM) gonna look for new more powerful motor for my chipmunk today .. and get servos and extension for the ailerons Wow... great ar... hahaha....once i get those and put them in it should be almost done ... hehehehe Acctually... how many planes do you have? |
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Feb 9 2010, 02:37 PM
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WIP planes >> chipmunk and ultimate ep
currently flyworthy planes >> TL2000 and SIAM LOW WING TRAINER and ZAGI WING planes given away >> CESSNA 182 currently owned helis >> 450PRO and almost fully extreme upgraded KING2 sold/exchanged helis >> 4G3 and compy300 and guruZ FP total lost helis >> ESKY DAUPHIN Added on February 9, 2010, 2:54 pmhope to fly NEW PLANE(S) with NEW LUNAR YEAR ... hahahaha This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 9 2010, 02:54 PM |
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Feb 9 2010, 07:13 PM
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Damn~~ i changed the ESC and motor is still not turing... suspect that motor is burning as normally after each flight it got heated up pretty much...
also read that the motor is actually under power for the 4G6 which i do believe so as the same motor was used in 4G3 which only turn rotor head, and now it is used to power both head and tail... my new brushless is on the way... will get it any time this week... ish~ should have got a better motor... QiW really got so many toy ya... can spare a room and uses all the toy as deco lo~~ Double checked the motor........ it is FINE~~ the worse part... left RX only~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 9 2010, 08:32 PM |
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Feb 9 2010, 10:14 PM
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rx ah ??
that one expensive lorr .. usd33 or usd35 i think the ESC i sent u was working fine b4 i cut the wires ... i used the connector to attached to a XP7A ESC which came with the wrong adapters .. hehehe the XP7A can be used for later on motor upgrades la .. |
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Feb 9 2010, 10:41 PM
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I double checked everything, and the ESC you sent me is working...
When the lipo is plug in, RX will initialize one "beep" servos, motor will move little... and don't have second stage initialization (2 beep).... the first initialize proven that, all servos and brushless is working... |
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Feb 9 2010, 11:19 PM
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ok .. after u plug in everything and put in the batt
u get only 1 beep and no 2nd beep ... can u move the servos after that ?? or everything not working at all ?? if everything is not working ... then your tx did not bind with the heli rx if servos moving but motor not running then most likely motor kong .. this one hard to say coz kong already oso it will beep ... but only will not run la .. hahahahaa Added on February 9, 2010, 11:21 pmps .. and did u get a SOLID RED LIGHT at the rx ?? no solid red light = no bind This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 9 2010, 11:21 PM |
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Feb 9 2010, 11:29 PM
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Ok.. here's something important to share with 4G6 owner....
NEVER SET YOUR SUB TRIM THROTTLE OVER 30%~~~ I just read from rc group, and found out that many people faced the same problem as me... regarding motor not turning.... CAUSE the sub trim is over 30% and the ESC will not initialize the motor as throttle is not low enough~!!! After been through everything, i changed back the old ESC lower sub trim to 25%....... walla~~!!! I GOT 2nd initializing~!!!! 4G6 is back in business now...!!! |
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Feb 9 2010, 11:33 PM
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so was the original ESC that came with the heli dead or issit the sub trim problem ?? hehehehe
Added on February 9, 2010, 11:34 pmoopps .. saw the OLD ESC ... old ppl like me did not read properly .. hehehe looks like the ori ESC was working fine .. This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 9 2010, 11:34 PM |
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Feb 9 2010, 11:45 PM
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Everything is working fine from the start... just that i set the sub trim to 50% so ESC refuse to initialize the motor...... silly me~
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Feb 10 2010, 07:59 AM
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nvm lah cliffang, with your little mistake you got yourself another spare ESC
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Feb 10 2010, 10:07 AM
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couple of pics of my WIP CHIPMUNK ... hehehe
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Feb 10 2010, 10:32 AM
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Look cool ya... great you got many "kaki" there to fly with...
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Feb 10 2010, 12:21 PM
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well .. some of the kakis are nice to fly with ... some are not
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Feb 10 2010, 02:53 PM
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Normal la~~ many kind of people out there...
I think most probably i'll get to receive my 4G6 parts after CNY~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 10 2010, 02:54 PM |
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Feb 10 2010, 04:14 PM
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me still DO NOT HAVE 4G6
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Feb 10 2010, 06:56 PM
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Me too lah, I have decided to go for 4G6 because it's cheaper to start with and as an add-on advantage, I can use the Tx for my next bigger heli IF I am still with this hobby.
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Feb 10 2010, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 10 2010, 06:56 PM) Me too lah, I have decided to go for 4G6 because it's cheaper to start with and as an add-on advantage, I can use the Tx for my next bigger heli IF I am still with this hobby. Are you sure you're going to use walkera tx for bigger heli?Added on February 10, 2010, 7:39 pm QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 10 2010, 04:14 PM) me still DO NOT HAVE 4G6 Nvm la, you had enough toy for cny.This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 10 2010, 07:39 PM |
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Feb 10 2010, 08:07 PM
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wanted to try and I read from a forum that this Tx is working quite well with some 300, 450 size heli ...... but yet to confirm before I get my hand on it
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Feb 10 2010, 08:46 PM
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wk2801PRO is good for bigger sized helis .. no probs
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Feb 10 2010, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 10 2010, 08:07 PM) wanted to try and I read from a forum that this Tx is working quite well with some 300, 450 size heli ...... but yet to confirm before I get my hand on it I am talking about WK2801 Pro woh ...... your 4G6 came with this Tx? QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 10 2010, 08:46 PM) wk2801PRO is good for bigger sized helis .. no probs No doubt, the 2801 Tx work well with bigger size heli.... i'm unsure about "walkera" since they are not so much into RX,TX... but the RX is not easily obtained in Malaysia... isn't it? Just my 2 cents...But 1 good thing about it.... so much more cheaper than any other brand~  This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 10 2010, 11:03 PM |
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Feb 11 2010, 09:12 AM
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RCG kwai lohs use the wk2801PRO with their bigger helis ... so should be quite ok except can only store 8 models .. plane settings are oso available in the tx but dunno hows the range laaa
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Feb 11 2010, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 11 2010, 09:12 AM) RCG kwai lohs use the wk2801PRO with their bigger helis ... so should be quite ok except can only store 8 models .. plane settings are oso available in the tx but dunno hows the range laaa No doubt, the rx is similiar to SPECK/JR and so do the software.... it should be able to control any aircraft....rx can always import lorr .. usd45 or so for the 2801 rx My own point of view... since the RX,TX is the key element of controlling the aircraft... it should be reliable.... crashing is expensive... Walkera is yet to prove their reliability in the radio industry...... But the good side, it is so much more cheaper for TX/RX... i saw the rx selling at USD 35 (ehirobo).... Anyway getting Walkera TX/RX is like buying a FIxT/(Other not popular car in M'sia)... not so expensive but not common either... not easy to sell, less resources in troubleshooting... I didn't say that the Tx is not good... but just it is yet to prove its reliability in the market... if we gonna use the TX in bigger heli... then really have to make a table and list out the pros and cons.... PS, if my 4G6 could be lighter/ cheaper, without Walkera TX,RX... i would use my JR... QiW, do you agree with me? I can fly a cheapo heli... but i would make sure that the TX/RX is at least 90% reliable... That makes me remind of the ESKY tx... damn drop once and all the signals gone mad like flies..... going to throw it away before CNY to clear up space for my other RC stuffs... |
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Feb 11 2010, 09:58 AM
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being able to fly a 4G6 or 4G3 with spektrum would be really good
most important features of a radio would be the transmission reliability and programming ESKY tx oso i got ... use for simulator only laa .. hahahahaa |
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Feb 11 2010, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 11 2010, 09:58 AM) being able to fly a 4G6 or 4G3 with spektrum would be really good I'm totally agree... but in the end... just fly what you can affort lo.... everything got pros and cons... so just judge it in your own criteria..most important features of a radio would be the transmission reliability and programming ESKY tx oso i got ... use for simulator only laa .. hahahahaa If i got Rm2k to buy a heli... i'll get a RM1300 RX +TX and a <RM700 heli... |
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Feb 11 2010, 12:25 PM
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Yes, totally agree with you guys ......
I plan to use WK2801 PRO for the simulator as well although QiW has perviously pointed out that using Tx with sim could reduce the life span of your Tx. To me I personally feel that it's the right decision for me to go with 4G6 first because the cost it's not high as I am just a beginner. Perhaps I might go away from this hobby once I lost my interest on it ...... Then at the same time, read more review about this Tx for a bigger heli size, am I making a right decision ? |
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Feb 11 2010, 12:45 PM
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hahaha~~ great great...
My 4G6 is working fine now... if need to change RX, most probably i'll SPECK it.... BUT no reason for me to do now... hahaha~ |
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Feb 11 2010, 01:10 PM
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please remember that 4G6 is strictly not a BEGINNER heli ... u will be crashing and repairing more than flying if u have no prior single rotor experience .. hehehehe
to SPEK the 4G6 .. will cost around rm400-500 maybe more depending on what u use .. i calculated already |
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Feb 11 2010, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 11 2010, 01:10 PM) please remember that 4G6 is strictly not a BEGINNER heli ... u will be crashing and repairing more than flying if u have no prior single rotor experience .. hehehehe That's why there's no reason for my to spend another RM500 more just to SPECK it... hahaha... BTW it flew well enough for me...to SPEK the 4G6 .. will cost around rm400-500 maybe more depending on what u use .. i calculated already Just got my LAMA2... |
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Feb 11 2010, 02:52 PM
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the programming features of the wk2801PRO is more than good enuff .. much better than FUTBA 6ex oso .. hahaha
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Feb 11 2010, 03:05 PM
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So now the only question left is "Reliability"~~
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Feb 11 2010, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 11 2010, 01:10 PM) please remember that 4G6 is strictly not a BEGINNER heli ... u will be crashing and repairing more than flying if u have no prior single rotor experience .. hehehehe The Trex 450 leh? Is that for beginner? I remember someone claimed that he is beginner but started to play 450 already to SPEK the 4G6 .. will cost around rm400-500 maybe more depending on what u use .. i calculated already |
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Feb 11 2010, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 11 2010, 03:19 PM) The Trex 450 leh? Is that for beginner? I remember someone claimed that he is beginner but started to play 450 already waaa ... who is that worr sure ah that fella started with 450 ?? 450 actually easier to learn than 4G6 but need bigger space and slightly higher start up costs ... and oso much more dangerous laa ... hahahahaa Added on February 11, 2010, 4:17 pm QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 11 2010, 03:05 PM) So now the only question left is "Reliability"~~ hmmm ... have to wait for someone with the 2801 tx and rx only know liau like thisput the rx in a cheap plane and fly ... see how far it goes ... hahahahaa This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 11 2010, 04:17 PM |
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Feb 11 2010, 04:18 PM
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knn, it's you lah ...... jangan kesi kesi
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Feb 11 2010, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 11 2010, 04:18 PM) knn, it's you lah ...... jangan kesi kesi my 1st CP heli is the 4G3 laa ... crash kow kowspent at least rm600 or more on it b4 i could even hover it ... on the day after i sold it ... i can only do circuits with it never flip or invert anything oso and all that is due to the fact that i spent so much time on the SIMULATOR only can hover the 4G3 after the 4G3 the 450 became much easier ... and it is oso alot more dangerous now the 450 is my primary heli since i am too lazy to work on the KING2 ... will work on the KING2 during CNY holidays i hope .. then i have another heli to flip around ... hahahahahaaaa what is your experience with helis ?? coaxial LAMAs ?? i too HAD a coaxial ... but soon discovered it is NOTHING like a single rotor |
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Feb 11 2010, 04:35 PM
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Hahaha... i bet daddoo have more budget ya...
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Feb 11 2010, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 11 2010, 04:35 PM) Hahaha... i bet daddoo have more budget ya... i agree ... dadoo definitely more budget than me laa .. hahahahaaplanning for multiple helis already |
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Feb 11 2010, 04:39 PM
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daddoo, don't forget to post some pic for us once you got your heli ya...
Added on February 11, 2010, 4:44 pmQiW, still not going to get 4G6? Hobbysportz seems have wor.. This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 11 2010, 04:44 PM |
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Feb 11 2010, 04:53 PM
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yaworr ... hobbysportz has it too ... and with the PRO radio
u should have gotten it locally la ... at least ho headaches and a better radio so no need to worry about out of stock story liau .. hahahaha |
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Feb 11 2010, 05:20 PM
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They brought it in too late la.... i've been playing with it for a month...
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Feb 11 2010, 05:45 PM
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No lah, I am a poor guy so can only afford cheaper RTF package .....
Hehehe, actually I saw this 4G6 on HS already before you guys told me a shop in BTS is selling also ....... But too bad lah, HS don't have stock now according to their reply ... have to wait a few weeks ....... anyway, once I got my 4G6 I will post some open box photo ..... but definitely not the photo of 4G6 flying by pilot daddoo Have to train kow kow in sim first ...... just to get the 4G6 first so that I have the Tx to sim ..... |
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Feb 11 2010, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 11 2010, 05:45 PM) No lah, I am a poor guy so can only afford cheaper RTF package ..... I think you might need a cable for the sim....Hehehe, actually I saw this 4G6 on HS already before you guys told me a shop in BTS is selling also ....... But too bad lah, HS don't have stock now according to their reply ... have to wait a few weeks ....... anyway, once I got my 4G6 I will post some open box photo ..... but definitely not the photo of 4G6 flying by pilot daddoo Have to train kow kow in sim first ...... just to get the 4G6 first so that I have the Tx to sim ..... |
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Feb 11 2010, 11:30 PM
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Hello there everyone. Newbie here. I trying to fly my 1st heli. Its called a Honey Bee 2. I bought it like few weeks ago but i can't go full time so i barely managed to keep the heli in 1 spot (not even a hover yet).
The HB started acting a lil bit wierd lately. It tends to spin counter-clockwise as if the gyro isn't working anymore. I bumped the tail here and there few times and i thought its because of the tail gear worn out so i changed it. but it doesn't help. So is it the tail motor then? T__T 3 days no practice already. hope you guys can give me some tips. thanks ^__^ |
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Feb 12 2010, 02:40 AM
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honeybee FP2 or king2 ??
if it is the FP2 then your tail motor prolly kong liau if it is the king2 .. it could be your belt slipping .. gyro dead .. gear mesh on tail shaft bye bye .. or u accidentally reversed the gyro direction |
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Feb 12 2010, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 11 2010, 10:51 PM) I think you might need a cable for the sim.... Is that the cable connect the Tx to PC's USB port? |
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Feb 12 2010, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 12 2010, 09:25 AM) Is that the cable connect the Tx to PC's USB port? YES .. |
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Feb 12 2010, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(smeasmea @ Feb 11 2010, 11:30 PM) Hello there everyone. Newbie here. I trying to fly my 1st heli. Its called a Honey Bee 2. I bought it like few weeks ago but i can't go full time so i barely managed to keep the heli in 1 spot (not even a hover yet). You can try post some pic of it... it helps to identify the problems...The HB started acting a lil bit wierd lately. It tends to spin counter-clockwise as if the gyro isn't working anymore. I bumped the tail here and there few times and i thought its because of the tail gear worn out so i changed it. but it doesn't help. So is it the tail motor then? T__T 3 days no practice already. hope you guys can give me some tips. thanks ^__^ |
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Feb 12 2010, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 12 2010, 02:40 AM) honeybee FP2 or king2 ?? Its a FP 2. The other day i saw the tail motor base..like abit came out. I pushed it in, it still can spin. I confused on gyro setup as well. >__>if it is the FP2 then your tail motor prolly kong liau if it is the king2 .. it could be your belt slipping .. gyro dead .. gear mesh on tail shaft bye bye .. or u accidentally reversed the gyro direction QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 12 2010, 09:51 AM) You can try post some pic of it... it helps to identify the problems... Ok. At work now. Later i'll prepare some pics. |
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Feb 13 2010, 12:28 AM
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I'm interested in the Shock Flyer~ it look fun... but i have to master orientation first~
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Feb 13 2010, 02:03 AM
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aahh .. the flat body one ??
3D machine leh that one .. can do prop hang oso .. hehehe |
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Feb 13 2010, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 13 2010, 02:03 AM) aahh .. the flat body one ?? Yaya... i like it because it can fly almost at anywhere... but skills required la.....3D machine leh that one .. can do prop hang oso .. hehehe |
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Feb 13 2010, 11:10 AM
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any plane oso will require a big amount of space ... minimum oso about a football field .. if u got super skills then can fly the shock flyer in half football field lorr
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Feb 13 2010, 11:25 AM
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Sure sure.... a lot of skills required... So currently i'll just fly my heli... and get everything right before i move on.... if not those planes will be "whilte elephant"~
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Feb 13 2010, 12:54 PM
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i think once u fly planes your helis MIGHT be white elephant la .. hehehe
very addictive oso leh those planes .. the most addictive part is u can fly is far away and fast .. if heli straight cannot see orientation already unless u flying 700 size .. hehehehe shock flyer too much for u .. u might wanna try to start with something that is ez to land coz landing is the hardest part of flying a plane i suggest high wing plane |
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Feb 13 2010, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 13 2010, 12:54 PM) i think once u fly planes your helis MIGHT be white elephant la .. hehehe Will take your advise... but i won't invest in plane right now... maybe after i master the orientation in heli~ very addictive oso leh those planes .. the most addictive part is u can fly is far away and fast .. if heli straight cannot see orientation already unless u flying 700 size .. hehehehe shock flyer too much for u .. u might wanna try to start with something that is ez to land coz landing is the hardest part of flying a plane i suggest high wing plane Added on February 13, 2010, 1:34 pmMymegastation's website is getting more and more confusing for me.... can't even locate the parts that i'm looking~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 13 2010, 01:34 PM |
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Feb 13 2010, 04:53 PM
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no matter what planes i play oso i still go back to heli .. its the skill tester .. haahaha
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Feb 14 2010, 12:37 AM
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Heli is the best~~
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Feb 14 2010, 01:36 AM
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Ok, time to say Happy Chinese New Year to all! Kong Hee Fat Choy! Good health, long life, happiness and success!
