I planning to buy a RX-7 FC with a 13B-T rotary engine for daily drive and some zoom-zoom la "of course for clubbing too "..... for 40K budget,i not worry about that as it consider as an MyVi only but what make me really worry about is it's Fuel Consumption,everone know rotary loves to drink fuel.....

So does anybody here drive a RX-7 FC which can let me know a full tank can travel how far before the fuel light lit up?

Thanks

rm10=30-40km max...for maintenance u need to prepare at least 5k inside ur account in case of emergency...

lol oly, the way you answer very funny la

7~8km/L....town driving....

Lol, compare 7FC with Myvi...

one will make u broke on fuel n maintenance, the other wont
one guys love, the other girls love (guess which?)

high FC is another issue.

better understand the concept of Rotary engines, such as routine servicing.

you cannot compare with Myvi although both are 1.3 cc

This post has been edited by ah liew: Jan 29 2010, 09:02 AM

dont ask bout teh fuel consumption on the baby, its guzzel the fuel like nice cold beer on a hot day. hell my brother's subaru impreza already full tank dont last a week..maybe less than 5days and need to refill, prolly of heavy feet.

The whole concept of owning a RX-7, one who wouldn't be bothered about efficiency.

Amen to that

+1

sorry to ask, 40k for Rx7? which year?

Even the old FC3S won't fetch for only 40K, its higher

If I were to ever intend to own an RX7 (fd3s), I would be more worried in fixing the 13b rotary engine. Apex seals are always the culprits.

Furthermore, you have to pay in cash now to get these type of cars. Why not take the cash and down payment for something way newer like Rx8? And continue installment. At least at the end of the day you have a safe mind driving it and wont break down.

It's still rotary after all =p

As much negative comments you hear about the RX8, it can do below 2min45s (not entirely well modded) in Sepang, and that's pretty comparable to cars like Evo/Subaru/Type Rs for a car that is often labeled as a sissy car. It drives and handles really well for a RWD.

RM5k for emergency macam tarak cukup.

10 to 15k is more appropriate.

well, usually we should ignore people that ask about RX7 fuel consumption, clearly they should not own this car

btw, for rx8 to do below 2min45s at sepang is no easy task

Well the RX8's RENESIS engine is of course better than the old 13B engine of the RX7 plus fuel consumption also better

btw, even if get 2nd hand rx8, still need to prepaer some money just in case

btw,

Yeah sadly, the rotaries suffer from lack of torque as well

Heard that rotaries need to rev once in a while to prevent sludge build up in the engine.
Something like few rev a day keeps the mechanic away.

i asked the fuel consumption thing to a friend who used to own one....

this was way back in 2002 or 2003 when petrol was 1.75/L for RON97 if im not mistaken...(still cheaper than RON95 now)


full tank about RM90+...mostly travels on highways from cheras to klang and vice versa daily...

about 300-350KM max per full tank.


affording to buy is one thing...affording to drive it is another thing... and affording to maintain is also another thing.

imho, a person should be able to afford all 3 before actually owning....

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Jan 29 2010, 02:15 PM

constantly add engine oil

u know the drill, If u gotta ask, u can't afford it.

u know the drill, if the TS never posted again, you just got trolled.

since ur worry bout fuel ,later u will be worry the maintenance too.

Yet another typical clubbing punk who wants a cool ride but can afford a myvi only.

If i were u, i cut down the clubbing, save enough money and then get a decent ride. Even punk off the myvi is a good option too.

The RX7 is only for enthusiast and not for regular joes to own n maintain.

Any FC3S from 91 to 96......see the condition and mod have been done to the vehicle but usually it priced between 30K to 60K


Apex-seal problem are long time ago riao lo.....now ppl know how to take care them by constantly checking the engine oil/add if require,use premix to further lubricate the apex seal....

