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 Astro B.yond V3.0, HD Content Available

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post Feb 10 2010, 08:10 AM

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AstInst...u r installer right?
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post Feb 10 2010, 08:48 AM

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ANYONE of u guys can access astro site now, abt 8.45am, Wed?
the site seems "hanged"

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post Feb 10 2010, 09:16 AM

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seems OK now
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post Feb 10 2010, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(silbii @ Feb 10 2010, 02:21 AM)
the coaxial cable is diameter is not thick, but the middle copper inside that sticks out at the f-connector is kinda thick and hard to bend...i work in a tv station too, so i (think) i'm kinda familiar with good broadcasting cables used for live broadcasts usage of OB vans etc...my old cables seem like some good quality rg 6 / rg 59 cables...but maybe i'm wrong...gotta check this with the tv engineering guys

still, i feel those new ones given by Astro seems so soft...and there's just a very thin copper inside which makes me feel like Astro's just been cost-savings by giving us average quality cables...coz it just look a tad better than an UHF / RF cable...hope not... tongue.gif

btw - about splitting...it's been a month++ and i've been using both decoders simultaneously everyday without any problems (touvh wood)...only one deoder is HD, the other one in another room, is still the old normal decoder ...so maybe this 'split' is ok?

well, just hope all these things do lasts... and i thought i was lucky huh? oh well...can't win 'em all

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Added on February 10, 2010, 3:05 amoops...got it wrong about the splitter...there's no splitter actually now, last time there was...that splitter is already removed...

now there's two independent cables from the sat dish to the decoders...one go to Beyond...one go to the normal one...so i guess i'm ok in this area now ...phew....glad! smile.gif
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There is no such thing as a "good" or "ok" split or splitter!

Try setting your B.yond decoder to a HD channel and then try watching ANY channel on your old decoder. Your old decoder will simply have no signal!

The reason for this is situation is DiSEqC switching ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DiSEqC ) that requires each Set Top Box to have its own dedicated feed. All major broadcasters in the world use DiSEqC to increase their capacity by switching between polarities, frequency bands and even satellite positions. Up until the launch of Astro B.yond all of Astro's broadcasts were single polarity and single frequency band, this totally removed the need for DiSEqC.

Now that Astro has HD and needs four times the capacity per channel they have had to use many new technologies including DiSEqC, MPEG4 and DVB-S2.

When your Astro B.yond box needs to tune to a high frequency signal on Measat 3a to receive HD it sends a 20Khz "tone" to the LNB, this switches a circuit in the LNB called the "Local Oscillator". At this point the LNB is only capable of receiving high frequency signals so any low frequency signals such as all the SD channels on Measat 3 are no longer there or "on the wire". The same is also true when switching between Horizontal and Vertical polarities, currently Astro only uses Vertical if ever they use Horizontal I am sure that a whole load of us will find new dish alignment problems.

Even if you only have SD Astro and not a B.yond Box then you should still not use splitters, each splitter halves the signal. Thus increasing rain fade significantly.

Astro have always supplied one dish with every box and that is what they expect to be installed, for every splitter installed the installer gets to keep a free dish to sell to someone else! All the Astro VIP's have one dish per box, no splitters and each dish is well aligned, so the VIPs get almost zero rain fade and that is what you could of had!

Thickness of or how bendy the cable is not an indication of quality, the quality of a cable for satellite is measured on its impact on the signal. A good cable is double screened, has a uniform capacitance along its length, a frequency response up to 2Khz and is protected by a coating that is 100% waterproof.

Try my test of trying of watching HD on B.yond and SD on your old box see what happens! As a professional in this industry for 20 years it shocks me that installers still do not understand DiSEqC and use splitters.

Splitters should only be used for one thing, throwing at the installer who tried to fit it! mad.gif


Added on February 10, 2010, 9:41 am
QUOTE(apexg2 @ Feb 10 2010, 08:10 AM)
AstInst...u r installer right?
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Not quite! I work on the professional side of the industry but not for Astro.

This post has been edited by AstInst: Feb 10 2010, 09:45 AM
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post Feb 10 2010, 10:34 AM

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hi guys, i read from the thread that favourite feature can be used already, but i can only ADD by pressing the RED button, when i press the FAV button nothing come out, is it working? or i do not know how to use it. thanks.
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post Feb 10 2010, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(AstInst @ Feb 10 2010, 09:40 AM)
blah blah blah
astro decoder actually uses 22KHz switch inside LNB, never uses any DiSEqC switch
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QUOTE(shakiraa @ Feb 10 2010, 10:34 AM)
hi guys, i read from the thread that favourite feature can be used already, but i can only ADD by pressing the RED button, when i press the FAV button nothing come out, is it working? or i do not know how to use it. thanks.
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ya lah ... me too ... even radio button also still not functioning ... really hard to understand this byond

i think this 1st of generation of byond just for trial only ... thats why free until this April ... after this April there's no different i think almost of the day i need to call astro CS to complaint ..
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QUOTE(neb @ Feb 10 2010, 12:08 PM)
astro decoder actually  uses 22KHz switch inside LNB, never uses any DiSEqC switch
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Ah, yes... sorry momentarily got my DiSEqC tone and Audio Frequency Response Test tones confused!