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Feb 14 2010, 10:18 AM
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happy chinese new year everyone !!!
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Feb 15 2010, 12:13 AM
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GONG XI FA CHAI... EVERYONE~~~
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Feb 15 2010, 07:23 PM
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haiyooooo ... my CHIPMUNK maidened and wrecked this morning
the motor was very strong and good ... in fact too strong .. the firewall got ripped out and the prop hit the fuselage and destroyed the front while it was flying in the air .. then it of coz dropped to the ground irreparable damage .. 1 flight and rm300 + 10hours of work gone !!!! nvm .. i am now working on my ULTIMATE EP .. hehehehe see how much i can get done tonite .. or if i can it ALL done tonite .. huahaha WIN SOME LOSE SOME lorrr |
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Feb 15 2010, 07:25 PM
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hmm guys im interested to start flying heli but after reading a few pages i don't really get what is good for beginner leh? hmm any webpage to read or any good reading for starting?
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Feb 15 2010, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 15 2010, 07:23 PM) haiyooooo ... my CHIPMUNK maidened and wrecked this morning Wah~~ okok... got reason to get another new 1 lo~the motor was very strong and good ... in fact too strong .. the firewall got ripped out and the prop hit the fuselage and destroyed the front while it was flying in the air .. then it of coz dropped to the ground irreparable damage .. 1 flight and rm300 + 10hours of work gone !!!! nvm .. i am now working on my ULTIMATE EP .. hehehehe see how much i can get done tonite .. or if i can it ALL done tonite .. huahaha WIN SOME LOSE SOME lorrr Added on February 15, 2010, 10:28 pm QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Feb 15 2010, 07:25 PM) hmm guys im interested to start flying heli but after reading a few pages i don't really get what is good for beginner leh? hmm any webpage to read or any good reading for starting? You can try flying the coax blade heli... such as ESKY Lama... cheap to buy... easy to fly but can't fly outdoor... there's some forums out there...Such as: RC Group, RC Group Malaysia, Malaysia-RC, etc... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 15 2010, 10:30 PM |
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Feb 16 2010, 09:31 PM
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already got my ULTIMATE EP waiting maa .. more than half done
will try and finish it tonite .. IF i can |
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Feb 17 2010, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Feb 15 2010, 07:25 PM) hmm guys im interested to start flying heli but after reading a few pages i don't really get what is good for beginner leh? hmm any webpage to read or any good reading for starting? hi..i just started this hobby too and damn it's addictive. i started out with a colco 4ch apache and now flying an esky dauphin/comanche too. i'd say these coax are pretty good for beginners or someone who just wants to fly stuff but don't want to get too serious. pro's and con's between these 2 models?colco's apache: + more stable than esky LAMA due to its weight + body is more durable + looks way cooler - you'll be proud to fly these things + compatible with some of esky's parts - parts are hard to come by therefore hard to upgrade too - no simulator included - hard to dismantle esky's lamav4/dauphin/comanche: + interchangeable chasis/fuselage - you can swap the chasis/fuselage + parts are easy to get + easy to upgrade and dismantle + full package with simulator and stuff - chasis/fuselage are made of soft plastic, easily dmg - kinda light, so it can't withstand too much wind good to know i'm not the only beginner here good luck on your 1st hover. |
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Feb 17 2010, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 16 2010, 09:31 PM) already got my ULTIMATE EP waiting maa .. more than half done Great... can fly now then~ will try and finish it tonite .. IF i can |
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Feb 17 2010, 06:24 PM
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burnt the midnite oil last nite .. only 1 hour sleep to rush my ULTIMATE EP
maidened this morning !!! slow show off flye la the ULTIMATE .. there were 3 ULTIMATEs there this morning .. 2 maidened .. mine had the most powerful motor and therefore the fastest ... not a good thing for a show off flyer la Added on February 17, 2010, 6:25 pm QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Feb 17 2010, 11:29 AM) hi..i just started this hobby too and damn it's addictive. i started out with a colco 4ch apache and now flying an esky dauphin/comanche too. i'd say these coax are pretty good for beginners or someone who just wants to fly stuff but don't want to get too serious. pro's and con's between these 2 models? wait until u get your taste of single rotor helis .. hehehehecolco's apache: + more stable than esky LAMA due to its weight + body is more durable + looks way cooler - you'll be proud to fly these things + compatible with some of esky's parts - parts are hard to come by therefore hard to upgrade too - no simulator included - hard to dismantle esky's lamav4/dauphin/comanche: + interchangeable chasis/fuselage - you can swap the chasis/fuselage + parts are easy to get + easy to upgrade and dismantle + full package with simulator and stuff - chasis/fuselage are made of soft plastic, easily dmg - kinda light, so it can't withstand too much wind good to know i'm not the only beginner here good luck on your 1st hover.coaxials do not even come close This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 17 2010, 06:25 PM |
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Feb 18 2010, 08:43 PM
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great~
More and more is coming into this hobby~~ |
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Feb 19 2010, 08:47 AM
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anybody knows where i can buy a FUTABA T8FG ???
looks like everywhere oso no stock laa |
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Feb 19 2010, 10:06 AM
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wow... QiW going to invest in high-end radio~~
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Feb 19 2010, 10:40 AM
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it is the same price as a DSX7 laa .. rm1.3k or so
not high end radio .. its an alternative to dx7 |
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Feb 19 2010, 05:08 PM
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Really that cheap?? 8+2 channel wor~
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Feb 19 2010, 06:36 PM
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yup ... its 8 propo channels + 2 switch channels
already found it and bought it this afternoon .. hahahahahaa now have to start hunting for cheapest receivers |
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Feb 20 2010, 10:28 AM
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Wow.... that's fast....
You got any SPECK rx selling cheap? |
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Feb 20 2010, 12:58 PM
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i will be selling all the SPEK rx once i sell the radio
now waiting for radio to be sold ... tomoro will be getting more FASST rx for my new radio .. spend $$$ there goes my budget for the 4G6 |
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I just got myself an inexpensive Syma S032 for RM155. lol... Kinda enjoyable to play around.
Does the charger has polarity? I can fit the square connector in either way. This post has been edited by mengsuan: Feb 21 2010, 04:11 PM |
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Feb 21 2010, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 21 2010, 04:04 PM) I just got myself an inexpensive Syma S032 for RM155. lol... Kinda enjoyable to play around. yes .. it has polarity coz its DC power supplyDoes the charger has polarity? I can fit the square connector in either way. not sure what it does if plugged in incorrectly though .. hahaha |
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Feb 21 2010, 07:24 PM
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I tried both way. Lol.. Nothing burnt.
From my observation, when it is plugged correctly, the DC adaptor's LED will turn off and later turn on when full. If plugged incorrectly, the LED will just stay on. I took it out to grass land for a spin. The wind was too strong, it blew my heli away and it chunked into the land. The rotors are not broken but chipped |
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Feb 21 2010, 09:17 PM
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those coaxials are not meant to be flown in the wind .. even super mini wind will blow it off course
its for indoor use WITHOUT fan .. hehehe |
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Feb 21 2010, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 20 2010, 12:58 PM) i will be selling all the SPEK rx once i sell the radio If you plan to sell some light weight Rx, just let me know then... now waiting for radio to be sold ... tomoro will be getting more FASST rx for my new radio .. spend $$$ there goes my budget for the 4G6 |
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Feb 21 2010, 10:54 PM
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I'm just starting to observe the helicopter. Why is there only one connector (marked with red arrow) to the balance bar? The other side has the same ball shape but the connector is just not there. Is this correct by design or the other connector got chunked into the ground? Lol.. The helicopter claims that it has gyroscopic stabilizer. I still find the helicopter pitching backward sometimes. I screwed up the gyro in the crashes? Haha.. I guess I have to go service it within a week already. This post has been edited by mengsuan: Feb 21 2010, 11:44 PM |
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Feb 22 2010, 10:26 AM
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pitching in any direction needs trimming on the radio .. quite normal especially for RTF kits
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Feb 22 2010, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 21 2010, 10:54 PM)
I'm just starting to observe the helicopter. Why is there only one connector (marked with red arrow) to the balance bar? The other side has the same ball shape but the connector is just not there. Is this correct by design or the other connector got chunked into the ground? Lol.. The helicopter claims that it has gyroscopic stabilizer. I still find the helicopter pitching backward sometimes. I screwed up the gyro in the crashes? Haha.. I guess I have to go service it within a week already. |
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Feb 22 2010, 01:54 PM
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it is normal for the heli of THAT CALIBER to have a single linkage to the flybar u should have said .. hehehehe
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Feb 22 2010, 03:44 PM
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Oh so what if I add another linkage?
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Feb 22 2010, 04:14 PM
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anyone play this model before?
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Feb 22 2010, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 22 2010, 03:44 PM) Oh so what if I add another linkage? for your heli .. no difference .. heheheheAdded on February 22, 2010, 4:49 pm QUOTE(takashishinohara @ Feb 22 2010, 04:14 PM) anyone play this model before? whats that ?? 4D number ah ?? 5588-m1 put la full brand etc etc .. This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 22 2010, 04:49 PM |
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Feb 22 2010, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 22 2010, 03:44 PM) Oh so what if I add another linkage? Don't need that.... Added on February 22, 2010, 5:03 pm QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 22 2010, 04:48 PM) Added on February 22, 2010, 4:49 pm whats that ?? 4D number ah ?? put la full brand etc etc .. http://www.jasonr.com.cn/athena/offerdetai...-610305406.html 3 channel, Size 300... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 22 2010, 05:03 PM |
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Feb 22 2010, 05:54 PM
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Where do you guys normally purchase your helicopter and its parts? Any reliable well known places?
If a helicopter does not have gyro (or malfunction), what are the characteristics apparent to the user? Spinning body? |
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Feb 22 2010, 08:59 PM
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yaw and drift on its own when the gyro is no longer good
if gyro totally dead then the heli will prolly spin uncontrollably .. most of the shops only carry psares for ESKY coaxials .. other coaxials very unlikely to be able to find spares unless u use parts that are compatible with esky Added on February 22, 2010, 9:00 pm QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 22 2010, 05:00 PM) Don't need that.... size 300 coax ah ??Added on February 22, 2010, 5:03 pm I think he means this~ http://www.jasonr.com.cn/athena/offerdetai...-610305406.html 3 channel, Size 300... thats esky lama size liau lorr almost .... no experience with that one This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 22 2010, 09:00 PM |
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Feb 22 2010, 09:28 PM
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Then I'll make sure the next helicopter I buy is an E-Sky. That is after I master flying my current inexpensive helicopter.
Where is the shop you guys go for reasonable-priced E-Sky? This hobby is poisonous. I'm already eyeing for something like Honey Bee. This post has been edited by mengsuan: Feb 22 2010, 10:11 PM |
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Feb 22 2010, 11:38 PM
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IMHO, get Align instead. consider cheap, easy to get spare parts and better built quality than esky.
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Feb 22 2010, 11:52 PM
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I am open to all brands. most importantly must have spare parts and support available easily. how much should I be expecting to pay for a 4 ch helicopter from align? where or who can I buy it from?
Added on February 23, 2010, 12:06 amhow much are those esky lama? This post has been edited by mengsuan: Feb 23 2010, 12:06 AM |
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Feb 23 2010, 01:03 AM
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i think ALIGN do not make 4 channel helis laa ... 6 channels easily available and more fun to fly .. hehehe
but of coz oso more costly and easier to crash laa esky lamas could be gotten for as low as rm170 i think |
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Feb 23 2010, 06:59 AM
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Oh, so Align is actually catered for more professional users and I should expect them far beyond RM500?
If I had known that E-Sky Lama cost about RM200 or less, I definitely would have gotten it. Ish.. Now I only got a 3 ch helicopter. Surprisingly the E-Sky Lama has no tail rotor. |
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Feb 23 2010, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 22 2010, 06:00 PM) Don't need that.... is 3.5 channel, may i ask this can play more than half hour? as the people say that and i saw manual cd say only 7 minutes.Added on February 22, 2010, 5:03 pm I think he means this~ http://www.jasonr.com.cn/athena/offerdetai...-610305406.html 3 channel, Size 300... |
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Feb 23 2010, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 23 2010, 06:59 AM) Oh, so Align is actually catered for more professional users and I should expect them far beyond RM500? coaxials do not need tail rotor ..If I had known that E-Sky Lama cost about RM200 or less, I definitely would have gotten it. Ish.. Now I only got a 3 ch helicopter. Surprisingly the E-Sky Lama has no tail rotor. in fact the ones with the tail rotor more headache coz got additional motor to die .. the esky lama is 4 channel .. meaning u have control in ALL directions Added on February 23, 2010, 9:54 am QUOTE(takashishinohara @ Feb 23 2010, 09:40 AM) is 3.5 channel, may i ask this can play more than half hour? as the people say that and i saw manual cd say only 7 minutes. most electric helis fly from around 4min to 10mins depending on setupof coz u van play more than 30mins .. all u need is many batteries lorr .. hehehe This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 23 2010, 09:54 AM |
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Feb 23 2010, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 23 2010, 06:59 AM) Oh, so Align is actually catered for more professional users and I should expect them far beyond RM500? if you check my post a few pages back, you'll know why esky is the better option. If I had known that E-Sky Lama cost about RM200 or less, I definitely would have gotten it. Ish.. Now I only got a 3 ch helicopter. Surprisingly the E-Sky Lama has no tail rotor. although their LAMA design is not that great, but the ability to change fuselage between the LAMA v4, dauphin and comanche is just too great to past. buy one heli, buy some extra parts and voila! your heli can change appearance anytime you want. plus, it's easy to disassemble. QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 23 2010, 09:52 AM) Added on February 23, 2010, 9:54 am most electric helis fly from around 4min to 10mins depending on setup of coz u van play more than 30mins .. all u need is many batteries lorr .. hehehe |
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Feb 23 2010, 11:21 AM
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yes .. BRUSHED motors will die after short while
whether u let it cool down or not .. its the nature of the motor thats why long term players go for brushless setup .. but totally not worth it for lama coz the brushless setup prolly cost more than the lama already .. hahahahaahaa 30mins >>>> multiple batteries laaaa |
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Feb 23 2010, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 23 2010, 09:52 AM) coaxials do not need tail rotor .. Lol. I was just curious because my coaxial has tail rotor. in fact the ones with the tail rotor more headache coz got additional motor to die .. the esky lama is 4 channel .. meaning u have control in ALL directions Added on February 23, 2010, 9:54 am most electric helis fly from around 4min to 10mins depending on setup of coz u van play more than 30mins .. all u need is many batteries lorr .. hehehe I'll get an E-Sky Lama after I can fly my helicopter properly. I don't want to crash a new helicopter/ |
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Feb 23 2010, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 23 2010, 11:21 AM) yes .. BRUSHED motors will die after short while but is it really possible to fly a LAMA for 30mins continuously(upgrade and extra batteries included-assuming not brushless) without shortening the motor life? not possible, right?whether u let it cool down or not .. its the nature of the motor thats why long term players go for brushless setup .. but totally not worth it for lama coz the brushless setup prolly cost more than the lama already .. hahahahaahaa 30mins >>>> multiple batteries laaaa This post has been edited by zeroglyph: Feb 23 2010, 11:59 AM |
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Feb 23 2010, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Feb 23 2010, 11:59 AM) but is it really possible to fly a LAMA for 30mins continuously(upgrade and extra batteries included-assuming not brushless) without shortening the motor life? not possible, right? u eat 3 meals a day minimum rite ??can u eat it all at the same time ?? it is possible .. but will have its effects laa .. haiyooooooo please tell what does not breakdown or spoil over wear and tear ?? even brushless motor oso kong la after wear and tear ... i managed to kill 2 brushless motors in 1 week Added on February 23, 2010, 12:18 pm QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 23 2010, 11:48 AM) Lol. I was just curious because my coaxial has tail rotor. the controls will prolly be abit different from what u have on your 3 channelI'll get an E-Sky Lama after I can fly my helicopter properly. I don't want to crash a new helicopter/ your 3 channel radio prolly have throttle on the left and only goes up down and the right stick goes in all direction ?? the 4 channel has both stick being able to go in all directions .. This post has been edited by QiW: Feb 23 2010, 12:18 PM |
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Feb 23 2010, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 23 2010, 12:17 PM) u eat 3 meals a day minimum rite ?? dude, don't have to be so cocky la. i get what you mean, all i'm saying is, it's not really advisable to fly for 30mins continuously on any type of motors because it'll shorten the motors' life span. it's the same thing as ur "not eating all 3 meals in at the same time" .can u eat it all at the same time ?? it is possible .. but will have its effects laa .. haiyooooooo please tell what does not breakdown or spoil over wear and tear ?? even brushless motor oso kong la after wear and tear ... i managed to kill 2 brushless motors in 1 week |
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Feb 23 2010, 01:36 PM
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u asked one ma .. so i have to put it in a way u can imagine laa .. hahahaha
no matter what ... brushed motors have very limited life span |
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Feb 23 2010, 02:02 PM
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Wow... seems like more people are into this hobby~~
Great... always can find this thread on the 1st page.. Btw, ESKY is a great choice for coax.... easy to fly, easy availability of parts... AND... More upgrades available too.. |
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Feb 23 2010, 03:21 PM
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anybody interested in a spektrum dx7 radio ???
the longer i keep it at home the more dust it is going to collect laa .. hahaha |
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Feb 23 2010, 05:36 PM
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Why do you want to sell it?