Oi bro.....RX8 are non turbocharged car la....cannot compare to turbocharged car.....btw RX8 are generally built for handling but i think Mazda had done something wrong by not putting a 13B-MSP-T into the engine bay

U are wrong sam.....18K baru ngam.....Ah Choy there replace 1 new RX-8 engine at 18K la.....

BUT this is for RX8....for RX7 FC 13B-T....7-10K is enuf oledi lo


Thanks bro.....this is the answer i waiting for....really details

But 300-350Km lebih kurang same with RX8 only la

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Added on January 29, 2010, 5:24 pmImagine....if a MyVi parked beside a RX7 FC.....and a girl had to choose which car to ride.....what do you think the girl will choose

This post has been edited by A Wil: Jan 29 2010, 05:24 PM

FC is.. old.. Only otaku girls who watch initial-d would choose FC.

uih, not bad ma, macam typical 3L car je but power vroom vroom

Then the chick will pick the RX7 but few kms later, the car engine blown or ran out of fuel, hence stranded in the highway or worse at the club;s entrance. The myvi meanwhile can bring back the chick home or to the nearest hill and u can use ur imagination what will happen next

Too much of Ryousuke

lol. if wanna club, better myvi. 3 chicks yo

Nicely built up FC is nice too leh.....do you know Mazda newly built RX8 oso got copied some of body shape off FC


Who ask u to not fill up the tank before go club....rotary can last over 200K if the engine is taken a good care.....only bullshiter like u when drive an RX7 will have such problem only......

This post has been edited by A Wil: Jan 29 2010, 05:50 PM

ooo TS got do homework one, accept my apologies TS

well, i mentioned at least 10 to 15k ma, 18k is for new engine, but sometime when the rotary failed you, you dont need to replace the whole thing as some parts still can use, unless you are super unlucky, so usually lesser than that abit lo

btw, i dont agree that Apex-seal problem are long time ago. why? because you might know how to take care it, but the owner before you, or the owner before the owner before you might not know.

maybe they rev hard before engine fully warm up, maybe they never redline everyday, maybe they dint top up oil every 1 or 2 petrol fill up. all these will lead to the engine failed you. its a matter of luck mostly.

FC design is nice, not as timeless like NSX, but its still nice, although i prefer FD more

btw, dont bother someone like travis_ckf la, he is saying like rx7 will spoilt every 50km of driving, and 1 full tank can drive for 100km nia. duh...really brainless reply

back to topic about FC, i dont really know how much it cost, but the worse i heard is 1 full tank can go less than 300km la. if really can get 350km per full tank, then its really very good already.


PS: tmn linkin, urs also can fetch 1 nia, why not change to myvi?

Friend.
If a girl chooses a RX7 over a guy which just drives a MYVI or old banger, then you better stay away from these type of b****es!

They are more costly to maintain than you think.

Look, my GF's father is a multi-millionaire, but my GF still sits in my old Nissan.

oi oi....choose girl for girlfriend material and 1 nite material is 2 diff thing

just need to use them properly ROFL

For RX-7, it is not only FC you need to worry about... it is the maintenance. Most for sale in the market (not many available), the engine needs rebuild.

Ok, now i understand u dont take jokes.

Btw u just a 18 yr old student and i doubt u frm a rich background else u wont considered the RX7 FC. With just RM40K only and w/o calculating how much u need to maintain n run it, i honestly think u might need to consider other sensible options.

I dono why u want the RX7 FC on the 1st place. U want is performance, or just its looks? If u really a true petrolhead, u wont even consider bordering the FC which states in ur thread title.

1st we know its a fuel drinker even just by driving normally, it consumes like it just ran 180kmh in the highway. With prices of fuel to go up i not sure if u willing to spend more for fuel. Being a clubber dont u think u willing to spend RM200 for a bottle of whiskey rather than paying RM200 per week for fuel just to go to class?

Btw good news is its a 1.3cc car so u eligble for full subsidery!

Parts. Well that not an issue if we living before 2010 but by 2011 u wont be getting anymore used parts from chop shops due to our gov rulling. By now prices of used parts form Japan have been skyrocketed as the chop shops will be taking this chance to maximize their business before close shop by 2011.