The Astro B.yond LNB has a DiSEqC switching in the LNB for switching between Horizontal, Vertical, Low Band and High Band, this is in line with the DiSEqC 1.0 standard.

DirectTV in the USA uses DiSEqC 1.1 to switch between 3 (up to 4) orbital positions, they are one of the few in the world doing this. There is a good image and article at http://www.ehow.com/how_4778123_align-direct-tv-dish.html

The other DiSEqC standards are more aimed at the enthusiast with a motorized dish (in countries where they are legal).

Some of the early (Astro) LNB's had no DiSEqC switching and are positioned to Vertical only and receiving in the low band only.


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post Feb 10 2010, 01:28 PM

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hmm i tried watching HD and SD at the same time in 2 diff decoder ok wor....mine is 1 dish 1 byond decoder and 1 old decoder set up..rain oso can watch

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post Feb 10 2010, 01:34 PM

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Why some particular people said cannot ?
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post Feb 10 2010, 01:45 PM

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donno .. wat it the problem ...
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QUOTE(AstInst @ Feb 10 2010, 09:40 AM)
There is no such thing as a "good" or "ok" split or splitter!

Astro have always supplied one dish with every box and that is what they expect to be installed, for every splitter installed the installer gets to keep a free dish to sell to someone else! All the Astro VIP's have one dish per box, no splitters and each dish is well aligned, so the VIPs get almost zero rain fade and that is what you could of had!

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Why Astro supplying the dual LNB (65cm dish) for those with 2 decoders?

If the account has 1 Byond & 1 SD DMT, what would happened?

Astro no longer supplying 1 DISH to 1 DECODER, that's my experience.

I'm from KEDAH.
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ok tried all the number code in the manual to synch my byond remote to my panasonic. found 2 code that can sych. but only work for the 'tv on/off" and the "av" button. No effect at all on the volume.

my model is L37G10. anyone has this same problem?
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Feb 10 2010, 01:56 PM)
ok tried all the number code in the manual to synch my byond remote to my panasonic. found 2 code that can sych. but only work for the 'tv on/off" and the "av" button. No effect at all on the volume.

my model is L37G10. anyone has this same problem?
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After you sync the remote, you need to Press “OK” and “vol +” until the remote blinks twice, then you can control your tv volume.

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post Feb 10 2010, 02:39 PM

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LNB with 2 connectors, I think this type of head houses 2 independent LNBs inside
I got this type of head brows.gif one connected to HD decoder, another through splitter connected to astro max brows.gif

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post Feb 10 2010, 04:37 PM

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does the b.yond send out signal through HDMI and composite simultaneously?
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post Feb 10 2010, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Feb 10 2010, 04:37 PM)
does the b.yond send out signal through HDMI and composite simultaneously?
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yes why not

my setup includes both HDMI and composite RCA as RCA channels gives better audio

btw, is the soccer match between Arsenal vs Liverpool in HD??
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2010, 04:44 PM)
yes why not

my setup includes both HDMI and composite RCA as RCA channels gives better audio

btw, is the soccer match between Arsenal  vs Liverpool in HD??
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I mean the composite video..not the audio
I plan to get the RF modulator to convert the composite video + L/R audio into the RF coaxial (that connected to my TV upstairs) so that I can view astro up there.
If the b.yond connected through HDMI to the AVR in living room, can I watch it upstairs via the b.yond's composite out (The yellow RCA) at the same time?
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Feb 10 2010, 02:19 PM)
After you sync the remote, you need to Press “OK” and “vol +” until the remote blinks twice, then you can control your tv volume.
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the volume button doesnt work if connect via HDMI cable .. doesnt work for whole life ... other than that OK kut ... some one on this forum told me that ....

but why if "fav" and "radio" button doesnt work ? ini yg pening nie ... i have tried almost 2 week still cannot ... 1 by 1 enter the code also not functioning for the button ...

ive call astro last week and told me to send Engineer to check ... until today no turn up ...

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Feb 10 2010, 04:56 PM)
I mean the composite video..not the audio
I plan to get the RF modulator to convert the composite video + L/R audio into the RF coaxial (that connected to my TV upstairs) so that I can view astro up there.
If the b.yond connected through HDMI to the AVR in living room, can I watch it upstairs via the b.yond's composite out (The yellow RCA) at the same time?
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Can, I do it all the time.

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