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Feb 23 2010, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 23 2010, 05:36 PM) Why do you want to sell it? He just upgrade to a better radio~~  |
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Feb 23 2010, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 23 2010, 02:02 PM) Wow... seems like more people are into this hobby~~ Ya, I just got into this hobby too. Love it. I hope you guys can pardon my lack of knowledge and guide me along too.Great... always can find this thread on the 1st page.. Btw, ESKY is a great choice for coax.... easy to fly, easy availability of parts... AND... More upgrades available too.. |
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Feb 23 2010, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 23 2010, 07:09 PM) Ya, I just got into this hobby too. Love it. I hope you guys can pardon my lack of knowledge and guide me along too. There's more forums out there on Malaysia RC, you can try google out some... Over the forums, you'll learn more.. |
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Feb 23 2010, 09:37 PM
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Will browse around real soon.
I am slightly disappointed with my helicopter. Claimed to have gyro stabilizer but it's drifting over the sides (usually towards its own right) and back/forward sometimes (random). My 3ch remote trim function is only for rotating left and right, which could not be used to stabilize the helicopter. I also took a step to dismantle the helicopter, hoping to find the motor proportional dial to match both motor speed but no trim pots on the PCB circuit. Neither I found any gyro-like device or settings. |
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Feb 23 2010, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 23 2010, 09:37 PM) Will browse around real soon. u can see all the wires from motor and servos (the thing that moves the linkages) going to this little small rectangular thingI am slightly disappointed with my helicopter. Claimed to have gyro stabilizer but it's drifting over the sides (usually towards its own right) and back/forward sometimes (random). My 3ch remote trim function is only for rotating left and right, which could not be used to stabilize the helicopter. I also took a step to dismantle the helicopter, hoping to find the motor proportional dial to match both motor speed but no trim pots on the PCB circuit. Neither I found any gyro-like device or settings. its called a 4 in 1 or 3 in 1 ... its a receiver and gyro and mixer u can look for pots (dial thingies) and try to turn it slightly to see if the 2 motors rotate in synchro better that is the thing that determines how well the heli performs at that level ESKY lamas are similar (most lamas actually .. hehehehe) when u go up another level .. all this becomes separated (just like home theatre with mix and match amps speakers etc etc) so u can purchase separate gyros servos receivers etc etc .. |
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Feb 23 2010, 10:40 PM
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Any chance that a helicopter does not have pots for adjustment? Because I did open up mine and found no pot to turn.
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Feb 23 2010, 11:34 PM
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then tough luck .. not adjustable or its hidden inside the wrapping
up to u to whether open it up and play around or let it be i know the esky ones are adjustable la ... |
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Feb 24 2010, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 23 2010, 02:03 AM) i think ALIGN do not make 4 channel helis laa ... 6 channels easily available and more fun to fly .. hehehe where u got that price??but of coz oso more costly and easier to crash laa esky lamas could be gotten for as low as rm170 i think is it 4ch or 6ch? |
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Feb 24 2010, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(zulboydarn @ Feb 24 2010, 08:53 AM) where u got that price?? Try google "Mymegastation"~ is it 4ch or 6ch? |
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Feb 24 2010, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(zulboydarn @ Feb 24 2010, 08:53 AM) where u got that price?? look here ... http://mymegastation.com/t1/parts-acc-heli...searchgroup=147is it 4ch or 6ch? or if the place is inconvenient to u then u can try PJ area .. http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...t.asp?catID=367 |
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Feb 24 2010, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 23 2010, 10:40 PM) Any chance that a helicopter does not have pots for adjustment? Because I did open up mine and found no pot to turn. Maybe it's time to upgrade into better heli, if you are really into this hobby~ Try getting the RTF + sim cable... |
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Feb 24 2010, 11:51 AM
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yeah .. flying a coax is nothing like flying a single rotor other than learning orientations perhaps
a RTF will get u started .. but in the long term a good radio and well design heli will take u much further .. at a much higher price la of coz .. hahahaha btw .. my dx7 will COD this evening .. buyer might want additional rx's so i dunno if there will be any left for sale .. hahahaha |
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Feb 24 2010, 12:22 PM
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thanks dude!!
Added on February 24, 2010, 12:23 pmwhats d different between lama v3 and v4?? and which is better? sorri for my nood Q... This post has been edited by zulboydarn: Feb 24 2010, 12:23 PM |
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Feb 24 2010, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 24 2010, 11:51 AM) yeah .. flying a coax is nothing like flying a single rotor other than learning orientations perhaps It's ok... i'm not in rush for the RX either... thanks ya...a RTF will get u started .. but in the long term a good radio and well design heli will take u much further .. at a much higher price la of coz .. hahahaha btw .. my dx7 will COD this evening .. buyer might want additional rx's so i dunno if there will be any left for sale .. hahahaha QUOTE(zulboydarn @ Feb 24 2010, 12:22 PM) thanks dude!! Basically not much different.... just like car company, after facelift another version.... most important is the availability of spare parts, new model will tend to have more spare parts than the older 1..Added on February 24, 2010, 12:23 pmwhats d different between lama v3 and v4?? and which is better? sorri for my nood Q... |
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Feb 24 2010, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 24 2010, 11:51 AM) yeah .. flying a coax is nothing like flying a single rotor other than learning orientations perhaps In your opinion, do you think that E-Sky Lama v3/4 is a well design helicopter that serves for a long term?a RTF will get u started .. but in the long term a good radio and well design heli will take u much further .. at a much higher price la of coz .. hahahaha btw .. my dx7 will COD this evening .. buyer might want additional rx's so i dunno if there will be any left for sale .. hahahaha The Esky Lama v3 looks better for me but v4 fuselage looks more reliable. I've been flying everyday, so I'm really into the idea of getting a good helicopter. Thanks for the mymegastore link. Their Esky lama is very cheap. This post has been edited by mengsuan: Feb 24 2010, 03:53 PM |
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Feb 24 2010, 05:23 PM
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LAMA motors are brushed motors ... they do not last as long as u would like
to convert them to brushless will prolly cost more than the heli set itself it is good as a intro to heli .. thats it .. most ppl would outgrow it in a month or less ... but the good thing is it can teach u about orientations and nothing else .. hahahaha |
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Feb 24 2010, 07:22 PM
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For those Lama V4, are the gyro replaceable with upgraded head lock gyro etc? Or are those 4-in-1 circuit that cannot be modified?
Added on February 24, 2010, 7:48 pmBig Lama is also similar to Lama V4 but just bigger? Also having gyro right? This post has been edited by mengsuan: Feb 24 2010, 07:48 PM |
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Feb 24 2010, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 24 2010, 07:22 PM) For those Lama V4, are the gyro replaceable with upgraded head lock gyro etc? Or are those 4-in-1 circuit that cannot be modified? note that there are differences in transmitter too. a 2.4Ghz is more expensive. so a LAMA v4 with a 2.4Ghz tx/rx is more expensive than a standard FM LAMA. i'd say go for a LAMA v4. it's much more easier to find parts for it. plus, the v3 looks really lame Added on February 24, 2010, 7:48 pmBig Lama is also similar to Lama V4 but just bigger? Also having gyro right? .the LAMA fuselage is made of soft plastic, it'll crack quite easily. |
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Feb 24 2010, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 24 2010, 07:22 PM) For those Lama V4, are the gyro replaceable with upgraded head lock gyro etc? Or are those 4-in-1 circuit that cannot be modified? the gyro cannot be replacedAdded on February 24, 2010, 7:48 pmBig Lama is also similar to Lama V4 but just bigger? Also having gyro right? any circuit can be modified ... it only works if u know how .. hehehe BIG LAMA is exactly what it says .. BIG |
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Feb 25 2010, 06:51 PM
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Everyone busy flying???
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Feb 25 2010, 06:52 PM
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Flying and considering to buy Esky Lama V4
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Feb 26 2010, 12:37 AM
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just got myself another plane
bargain basement price .. size 50 P-51 mustang with wingspan of 57inches !! it will be a nitro machine .. my 1st .. huahahaha |
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Feb 26 2010, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 25 2010, 06:52 PM) Flying and considering to buy Esky Lama V4 Wow... great... where do you fly then?QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 26 2010, 12:37 AM) just got myself another plane Nitro~~!! bargain basement price .. size 50 P-51 mustang with wingspan of 57inches !! it will be a nitro machine .. my 1st .. huahahaha wow.... finally upgrade ya...? |
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Feb 26 2010, 12:26 PM
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Flying in my parents room
I tried flying outdoors but I couldn't control the helicopter when wind blows. |
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Feb 26 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 26 2010, 12:26 PM) Flying in my parents room Then you must be quite an expert to fly in room~ I tried flying outdoors but I couldn't control the helicopter when wind blows. |
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Feb 26 2010, 01:47 PM
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u can fly the lama anywhere indoors where there is no wind
when the wind blows then the lama goes wherever it blows .. hahahaha the size 50 mustang might be on hold keep in store .. might wanan try to project a smaller nitro machine 1st .. hehehe |
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Feb 27 2010, 09:17 AM
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LAMA is fun and relax to fly in the house too...
QiW: Aren't you going to get a nitro Heli? |
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Feb 27 2010, 01:49 PM
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no la ... nitro heli is not what i have in mind
might wanna try mod a smaller size 10-15 EP plane kit to nitro and see how it goes 1st .. but of coz will use oversized engines for REMPIT laa .. hahahaha |
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Feb 27 2010, 02:47 PM
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busy to wait for the stock to be available .... if still cant get 4G6 by mid of march, might switch to Belt CP V2
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Feb 27 2010, 03:19 PM
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Damn it. My heli can't fly high and it's rotating like crazy and needs 90degree trim. I think something really died. I'm going to the place that I bought the heli to get repair.
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Feb 27 2010, 03:21 PM
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i always see them play at lvl 7 times square, felt like buying one also >_<;;. then can weeeee~
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Feb 27 2010, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 27 2010, 01:49 PM) no la ... nitro heli is not what i have in mind Wow... oversized engine = MORE POWER = FASTER speed = HIGHER momentom = ????might wanna try mod a smaller size 10-15 EP plane kit to nitro and see how it goes 1st .. but of coz will use oversized engines for REMPIT laa .. hahahaha Don't forget to show some pic of the process too~~ QUOTE(daddoo @ Feb 27 2010, 02:47 PM) busy to wait for the stock to be available .... if still cant get 4G6 by mid of march, might switch to Belt CP V2 Belt CP V2? I had Belt CP before... all i can say... not worth the money... better get a Honey Bee King 2...This one good ar? PS: Belt CP (Size 400) have the same rotor head as Honey Bee King 2 (Size 300) ESKY Tx sucks too... QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 27 2010, 03:19 PM) Damn it. My heli can't fly high and it's rotating like crazy and needs 90degree trim. I think something really died. I'm going to the place that I bought the heli to get repair. I think you should get a new heli... how about 4#6? unsure if M'sia got or not la... hehehe... QUOTE(golbeza @ Feb 27 2010, 03:21 PM) i always see them play at lvl 7 times square, felt like buying one also >_<;;. then can weeeee~ Look fun?? It's more fun flying around... Added on February 27, 2010, 5:27 pmMy next project would be SPECK the 4G6~~ the RX2609 gyro is modable to be used with SPECK~ Mymegastation doesn't seems to be selling micro JST anymore... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Feb 27 2010, 05:27 PM |
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I think I have to prepare to fork out some money for another helicopter. My heli is dead after 6 days of hard training and I've just sent it for repair (because I don't know where to get the parts). Expected to get a phone call quoting the price of repair on Tuesday.
Anything above RM50 for repair, I'll just get another helicopter. Assuming helicopter is no longer worth to repair, RM155/5 days of operation=RM31. RM31/day hobby sort of make me in-confident to buy another helicopter. I don't crash it recently, but I do fly a lot in a day. Perhaps I burn the motors or the 4-in-1. cliffang83, what is 4#6? This post has been edited by mengsuan: Feb 27 2010, 08:20 PM |
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Feb 27 2010, 08:27 PM
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Walkera 4#6 is a micro fixed pitch single rotor heli... you can try google it out... but unsure if M'sia got or not la...
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 27 2010, 05:22 PM) Belt CP V2? I had Belt CP before... all i can say... not worth the money... better get a Honey Bee King 2... PS: Belt CP (Size 400) have the same rotor head as Honey Bee King 2 (Size 300) ESKY Tx sucks too... Added on February 27, 2010, 5:27 pmMy next project would be SPECK the 4G6~~ the RX2609 gyro is modable to be used with SPECK~ Mymegastation doesn't seems to be selling micro JST anymore... |
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Feb 27 2010, 10:14 PM
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4#6 is available is time square i heard ...
but i dunno how good for beginner laa .. tail gears are similar to 4G6 and beginners will strip them more than they like what so bad about belt CP ?? get it then u know la .. hahahaha so many have started with the BCP and have moved on .. its flyable with a programmable radio which cost more than the BCP itself so why not get something that will stay and grow with u ?? as for the coaxial .. it runs on BRUSHED motors .. wears out really quick and then u have to get replacement .. it u know how to DIY then its cheap to just replace both motors from your nearby electronics shop with similar sized/spec ones .. otherwise u will prolly kena PARANG .. hahahaa as for my EP to nitro conversion .. just spoke to an OLD HAND with nitros this morning .. really really need to oversize in order to rempit the size 10-15 EP planes .. maybe not worth it coz bigger planes (not branded ones) are cheap but does not look so nice la ... so KIV while i let my impulsive side rest ... hahahahaa |
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Feb 27 2010, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 27 2010, 08:27 PM) Walkera 4#6 is a micro fixed pitch single rotor heli... you can try google it out... but unsure if M'sia got or not la... The Walkera 4#6 (http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=334_90&products_id=8707) is indeed a looker.I have several possible path to follow for my RC Helicopter hobby: 1. Repair the old helicopter 2. Buy a new 4ch/6ch heli (either Esky Lama v4/Honey Bee King II) 3. Buy a micro heli that last long and is virtually indestructible 4. Quit Esky Lama v4 is within my consideration because it has simulator and it's cheap. Honey Bee King II is a tad bit more expensive which makes me consider more. I am also considering micro helicopters. I wish to find something stable, long-running per charge, long lasting, extreme low maintenance. My current 370mm heli is too big to fly in my own small room. |
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Feb 28 2010, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 27 2010, 10:14 PM) as for my EP to nitro conversion .. just spoke to an OLD HAND with nitros this morning .. really really need to oversize in order to rempit the size 10-15 EP planes .. maybe not worth it coz bigger planes (not branded ones) are cheap but does not look so nice la ... so KIV while i let my impulsive side rest ... hahahahaa QiW not getting 500 size heli or bigger ar? Already concentrate in planes?QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 27 2010, 10:14 PM) The Walkera 4#6 (http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=334_90&products_id=8707) is indeed a looker. Micro heli will not be as stable as you think, which it might be more sensitive to control than your coax, but less sensitive to wind...I have several possible path to follow for my RC Helicopter hobby: 1. Repair the old helicopter 2. Buy a new 4ch/6ch heli (either Esky Lama v4/Honey Bee King II) 3. Buy a micro heli that last long and is virtually indestructible 4. Quit Esky Lama v4 is within my consideration because it has simulator and it's cheap. Honey Bee King II is a tad bit more expensive which makes me consider more. I am also considering micro helicopters. I wish to find something stable, long-running per charge, long lasting, extreme low maintenance. My current 370mm heli is too big to fly in my own small room. What's your budget then? Repair/maintenance cost should be considered too, just like buying cars.. |
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Feb 28 2010, 11:42 AM
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not dont wanna play size 500 heli .. timing not here yet .. hahahaha
actually i already standby a receiver for 500ESP .. just a matter of time now the place where i fly plane rempit fever maa .. i oso kena fever ma .. hahahahaa |
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Feb 28 2010, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Feb 28 2010, 10:40 AM) QiW not getting 500 size heli or bigger ar? Already concentrate in planes? I hope to find something within RM100-RM300 range, considering that I will also have to maintain it, perhaps every month. If micro heli are less sensitive to wind, so it does work better outdoors? Sounds good!Micro heli will not be as stable as you think, which it might be more sensitive to control than your coax, but less sensitive to wind... What's your budget then? Repair/maintenance cost should be considered too, just like buying cars.. |
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Feb 28 2010, 02:22 PM
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the smaller the heli the more sensitive is is to wind/breeze
coaxials are the same .. but they lack the power to fight the wind compared to single rotors of similar size 100-300 budget .. hmmmmmmmm i am afraid u can only get coaxial helis RTF .. then get an ESKY lama v3/v4 it comes with a simulator cable and free simulator .. u can learn to fly on that on your PC and the included radio .. this should train u abit for single rotors .. hehehehe |
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Feb 28 2010, 06:15 PM
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Anyone know where to repair LCD screen? my Futaba 10CG's LCD screen info totally disappear
everything fade off....KNN it less than a year old. |
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Feb 28 2010, 07:07 PM
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LCD screen is not likely be repairable. The only thing you can do is to replace it, I guess you have to send it back or else you find out the part inside and get it yourself.
