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post Jan 23 2010, 08:28 AM

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Poison question : Which brand of filters are good? Hoya, Keep, Octopus, etc. Would a more expensive brand be better? hmm.gif

I just bought a Keep UV filter. Feeling poisoned to be a CPL filter.

Anyway, need you guys to give tips and suggestion on "Noob guide to taking care of a DSLR" so that super noobs like me can refer to it for a complete guide : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1302392

Any tips would be much appreciated. Thx! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(achew @ Jan 23 2010, 08:37 AM)
b+w is good..hoya(pro1d or HD series) is good..cz is good too.. ^^

have u already understand the concept of shutter vs aperture vs iso??DoF??Metering?? i think if u already understand those..u can probably go out n start ur practical lessons already...if not..just google for those words..im sure there r alot useful info there
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Thx. Difficult to find Hoya filters here in Sibu. Searched around and only see KEEP filters. sweat.gif Imagine a KEEP UV filter 62mm for RM80..... no choice, had to buy as I wanted it fast to protect my front lens elements.... sad.gif

Going to search around garage sales for the Hoya CPL filter.

I have read on all those settings i.e. aperture/iso/DoF/Metering. Just that reading and practical is two BIG different things. Tried to play around with my camera's setting and got some awful pictures...... cry.gif

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QUOTE(kysham @ Jan 23 2010, 10:18 AM)
kmarc, buy online. there are a few reputable sellers. i think yannick is one of them, selling B+W filters. ask him lah. KEEP is a cheap and not very good filter brand. it does the job of protecting the front element, but also at the same time degrade the IQ. want to know how much it degrades the IQ? simple take 2 shots. 1 with filter and the other without filter. You should be able to see the difference. If it is acceptable to you, then no need to buy another more expensive filter. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Jan 23 2010, 10:23 AM)
you can buy online.
Even Zaloon Studio can also send to Sibu, if they have what you are looking for la.
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Alamak! KEEP is a cheap filter???? cry.gif cry.gif Rm80 down the drain....... cry.gif

Looks like I have to buy another new lens filter for protection. Maybe include a CPL filter!!! rclxm9.gif

Cool! Will look for sellers in garage section.....

If one were to choose, would you choose Hoya or B+W? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Jan 23 2010, 11:52 AM)
u bought for rm80? i think its expensive for cheapo brand bro.. Hoya n B+W is a good brand, but just beware sometime hoya got fake one, yannick sell original, if u got more budget go for pro1d or HD.. my advise: if u want an idea of filter price, go research 1st shashinki, yamiya website..
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QUOTE(hazril @ Jan 23 2010, 11:54 AM)
keep for rm80...kesian u bro...u wanna know whats the cost price for keep filter...???rm2.50 only.... tongue.gif

BTW,what metering is appropriate when using a flash...???thanx....
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Yup, RM80 in Sibu camera shops. cry.gif cry.gif

See how pity I am in Sibu.... I wanna go back to Kuching!!!! cry.gif cry.gif

Rm 2.50? rclxub.gif After I buy a new one, will give this one to my daughter as a toy.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 23 2010, 12:41 PM)
no la, rm80 is decent, summore urs is 62mm thread Not 55mm(a lot cheaper)....

if hoya HD or B+W slim, easily over rm200 already for 62mm...

kmarc, dont get too poison by people to get high end filter, the 18250 is just a normal lens... a simple filter protector can already.

as for CPL, i doubt is a good idea for u to shoot indoor (ur daughter), coz it will stop down 1-2 stop, where even ur flash cant really help~ too dark.

and if u plan to get 50mm, F1.8, that is 49mm thread, the 62 CPL (assuming u buying for 18250), u cant use it, diff thread size,... unless u go buy stepdown ring, 62>55 and 55>49 2 step down... + CPL,... i am very sure at 1.8, u see terrible vignetting.

think properly bout getting CPL, coz u get cheap one, the effect not much one. expensive one, is Very expensive. and u have to get the right thread size, who knows future u buying 1750 (great indoor portrait lens too) and it's 67mm thread, u cant use the 62mm thread, even u buy step up ring, it will affect the photo frame.
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Thx for the advice. I'm thinking about quality filters so that it doesn't degrade the image so much.

