hello all, this is my 1st time do modding and post topic here, need some guideline from sifu-sifu here

the case i wanna mod :


some stuff i buy :



after cutting:



before i start :

1)i wanna know if i wanna apply a coat of primer, do i need to sand the old paint before i paint the primer ?
2)if need to sand off, wat grit should i use ? 280 ? 400 ? 600 ? currently i only got 280 grit. ( the shop didnt got stock for 400 and 600 )
3)refer to above pic, how do i recognize if the can he give me is primer or not ? cuz the label of primer (grey 1 on pic) and the metalic black (black 1 on right) are same, both labelled spray paint and i didnt saw any "primer" word on the grey can so i wonder if the staff give me the right thing ?

i hope sifu-sifu here can give me some guide cuz i dun want to screws things up

thx

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Mar 6 2010, 01:58 PM

dun use 280 grit !!

)always sand b4 spray.
2)use 800 & 1000 grit or higher, use 800 1st then 1000 grit.
3)buy a white color spray n use as primer.

i oredi bought 2 pieces of 280 grit i asked that abunene what grit should i use to sand off old paint, then he give me 280 grit

800 grit to sand off old paint ? need to sand off all the paint or... ?

white color paint as primer ? then wat is the difference between primer and normal paint ?

sry for a lot of question and thx for the reply

if the current paint is thick use this..
PYE STRIPPA M

dont use low grit coz will leave deep scratch mark...u need many layer to cover this....

where can i get that PYE STRIPPA M and how much it cost ?

can i juz sand it off with sand paper ?

normal hardware hv...but not just PYE brand...
try ask for paint stripper for metal....
the price i dont know exactly but i think around RM10...

dont know how thick ur paint now...try scrape abit...
if its very thin can use sandpaper...

This post has been edited by mfared77: Jan 21 2010, 03:47 PM

the paint are quiet thick...

then u need paint stripper... easier to remove using it....

ok, i try to find it later on at nearby hardware shop. thx

will update later

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ok, i check up the nearby hardware shop and found this :



that roll is 400 and 600 grit sandpaper

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Jan 21 2010, 05:08 PM

i think u dun need to remove ur current paint coz dun hav scratch on it.
u just buy 1k or 1.5 grit sand paper. then just spray.

yes there are no scratch on the surface but the paint ripped off at the edge of the cutted window

and currently i cant find 1500 grid sandpaper at my place, only got 1000 grit.

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update 21/01/2010 7:00pm



ok, wat should i do now ? sand it ?

now the old paint oredi clean off using PYE STRIPPA M, but still got some left over...400 or 600 grit should i use to sand ?

thx

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Jan 23 2010, 05:37 PM

u hv 800 grit...?600 is rough i think...
i think 800 can minimize the scratches...then 1k grit...
after spraying will gone...

ur final colour is glossy or matte...?

This post has been edited by mfared77: Jan 21 2010, 07:57 PM

i bought 2 cans of metallic black. i oso had a can of primer.

that mean i need to sand it using 800 then after that 1000 grit ? sand it hardly or lightly ?

thx

so its glossy...
ok glossy type might take longer time to dry...
so patient is the key word...

sanding is up to u....harder u get tired quickly....
lightly u'll take long time to finish...
tips: take a matchbox size thing, cut the sandpaper length size to the matchbox and rap it around the box...its easier to do the sanding....

the primer just 1 thin layer...enough...
its glossy paint so i think 2 layer would be enough...
first layer just to cover all surface...can see the primer also no problem...
try spraying 1 way, 1 time per line....
second layer to bring up the glossy of the paint....
make sure each layer is dry enough to do another layer....

try on another surface first if u not sure...trial n error...

1 layer of primer enough ? i saw other painting guide said that after primer is up, sand a bit, repeat the step few time to get smooth surface, after that apply few layer of paint to get shiny surface...

DPI Grey is ur primer...?
if u spray and the surface is rough, u can sand it...
i think that 1 dont give u a rough surface...

yea, the grey 1 is primer (im not sure is it primer or not, the abunene in the hardware shop take that to me when i request primer )

if it didnt give out rough surface, then no need to sand ?



This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Jan 21 2010, 09:38 PM

yup...
try on something else first before u do on the casing....

found a clip in youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_YY83dGbEI

but they hv powertool... but the step in almost the same...
first primer then 1 layer on colour coat and clear coat...ok lar they using clear coat for finishing...
but the step same for u....

This post has been edited by mfared77: Jan 21 2010, 09:42 PM

i saw that video b4

i think i'll go for 2 coat of primer, now i need to drill the screw hole for the acrylic window

thx again

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Update 22/01/2010 11:30 am:



move on to next step ---> painting

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Jan 23 2010, 05:39 PM

TS, u like to read guide or not?

if yes, i have something for you

PC Chop Shop Chapter 8: Painting.

thx Fili
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yea i do a lot of reading before start this project and thx for the link u give, now reading it

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This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Jan 23 2010, 05:33 PM

u should sand the surface first before u do the primer...
let the primer dry before u sand it...

usually need to wait how long before i sand it ? i saw other post on other forum is 24 hours....but i cant wait !!!! 12 hours ok ?

better let it for 24hr...

cant wait 24 hours....sanded juz now (wet sand 400 and 600 grit)

now wait it to dry and apply 2nd primer coat

post pic bro. every single steps u do.

ok sir

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Update 23/01/2010 2:32 pm:



waiting it to dry before i apply white primer as guide primer

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Update 23/01/2010 5:27 pm:

apply guide primer (white)



again, wait it to dry completely before sand.....(i hate to wait )

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Added on January 23, 2010, 6:14 pmsomeone plz tell me how to solve this......



cutting not good.....