Usually the LCD wires are connected with a connector, eventhough there is no connector I don't think it is hard to solder since the wires are not that much. |
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Feb 28 2010, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 28 2010, 02:22 PM) the smaller the heli the more sensitive is is to wind/breeze How long does the esky lama v4 brush motor last? Would it be 5 days like my Syma?coaxials are the same .. but they lack the power to fight the wind compared to single rotors of similar size 100-300 budget .. hmmmmmmmm i am afraid u can only get coaxial helis RTF .. then get an ESKY lama v3/v4 it comes with a simulator cable and free simulator .. u can learn to fly on that on your PC and the included radio .. this should train u abit for single rotors .. hehehehe |
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Feb 28 2010, 11:27 PM
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i think it would be longer laa .. maybe 2-3 weeks b4 performance starts to degrade depending on how often u fly .. hehehe
but at least u would be able to buy those motors at most RC shops locally |
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Mar 1 2010, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Feb 28 2010, 11:16 PM) How long does the esky lama v4 brush motor last? Would it be 5 days like my Syma? ESKY should last longer than your Syma...I think you can get quite a bargin offer from local R/C forums... For me, i've setup my lama2 to work with WK2601 (Used for 4g6) So, now left of sourcing to Speck my 4G6.. Added on March 1, 2010, 12:33 pmI'm having hard time sourcing for Micro JST connector in M'sia... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 1 2010, 12:33 PM |
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Mar 1 2010, 02:53 PM
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i oso dunno where to find micro JST servo connectors ... but u should not have to la ... the walkera servos can take 5v input and they are already micro JST .. all u need is the ar6300 .. or alternatively u can change your servos to normal servo connectors and use normal ar6100 etc rx laaa
but that will all add quite some weight to the 4G6 ... not forgetting u will need the voltage booster as well Added on March 1, 2010, 2:54 pmps .. i am selling off my old dsm2 ar6100 and ar6110e at rm150 each new ar6110e oso i have a couple .. those are rm200 each This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 1 2010, 02:54 PM |
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Mar 1 2010, 03:48 PM
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I just asked the Megastation... they still have the micro JST, but don't know if that's the JST i needed...
I need the micro JST for the voltage booster (1 male) + gyro (2 male, 1 female) Regarding the Rx... Reserve the AR6100 for me... can? will confirm with you tomorrow (2/3/2010) |
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Mar 1 2010, 03:53 PM
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ar6100 got buyer coming to COD tonite ...
if he FFK then i let u know la .. hahahaha actually the ar6110e is newer and FEELS more stable IMO ... but this is all personal choice la of coz |
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Mar 1 2010, 05:04 PM
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You let me know lo... I prefer AR6100 because of the plug in position...
I also have AR6110e... anyway... just let me know then.. If not i'll just import the AR6300 + micro JST from OSH then... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 1 2010, 05:05 PM |
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Mar 2 2010, 12:12 AM
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would smaller helicopters be lighter and hence longer lasting motor due to lower load?
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Mar 2 2010, 01:25 AM
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smaller helis have smaller motors .. so workload should be about the same as big helis
but in bigger helis u have more choices of motors with more power etc etc so the favour of longer lasting motors stays with the bigger ones i am afraid |
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Mar 2 2010, 09:24 AM
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I'm agree with QiW...
For bigger heli, we can use bigger lipo for longer fly time and power, as weight is not a big issue as long as you setup the heli correctly.... adding another 50g will not have much effect... But for a smaller heli, weight is a mojor issue which you want to keep it as light as possible... adding another 10g the heli might not lift off the ground... The concept is the same as big car and small car... Big car have big engine and big fuel tank, small car have small engine and small fuel tank, both with full tank will only travel average of 500km... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 2 2010, 09:25 AM |
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Mar 2 2010, 10:59 AM
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big car with big engine can move 4 ppl easily .. small car with small engine carry 4 ppl super slow already
that explains the power to weight ratio situation if u still wanna stick with coaxials ... then for size+price+parts >>> ESKY |
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Mar 3 2010, 08:56 AM
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The news about RC aeroplane is up. Big news it seems.
No one inform me of my RC heli yet. I'll go KL today to get it back first. |
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Mar 3 2010, 09:58 AM
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Guyz,where can i get Syma S107 parts in KL??My main motor that connect with the upper blade just went kaput
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Mar 3 2010, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(aliftaufiq @ Mar 3 2010, 09:58 AM) Guyz,where can i get Syma S107 parts in KL??My main motor that connect with the upper blade just went kaput sorry ... no idea laa |
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Mar 3 2010, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 3 2010, 08:56 AM) The news about RC aeroplane is up. Big news it seems. Got your ESKY?No one inform me of my RC heli yet. I'll go KL today to get it back first. |
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Mar 3 2010, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Feb 27 2010, 10:14 PM) 4#6 is available is time square i heard ... how much for 4#6?but i dunno how good for beginner laa .. tail gears are similar to 4G6 and beginners will strip them more than they like what so bad about belt CP ?? get it then u know la .. hahahaha so many have started with the BCP and have moved on .. its flyable with a programmable radio which cost more than the BCP itself so why not get something that will stay and grow with u ?? as for the coaxial .. it runs on BRUSHED motors .. wears out really quick and then u have to get replacement .. it u know how to DIY then its cheap to just replace both motors from your nearby electronics shop with similar sized/spec ones .. otherwise u will prolly kena PARANG .. hahahaa as for my EP to nitro conversion .. just spoke to an OLD HAND with nitros this morning .. really really need to oversize in order to rempit the size 10-15 EP planes .. maybe not worth it coz bigger planes (not branded ones) are cheap but does not look so nice la ... so KIV while i let my impulsive side rest ... hahahahaa |
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Mar 3 2010, 11:29 AM
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Manage to dismantle my Syma S107 n guess what...the black wire connecting the motor get disconnected..but i had no idea where it is supposed to be..huhu....if anyone got similar model can give me info..i think after weld it back it will work perfectly..the motor is in good condition
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Mar 3 2010, 11:42 AM
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so d best suggestion for beginner is Esky Lama aite??
so whats d different between V3 and V4?? |
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Mar 3 2010, 12:01 PM
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Qiw, any comments? we're discussing about dangerous flyer at BTHO.
http://forum.myrc.biz/index.php?topic=551....8;boardseen#new |
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Mar 3 2010, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(kyoshooo @ Mar 3 2010, 12:01 PM) Qiw, any comments? we're discussing about dangerous flyer at BTHO. i will happily reply here since i am not a member of that forum ... u can cut and paste my reply and put link osohttp://forum.myrc.biz/index.php?topic=551....8;boardseen#new i fly in the similar manner as the other flyers at BTHO .. i do not wanna engage in politics of RC or the RC community mfx (i dunno why he wanna call himself MASTER .. egoistic thing maybe ??) previously has flown his zagi nearby f8 and circuits nearby (against the flow of traffic) .. and he oso sometimes hover walks his little heli to close to where ppl sit and gather after he finish his flying session further out .. not dangerous ?? being longer and better known in the community is NOT A PRIVILEGE to say whatever u like about others do u see me condemning someone coz after 4-5 yrs of flying heli but skill level still not good as should be ?? do u see me condemning another flyer at where i fly just coz he does not talk to me ?? MFX loves to kondem and make remarks about a particular flyer that can do more with a heli than him IMO .. but behind that flyers back la of coz my skill level have progressed rapidly and beyond most expectations so some ppl might tend to get jealous .. i got to know most of the ppl who fly regularly there .. but then of coz MFX knows them longer and can manage POLITICS behind another person's back well .. IF i fly dangerously .. why not tell me straight there and then so i can rectify the situation b4 things gets worse ?? why go play politics behind ?? its not that MFX does not know me or anything .. why not he tell me there and then and solve a safety hazard ?? and after so many years in RC he should know better to take corrective actions immediately sure ... there are a couple of thread such as this talking about the UNWANTED accident at saujana .. opportunist will take the effort to make an agenda instead of talking about the thread .. and then gang thingy appears for support YES .. i am NEW and considered a BEGINNER in the RC WORLD .. that does not mean i do not have my rights in the RC WORLD enuff said .. no matter what .. i will still fly as along as i wish it i dont feel i have a need to say anything to defend myself coz i dont wanna get involved in RC POLITICS .. if i have bad or dangerous flying style .. just tell me and i WILL RECTIFY the manner of which i fly there and then .. others who are not are the site and not seen my flying but based their voice on hearsay and gang support >> what to say ?? BTHO fly site is coming to an end anyway coz construction works are coming up at where the fly site is .. have to look for new site soon This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 3 2010, 02:39 PM |
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Mar 3 2010, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Mar 3 2010, 11:01 AM) Got your ESKY? Not yet. I want to get back my Syma S032 first. |
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Mar 3 2010, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 3 2010, 02:31 PM) i will happily reply here since i am not a member of that forum ... u can cut and paste my reply and put link oso Thats the spirit ! Let's adjust and be safe so everyone of us can enjoy!i fly in the similar manner as the other flyers at BTHO .. i do not wanna engage in politics of RC or the RC community mfx (i dunno why he wanna call himself MASTER .. egoistic thing maybe ??) previously has flown his zagi nearby f8 and circuits nearby (against the flow of traffic) .. and he oso sometimes hover walks his little heli to close to where ppl sit and gather after he finish his flying session further out .. not dangerous ?? being longer and better known in the community is NOT A PRIVILEGE to say whatever u like about others do u see me condemning someone coz after 4-5 yrs of flying heli but skill level still not good as should be ?? do u see me condemning another flyer at where i fly just coz he does not talk to me ?? MFX loves to kondem and make remarks about a particular flyer that can do more with a heli than him IMO .. but behind that flyers back la of coz my skill level have progressed rapidly and beyond most expectations so some ppl might tend to get jealous .. i got to know most of the ppl who fly regularly there .. but then of coz MFX knows them longer and can manage POLITICS behind another person's back well .. IF i fly dangerously .. why not tell me straight there and then so i can rectify the situation b4 things gets worse ?? why go play politics behind ?? its not that MFX does not know me or anything .. why not he tell me there and then and solve a safety hazard ?? and after so many years in RC he should know better to take corrective actions immediately sure ... there are a couple of thread such as this talking about the UNWANTED accident at saujana .. opportunist will take the effort to make an agenda instead of talking about the thread .. and then gang thingy appears for support YES .. i am NEW and considered a BEGINNER in the RC WORLD .. that does not mean i do not have my rights in the RC WORLD enuff said .. no matter what .. i will still fly as along as i wish it i dont feel i have a need to say anything to defend myself coz i dont wanna get involved in RC POLITICS .. if i have bad or dangerous flying style .. just tell me and i WILL RECTIFY the manner of which i fly there and then .. others who are not are the site and not seen my flying but based their voice on hearsay and gang support >> what to say ?? BTHO fly site is coming to an end anyway coz construction works are coming up at where the fly site is .. have to look for new site soon |
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Mar 3 2010, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 3 2010, 02:36 PM) Not yet. I want to get back my Syma S032 first. The person haven't done repairing? |
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Mar 3 2010, 05:14 PM
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I've went to collect my helicopter. One motor replaced, rotors replaced, the shaft also replaced. The helicopter is back to new.
The boss was kind enough to repair and replace the damaged parts without any charge. |
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Mar 3 2010, 05:58 PM
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Wow, so good? Not even a single cent to charge?
Where's the shop? |
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Mar 3 2010, 06:27 PM
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No charge at all. At BB plaza.
I asked if they have Esky, the only thing I see on display is Esky Belt CP. No Lama v4, sadly. |
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Mar 3 2010, 08:09 PM
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Am wondering are those ready to fly heli in Toysrus any good? There's this metal one the body looks nice but don't know how well it flies.
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Mar 3 2010, 08:51 PM
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If you just wanna have fun... any heli will do...
But if you are serious into this hobby... try to get something which could assist you in skills developments.... |
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Mar 3 2010, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(kyoshooo @ Mar 3 2010, 03:29 PM) Thats the spirit ! Let's adjust and be safe so everyone of us can enjoy! i clik onto that forum again ..looks like MASTER wanna play more politics .. and i am sure mr devious is fully aware that open forum threats are not good .. and he is not the only one who can make threats and i will still be flying in BTHO for as long as that place has the space to fly ... no point i wanna waste time and resource to avoid unsavory ppl yups .. do piro flip like sheet was my comment .. but at least i was honest and upfront but cheering for someone to crash .. now how many ppl do u know do that ?? i know ONE most likely there will be no more comments from me on this matter ... i just wanna fly and not play politics .. MASTER can do that himself if he want and please la .. making threats in open forums ?? even if i fall into longkang oso i can get the threat maker into trouble with the law ... hint hint i can oso do tic tocs .. but ugly ones la .. hahahahaa edit .. i read further in that forum .. MASTER did not deny that he hover walk his heli back to the place where "most ppl" sits but nowhere near me of coz .. is a fixed pitch heli with low headspeed .. is that relevant ?? a heli is a heli .. so no need to be safe la ?? MASTER has FULL CONTROL la of coz .. MASTER CAN whereas OTHERS CANNOT ... i can oso say i fly only a SMALL LIGHT FOAM PLANE This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 3 2010, 09:39 PM |
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Mar 3 2010, 09:27 PM
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I read from some forums, they recommend putting sticky tape over the rotor to protect it from damage or shattering in an event of crash. Does it work or would it cause instability?
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Mar 3 2010, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 3 2010, 09:27 PM) I read from some forums, they recommend putting sticky tape over the rotor to protect it from damage or shattering in an event of crash. Does it work or would it cause instability? sticky/masking tape may prevent blades from shattering easily but will add more weight to the blades (more load for motor) and needs balancing (to prevent vibration) |
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Mar 3 2010, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 3 2010, 09:27 PM) I read from some forums, they recommend putting sticky tape over the rotor to protect it from damage or shattering in an event of crash. Does it work or would it cause instability? That will work best with wood blades~ |
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Mar 3 2010, 10:42 PM
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I just tried putting cellotape partially on all blades. Preliminary test seems fine.
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Mar 3 2010, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 3 2010, 10:42 PM) I just tried putting cellotape partially on all blades. Preliminary test seems fine. If you didn't stick much and the speed of rotor head is slow... you won't feel a thing... but try to maintain balance on both blades as QiW has indicate the potential problems~ Added on March 3, 2010, 10:56 pmI think my FP parts have to come from oversea too... LHS doesn't offer much choice~ The Airy blades seems great for beginner like me~ If anyone see any local online R/C shop selling wide variety of Xeon FP/ESKY Honey Bee parts, please let me know~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 3 2010, 10:59 PM |
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Mar 4 2010, 12:43 AM
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most of the head parts are compatible with HBFP .. main gears too
belt u have to get .. tail boom u can cut off trex450 to fit .. blades u prolly have to order or get a king2 blade and VERY CAREFULLY AND PRECISELY cut them yourself .. the frame is very strong .. near no chance to break unless u have a very very major crash u crashed the FP already meh ?? its slow but not that hard to fly .. if u are used to the reaction of a CP .. the FP seriously feels SLOW laa .. hahaha |
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Mar 4 2010, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 4 2010, 12:43 AM) most of the head parts are compatible with HBFP .. main gears too Ok... i think the plastic blades suit me...belt u have to get .. tail boom u can cut off trex450 to fit .. blades u prolly have to order or get a king2 blade and VERY CAREFULLY AND PRECISELY cut them yourself .. the frame is very strong .. near no chance to break unless u have a very very major crash u crashed the FP already meh ?? its slow but not that hard to fly .. if u are used to the reaction of a CP .. the FP seriously feels SLOW laa .. hahaha I have not crash the FP... but soon will take it out to test fly.... so possible of crashing... Frankly speaking, it's much more slower than the CP... so i have to adjust the Expo to make it respond faster.... hehehe.... maybe used to how CP respond... |
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Mar 4 2010, 10:14 AM
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oooppss ... sorry about the king2 blades part .. forgot the king2 has symmetrical blades and not suitable for FP which requires pitched blades .. hahahaaha
yaa .. i oso used expo to try and make it respond faster the motor is powerful enuff for power bailouts if required chances are u will not crash it but will have a hard time getting used to it only since u are so used to CP .. |
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Mar 4 2010, 11:32 AM
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True, i do have some hard time trying used to the slower respond...
