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post Feb 7 2010, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(neuroneuster @ Feb 7 2010, 01:57 AM)
i am really into this since Form 3, my sad age. `T-T
It doesn't have to do with horoscope but more to your own
perspective on how you deal with your life as a person.

I did several time and it says an INTP I am.
Am sure it might change someday,
but I dont deny some of my traits really turn out to be like INTP.
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you talk as if being INTP is bad.....
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post Feb 8 2010, 02:12 PM

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Is MBTI personality genetic (inherited) or circumstances (nurtured)?

Or both?

If both how is genetic or circumstances the dominant factor?

Thanks

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post Feb 8 2010, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 8 2010, 02:12 PM)
Is MBTI personality genetic (inherited) or circumstances (nurtured)?

Or both?

If both how is genetic or circumstances the dominant factor?

Thanks

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more like left/right handedness maybe. they perform the best when acting out their personality, and unsupervised they tend to act in such a way, but it can be beaten/trained to another trait.

ie. a messy child being trained to be more organised.
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Just adding another INFP to the thread. NT's may be interested in intellectual debate hence the number of NT's in this thread, but NF's are typically the "people-person" typeand naturally I'm one of those who love getting to know about people. Actually persuaded a lot of my friends to take the test, and started cataloging the results to assess the accuracy myself. I believe the test reveals the nature aspect of the human mind, but a person's background (nurture asepct) colors the personality type.

But, I'm happy there are others who are into this. What books do you guys have on MBTI? Some of my books:-

1. Please Understand Me
2. Please Understand Me II
3. Type Watching at Work
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post Feb 17 2010, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(eque @ Feb 17 2010, 02:29 PM)
Just adding another INFP to the thread.  NT's may be interested in intellectual debate hence the number of NT's in this thread, but NF's are typically the "people-person" typeand naturally I'm one of those who love getting to know about people.  Actually persuaded a lot of my friends to take the test, and started cataloging the results to assess the accuracy myself.  I believe the test reveals the nature aspect of the human mind, but a person's background (nurture asepct) colors the personality type.

But, I'm happy there are others who are into this.  What books do you guys have on MBTI?  Some of my books:-

1. Please Understand Me
2. Please Understand Me II
3. Type Watching at Work
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eque,

All of the above plus reading "Gift Differing".

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post Feb 17 2010, 11:06 PM

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is MBTI useful in human resource to find the best personality fit for a position? or would it be discrimination to say INTP cant work in entertainment etc? even if its useful, can a proper MBTI test be administered during interview process? as i think most will tend to lie under such stressful/critical situations.

eg. one of the MBTI question i see if "are deadline absolute or just guidelines?" now which sane interviewee would go and say "guidelines"?
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QUOTE(lin00b @ Feb 17 2010, 11:06 PM)
is MBTI useful in human resource to find the best personality fit for a position? or would it be discrimination to say INTP cant work in entertainment etc? even if its useful, can a proper MBTI test be administered during interview process? as i think most will tend to lie under such stressful/critical situations.

eg. one of the MBTI question i see if "are deadline absolute or just guidelines?" now which sane interviewee would go and say "guidelines"?
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<<MBTI question i see if "are deadline absolute or just guidelines?" now which sane interviewee would go and say "guidelines"?>>

Of course, no deadline is ABSOLUTE.

Depending on what kind of job that a person is applying to. Some answer is better than others.

<<is MBTI useful in human resource to find the best personality fit for a position? >>

Human resource is USELESS in any case.

<<would it be discrimination to say INTP cant work in entertainment etc? even if its useful, can a proper MBTI test be administered during interview process? >>

For a HIRING MANAGER, it is useful to figure out what kind of personality type that a person is. And, how does it fits in within existing group. And, why does a person need to administer a formal MBTI test to figure out a person's MBTI to begin with??

You are asking the WRONG question. In general, a DIVERSE MBTI types in a team works a lot better than a group with ONLY one type.

Diversity is good.

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post Feb 18 2010, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Feb 17 2010, 11:53 PM)
Of course, no deadline is ABSOLUTE.
to you and me, maybe. others will go missed deadlines=underperforming/overpromising=bad

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For a HIRING MANAGER, it is useful to figure out what kind of personality type that a person is.  And, how does it fits in within existing group.  And, why does a person need to administer a formal MBTI test to figure out a person's MBTI to begin with??
given that usually the hiring manager knows next to nothing about the applicant, how would he know that person's MBTI-type? the interview process is too brief to judge - given that nowadays "interview skill/tip/trick" is commonly used. (i know of people who has sample best answers to common interview question" memorized). even probation period (3 months, typically) is too short of a time to judge properly if that person is skilled enough to show a false "model employee" act.