Errmmm, I thought CPL is for outdoors (e.g. sky) and reduce reflection? I'm thinking about the CPL for outdoors. smile.gif

Ok, I'll take your advice and not buy a CPL first. I will get a better quality UV filter mainly for my lens protection that doesn't degrade the image. Unless of course, the KEEP UV filter would not make much of a difference in image quality? hmm.gif

Note : There's a lot of people selling Canon or Nikon prime lenses (2nd hand) in garage sales but NOBODY selling Sony ones!!! rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jan 23 2010, 01:19 PM)
why sells? because once u use sony u wont want to let it go maaa..  notworthy.gif right?
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Owh.... true oso.... thumbup.gif

However, maybe they want to upgrade ma. Waiting for ieR to upgrade his gear and sell me cheap cheap..... whistling.gif


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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Jan 23 2010, 01:25 PM)
CPL is good, but use it with cautious, many people forgot to open it back after use, than its stack up with the uv filter hard to open it.. n forgot to take out n use cpl all day along even with normal photshoot.. at the dark area also use CPL, n question why blury, hard to focus etc2 lol.. biggrin.gif

n why hardly found 2ndhand prime? thats mean our prime is good.. no want to sell it except maybe 1 to upgrade to F1.4 or CZ,  brows.gif  brows.gif

oh yeah here go again CZ..  biggrin.gif
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I see.....

Ya ya, waiting for you guys to upgrade! drool.gif

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QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 23 2010, 06:45 PM)
yup yup, better decision.... but very depending on the market.... it might have a lot, it might dont have at all. the A550+cz package is hot selling cake... some ppl buy the package to sell the cz (brought cheaper, sell good price, like 55-200) but also, when pair with A550, its godly. so... very depending the market has or not, a good best price unit...  goodluck
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Aiyoooo... why didn't you teach me to do that!!!! mad.gif

Anyway, here's the reason why I bought my a550:

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Yeah, composition not good and picture blurred. No time to take that "moment" in time..... so sad...... sad.gif

Edit : I definitely going to get a prime lens!!! rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Jan 23 2010, 09:09 PM)
@kmarc

not prime bro..you need flash...not enuf light for your pic
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Errmmm... how to use the flash in this type of shot? Direct flash won't be nice right? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 23 2010, 09:40 PM)
Bro kmarc, sell me your flash..hehe....ermmm F20AM got built in diffuser right?
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Dowan! tongue.gif Maybe if somebody poison me some more on the greatness of remote wireless flashing using better flash gun drool.gif

Yup, the diffuser can be used when flashed directly and not when bounce flash.


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QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Jan 23 2010, 09:44 PM)
go to flash setting...use the slow sync flash mode or you can change ur iso to 800-1000 and add some exposure

if near distance i suggest you dont use flash..haha
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Cool. Will try that.

I don't even know what is slow sync flash mode. Have to google..... sweat.gif

Yeah, it was a close shot......

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QUOTE(nashakir @ Jan 23 2010, 09:49 PM)
kmarc put F58 upward 90 degree with bounce card.. TTL mode..
        heheh... biggrin.gif

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Wah! Some more poison? hmm.gif

Unfortunately, I still don't understand the TTL mode yet.... sweat.gif have to google some more....

QUOTE(kevinwcw @ Jan 23 2010, 09:51 PM)
if want potrait effect...keep some distance..maybe 50mm-100mm ...but make sure the kidz is far from the background...


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hehe..is 50F14
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Ok, but you know kids la, won't stay put for you to take pictures.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Jan 24 2010, 06:17 AM)
She's beautiful.  rclxms.gif
Is the photo post processed (PP) and cropped?
IMHO you need a wider (ie <50mm) and faster (ie bigger aperture) lense (prime or zoom).
I think, since you shoot indoors, if you have a wider lense, you'll be able to shoot a more full-er body subject (ie not just the face, but also your daughter's whole body as well). You will have more options in "cropping" and compositioning your photo.

Maybe a Tammy 1750F2.8 or 1680CZ ? hehe  brows.gif
or Sony SAL35F1.4G  drool.gif  brows.gif
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Thx. smile.gif

Nope, the photo was taken in JPEG. unprocessed and not cropped. It was a snap shot, didn't have time to get ready.

It was not because of the lens as I have the 18mm-250mm. I was just too near with my lens zoomed.

I've got a few other subsequent pictures which is clear but didn't get that "moment" that I want. So sad.....