The megastation website is terrible la... everytime upgrade/ change layout.... and now i'm going to buy something from it... and the transaction is still going nowhere after 2 hours.... |
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Mar 4 2010, 11:45 AM
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i will tell the boss that the next time i see him .. hahahaha
he oso no idea what the fella who did the site for him doing la .. i go in there oso damm hard to find things .. not just u .. hahahahaa |
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Mar 4 2010, 01:31 PM
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Hahaha... ask the boss to change contractor then... RCSmart is doing a good job.... Don't have to be all java script... normal html will do as long as easy to maintain and locate the products...
All the stuffs needed to Speck my 4g6 is in the way to m'sia... total cost about RM300 inclusive of postage... AR6300 @ USD49.99 (free postage) |
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Mar 4 2010, 02:00 PM
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woooo ... good
let us know how the SPEK 4G6 turns out .. and if u have a weighing scale at home .. see whats the AUW .. u might need a new more powerful motor to compensate for the added AUW Added on March 4, 2010, 4:08 pmu planning to run it on 1S or 2S ?? if 1S i am curious which gyro u select .. unless u using step up laa This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 4 2010, 04:08 PM |
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Mar 4 2010, 09:35 PM
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I'm now trying to reduce weight on my helicopter. I removed weights from balancing bar. Less stable but battery lasts noticeably longer. Just experimenting. Lol..
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Mar 4 2010, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 4 2010, 02:00 PM) woooo ... good I'm using 1s and step up~ and thinking of using the gyro from RX2609.. let us know how the SPEK 4G6 turns out .. and if u have a weighing scale at home .. see whats the AUW .. u might need a new more powerful motor to compensate for the added AUW Added on March 4, 2010, 4:08 pmu planning to run it on 1S or 2S ?? if 1S i am curious which gyro u select .. unless u using step up laa If not will strip the KDS800 that i have.Too bad i don't have the scale... will try to get a scale too... Without step up will be quite risky... will see how when all the parts arrive.... i ordered 10 M/F micro JST with a 30" servo extension~ If next time any one of you need to Spek 4G6 or 4#6, i got some connectors to spare with~ I'm also going to mod the skid since the ori skid is too narrow.. Added on March 4, 2010, 9:50 pm QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 4 2010, 09:35 PM) I'm now trying to reduce weight on my helicopter. I removed weights from balancing bar. Less stable but battery lasts noticeably longer. Just experimenting. Lol.. Great... seems like you are getting into this hobby... some situation we'll increase the weight to get the heli less sensitive.... but it's all about trying~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 4 2010, 09:50 PM |
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Mar 4 2010, 10:06 PM
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I am deeply into this hobby. I'm flying everyday and I bring my heli to college to fly around. I also fly my friend's small RC aeroplane.
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Mar 4 2010, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 4 2010, 10:06 PM) I am deeply into this hobby. I'm flying everyday and I bring my heli to college to fly around. I also fly my friend's small RC aeroplane. What plane is that? |
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Mar 4 2010, 10:16 PM
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Lol. A small EP plane. Very simple and small. No brand or model named. I guess we'll just assume it as toy.
I even tried flying the heli without the fuselage. Very light, take off easily, motor sound also quieter. But very hard to control. The back is now heavier than the front. |
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Mar 4 2010, 10:24 PM
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Can show some pic of the plane?
I think you should get a better heli since you are so into this hobby~ There's some better heli out there will cost about RM500++ RTF... Maybe you can source around... Maybe you can look for FP too.. |
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Mar 4 2010, 10:26 PM
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Still a student. No capital to start with RM500++ heli.
I don't have pic of the plane. |
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Mar 4 2010, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 4 2010, 10:26 PM) Still a student. No capital to start with RM500++ heli. If you don't mind... next time you take and can show? I don't have pic of the plane. |
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Mar 4 2010, 11:08 PM
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Ya. Next time I'll try to get a pic.
I have stripped down those little tail 'decoration', which I don't think is useful. The helicopter doesn't fall back too much but is extremely light and fast. Very fun to speed around (and risking bumping into something). But my mom said I made the helicopter ugly by stripping it down. |
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Mar 5 2010, 09:12 AM
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abit ugly nvm laa .. as long as it flies well
most helis that do 3D looks nothing likea REAL HELI .. hahahaha real looking ones are called scales maa ... those one cost much more coz of the bodykit + your basic heli if u put it that way then the 2 helis that i still have with me ugly lorr .. only a canopy and a tail boom .. hahahahaa Added on March 5, 2010, 9:15 am QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Mar 4 2010, 09:48 PM) I'm using 1s and step up~ and thinking of using the gyro from RX2609.. 2609 rx everything built-in one worr ... u have to know exactly what u are doing to separate the gyro part If not will strip the KDS800 that i have.Too bad i don't have the scale... will try to get a scale too... Without step up will be quite risky... will see how when all the parts arrive.... i ordered 10 M/F micro JST with a 30" servo extension~ If next time any one of you need to Spek 4G6 or 4#6, i got some connectors to spare with~ I'm also going to mod the skid since the ori skid is too narrow.. Added on March 4, 2010, 9:50 pm Great... seems like you are getting into this hobby... some situation we'll increase the weight to get the heli less sensitive.... but it's all about trying~ but since u like tinkering around .. can try try la .. worse case bye by rx2609 and all separates lorr since u already have all the components .. hehehe but i doubt the kds will be much better than the 2609 gyro laa ... the 2609 gyro supposedly quite good liau This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 5 2010, 09:15 AM |
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Mar 5 2010, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 5 2010, 09:12 AM) Added on March 5, 2010, 9:15 am 2609 rx everything built-in one worr ... u have to know exactly what u are doing to separate the gyro part but since u like tinkering around .. can try try la .. worse case bye by rx2609 and all separates lorr since u already have all the components .. hehehe but i doubt the kds will be much better than the 2609 gyro laa ... the 2609 gyro supposedly quite good liau |
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Mar 5 2010, 10:44 AM
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hahaha .. no harm trying lor since u already have standby stuff
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Mar 5 2010, 12:33 PM
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Of course when come to mod~ it's all about trial and error...
We never know which is good till everything is in placed... Added on March 5, 2010, 12:38 pm QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 4 2010, 11:08 PM) Ya. Next time I'll try to get a pic. When you see my heli... you'll know all of them don't look cool... yet... all of them fly really well~I have stripped down those little tail 'decoration', which I don't think is useful. The helicopter doesn't fall back too much but is extremely light and fast. Very fun to speed around (and risking bumping into something). But my mom said I made the helicopter ugly by stripping it down. This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 5 2010, 12:38 PM |
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Mar 5 2010, 01:10 PM
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do u use your dsx7 to sim or the esky radio ??
i think i have to get one of those 4n1 sim things to get used to the 8FG laa ... currently i still sim using the esky radio .. the feel is much more different comparing the esky to dx7 and esky to 8fg laa |
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Mar 5 2010, 02:14 PM
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I use my DSX7 for the sim... My esky "kong" after drop....
Best is use the tx you use more often... i even set a model memory just for the sim.... |
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Mar 5 2010, 02:19 PM
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err ... which sim u using ??
and is it the $$$ version or the FOC version ?? hehehehe |
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Mar 5 2010, 02:44 PM
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I'm using Reflex XTR.... not FOC nor $$$... need doogle to work with...
It is similiar to Pheonix~ |
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Mar 5 2010, 02:53 PM
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aaahh ... that version
i tried reflex ... preferred RF or phoenix looks like i will have to stick it out with the ESKY radio for a while ... wont be getting any new SIM for now |
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Mar 5 2010, 03:13 PM
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if you look at ebay... i think you can get quite an offer over there...
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Mar 5 2010, 07:08 PM
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ebay ah ??
errr .. me no confidence la altho cheap .. hehehe nvm .. will try and get some stuff locally to run the 8FG on the PC ... my midstick deos not feel like midstick during manuevers altho pitch gauge says so la .. hahahahaa .. the FEEL is diferent from what i am used to doing inverts oso abit scare coz cannot get the FEEL yet |
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Mar 5 2010, 08:09 PM
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Ya.. best is use what you normally used to fly for the sim...
If for beginner like me who just hover.. any tx will do la.... |
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Mar 5 2010, 09:40 PM
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I AM OSO BEGINNER AND NEWBIE ...
still need SIM to learn .. hahahahaa |
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Mar 7 2010, 11:34 AM
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Any one of you deal with FGM Hobby in Cheras before?
Some of the price looks cheaper than others. |
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Mar 7 2010, 02:38 PM
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FGM is cheras ... i been there couple of times
some of the stuff good price while some quite expensive |
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Mar 7 2010, 04:51 PM
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Ya, I just want the good price stuff from them only. Hopefully when I order from them it won't take long to deliver.
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Mar 7 2010, 07:39 PM
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Mymegastation have the best services among all... ordered at 4pm still manage to get it the next day... although their website is kinda mess~
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Mar 7 2010, 08:42 PM
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Yeap, their website is not so user friendly .... and I don't know that what heli they are selling other than Align Trex ..... or just Trex only ......
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Mar 8 2010, 09:23 AM
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they do have the esky lama v3 v4 i saw .. but prob is most of the time their website not updated so u dont actually know if they have what in stock .. hahahaha
most if not all the helis they sell there now are ALIGN TREX Ep to nitro ... and parts ... |
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Mar 8 2010, 10:14 AM
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Hahaha, they don't sell intermediate heli, only from novice then jump to advance ......
Recently thinking of getting BCP V2 while waiting for the 4G6 to be available in the rc store. |
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Mar 8 2010, 10:45 AM
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i am selling off my KING2 .. almost everything upgraded with lots of spare parts ... pics below if anyone interested .. but u will need radio and receiver and batt to fly it laa .. hahahahahaa
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Mar 8 2010, 10:56 AM
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Wow, QiW got a lot of helis ar....
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Mar 8 2010, 11:41 AM
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no laa .. now planning to keep my PRO only
all else wanna let off .. cannot concentrate on so many and now enuff time to fly so many oso plus now PLANE FEVER .. hahahahaa |
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Mar 8 2010, 05:09 PM
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Wah, the helicopter looks yummy and expensive.
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Mar 8 2010, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 8 2010, 05:09 PM) Wah, the helicopter looks yummy and expensive. feel free to offer me a price if u are interestedlife is full of surprises sometimes .. hehehe |
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Mar 8 2010, 05:52 PM
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Qiw, you were not buying RTF for your king 2? How come your Tx/Rx, batt not included one?
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Mar 8 2010, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 8 2010, 05:52 PM) Qiw, you were not buying RTF for your king 2? How come your Tx/Rx, batt not included one? Sometimes can buy kit 1~~ or get a RTF and change to your own better Rx, TX... Last time i also bought a Belt CP kit (or so called "crash kit") for RM170.. |
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Mar 8 2010, 06:38 PM
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hmmmmm, let's say RM1xx offer (I just guess) then if I buy Tx/Rx + batt, almost a new RTF already ...... but there's advantage from Qiw where you get some spare parts from him ......
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Mar 8 2010, 08:41 PM
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Lol, I have no idea how much to offer. I also don't know where to buy the Rx/Tx.
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Mar 8 2010, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 8 2010, 08:41 PM) Lol, I have no idea how much to offer. I also don't know where to buy the Rx/Tx. About the Rx/TX... LHS got offer wide range of variety~ |
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Mar 8 2010, 10:23 PM
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Where is LHS?
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Mar 9 2010, 04:19 AM
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ok ... let me set some things straight
i got this heli as an exchange with another of my heli if u checked the stuff on this heli (all the upgrades and parts) without even considering the price of the radio and receiver .. the value is worth well over 1k .. brand new la of coz ... but i am only looking for a fraction of that value for this king2 basic kits comes without electronics .. u will have to buy servos gyro motor ESC .. that one alone will set u back around rm200 easily am only asking for rm400 for the whole set up in those pics .. will demo fly for u if u wanna buy .. just some normal FF laa .. no 3D coz i BEGINNER only .. hahahahaha Added on March 9, 2010, 4:20 amLHS = local hobby shop OHS = online hobby shop This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 9 2010, 04:20 AM |
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Mar 10 2010, 09:32 AM
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No body interested in QiW king?
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Mar 10 2010, 10:56 AM
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its ok one .. slow slow sell
this place actually not for selling stuff .. should post in classifieds but luckily moderator never **** me .. hehehehe main reason i selling coz got emotional detachment with this heli already due to recent events .. so cheap cheap oso will prolly sell off .. hahahaha |
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Mar 10 2010, 12:48 PM
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Hehehe, for me I am not interested to buy because still new to this hobby and lazy to get Tx/Rx and batt separately.
Plan to get a RTF set and have my hands on it first. I am so frustrated and miserable for just able to watch youtube everyday to see people playing their heli. Imagine if you have a naked girl in front of you but you are not allowed to have contact with any parts, it would be suffer unless something wrong with the guy ..... |
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Mar 10 2010, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 10 2010, 12:48 PM) Hehehe, for me I am not interested to buy because still new to this hobby and lazy to get Tx/Rx and batt separately. Wow... what an example you give~~ Plan to get a RTF set and have my hands on it first. I am so frustrated and miserable for just able to watch youtube everyday to see people playing their heli. Imagine if you have a naked girl in front of you but you are not allowed to have contact with any parts, it would be suffer unless something wrong with the guy ..... |
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Mar 10 2010, 02:31 PM
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hmmm ... naked girl in front but ......
just offer a price to the girl la .. hahahahahaa anyways ... just a piece of advice ... stock radios are not ez to fly but not impossible .. a good radio will allow u to adjust flying to suit your style i am saying this not becoz i wanna sell my stuff ok ... hahahahaa just an opinion .. and if u looking at belt CP RTF kit ... yes ... value for $$$ u can ask cliffang coz he has a belt CP .. hehehehe |
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Mar 10 2010, 02:31 PM
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wahahahahah, that's the closest match I can think only ......
Added on March 10, 2010, 2:37 pm QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 10 2010, 02:31 PM) hmmm ... naked girl in front but ...... Thanks for your advice, greatly appreciated. I guess I will get some training kit to play first.just offer a price to the girl la .. hahahahahaa anyways ... just a piece of advice ... stock radios are not ez to fly but not impossible .. a good radio will allow u to adjust flying to suit your style i am saying this not becoz i wanna sell my stuff ok ... hahahahaa just an opinion .. and if u looking at belt CP RTF kit ... yes ... value for $$$ u can ask cliffang coz he has a belt CP .. hehehehe I think cliffang gave me some opinion with the first version, I guess I am getting the V2. I have the same opinion as you because this 450 size heli is not expensive so eventhough I whack or crash it kow kow, i wont feeling that pain also .... Some of them from the forum recommend this to the beginner as they can learn a lot with this heli .... hopefully lah .... This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 10 2010, 02:37 PM |
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Mar 10 2010, 02:52 PM
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Basically BCP v1 / V2 are almost the same... they just change little bit of outlook, RX/TX + brushless + gyro + swash plate... and claim it as new version....
I think King 3 will fly better than BCP V2... Smaller in size and most components same as BCP... Anyway, don't drop the ESKY tx... they are less functioning, quite expensive (compare to RTF), and most important fragile... if you somehow got a chance to hold on a better branded TX (Specktrum/JR/Futaba)... you'll know why i said ESKY TX is fragile~ And i can say Walkera TX feels better than ESKY... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 10 2010, 02:57 PM |
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Mar 10 2010, 04:47 PM
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belt CP suffers coz of the INDIRECT linkages ..
most have to DIY mod direct linkages for it to fly well |
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Mar 10 2010, 05:30 PM
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Not flying well means not stable in hovering?
One thing I like this heli is because the oversea forums have a lot of information about this .... |
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Mar 10 2010, 06:20 PM
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I mod a BCP to direct linkage too... it got improved... yet there's still some glitch due to the plastic swash plate + the oval linkages.... those plastic parts will tend to bended when rotor head is turning...
It's like putting a 17" rim to a kancil and expect it to be controlable on highway... A lot of neg(-) expo needed for the BCP to make it controlable... I can hover my 450 in the house... but i can't hover the BCP in opened area... It is all due to... the rotor head is designed for 300 class heli (King2/3) so with longer main blades = more force will occurs causing the plastic parts to bend... if upgrade the head to CNC... it will cost more than the heli itself... so not worth it... Conslusion... i'll say better to get a King2/3 than BCP.... I'm kinda risk taker... and i spool the BCP up while holding it... and saw the weakness of the main rotor head itself... the tail sucks too... can see the plastic bending all the way too... My opinion: i think there's some story behind that makes the RTF BCP v2 have to sell at RM400++ Sorry ar... when come to BCP i got so many negative point of view.... Anyway... if you are going into BCP v2... do let us know how it fly ya... PS: BCP plastic main frame is better than CF main frame... Emmm... i'm thinking of changing the Xeon FP to Xeon CP (BCP head)~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 10 2010, 06:22 PM |
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Mar 10 2010, 08:31 PM
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Honestly, I have expected the weaknesses. With the same 450 size, Align is selling around RM1.4k with only the helicopter but BCP V2 is around RM600 with RTF.