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You are asking the WRONG question.  In general, a DIVERSE MBTI types in a team works a lot better than a group with ONLY one type.

Diversity is good.
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not necessary, diversity in a team is good, but for certain position, you may want a certain personality fit. eg. putting a "big picture" guy in a position that requires precise detailing might not be correct.

which also brings another thought in my mind. given that upper management is generally "big picture" and operations is generally "small details" and both are important in a team, is it justified to pay more salary to management?

i'm of course refering to the common mantra of "technical skill will only get you so far" and Es are given more value in general than Is
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QUOTE(lin00b @ Feb 18 2010, 04:47 AM)
to you and me, maybe. others will go missed deadlines=underperforming/overpromising=bad
given that usually the hiring manager knows next to nothing about the applicant, how would he know that person's MBTI-type? the interview process is too brief to judge - given that nowadays "interview skill/tip/trick" is commonly used. (i know of people who has sample best answers to common interview question" memorized). even probation period (3 months, typically) is too short of a time to judge properly if that person is skilled enough to show a false "model employee" act.
not necessary, diversity in a team is good, but for certain position, you may want a certain personality fit. eg. putting a "big picture" guy in a position that requires precise detailing might not be correct.

which also brings another thought in my mind. given that upper management is generally "big picture" and operations is generally "small details" and both are important in a team, is it justified to pay more salary to management?

i'm of course refering to the common mantra of "technical skill will only get you so far" and Es are given more value in general than Is
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lin00b,

<<given that usually the hiring manager knows next to nothing about the applicant,>>

Your statement is OBVIOUSLY wrong. Given that 80% of the position are filled before it even get posted, so most people are hired by referral / personal contact. The hiring manager knows a lot about the candidate through social network.

Interview in most cases are more formality than anything else.

<< which also brings another thought in my mind. given that upper management is generally "big picture" and operations is generally "small details" and both are important in a team, is it justified to pay more salary to management?>>

Will you give yourself less salary if you are in the management??

You need to learn "doing the job" interview...

http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/basics5.htm

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INTJ to me. Quite accurate as what described.

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Personality tests are always flawed. The most accurate personality test will always be a test with 1 single question:

1) What type of person are you?

In which you fill in the blanks exactly what type of person would you like to be.
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I'm an INFJ...90% accurate..
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i'm ESTJ. took the test twice and got the same results. 8.7% of the pop is in this category.
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QUOTE(frags @ Mar 8 2010, 08:51 PM)
Personality tests are always flawed. The most accurate personality test will always be a test with 1 single question:

1) What type of person are you?

In which you fill in the blanks exactly what type of person would you like to be.
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frags,

If a person CHOOSE not to be honest, you cannot find out the TRUE personality type with this kind of test. But, why would a person CHOOSE not to answer those kind of question HONESTLY just for themselves?? It is VERY USEFUL to know oneself. 50% of the battle is won by that according to Sun Tzu.

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I am INTP and INFP. How??? Is that possible???

I think both ring true to me. Could i possess two personality?? Last time i was INTP, and i describe myself last time as cold and cruel. But now whatever i try to change the test result, it keep come out INFP. I try manipulate the asnwer but it seem still INFP. AM i born hypocrite??

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Mar 11 2010, 08:33 PM)
I am INTP and INFP. How??? Is that possible???

I think both ring true  to me. Could i possess two personality?? Last time i was INTP, and i describe myself last time as cold and cruel. But now whatever it try to change the test result, it keep come out INFP. I try manipulate the asnwer but it seem still INFP. AM i born hypocrite??
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strong I, strong N, strong P, borderline T/F. sure possible
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QUOTE(lin00b @ Mar 11 2010, 10:02 PM)
strong I, strong N, strong P, borderline T/F. sure possible
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NONONO, INTJ and INFP....how???
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post Mar 12 2010, 01:11 AM

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Just curious, I am not interested in this kind of test, so what am I? I do agree with psycho analyse / personality profile but if you know yourself as you people have taken the test and agree to the result, so it is for those who are not certain of who and what they are like communist892003, haha.


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QUOTE(3dassets @ Mar 12 2010, 02:11 AM)
Just curious, I am not interested in this kind of test, so what am I? I do agree with psycho analyse / personality profile but if you know yourself as you people have taken the test and agree to the result, so it is for those who are not certain of who and what they are like communist892003, haha.
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post Mar 13 2010, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(thenightcrusader @ Mar 8 2010, 10:26 PM)
i'm ESTJ. took the test twice and got the same results. 8.7% of the pop is in this category.
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which is higher than average, since with 16 possible type, each type should have an equal 6.25%. but some rare type like INTP (like me) only has ~1.xx% of the population (if you ask me, i think this type find it hard to attract the opposite sex and pass on their genetic traits tongue.gif)

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