Wanna get new parts? Tough luck as they r very expensive and rare, u will be lucky if u find any tuning shops selling RX7 FC parts in sunway. Getting from Mazda Malaysia? Dont ever think about it.

U even mention urself the rotary can go over 200k if maintained well. So my question to u is are u willing to commit it? U need to learn the A to Z of basic engine maintainence and then understanding rotary engines. U need to find whoever really owned this car and u will be lucky if that person willing to share his knowledge to u. You still student and u better off concentrating ur time for studies but do u think its worth it spending soo much time n effort on a car that most ppl know its not worth it?

I doubt u have any passion on rotary but u doing stake coz u want a cool car to attract chicks in clubs. I understand that coz that how mosy of us feel when we r young. But trust me, once we at our mid 20 to 30++, most of us think its not worth it.

I not sure if u willing to listen my words here despite i allocated 30 mins of my working time writting this. If u still think i just an j@ckass n insisted to get a RX7 so u can get ur chick laid with u, i wont be stopping u either.

Good luck boy.

This post has been edited by travis_ckf: Jan 29 2010, 06:42 PM

Travis,
Save your breath for others whom appreciates you more.
It's not worth advising punks which think they know alot better than you.

I see that they rather listen to their immature friends than to listen to a wise one.

Just treat it as though TS posted in the wrong thread. Correct threads have proper and professional replies.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jan 29 2010, 06:51 PM

Ok Travis.....sorry about that as i am serious and didn't think u are joke...i know i had gotten too far already

I like the Fc look and performance.....for me 350Km a full tank is enought for me as i don't drive very far everyday....about Maintainance,i don't worry about it as i can say i know rotary quite well.....for maintenance it is quite easy to maintain,oil change at 3K Km,use of premix is enought already to ensure its longevity..... other thing like redline once a day/week will keep the engine clean......but i won't run the turbo at high bar as alot of boys racer do....if i ever own it i will run at 1bar or below thus longevity of apex-seal further increases

I am not listening to a experienced guy....im just like the look and performance.....whats wrong for someone who buy the thing he likes

Thanks for all the advise....

exactly!
a friend of mine own one. and he never complaint about the regular maintenance and the rm290 of ron97 for return trip from KL - Terengganu.
for every fun, there is a price to pay

btw, there is an Indian guy in Kepong which is specialized in rotary engine.
rotary isn't for average mechanic without a proper knowledge.

hi Bro!

I was having the assumption that you like Mazda's rotary hence picked an RX7. And continuing on as an advice without knowing whether you are a noob or someone who did his homework, I went on to point out that the apex seals are indeed a troublesome piece of hardware that one have to take care or else it is problematic.

Turbo charge or no turbo charge, I don't really care. The engineers at Mazda knows what they are doing. And just to point out that an RX8's performance is not far behind the makes of Evos/Subarus is me indirectly telling you that even though its not having a turbocharger, it is up to par with those cars in track. Its not all about driving a powerful car, handling matters too and the RX8 has the best of both worlds.

Lastly why would you need fellow forummers feedback here when you have done so much homework yourself on the technical bits of the car's engine, the pricing of engines and other stuff, how could you missed out the fuel consumption million dollar question? If you could find out that Ah Choy has new Rx8 engine at 18k, I'm sure you could also find out from the same source how is the car's fuel consumption...

