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Hobbies R/C Helicopter v2

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QiW
post Sep 27 2010, 07:37 PM

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flying the plane is EZ ... the hard part is always the LANDING
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post Sep 27 2010, 09:26 PM

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Actually why some of the plane they need 4 servo and some only require 3 servo?
I thought we should have 2 for aileron, 1 for elevator and another one for rudder? or only 1 for aileron depends on the design?

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post Sep 27 2010, 09:39 PM

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sifus, are there any beginners models in the region of around RM150? thanks for any recommendations.
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post Sep 28 2010, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(daddoo @ Sep 27 2010, 09:26 PM)
Actually why some of the plane they need 4 servo and some only require 3 servo?
I thought we should have 2 for aileron, 1 for elevator and another one for rudder? or only 1 for aileron depends on the design?
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ya ... some of the models use 1 servo for aileron .. push pull design and some use 2 servos
most smaller size use 3-4 servos .. if u have retracts then have to add another 1-2 servos

delta wing designs uses only 2 + 1 servos .. 2 for elevons and sometimes 1 for rudder


Added on September 28, 2010, 12:36 am
QUOTE(wongpeter @ Sep 27 2010, 09:39 PM)
sifus, are there any beginners models in the region of around RM150? thanks for any recommendations.
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for about rm200 u can get an ESKY LAMA v3
thats the closest thing to real RC ..

This post has been edited by QiW: Sep 28 2010, 12:36 AM
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post Sep 28 2010, 01:18 AM

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Just got myself into RC... Bought a new Syma 8889 3.5c heli for RM160 from the RC shop in Tesco Kepong. Kinda feel like it's expensive, now that I read more about the stuff... What do you think guys?

3.5 channel
Adjustable trim control
Li-poly 500mAh 3.7V
N50 motor x2
Main rotor: 300mm
Dimensions: 370mm(L) 65mm (W) 150mm (H)
Gyro stabilzer

Ref: http://www.hobbysportz.com/index.php?main_...products_id=574 (source from internet, did not buy from this guy)

Always wanted to buy RC as a kid, daddy never buy for me sad.gif Now tua han liao, can buy my own biggrin.gif


Added on September 28, 2010, 1:31 amEdit: Maybe it's cheap after all tongue.gif new hobby, HAPPY WEI!

This post has been edited by thunder_kaminari: Sep 28 2010, 01:31 AM
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post Sep 28 2010, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(thunder_kaminari @ Sep 28 2010, 01:18 AM)
Just got myself into RC... Bought a new Syma 8889 3.5c heli for RM160 from the RC shop in Tesco Kepong. Kinda feel like it's expensive, now that I read more about the stuff... What do you think guys?

3.5 channel
Adjustable trim control
Li-poly 500mAh 3.7V
N50 motor x2
Main rotor: 300mm
Dimensions: 370mm(L) 65mm (W) 150mm (H)
Gyro stabilzer

Ref: http://www.hobbysportz.com/index.php?main_...products_id=574 (source from internet, did not buy from this guy)

Always wanted to buy RC as a kid, daddy never buy for me sad.gif Now tua han liao, can buy my own biggrin.gif


Added on September 28, 2010, 1:31 amEdit: Maybe it's cheap after all tongue.gif new hobby, HAPPY WEI!
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its the poison that will make u break your bank later .. hahahahahaa
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post Sep 28 2010, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(thunder_kaminari @ Sep 28 2010, 01:18 AM)
Just got myself into RC... Bought a new Syma 8889 3.5c heli for RM160 from the RC shop in Tesco Kepong. Kinda feel like it's expensive, now that I read more about the stuff... What do you think guys?

3.5 channel
Adjustable trim control
Li-poly 500mAh 3.7V
N50 motor x2
Main rotor: 300mm
Dimensions: 370mm(L) 65mm (W) 150mm (H)
Gyro stabilzer

Ref: http://www.hobbysportz.com/index.php?main_...products_id=574 (source from internet, did not buy from this guy)

Always wanted to buy RC as a kid, daddy never buy for me sad.gif Now tua han liao, can buy my own biggrin.gif


Added on September 28, 2010, 1:31 amEdit: Maybe it's cheap after all tongue.gif new hobby, HAPPY WEI!
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Why not buying from him? Hehehe, was it because higher price you've paid?
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post Sep 28 2010, 12:54 PM

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Nola it's cos I found this site and everything AFTER I bought my chopper ma haha... Plus the guy at Tesco lives same condo as me so I got consultation and service and everything lo
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post Sep 28 2010, 01:42 PM

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Any other beginner/trainer EPO plane to introduce?
I am looking for a wingspan size about 1400mm just like the cessna 182. Preferable ARF package and below RM450.
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post Sep 28 2010, 02:37 PM

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get the AXN glider http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...ductItem=1847... or even cheaper ... the ZAGI http://www.rcsmart.com.my/webshaper/store/...roductItem=1396
both of these has no wheels so u do not need to worry about landing so much ... just put some fiber tape on the bottom .. level out low and slide the plane in for landing
i started learning planes with a ZAGI .. it has taught me how to land properly etc etc but the ZAGI is not EPO laa .. the AXN glider is
currently the glider is selling for rm220 at rcsmart (comes with motor and esc) u just need to plug in 4x9g servos rx and batt to fly
the ZAGI selling for rm150 incldg motor and esc .. u plug in 2x9g servos rx and 2200 or smaller lipo

other planes may include the WILGA or E-STARTER .. but both these can break easily coz their foam quite brittle

once u start to fly properly with these planes there will be no stopping u except no place to fly ... hahahahahaa
there are much more variety compared to helis
heli and planes different kind of thrill laa ... both oso syok