For sure there will be some trade off with the difference in price. These companies are not selling heli for charity mah, they also need to make $$$ Nvm, I like to hear your opinion, don't feel sorry about this ..... This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 10 2010, 08:32 PM |
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Mar 10 2010, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 10 2010, 08:31 PM) Honestly, I have expected the weaknesses. With the same 450 size, Align is selling around RM1.4k with only the helicopter but BCP V2 is around RM600 with RTF. That's true... what you pay is what you get... I just think that for the best value... RTF King3 will be better than RTF BCP v2....For sure there will be some trade off with the difference in price. These companies are not selling heli for charity mah, they also need to make $$$ Nvm, I like to hear your opinion, don't feel sorry about this ..... But frankly... BCP have more parts support in M'sia than the HPK3~ So as long as you enjoy it... it fits it's purpose.... Just my 2 cents... King 3 would be a better choice over BCP v2... I got 2 BCP collecting dust right now.... so maybe i can use the head part to mod my XEON... but that would be the next project after 4G6.. This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 10 2010, 09:21 PM |
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Mar 10 2010, 09:37 PM
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xeon main shaft is 3mm .. BCP main shaft is 5mm ??
that one is main problem already .. and u will need the servo mount adapters for 3 servos CCPM if u solve those 2 problems above then u will get XEON CP .. hehehehe |
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Mar 10 2010, 09:37 PM
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Yaloh even the King 3 RTF also hard to find from LHS, not much websites selling this heli ..... found that BCP is more common .......
Hehehe, 4G6 compare to BCP, which one is harder to control leh? |
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Mar 10 2010, 09:41 PM
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BCP should be more stable coz bigger (i duno coz i never fly BCP b4)
4G6 will get away from u very fast and is very sensitive and twitchy compared to BCP ... but if your budget can cover 4G6 then u can oso get my king + radio already .. hahahahaa .. only need to pay abit more to buy batt ... |
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Mar 10 2010, 09:42 PM
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Of course is 4g6. Bigger heli is easier to control.
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Mar 10 2010, 09:53 PM
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speaking of 4G6 .. i still have not gotten mine yet
hmmm .. when the king2 and the ar6110e goes i think got space and $$$ for 4G6 liau .. huahahahahaa |
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Mar 10 2010, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 10 2010, 09:41 PM) BCP should be more stable coz bigger (i duno coz i never fly BCP b4) I want to get 4G6 not because of the heli itself, it is because of the 2801 Tx with the package. Hehehe, your offer quite tempted but in penang hard to find parts lah. So at this moment I want to look for RTF and see how my skill first later.4G6 will get away from u very fast and is very sensitive and twitchy compared to BCP ... but if your budget can cover 4G6 then u can oso get my king + radio already .. hahahahaa .. only need to pay abit more to buy batt ... Added on March 10, 2010, 10:09 pm QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Mar 10 2010, 09:42 PM) Of course is 4g6. Bigger heli is easier to control. 4g6 bigger than BCP?? or you were talking about BCP is easier to control?Added on March 10, 2010, 10:13 pm QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 10 2010, 09:53 PM) speaking of 4G6 .. i still have not gotten mine yet Me too, still no stock. Heheheheh, if later got stock but I lost my interest already I don't know how to cancel the order hmmm .. when the king2 and the ar6110e goes i think got space and $$$ for 4G6 liau .. huahahahahaa This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 10 2010, 10:13 PM |
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Mar 10 2010, 10:37 PM
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u asked which one is HARDER TO CONTROL laaa ..
cliffang replied 4G6 ... which is the correct answer laaa there is someone selling BCP RTF + spare parts for rm320 here .. http://malaysia-rc.com/index.php?topic=13120.0 .. go have a look see .. hehehe |
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Mar 10 2010, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 10 2010, 10:37 PM) u asked which one is HARDER TO CONTROL laaa .. Alamak, sorry sorry .......... I got amnesia recently. Maybe it is due to the torture I am having with "see only but no touch" .... Soli again hah ......cliffang replied 4G6 ... which is the correct answer laaa there is someone selling BCP RTF + spare parts for rm320 here .. http://malaysia-rc.com/index.php?topic=13120.0 .. go have a look see .. hehehe |
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Mar 10 2010, 10:52 PM
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Hahaha~~
Ya... you should look at some other forums... there's many good "used" offer there.... I'll support WK2801 over cheapo ESKY TX.... Added on March 11, 2010, 10:44 amAfter about a week... the parts i ordered for modding the 4G6 is yet to be seen... i missed playing with the 4G6~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 11 2010, 10:44 AM |
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Mar 11 2010, 12:43 PM
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why la u go take everything apart b4 your parts arrive ??
if u never open it up then at least still can fly fly until stuff arrive maa .. hehehe u dont have to take it apart to see see coz u already know what u need |
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Mar 11 2010, 12:53 PM
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My BCP V2 arrived today, too bad the Tx is mode 1 one. Forget to tell them to send me a mode 2 ........ Anyone of you playing mode 2 one can shift to mode 1 later or vice versa?
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Mar 11 2010, 01:12 PM
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I think you have to open up the TX... then change the wire connections...
Try google it.... Added on March 11, 2010, 1:15 pmBtw, what's the model of your TX? This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 11 2010, 01:15 PM |
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Mar 11 2010, 01:58 PM
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ET6I, 2.4GHz one .......
Hmmm, from your suggestion something came across my mind. I can swap the stick maybe ...... then it will be mode 2 already ... of course I have to open up the Tx ..... The one you told me is that doing like this? Because if just change the wire connections then the throttle control will always be in the centre position already ...... Going to google the solution later .... thanks ya .... |
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Mar 11 2010, 02:03 PM
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I think all you need to do is just change the metal level in it... and tip a junction switch....
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Mar 11 2010, 02:28 PM
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sorry .. dunno much about esky tx so cannot help but google is always your fren la .. hehehehe
1st reminder .. before u even attempt to spin up the heli ... go SIM kow kow kow 1st .. otherwise it will be repair and $$$ and time |
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Mar 11 2010, 02:43 PM
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Qiw, any idea what sim can work with this ESky Tx?
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Mar 11 2010, 02:56 PM
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Oh ya.... google first too before you go to sim...
You must off the CCPM setting of the TX inable to sim~ Any sim will works with the tx.... |
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Mar 11 2010, 03:35 PM
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yaa ... almost any SIM will work .. just use the provided USB dongle
as for SIM software .. i am using realflight G4.5 |
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Mar 11 2010, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Mar 11 2010, 02:56 PM) Oh ya.... google first too before you go to sim... I think I have seen that before, that should be a switch in the battery compartment. I am headache to find the sim cable now, the Tx did not come with sim cable.You must off the CCPM setting of the TX inable to sim~ Any sim will works with the tx.... Added on March 11, 2010, 5:19 pm QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 11 2010, 03:35 PM) yaa ... almost any SIM will work .. just use the provided USB dongle Are you talking about the dongle for the sim software?as for SIM software .. i am using realflight G4.5 This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 11 2010, 05:19 PM |
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Mar 11 2010, 06:22 PM
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What sim you intended to use?
Realflight is quite popular, same as Pheonix... all this sim require the USB doogle provided... you can get the "ahem" version cheaper... LHS should have.... But if you want FOC sim... it would be FMS but still need the USB interface... last time i used to play FMS... but the quality is not real enough... but can train la~ These USB cable should be cheaper... |
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Mar 11 2010, 08:07 PM
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Realflight most likely. For the USB dongle, is this the one?
http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...kProductItem=25 |
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Mar 11 2010, 09:45 PM
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That 1 cannot use with realflight. That's for FMS only~ i also got 1... now collecting dust...
If you want to get Realflight, you have to get the dongle for it. There's some "Ahem" version of dongle in the market. Without the dongle, even you install the software, it will not start.. |
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Mar 11 2010, 10:30 PM
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go google DONGLE EMULATOR for realflight
u can use your ESKY usb dongle with the emulator and realflight .. up to G4.5 |
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Mar 11 2010, 10:31 PM
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I had the emulator too... but i still prefer Reflex..
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Mar 12 2010, 12:09 AM
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personal preference lorr .. some like this and some like that .. hahahaha
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Mar 12 2010, 09:35 AM
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I think the emulator that Qiw talking about is a piece of software and the one that Cliffang talking about is a piece of hardware.
I believe the "ahem" version one can work without hardware dongle and you just need a connection in between the PC and Tx, this should be the sim cable and it should the cable I posted the link for ESky one. ... |
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Mar 12 2010, 09:36 AM
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daddoo... how are you doing with your BCP v2? can do inverted hover d?
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Mar 12 2010, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 11 2010, 10:30 PM) go google DONGLE EMULATOR for realflight OK, thanks. ESky USB dongle is a cable to connect to the Tx trainer port and another side to PC USB port, right?u can use your ESKY usb dongle with the emulator and realflight .. up to G4.5 Added on March 12, 2010, 9:42 am QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Mar 12 2010, 09:36 AM) daddoo... how are you doing with your BCP v2? can do inverted hover d? Wow, I am not a god gifted heli pilot lah ..... I don't even dare to lift off from the ground. Now just playing around with the servos only, check to see how the controls work practically (and not reading from webs cos it's slow and boring), this really speed up my learning curve. The next step I will do is to order the training kit or DIY, then some tools like the pitch gauge to learn setting up my BCP V2 first, there is a lot of videos .... Then only I will gear up the training and try lifting up and hover ....... also, do sim a lot at the same time ...... This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 12 2010, 09:42 AM |
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Mar 12 2010, 10:07 AM
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the emulator i am using is a software ...
i just plug in the ESKY cable from TX to USB port on PC no other hardware required .. reading and videos helps u more than u think .. a properly set up heli makes learning and flying much much easier especially for new ppl SIM kow kow 1st ... then only try to spin up the heli .. this will save u alot of $$$ and time the training kit is very cheap ... no need to DIY laa .. hahaha |
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Mar 12 2010, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 12 2010, 10:07 AM) the emulator i am using is a software ... OK, I guess I will follow your advice, will not try to spin up before mastering the control in Sim .... I know it's cheap and it is around RM30 only, but in Penang here don't have too much rc shop and therefore I need to order online most of the time. When you do that you have to make sure they have stock (because I know that their website not so updated one) then place order, transfer $$$ and wait for shipping .... so troublesome. This simple DIY is the easiest for my case i just plug in the ESKY cable from TX to USB port on PC no other hardware required .. reading and videos helps u more than u think .. a properly set up heli makes learning and flying much much easier especially for new ppl SIM kow kow 1st ... then only try to spin up the heli .. this will save u alot of $$$ and time the training kit is very cheap ... no need to DIY laa .. hahaha HEhehehe, should consider to move to KL ......... |
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Mar 12 2010, 12:13 PM
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just order from mymegastation la ... they ship very fast and cheap oso
if u DIY ... can just use bamboo sticks with ping pong balls at the end ... no need to have fancy stuff .. the ping pong balls is to prevent the ends of the stick from sticking into the ground and make your heli flip over on the ground |
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Mar 12 2010, 12:32 PM
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While working on the training kit, I think I have to mod my Tx as well because the Tx come in mode 1 but I expect it to be a mode 2 Tx.
I have a chance to open up the Tx and take a look. Too bad that I cannot swap the rockers to each other side. Have to take out the a spring from left to right (throttle) and switch the wire connection. The function of the spring is to move the rocker back to the central automatically. |
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Mar 12 2010, 12:48 PM
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as long as u get it working ... google up for this mode change .. i have seen it b4
make sure u get it right ... mode 2 >> throttle and rudder on left stick .. elevator and ailerons on right stick .. hehehehe |
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Mar 12 2010, 01:42 PM
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There's a lot of topic out there regarding changing mode of ESKY Tx... but i don't know how your TX looks like from the inside... also cannot pin point to you which methods to follow... good luck ya...
As i known... 2.4g Tx is the easiest to swap... just change the metal spring thing and swap a junction switch... Walkera/JR also do that only... Added on March 12, 2010, 2:14 pmTry this, hope your answer is there... http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~atong/ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 12 2010, 02:14 PM |
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Mar 12 2010, 04:29 PM
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dont worry too much ...
convert your tx .. whack the sim then its FLY FLY FLY time !! huahahaha |
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Mar 12 2010, 07:35 PM
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FLY FLY FLY time??? or my heli FRY FRY FRY time?
Mymegastation got this USB dongle/cable or not? |
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Mar 12 2010, 08:16 PM
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not sure .. u go to their website see see la .. maybe got
most prolly got ... but dunno selling together with tx or cable alone laa .. hahaha |
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Mar 12 2010, 08:33 PM
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their website dun have oh ..... heheheh and a bit messy so a bit hard to search for stuff ....
Nvm lah, I will give them a call and ask ...... Tonight so poor, daughter come back and cant touch my toy, hahahha still a baby and need to take care together with wife .... Added on March 12, 2010, 10:57 pmOhhhh, I think something wrong with the controls. I have successfully mod my Tx to mode 2, then only I found that the control a bit weird where the left hand stick should control the throttle and yaw (spin clockwise or anti clockwise). But actual case the Tx left hand stick controlling throttle and AILERON!!! I guess the heli should have some wrong connection with the receiver ..... now trying to correct the problem This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 12 2010, 10:57 PM |
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Mar 12 2010, 11:07 PM
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u just moved the whole gimbal set from right to left !!!
that is not the way to do it ... i found it the 1st time i googled ... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=842122 read and follow steps .... |
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Mar 12 2010, 11:28 PM
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I am suspecting the wrong connections at the receiver, if I remember correctly it is already like that before I mod the Tx. I am just lucky that I found this after the mod when I read the instruction manual again.
It's true that I just swap the position of the gimbal set but eventhough I swap it back it will still exhibit the samething, right? |
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Mar 12 2010, 11:43 PM
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mode 1 >> throttle and aileron on the right .. elevator and rudder on the left
mode 2 >> aileron and elevator on the right .. throttle and rudder on the left in your case u just interchanged the stick from left to right .. read the link i put up there .. it will guide u in your mode change ** didnt i say reading helps alot ?? hahahahahaa |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:20 AM
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Hehehehe, my orientation is a bit worse .... just did some swapping again and now only i got everything correct with mode 2 ..... it is not the receiver connection problem.
now my left stick is use for throttle and rudder (yaw) and right stick for aileron and elevtor ..... Should tidy up everything and go to bed else later wife will make noise already ... kakakkakaka |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:20 AM
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good .. thats the correct mode 2
now is time to FLY FLY FLY !! huahahaha |
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Mar 13 2010, 01:05 AM
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Haiyo, you ah .... dun encourage me to fly at this moment lah ..... it's already midnight .... Anyway, thanks for the link .....
Playing with your plane? This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 13 2010, 01:05 AM |
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Mar 13 2010, 07:01 AM
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yaa .. my 1st 2 balsa planes got destroyed already
now got another one .. still in box .. SUKHOI-31 .. hehehe but i still fly my heli laaa of coz .. must always fly the heli otherwise out of practice hand will shake one when fly .. hahahaha |
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Mar 13 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 13 2010, 07:01 AM) yaa .. my 1st 2 balsa planes got destroyed already hehehhe, you fried your balsa plane leh ........ How big is your Sukhoi?now got another one .. still in box .. SUKHOI-31 .. hehehe but i still fly my heli laaa of coz .. must always fly the heli otherwise out of practice hand will shake one when fly .. hahahaha Added on March 13, 2010, 8:50 amHere's my second heli together with the newly mod Tx. I am not showing off because this is just a low cost heli ....... The first one is a coaxial and already bye bye .......  This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 13 2010, 08:52 AM |
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Mar 13 2010, 09:34 AM
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Don't worry... you are not the only person flying ESKY heli... i did fly that too...
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Mar 13 2010, 11:18 AM
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Where is your bcp now? sold off already?
Hehe, I should say TQ to you too for giving me the info ..... |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:06 PM
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i oso still have an ESKY with me .. nobody wants the king2 ... yet
my sukhoi-31 small only la .. wingspan 944mm .. hehehe my other long term project has 57inches wingspan ... the other 2 balsa planes died of technical faults ... not due to pilot error 1st one motor powerful but mounting not strong enuff ... front of plane exploded in midair 2nd one crashed due to dsm2 lock out ... |
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Mar 13 2010, 12:54 PM
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What's the difference between rc heli and plane?
Which you would prefer to play more? I guess the cost to play rc plane is cheaper than heli .... |
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Mar 13 2010, 01:31 PM
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My BCP is collecting dust now...
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Mar 13 2010, 03:21 PM
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My BCP needs to be "hospitalized" ....
Casualty report: 1.) Rotor blade gone 2.) flybar bend but now I bend it straight again ... so hopefully can use again 3.) Tail boom bend, gone. 4.) Main gear, big one gone. 5.) horizontal tail blade set broken, but I use glue to stick the plastic back. Hopefully there won't be more when I replace the the parts later ..... |
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Mar 13 2010, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 13 2010, 03:21 PM) My BCP needs to be "hospitalized" .... aaahh ??Casualty report: 1.) Rotor blade gone 2.) flybar bend but now I bend it straight again ... so hopefully can use again 3.) Tail boom bend, gone. 4.) Main gear, big one gone. 5.) horizontal tail blade set broken, but I use glue to stick the plastic back. Hopefully there won't be more when I replace the the parts later ..... hands cannot tahan go spin up the heli la rite ?? dont say we did not tell u so ... hehehehe crashes are NORMAL la in the heli world .. the fun of flying plane and flying heli is different .. heli is more expensive to crash and repair most foam planes are cheap to repair .. balsa planes mostly gone case if u crash or even if repairable will not be the same |
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Mar 13 2010, 05:05 PM
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Yalah, so gatal when I charged up the LiPo .... then thought that just simply spin the blade and lift up a bit loh, then suddenly dun know why (maybe I hit something) the blades broken apart and caused all these damages. You did tell me before lah, but the temptation is irresistable
When a beautiful naked girl sleep beside you, what you think you would do? wahahahhahaHehehe, crash and repair are normal but this round I think I have to pay for around RM100 just for this gatal ..... So I am pretty agree with you that heli is more expensive to C&R. This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 13 2010, 05:08 PM |
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Mar 13 2010, 06:12 PM
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blades do not fly apart by itself ...