Thx for suggesting the 1750 or 1680CZ.... I've already been poisoned kaw kaw.... sweat.gif

QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jan 24 2010, 08:40 AM)
y not 50f1.8? or if he can afford it 50f1.4
thumbup.gif "saya mesti pilih!"
a better alternative is the 1750f2.8
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Yeah, I'm looking for the 50f1.8 to complement my 18250..... nod.gif

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Jan 24 2010, 12:12 PM)

I did not realize that you have the 18250 lens. That lense should be wide enough for your indoor photo shots... but not fast (ie refering to aperture, not AF) enough for low light shooting. You'd have to bump up the ISO (which A550 is good in handling high ISO jpg) and/or lower the shutter speed (which is not ideal for shooting kids as it is difficult to make them stay still). For outdoor and bright sunny day, the 18250 would be good.  hmm.gif
Yeah, at night under fluorescent light not that good but way better than my compact.

Can't use slow shutter speed for my baby at the moment as she won't stay still. Furthermore, seems like she doesn't like me to take her photos as she will look any other way except towards the camera when I want to take photos!!! rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(jerrylyh @ Jan 25 2010, 02:53 AM)
Bro,May i know where is the diffuser?I cant seem 2 find it when Im fondling with the F20AM at a sony center few days back.Or you need 2 do some settings 1?what i remember is there are 2 types of settings you can do : 'direct or bounce' n 'normal or tele' only rite?please advise.planning 2 buy 1..anywhere can get cheap?1st or 2nd doesn't matter as long as there's warranty..ty..
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Oopss, sorry, I'm a super noob in DSLR.

I thought the "Tele" was a diffuser as I was told by the Sony centre person. I checked the manual and it says the "Tele" switch with [Tele position] at which the flash can reach further...... Sorry ya.... icon_rolleyes.gif

If you have the budget, most people will tell you to get a better flash gun rather than the F20AM. wink.gif
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Just wanna ask, how much does the sony lens 50mm f1.8 (SAL50f18) cost in KL?
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Jan 25 2010, 01:46 PM)
kmarc..i got mine for 399 during the offer...usually sony rec price is 599..maybe can get 520++
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Rm 399? Nice price. Errmmmm, what offer was that and which shop did you buy it from?

Over here, camera shops selling it for Rm550 after discount. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Jan 25 2010, 02:19 PM)
buy online la kmarc... murah
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Errmmm... shashinki selling for RM568 brand new leh.... which online sites gives cheaper? hmm.gif

QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Jan 25 2010, 03:44 PM)
guys...is it a must of getting a dry box..i actualyl keep my gear and camera in the gear bag and put inside the cabinet.....is it safe enough??

if its not,other than expensive dry box..wat can i have???
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It is not recommended to store in the bag in your cabinet especially for prolonged periods. Take a look at the on-going guide on DSLR storage. Still in progress but does cover storage:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1302392


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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 28 2010, 01:25 PM)
if buy oso maybe go studio zaloon lor~ uncle chin give discount kah?  tongue.gif
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Too bad I'm not in KL. Then can buy 3 together, ask for big big discount..... blush.gif
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QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 30 2010, 06:55 PM)
btw, i was thinking, out of the blue... since sony picked up Alpha series... why not come out a Omega series? (2 line of DSLR?)

then ppl will say, sony is the Alpha and Omega of DSLR? (sony is the beginning and the end of DSLR) LOL

btw, i realize something, the younger generation (born in 1990's) they seem to 'dont know' 'nikon or canon' they know sony, and they thought sony were DSLR for very very long time.... lol, it seem, sony might not win the hearts of diehard old man nikon and canon... perhaps it will win the hearts of the next generation tongue.gif (1990's were my sis and all her friends... we hang out and shoot a lot of photoes, thy love sony's picture)
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I just reached 1k on my a550 and I'm so glad I chose this camera as my first DSLR. From a point-and-shoot compact camera to a point-and-shoot DSLR. For me, nothing beats that!!! rclxms.gif

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Here's my first super duper noob photo for C&C. Kindly give your comments, criticism, advice, suggestion, etc. Thx.

Sunset TV - my 16 month old daughter enjoying TV in the evening (educational programs by the way.... wink.gif )

Did some super noob photoshopping too...

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QUOTE(achew @ Feb 2 2010, 12:58 PM)
somehow i would probably compose it horizontally..with the silhouette placed aroun 1/3~1/4 from the left..
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Errmmm... horizontal meaning landscape?

I can't shoot landscape as my sofa is at the back and there's the coffee table in front.... sweat.gif

1/3 to 1/4 to the left? Thx! Will try again next time..... thumbup.gif

Edit : Errmmm.... I was just thinking I should have moved the carpet and get the reflection from the floor....... hmm.gif

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