Added on September 28, 2010, 2:44 pm
QUOTE(thunder_kaminari @ Sep 28 2010, 12:54 PM)
Nola it's cos I found this site and everything AFTER I bought my chopper ma haha... Plus the guy at Tesco lives same condo as me so I got consultation and service and everything lo
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just play with this heli that u bought ... DO NOT upgrade or anything as it will be a waste
if u kena poison and intend to upgrade your skills ... u can ask your friendly condo fella the next step that does not include upgrading your current set

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post Sep 28 2010, 03:26 PM

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I wanna upgrade the battery lo, wondering if u guys can help me comment pro and con...

I got some electronic knowledge so I can wire up 2 AA rechargeable batteries and tweak the voltage to about 3.7V, with Energizer batt 2x2000mAh(1.5V AA). Theoretically this should give me 8x more juice than my 3.7V 500mAh LiPo battery... right? Weight shouldn't be an issue as I tested it and it seems to be able to carry the extra few grams.

Appreciate your inputs!
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post Sep 28 2010, 03:32 PM

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your 3.7v 500mah lipo weighs next to nothing
the 2AA batt will easily make your heli overweight ... try tying 2 AA batt to your heli and see how it flies/cannot fly
helis are very weight sensitive ... and also the voltage of the power source/batt will determine the speed of your motor/rotor .. 3V using 2AA will be way way too low ... some of the electronics might not even operate

if u are really desperate to get higher mAH batt ... PM me .. i have a few 850mah 3.7V lipos .. hehehehe
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post Sep 28 2010, 03:47 PM

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I tied up 2AAA batts to it, seems fine, later tonight will try 4xAA and 2xAA. As I said, I can wire it to 3.7V, even easier if I can push it to 4.5V but I don't think that's wise hahaha...

500mAh and 850mAh like not much diff... So I'll have to turn you down lo haha... My aim is to use normal rechargeable batts instead so I can bring a battery replacement pack of maybe 10 batts and fly my heli all evening outdoor ^^
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post Sep 28 2010, 03:51 PM

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good ... watch the weight and the heat from your motor
carrying extra weight makes your motors work harder and cutting down lifespan ... plus those motors of your heli are BRUSHED motors
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post Sep 28 2010, 09:34 PM

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daddooo!!

"Turnigy servo really so bad? I just bought one DS480 and should reach me very very soon. I've seen good comment on DS480."

DAMN MAN! DS480 is the best servo i have ever use! but i dont know if its good for cyclic, but im using it for my tail servo..i paired with HK410B ... its the hardest tail ive ever played...

anyway ds480 cost more than 65mg at hobbyking..but this servo is really damn good...coz i just change to ds480 recently...damn awesome!!!
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post Sep 28 2010, 09:42 PM

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Ehehehehe, glad to hear that because I just got my Turnigy DS480. This will be paired with my KDS800 on BCP.

I got mine around USD22. By the way, how can you tell that the servo is awesome? Tail lock sui sui?


Maybe I have no fate with airplane, tried to look for the one I like from many hobby shop, either it is no stock or selling too expensive.
Appreciate for the recommendation from Qiw but those are not my cup of tea tongue.gif

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post Sep 28 2010, 09:53 PM

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i am using 9257 for my 450 PRO tail ... the original align 4s520 already reached EOL
the 9257 so far never let me down yet
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post Sep 28 2010, 10:52 PM

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I remember last time you said your 450 Pro has a little bit of drift, do you still encounter that issue with 9257?

Hehehehe, 9257 can buy almost 3 DS480 ........


Another thing to ask you guys, usually the picture of a CF blade we see on website is very shiny and glossy one, but do you still see the same with the actual one?



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post Sep 28 2010, 11:35 PM

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my PRo never drift ... how much is considered drift ??
5* in 30 seconds considered drift ??
well ... drift little bit is no matter to me ... as long as the tail dont buang when i do funny thing real helis dont do .. coz i not hovering sifoo like some others maa .. hahahahaha
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QUOTE(thunder_kaminari @ Sep 28 2010, 03:26 PM)
I wanna upgrade the battery lo, wondering if u guys can help me comment pro and con...

I got some electronic knowledge so I can wire up 2 AA rechargeable batteries and tweak the voltage to about 3.7V, with Energizer batt 2x2000mAh(1.5V AA). Theoretically this should give me 8x more juice than my 3.7V 500mAh LiPo battery... right? Weight shouldn't be an issue as I tested it and it seems to be able to carry the extra few grams.

Appreciate your inputs!
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i'm not really electronic savvy, but maybe you need to review the power output specs for both lipo and NiMH.

as i understands it, the reason why most electronic flyers uses lipos is because lipos provide higher power output and can withstand sudden high power draw in exchange for stability. so it can withstand the high power drain from the motors and still provide power for other stuff. normal NiMH may not be able to provide the same amount of power.

just a point for you check. sweat.gif

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