ESKY does not come properly flight checked and u better do all the swash leveling as well a pitch checking yourself .. disconnect motor wires when u check pitch oso check all the screws are tight and where locktite is required ... hehehe |
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Mar 13 2010, 07:26 PM
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Check the main shaft too....
After you replace the main gear... take the whole head off leaving the main shaft only... then spin up and see~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 13 2010, 07:27 PM |
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Mar 13 2010, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Mar 13 2010, 07:26 PM) Check the main shaft too.... To check the main shaft got bengkok or not?After you replace the main gear... take the whole head off leaving the main shaft only... then spin up and see~ |
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Mar 13 2010, 08:02 PM
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u have so many other parts bengkok/rosak ...
main shaft is one of the most common thing to bend .. more chances of main shaft bending compared to feathering/rotor/spindle shaft ... hahahhaaa so yours 99.99% sure bengkok already one la |
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Mar 13 2010, 08:15 PM
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If that's the case I think I will take the main shaft out and check.
I have an idea of rolling the shaft on a flat surface, by doing that the you will know it is bend or not, good idea ar??? |
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Mar 13 2010, 09:56 PM
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Like that also can... anyway you needed to take the whole head off too...
So normally for me, i'll just take the whole head off... and spin up.. like that little bit bend also will be visible to eyes~ |
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Mar 13 2010, 10:03 PM
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Yes, you will see some shadowing effect if the shaft is bend. But is that true with a good shaft you won't see the shadowing at all?
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Mar 13 2010, 10:26 PM
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just roll the shaft on your glass table .. can see the wobble much easier
99.99% bent liau your main shaft .. tail boom oso koyak worr .. hehehe that is just your 1st reminder to whack the SIM kow kow and the BCP is not an ez heli to learn due to many inherent shortcomings |
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Mar 13 2010, 10:36 PM
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No sim at this moment mah ... and too itchy until I cant behave ..... hehhehe ... nvm ... usually first time is a bit painful lah .....
Now I learnt to control myself first Added on March 14, 2010, 9:10 amThere's no sign of bend of my main shaft ......... dismantle those part and manage to take the shaft out ..... it looks pretty straight with eye inspection lah. Probably i think it is survive because the blade is the wooden one This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 14 2010, 09:10 AM |
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Mar 14 2010, 09:10 AM
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After you figure everything out.... you can try to mod the belt cp to direct linkage... Try google some info out...
Megastation have the parts required for the mod.. |
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Mar 14 2010, 11:36 AM
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Ohhh, direct linkage to those 3 servo for better cyclic response?
Found a few videos and I can see that their swashplate movement is better with the mod .... heheh, slowly slowly and maybe do this later when I can hover |
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Mar 14 2010, 03:55 PM
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Wow... great that your main shaft survive.... don't care if the blade is wood, CF, FG, Plastic... there will still be bending shaft because of the force...
Just like water... if you travel fast enough, it'll become just like concrete.. |
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Mar 14 2010, 09:03 PM
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Yes, although the main shaft is not very expensive but at least it is save some $$$ for me ..... estimated that this round I need to spend RM60.00 to replace blade (still wooden, don't want CF first), tail boom and main gear. Now worry already because not yet able to lift up 60 bucks gone ....
Tail boom can bend it back to straight but with 2 shallow dents, so i guess just keep it as spare part although it looks usable. |
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Mar 15 2010, 10:40 AM
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Don't worry.. crashing is the key to success..... As long as you learned something from it... Just like paying tuition fee lo...
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Mar 15 2010, 04:09 PM
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Fortunately the BCP spare part is not hard to get locally. But don't know why, some of the parts are out of stock for a month plus, when I called and ask the shop worker they all also don't know when the stock will arrive. Curious to know if it is because of the chinese new year holiday in China .....
But for 4G6 parts I think have to go for OHS already. |
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Mar 15 2010, 04:50 PM
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Then just import yourself then if the price is not much difference...
PS: EMS Shipping from HK is about USD25 (min).... Did you called up Megastation? Last time they got various of BCP parts, but after upgrade the wesite those was taken off... Try, Hobbysportz~ |
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Mar 15 2010, 05:05 PM
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Ohhhhh, megastation has a lot of BCP parts? Then I shall call them up. I did not call them because I cant find anything about the BCP so I thought they don't have that.
Hehe, hobbysportz will be my last choice because if you compare with others ah, you will find out that you should go for other shops first ..... |
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Mar 16 2010, 09:34 AM
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Got your BCP parts and sim cable??
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Mar 16 2010, 12:23 PM
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not yet .... still looking for the parts from various LHS. Called megastation yesterday but no one pick up the call, email also not replied yet at the moment.
found a "ahem" sim+cable package so hopefully that can use with the Tx ...... did you use your sim with Esky Tx before? hehehhe, my progress is a bit slow cos I am old already ....... maybe 2 months later i still cannot hover my BCPV2 This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 16 2010, 12:52 PM |
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Mar 16 2010, 12:59 PM
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Most of the sim cable will come with various adaptor for your TX...
ESKY should be using the connector like P/S2 connector for keyboard.. For me... JR don't have to use any adaptor as it uses the mono audio jack... Maybe you should ask the seller if the package comes with adaptor for various TX or at least ESKY... |
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Mar 16 2010, 04:46 PM
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put in more practice and SIM time .. should be able to hover within 2 weeks or so la .. huahahahaaa
BCP parts hard to get coz most ppl have already moved on from BCP .. and now got v2 sommo .. most shops usually stock ALIGN parts nowadays coz thats the most popular brand for now |
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 13 2010, 08:43 AM) hehehhe, you fried your balsa plane leh ........ How big is your Sukhoi? Added on March 13, 2010, 8:50 amHere's my second heli together with the newly mod Tx. I am not showing off because this is just a low cost heli ....... The first one is a coaxial and already bye bye ....... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « hehe..i got BCP V2 also. it is my 1st Heli. Now sitting diam2 inside the carrying case. no time to fly. btw, what kind of mod did you do to your tx?  |
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 16 2010, 04:46 PM) put in more practice and SIM time .. should be able to hover within 2 weeks or so la .. huahahahaaa Just the BCPV2 already make me going to bankrupt .... Not sure what's the price for Align parts so not dare to touch the branded thing first. Wait until I master this hobby then only consider that loh, I was making the wrong decision because in the beginning I was thinking of getting Trex 250 or 450. Only after i crashed my BCPV2 then I realize the cost of repair not cheap also. But still ok lah, I manage to find most of the BCPV2 parts from LHS and order a lot for this shot. It should be able to repair a few crashes without ordering new parts.BCP parts hard to get coz most ppl have already moved on from BCP .. and now got v2 sommo .. most shops usually stock ALIGN parts nowadays coz thats the most popular brand for now Added on March 16, 2010, 8:39 pm QUOTE(dan137 @ Mar 16 2010, 08:14 PM) hehe..i got BCP V2 also. it is my 1st Heli. Now sitting diam2 inside the carrying case. no time to fly. Hehehe, BCPV2 consider quite affordable for entry level people. Did you crash your BCPV2 before ar? Where do you order/purchase spare parts?btw, what kind of mod did you do to your tx? When my BCPV2 arrived, it comes with mode 1 Tx so I mod the Tx to mode 2 ........ This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 16 2010, 08:39 PM |
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 16 2010, 08:37 PM) Hehehe, BCPV2 consider quite affordable for entry level people. Did you crash your BCPV2 before ar? Where do you order/purchase spare parts? haha..i crashed 3 times already. i sent my heli for repair at GRAFFITI HOBBY R/C CENTER, 6th Floor, BTS. dont have tools to repair and i stil very noob in this hobby. where do you fly?When my BCPV2 arrived, it comes with mode 1 Tx so I mod the Tx to mode 2 ........ |
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1st thing ... a PROPERLY SETUP heli is much much easier to learn and fly
2nd thing .. a stock BCP has alot of inherent weakness (just ask those who owned BCP b4) so it hampers your learning curve quite significantly 3rd thing .. if u think u will be in this hobby for a long run .. then it is wise to invest in a "good" radio which really helps in controlling the heli i am not "ketuking" u guys who says budget budget thing ... if u insist on starting on a BCP then so be it but it will be a very very hard long road .. the end results will prolly be more expensive than starting with a "good" radio and a "better" heli .. hehehe |
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Mar 16 2010, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(dan137 @ Mar 16 2010, 09:29 PM) haha..i crashed 3 times already. i sent my heli for repair at GRAFFITI HOBBY R/C CENTER, 6th Floor, BTS. dont have tools to repair and i stil very noob in this hobby. where do you fly? If you just replace the parts I think you don't need special tools, find some videos on youtube related to this BCPV2 and it will give a lot of information including taking the parts away and some setup tips ....... I have successfully dismantling the parts and now waiting for parts arrival to restore back ... it is easy and simple. I am now learning to setup and tune the heli .....Added on March 16, 2010, 10:44 pm QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 16 2010, 10:00 PM) 1st thing ... a PROPERLY SETUP heli is much much easier to learn and fly hehehe, you are experience so I know you are giving out your heart 2nd thing .. a stock BCP has alot of inherent weakness (just ask those who owned BCP b4) so it hampers your learning curve quite significantly 3rd thing .. if u think u will be in this hobby for a long run .. then it is wise to invest in a "good" radio which really helps in controlling the heli i am not "ketuking" u guys who says budget budget thing ... if u insist on starting on a BCP then so be it but it will be a very very hard long road .. the end results will prolly be more expensive than starting with a "good" radio and a "better" heli .. hehehe hmmm ... as I said, I am now learning to setup the heli based on what is advised by nuttcaze, hopefully this will get my BCPV2 more stable. Just measure the length of my flybar at both side, guess what ...... they are not equally the same length now still don't know I will in this hobby long run or not lah, still new and probably would give up 2 months later ........ my plan is to wait until I am good to do invert hovering, then only I will consider Align or other better heli/radio This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 16 2010, 10:49 PM |
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Mar 16 2010, 10:59 PM
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inverted hovering ??
err ... thats a very very long way to go .. good luck and happy training then dont forget to whack sim kow kow .. hahahaha |
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Mar 16 2010, 11:02 PM
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Of course lah, you are a bit 'cheong hei' and already said this "whack sim kow kow' many times .....
Errr, can you do inverted hovering now? Can tell ar? Forget to ask. Dan137, how much it cost to repair your BCPV2 each time? This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 16 2010, 11:46 PM |
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Mar 16 2010, 11:42 PM
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can do abit abit laaa .. hahahaha
there is a pic of me doing it in the older thread that was 3 months ago .. now trying to do other stuff but got sidetracked by planes .. hahahahahahaaa |
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Mar 17 2010, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 16 2010, 11:02 PM) Of course lah, you are a bit 'cheong hei' and already said this "whack sim kow kow' many times ..... 1st crash = ~RM170. 2nd crash = ~RM80 something like that. i cant remember the exact amount.Errr, can you do inverted hovering now? Can tell ar? Forget to ask. Dan137, how much it cost to repair your BCPV2 each time? |
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Mar 17 2010, 08:18 PM
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wow, almost the price of a half BCPV2 already ...... hehehe do you scare to fly your heli now? Or $$$ is not an issue to you ..
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Mar 17 2010, 10:35 PM
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my total crash costs on my 450PRO >> less than rm200 so far
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Mar 18 2010, 09:43 AM
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How did you fly your 450Pro? Got hardcore 3D or not?
heheheh, I have not lifted up the heli already lost RM60. This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 18 2010, 09:44 AM |
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Mar 18 2010, 12:45 PM
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i BEGINNER only .. how to hardcore 3D la ??
hover hover around only la me .. hehehehe |
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Mar 18 2010, 12:52 PM
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actually when you setting up your 450Pro, do you need to purchase screws and nuts yourself? Or included in the package?
hehehehe, did you do all the setup like swash levelling, blade tracking yourself ar? |
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Mar 18 2010, 02:13 PM
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everything done to my planes and helis i did it myself ... including some mods to make things work properly or better
swash leveling blade tracking are all basic stuff u must know to fly a heli screws are normally included in the kit that u buy (NEW KIT la) .. Added on March 18, 2010, 2:17 pmps ... buy tools alone oso cost me at least rm300 already u will need good tools to work with or else u will waste time This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 18 2010, 02:17 PM |
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Mar 18 2010, 04:45 PM
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Yeah, tools are expensive~~~
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Mar 18 2010, 05:50 PM
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did you guys buy the tools like pitch gauge or swash leveler or blade balancer?
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Mar 18 2010, 09:11 PM
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Yes, i have all those... I only used swash plate leveler when i don't know how to hover...
After i mastered hover... i use visual to level it... then fine tune using hover... pitch gauge is an must for cp~ This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 18 2010, 09:23 PM |
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Mar 18 2010, 09:36 PM
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Is that really important to do blade balancing?
Hehehe, I just ordered a cheapo pitch gauge which is around RM40 i think. I did not order swashplate leveler because I found that it can be done using a zip tie, should be better than visual inspection I think .... |
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Mar 18 2010, 09:38 PM
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hex + philips screwdrivers .. pitch gauge .. ball link pliers .. locktite .. mini sharp nose pliers .. etc etc ... lots of essential tools
Added on March 18, 2010, 9:41 pmswash leveler not essential but good for new ppl for reference just in case pitch gauge u can get align ones (very very good) for rm50 .. cheapo ones costs around rm10-20 but still does the job laa balancing is to minimise vibrations .. when u have lots of vibrations your gyro go crazy .. then u are in trouble as the tail will not hold properly or even hold at all depending on your gyro setup This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 18 2010, 09:41 PM |
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Mar 18 2010, 10:08 PM
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Swashplate levelling is just to make sure that 3 points (for 120 degree one) of the swashplate are always level when you just move the throttle stick, right?
Hmmmm, it looks like blade balancing quite important as well ....... Locktite can use on plastic parts or not?? This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 18 2010, 10:09 PM |
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Mar 19 2010, 03:25 AM
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most locktites are for metal to metal .. altho i have heard there are some for plastics but never seen here b4 laa
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Mar 19 2010, 09:11 AM
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If that's the case, then locktite is not suitable to me at the moment, because most of the BCPV2 parts are plastic.
I remember the manual mention something like "screw glue" but not sure where to get this ........ |
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Mar 19 2010, 09:36 AM
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for plastics ... most just use CA @ super glue
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Mar 19 2010, 11:02 AM
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I think you can get full set of "OK quality" tools.. for about RM180/set...
Consist of, pitch gauge, ball link pliers, sharp nose plier, wire cutter, few allen key screw drivers, philips screw driver, and screw driver. Added on March 19, 2010, 2:09 pmWoohoo~~ Finally the micro jst i ordered is here... This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 19 2010, 02:09 PM |
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Mar 19 2010, 04:01 PM
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Just got my cheapo pitch gauge, it's made by plastic but still selling at around RM40, with RM10 more can get Align pitch gauge already ...... dammmmmm .....
hehehehe, I also got my spare parts today, can repair the heli and start simulation already cos cable also coming together with the order .... hopefully the cable can use lah ....... |
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Mar 19 2010, 05:39 PM
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if all is in proper order ... then u can start working on your heli
working on your heli helps u know your heli better and oso lets u know what to adjust/mod to make it suit your preference |
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Mar 19 2010, 08:38 PM
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Now whacking the sim, dammmmmmm ... crashing everywhere ...... I should have tried this before touching the real heli ....
After an hour of whacking the sim, I started to repair my BCPV2. The first thing was to replace the tail boom and main gear, then tested the main shaft, looks good so tire .... have to stop ... still a lot of works to be completed .... Those who own a BCPV2, it is recommended to know "nuttcaze" ....... This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 20 2010, 01:26 AM |
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Mar 20 2010, 08:29 AM
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dont say i did not tell u to whack sim kow kow .. hahahahahaa
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Mar 20 2010, 09:39 AM
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You did tell me lah, heheheh somemore I said you are a bit "cheong hei"
But the heli in the sim is quite hard to tame ..... i feel boring with the sim already .... or maybe it is FOC for every crash so I don't appreciate it ...... |
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Mar 20 2010, 10:07 AM
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The heli in the sim is acctually easier to tame than the real 1....
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Mar 20 2010, 01:57 PM
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ever wondered why nobody bothered to make a BCP for the SIM ??
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Mar 20 2010, 02:03 PM
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You guys have such nice heli and got simulator some more. Haha..
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Mar 20 2010, 06:17 PM
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Aiya, my ESky Tx can work on Reflex but cant be detected in RealFlight 4.5, any idea ar? Is that because of vista?