Cheers,
=p

Ok bro...only 1 question....do you own a Mazda RX8 or any rotary powered vehicle

This post has been edited by A Wil: Jan 29 2010, 09:43 PM

rx8 lose out on raw power too much compare to evo/subaru imo, really too much , although handling wise it up to debate, and it more towards the driver.

during my last track day, the best rx8 lap time is 1:48, while an evo10 get 1:45, but the rx8 is turbocharged one la

btw, 1 think for sure rx8 and rx7 win evo/subaru (beside the latest version of both) is the sleekness of rx8, sexy

and i do agree that ah wil already know quite alot, like how to take care the engine and such. maybe he just want to see those that owns an rx7 can reply.

paging for xin

That turbo RX8 u mention about is goober one izzt

If you have to ask, you can't afford

This post has been edited by victor87: Jan 29 2010, 11:34 PM

Hmmm.. my friends and i never even bother to calculate the fuel consumption. All we know, each refuel will make our wallet cries blood haha. Anyway, FC does seems to be fuel-efficient during higher rev, meaning 5k and above. Thats what we found out after years driving it.

by the name Ah Choy u mentioned, it is the shop that located around USJ area that specialize in rotary aint it? Well, Ah choy will cut your throat when it comes to the charges, but one of his staff, Hau, always give us discount without ah choy's knowing hehe

Anyway, if u really decided to get one, dont forget to keep an extra money for maintenance. Make sure to buy a halfcut together when u buy the car. Rebuild the halfcut engine. When it is time for the current engine started to loss compression due to failing apex seal, just straight plonk in the halfcut one. I think most of the rotary owner would do this.

RX8 in terms of handling, it can handle
But in terms of performance, it is equalavent to a stock K20A but the K20A is still faster due to its gearing. RX8 has long freaking ratios ~_~

and torqueless lol

But RX8 stock can go 9000rpms or more

lulz... yea rx7 only can rev up to 7k while rx8 can up to 9k. Been inside of the rx8 (a manual version, owner name Jack) only once, the interior is way comfortable than rx7, especially the back Despite being n/a, the acceleration is decent.

Around K20A acceleration

Y leh....RX7 oso can rev up to 9K Rpm ma....Y cannot

yes

i ask when i buy my neo, but i can afford it

i ask when i buy iphone, but i also can afford it

i ask 100% of everything that i owns, and all i can afford it

I tell u wat... U go n add in Natural Gas tank la...

Depends on what you buy.... If someone who want to buy a Rotaries, they won't bother about the FC.

Not unless if you're Sultan of Brunei. Money can get you anything. Even a Ferrari Station Wagon oso can.



This post has been edited by alpha0201: Jan 30 2010, 11:31 AM

Can, why cannot?
Its just that its redline is lower than the RX8
RX8 redline at 9000 revs

+ 1
was initially on the crossroad when i decided to change my weekend ride. although both could use the same
engine i settled for one that give me more room (space and modification) and softer looks without attracting attention at the traffic stop.
never bother about the FC and maintenance coz' it will kill (the fun) the purpose of owning a performance car!

btw, i do complaint when my daily ride start drinking fuel like never before. after all, i know they must be something wrong with the car

Saw this inside an RX-7 at workshop.


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yes true.
Rotaries are well known to be a fuel guzzler and that it requires lots of care in comparison to conventional engines.

If TS is concerned about fuel consumption, the rotaries is a real no-no.

U are talking to the TS who is just 18 and still a student. He cant make proper decisions yet.

+1

Spot on. That what i tried to awaken him. A proper petrolhead who looking into buying a rotary engine sports cars will never thinks about fuel consumption. On that basis, the TS has failed on requirements of owning a rotary sports car.

Guess it all depended on himself. I rest my case. I hope he dont regret about this.

This post has been edited by travis_ckf: Jan 30 2010, 12:58 PM

by default, rx7 safe rev until 7k while 7.1k - 9k is already under the red line. As for rx8 (6 gear manual only) u can rev safely until 9k while afterward till 10k is already under the red line

that would be rx7 fd engine bay


@travis: let him be la... people learned their lesson through experience lol

Of course la....his RX8 is insane....cannot compare to any other RX8 in da club.....u oso special ma,facelifted 6AT.....in the club only one ler....the rest are at SG


Agree with u.....when driving a performance car....i shouldn't bother about Fuel Comsumption..... it can travel 300-400Km on a full tank is acceptable....if the car only can travel 5KM on a full tank then how.....u must know what the point i asking for