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Mar 20 2010, 07:35 PM
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no .. u need the emulator
and oso go to control panel .. set the esky PPM joystick as your preferred device .. if it is not the preferred device then normally will not detect if u have another joystick plugged in besides the esky btw ... VISTA SUCKS !! hahahahahaa go install win7 |
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Mar 20 2010, 07:56 PM
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Errrmmm, that one "ahem" already. My Tx should be the CCPM type one. Anyway, when I plug in that I should see something in "Game Controller" but I see none. My sim cable not the Esky one, my cable has a female audio jack connector and combine with another cable with male audio jack connector then go to PC's USB port
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Mar 20 2010, 08:16 PM
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aahh ... that one
no need emulator already then u just need to try the switches on your USB thingy dongle .. there should be a switch for position 1 2 3 4 or something like that if yours does not have it then the dongle is specially for REFLEX cannot use for RF liau i prefer RF |
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Mar 20 2010, 08:35 PM
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Huh, like that ah ...... no wonder. There is no switch at all ....... but reflex sim ok ar?
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Mar 20 2010, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 20 2010, 02:03 PM) You guys have such nice heli and got simulator some more. Haha.. How's your heli??Added on March 20, 2010, 8:53 pm QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 20 2010, 08:35 PM) Huh, like that ah ...... no wonder. There is no switch at all ....... but reflex sim ok ar? I'm using reflex too... it is also a quite popular sim~ go to www.rc-sim.de and you can download more model...This post has been edited by cliffang83: Mar 20 2010, 08:53 PM |
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Mar 20 2010, 09:55 PM
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Nice link ... TQ
The model in the original one is too little .... |
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Mar 20 2010, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Mar 20 2010, 08:52 PM) How's your heli?? Quite demoralising. When I bring it out to fly, my friends all want to try try. I didn't crash my heli but they crashed for me.The aluminium body went off-shape and I had to use hammer to whack it back. The shaft seems to be bent a bit but I can't fix it. Some rotor chipping. |
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Mar 20 2010, 11:06 PM
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that's for sure because rc heli is quite a tempted hobby ....
most people thought that it is fun until they crashed their own heli ... whahahahahah |
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Mar 21 2010, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 20 2010, 11:06 PM) that's for sure because rc heli is quite a tempted hobby .... Who are you referring to? Hehe...most people thought that it is fun until they crashed their own heli ... whahahahahah |
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Mar 21 2010, 10:47 AM
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Ehhhhhh, mengsuan's friends ....
But this is the nature of human so you can't avoid and you just can think of a way to escape .... |
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Mar 21 2010, 11:30 AM
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Haha, and I haven't got the money to buy a better heli either.
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Mar 21 2010, 03:55 PM
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based on your signature ... DSLR hobby not cheap either but u found a way to fund it .. hehehehe
just priorities are different for different ppl lorr |
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Mar 21 2010, 08:46 PM
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yippie, I manage to keep T-Rex 450 (sim one lah
) in the air now without crashing, but still once in a while it will go from left to right, then right to left again ... flying around .... don't know if this could help to lift my real heli up or not ......Did some swashplate levelling this noon and found BCPV2 swashplate will level only when neutral hov.pit and throttle stick at lowest, or most negative hov.pit and middle throttle stick. The rest the swashplate will lean forward or backward. |
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Mar 21 2010, 09:00 PM
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the swashplate is supposed to be level wherever the throttle position (up high or down low) .. it is only supposed to be moving (left right front or back) when u have cyclic input (aileron and/or elevator)
in this case .. if it is level at certain position but not level at some position means the cyclic servos are not moving in unison how long are u keeping the trex450 in the air without crashing in the SIM ?? if u can keep it in CONTROL for more than 1min means u SHOULD be able to hover a real heli already laa .. hehehehe |
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Mar 21 2010, 09:14 PM
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BCP have such problem of swash lean to one side when pitch increase....
Mine last time lean to front, which i have to set the Ele servo to 'program mix"... but daddoo... sadly esky TX can't do that... You can try the "Hover" training in the sim..... |
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Mar 21 2010, 09:16 PM
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But weird lah, din change anything and don't know why like this. Is there a way to correct this servo problem ar?
I can keep it in the air as long as I can now. Hopefully I can hover my real one ..... and MAYBE I can Added on March 21, 2010, 9:19 pm QUOTE(cliffang83 @ Mar 21 2010, 09:14 PM) BCP have such problem of swash lean to one side when pitch increase.... Hmmm, it is only leaning forward and backward for my case when I move the throttle stick up and down. Mine last time lean to front, which i have to set the Ele servo to 'program mix"... but daddoo... sadly esky TX can't do that... You can try the "Hover" training in the sim..... If I can only use my Esky Tx, would it be dangerous to hover my BCPV2 with this problem? I have tried the Hover Training and no problem to control now .... can hover as long as I can ...... Just remember something from the manual, there are some graphs there For Normal mode, when 0% throttle -> 0 degree pitch curve. 100% throttle -> 7 degree pitch curve. For Idle up, when 0% throttle -> -7 degree pitch curve. 50% then 0 degree and 100% then 7 degree. This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 21 2010, 09:25 PM |
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Mar 21 2010, 09:35 PM
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then time to fix and set up the heli and try to get it in the air again maybe ?? hehehehe
the manual is not wrong .. in idle up zero degrees at 50% or midstick but most would recommend abit of negative (maybe 2-3 degrees) in normal mode for minimum stick so u can control it better in the wind ... but all is up to personal preference lorr |
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Mar 21 2010, 09:55 PM
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don't know yet whether it can be fixed with all the stock parts ...... maybe whack more sim first and try lifting up the heli next weekend .....
If I remember correctly, the -ve pitch in normal mode can be done also, just rotate the hov.pit pot and I can go to -ve pitch when moving throttle stick. It looks like BCP is something different already where yours heli will just move the swashplate up and down (levelled at the time) when you move throttle up and down ...... |
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Mar 21 2010, 10:18 PM
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But.... if you are able to control it... wouldn't be hard then...
When the time the heli going to lift off... it would go which ever directions that the wind blow... so already have to input directions... So now you know that the swash will lean Foward/ backward... at least when the moment it lift off... input some stick action to counter it~ Won't be needing too much -ve pitch yet as you are flying or hover normally... maybe 0% @ -1, 50% @ +5, 100% @ >+7 You required many -ve pitch when you are going to do inverted hover or 3D~ |
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Mar 21 2010, 11:14 PM
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I think the stock Tx would not allow you to set the pitch. As what I can read from the manual, it is already pre-programmed with 0% @ 0, 100% @ +7 for normal mode.
Another fallback for getting the cheapo heli Ohhhhh, came across my mind suddenly. I cannot do something on the stock Tx but I can adjust the linkage ....... This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 22 2010, 09:08 AM |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:29 AM
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The problems comes from the design itself... as mechanical servo travel is not equal at 3 of the points...
Yes, you can adjust the linkage for pitch... but the problems of swash leanning forward/back during pitch travel will still occurs as the TX set all the 3 servo to travel at same. |
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Mar 22 2010, 01:04 PM
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nvm ... if and when u learn on hover on the BCP ... and if u decide to get another non esky heli then everything will be much easier
consider this a learning heli lorr .. hehehe |
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Mar 22 2010, 06:43 PM
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Yeap, that is what I always think. This is quite a reasonable entry level CP heli for newbie like me .........
Honestly, I get to know a lot of stuffs from this BCPV2 ....... |
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Mar 22 2010, 08:15 PM
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your next step ... should be a new programmable radio
u can use it to fly the BCP 1st .. then comes alot of other new helis/planes .. hahahahahaaa |
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Hehehehe, actually planned already. If nothing goes wrong, I will go and get the 4G6 with WK-2801 Pro Tx one.
After that will take months to save $$$$ again before next heli lah, now pk already. Aiyaya, now only I know what went wrong with my swashplate lah. I am so idiot that interchange the ail & pitch connection at the receiver. Now switched back and the swashplate is levelled regardless of where the throttle position ..... !@)#*~!@($!@#(%$@)$%( I guess my first crash was due to that as I was moving the throttle stick upward (which it was actually moving the elevator with more motor spin) then suddenly the ball link came out and causes the blade to hit the tail boom. |
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Mar 22 2010, 09:43 PM
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ball link came out by itself ??
new heli worr ... ball links normally go in ONE DIRECTION .. look properly if u put it in the correct direction .. if u plug and unplug a few times in the wrong direction u may have loosened the ball link (one side bigger than other side diameter) i still have not gotten used to flying heli with the 8FG yet laa .. heli flying now jerky and not smooth control and not confident oso .. hahaha |
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Mar 22 2010, 10:07 PM
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I guess lah. With the wrong pitch and ail connections, the swashplate is actually lean forward as long as the throttle stick is pushing up, when the headspeed increase to a certain level, maybe this ball link plug being pushed out by the swashplate rotation force ...... maybe ..... else I can't explain why it crashes last time because I did not see that the blade hit something.
Finally, now the swashplate is levelling better when I move the throttle stick. Gonna whack the sim now and hopefully I can get my baby in the air this weekend. Just done with some training in sim, hehehehh ... now learning to do inverted hovering .... can control quite ok so sifu-sifu, i should be able to hover my real heli better, right? But I really scare to crash the heli although I just want to do a normal hovering This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 22 2010, 10:55 PM |
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Mar 22 2010, 11:28 PM
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being scared is normal .. i oso damm scared and sweating all the time when i 1st hovered my heli .. hahahahaa
once u pass that 1st hover .. the ones coming on will be easier ... until u do side in and nose in hovers .. hehehe i dont think u can call anyone sifoo except THIS FELLA in this forum ... or else he might get angry .. hahahahahaa |
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Mar 23 2010, 09:41 AM
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Even now i'll sweat all the time when i hover my 450 in the house~~
Damn kan cheong, can't make much mistake if not everything gone... |
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Mar 23 2010, 12:33 PM
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u brave laa ... i never even tried hovering 450 inside the house .. i only ever hovered 300 sizes inside .. 450 i do in my porch only .. no skill and guts to control the heli inside the house la me .. hahahahaa
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Mar 23 2010, 12:47 PM
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There is a guy on youtube hover his BCPV2 in living room but the area is very small only.
And my last crash I tried to lift my BCPV2 in sleeping room ...... |
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Mar 23 2010, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 23 2010, 12:47 PM) There is a guy on youtube hover his BCPV2 in living room but the area is very small only. Great~~And my last crash I tried to lift my BCPV2 in sleeping room ......If you ever tried to hover the BCP in the toilet... do take video and post in youtube ya... sure there's many people out there will solute you... |
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Mar 23 2010, 01:40 PM
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maybe mr daddoo toilet as big as some ppl living room leh ?? hehehe
i have seen some ppl's toilet really big like living roomn of some condos laa .. that one can try la maybe my living room all full of stuff ... kids stuff and lots fo other stuff .. no guts to try try laa .. hahaha |
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Mar 23 2010, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(QiW @ Mar 23 2010, 01:40 PM) maybe mr daddoo toilet as big as some ppl living room leh ?? hehehe That is exectly what i meant~~ i have seen some ppl's toilet really big like living roomn of some condos laa .. that one can try la maybe my living room all full of stuff ... kids stuff and lots fo other stuff .. no guts to try try laa .. hahaha |
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Mar 23 2010, 02:11 PM
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I think my toilet is small and impossible to hover inside, 450 size heli will create tornado there
Last time my hand too itchy lah and little daughter was in the living room so choosen to try in sleeping room ... wahahahhahaha ... although it is an empty room but now I know I should not do this again |
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Mar 23 2010, 02:13 PM
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I'm not dare to hover my 4G6 in the room either.... too many stuffs in there... and the risk is too high...
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Mar 23 2010, 02:50 PM
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do not try to spin up your 450 in limited space especially if got other ppl around ... if anything goes wrong altho not your fault be it mechanical or radio or anything ... very hard to run away .. hahahaaha
and with esky radios ... always remember to on radio 1st b4 anything ... and its the last to be switched off after pulling batteries from heli i remember got ppl plug in batt but forgot to on radio ... the heli straight throttle up and took off ... lucky never hit anybody |
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Mar 23 2010, 03:45 PM
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To add up what you have said,
Check the settings on the ESky Tx as well before turning on, most important are idle up switch, throttle stick and throttle trim. These will accidentally turn the heli to spin up as well if not in the correct position. This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 23 2010, 03:50 PM |
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Mar 23 2010, 04:59 PM
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Hi guys, im a beginner and havent gotten myself a hand on a r/c heli yet, but i really interested in getting one.
I live in JB. Can anyone reccomend me nice good and slick 4CH r/c for beginner, i prefer those heli that as big as a palm of my hand. i like honey bee king II but it IS 6CH and i scared couldnt fly it proper. Do anyone also know if www.helipal.com is reliable? |
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Mar 23 2010, 05:41 PM
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Why not you choose the LHS? Helipal is an OHS and your shipment will go through custom and higher shipment fee.
There should be some LHS selling 4CH rc heli but I suggest you check with them first ..... |
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Mar 23 2010, 09:36 PM
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what is LHS?
Added on March 23, 2010, 10:08 pmguys can reccomend me online stores that i can buy my r/c heli. im looking for 4CH ones. also i need the flight simulator as i wanted to master using simulator first before flying the real stuff. This post has been edited by sLapshock: Mar 23 2010, 10:08 PM |
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Mar 23 2010, 10:16 PM
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LHS = local hobby shop
OHS = online hobby shop if u like small helis but no experience and would like a challenge .. i would recommend the walkera 4#6 or cb100 u can try this http://www.hobbysportz.com/ for the cb100 not sure u can get the 4#6 though otherwise if u are worried u will trash the heli too much and destroy it ... then just get an ESKY lama v3 or v4 (around rm200 or less) as for simulator .. google around for realflight or reflex or phoenix or just type in flight simulator and see what u can get but u will need a radio (remote control) to operate any of the above software |
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Mar 23 2010, 10:18 PM
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I think ESky Lama V3 or V4 maybe more suitable because it included all the things slapshock needs ...... but this depends on his/her preference loh whether he/she likes coaxial or FP.
Added on March 23, 2010, 10:21 pmI should have choosen LAMA V3 or V4 instead of my cheapo coaxial which is around RM100 last time. Then doing that I can get a USB sim cable somemore compare to my current situation where my RM100 coaxial sleeping in its coffin already .... This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 23 2010, 10:21 PM |
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Mar 23 2010, 10:23 PM
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guys im considering getting
E-sky V3 Lama from OHS for RM200 is it worth it for beginner? i never fly before wanna try as a new hobby Added on March 23, 2010, 10:25 pmcan anyone enlightened me whats the difference between Co-axial and FP..im thinking of getting E-sky V3 Lama but i dont if its worth it. also, i also wanted to get flight simulator. does the controller from esky can be connected thru usb? Added on March 23, 2010, 10:28 pmi comeacross this.. http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=2811 anyone know where i could get it? Added on March 23, 2010, 10:32 pmi also came across this... http://www.hobbysportz.com/index.php?main_...products_id=486 This post has been edited by sLapshock: Mar 23 2010, 10:32 PM |
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Mar 23 2010, 10:35 PM
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Just type this "ESKy Lama V3" in google and select display the page from Malaysia, then you should be able to find the suppliers. You may also want to check with them by email/phone call for availability.
Added on March 23, 2010, 11:14 pmQiw, Cliffang, you guys purchase anything from megastation recently? I tried to reach them through email and phone call but no response one .... you know what happen ar? This post has been edited by daddoo: Mar 23 2010, 11:14 PM |
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Mar 24 2010, 01:08 AM
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i just went to megastation today .. they are still operating as usual
maybe u called when the fella was in the toilet or something ?? hehehehe as for emails .. i dont think that fella got time to reply or even read emails lorr .. bz bz fella that guy |
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Mar 24 2010, 09:31 AM
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They have FB too... sometimes i reach them through FB~
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Mar 24 2010, 11:06 AM
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whats FB ah ??
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Mar 24 2010, 11:14 AM
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So guys which PBS would u reccomend me??my budget for a start is 400 I want p buy the simulator too...can anyone reccemd me ohs for me??? Thanks.
Also anywhere I could find lhs in jb?? |
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Mar 24 2010, 11:23 AM
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FB = FaceBook ......
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Mar 24 2010, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Mar 24 2010, 11:14 AM) So guys which PBS would u reccomend me??my budget for a start is 400 I want p buy the simulator too...can anyone reccemd me ohs for me??? Thanks. MAybe you can start with ESKY Big Lama?Also anywhere I could find lhs in jb?? I won't know any LHS at JB... but the LHS at my place got (Muar)... but still the KL's LHS is selling cheaper... |
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Mar 24 2010, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(sLapshock @ Mar 24 2010, 11:14 AM) So guys which PBS would u reccomend me??my budget for a start is 400 I want p buy the simulator too...can anyone reccemd me ohs for me??? Thanks. if u wanna get started without costing too much in crashing but still wanna have funAlso anywhere I could find lhs in jb?? just get an ESKY LAMA v3/v4 ... less than rm200 at most places .. u dont need the 2.4ghz ones coz that will cost more unless u live in an area with lots of RF interference the ESKY LAMA package comes with a softdog USB dongle which u can use with the ESKY radio in the PC (i am doing that now) .. software u can use the supplied one (not too good) or u can google for realflight + emulator (ahemm version) Added on March 24, 2010, 12:28 pm QUOTE(daddoo @ Mar 24 2010, 11:23 AM) FB = FaceBook ...... oooohhh ... sorry ... i dont do FB much at all one laa This post has been edited by QiW: Mar 24 2010, 12:28 PM |
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