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Jan 23 2010, 06:14 PM

how ?

sand the paint to bare metal... go hypermart buy the glue called epoxy... two tube one... mix it... applied... let it dry out... than applied again... let it filled up... than sand away the extra. remember to sand the paint 1st or it will not stick...

there are other stuff called bondo but it will not be as strong as epoxy.

need to sand down the paint...(tired...)

btw, i heard b4 the 'bondo' thing but where can i get it ? Thx

bondo aka filler aka plaster can get at hardware shop... same thing... need to sand to bare metal.

apply eposy and ready to sand after 24 hours waiting


after sanding, yea its smooth
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This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Jan 30 2010, 07:49 PM

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh nice one. Very rajin

Why u dun use samurai spray paint ?

bro,wat is hacksaw ??

thx. saw that hole really make me sweat a lot
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cant find it at my local hardware shop, only got anchor brand mind to tell me how much for 1 can of samurai spray paint?
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it look like this.


currently final exam in progress, so modding onhold until friday, stay tune for more update

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 1 2010, 08:05 PM

Normal colour of Samurai brand is RM 6

woot, thats cheap but hardware shop nearby my place didn't sell this brand



This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 6 2010, 07:07 PM

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Update 07/02/2010 5:20pm:

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This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 7 2010, 10:04 PM

Update 11/02/2010 10:00am:

Area 51 V2_Black

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This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 11 2010, 02:04 PM

Not bad,keep it up
Btw, did you apply any transparent coating for finishing?

thx bro, yes i will apply a clear coat after finish painting all the parts

can give me some advise on how to apply clear coat ? thin layer by layer or thick layer ? clear coat are tricky to apply


here some practise i do on back plate:

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This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 11 2010, 05:37 PM

is that black ? or metalic black ??
y ur black like tat ?

erm...that is metallic black. i oso dunno why it like that it looks didnt 'metallic' to me

Maybe caused by the flash effect of your camera...

erm..maybe, but the side panel oso seems like a bit dull, the metallic flake will only shows up under strong sunlight

Because you are using some generic spraying can, not the high quality paint used for car...

This post has been edited by chanws8: Feb 11 2010, 07:04 PM

nvm, i'll try my best to get as shiny as car finish.

Update 12/02/2010 02:18 pm:

here its comes, AREA 51 (V3) Metallic black + Clear coat !

wahhh clear coat omg..

how much u bought for 1 can?? i heard its far way expensive then normal paint spray..

and ur metallic black is a bit light in colour.. mine last time was a bit darker

price are variuos from place to place, lol far way expensive ? not actually

i buy at hardware shop RM5 per can, when buy at super market, RM 7.90 per can, same brand "Anchor".

the most expensive 1 are Flourescent color, 1 can = RM10, i buy 3 total RM30 bankrap lo ....

FYI, metallic color = RM5.50, flat color = RM5.00,


edit : about the darkness of the paint, depend on the angle u see it, some angle more darker, some angle more lighter.

maybe my camera shoot not properly, it appear lighter color than actual.

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 12 2010, 03:14 PM

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very bright o

for sure will look very nice hehehe

ye ker .. i ask my supplier.. clear coat for matte black is RM3x

metallic colours and flourescent is RM10 here while primer and normal ones range from RM6 - RM8 xD

RM30+ for clear coat ?

im using Anchor brand, primer also RM5 like normal color.

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cuz is flourescent colour, so it will looks brighter. (i wonder will it glow in dark? )

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 13 2010, 01:04 AM

hmm didn't know anchor got clear.. may i know what colour code for it ^^?

and i never used fluorescent before.. sakit mata haha i got astig problem

sure, the code for clear is 1.



This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 13 2010, 02:06 AM

fluorescent can glow of course haha
heck it's bright enough that it looks like it is glowing..with or without black light aka uv light

This post has been edited by Jinster: Feb 13 2010, 05:27 AM

like ur metalic black very much ler.
rm30+ for a clear coat damn expensive,me here rm5.50 oni ler...

the fluorescent can glow under uv light.
so u have to put ur uv light at outside, oni it will glow...

u will like it more afterward

no need to put UV outside cuz my interior also painted with same Flourescent orange.

currently waiting and waiting for the clear coat to dry through before i sand, lol

wat to do while waiting? swap my PSU fan to a bling bling 1

fuyoh.cant wait to c the outcome.
did tis case hav any relation with alienware ??

This post has been edited by lun1986: Feb 13 2010, 03:49 PM

juz a chapalang casing with alienware design, didn't have any relation with alienware (but this 1 really looks like alienware, juz missing a alien head logo only )

edited: i now figure out a way to make a alien head logo to stick on it, got any idea on how to made it let me know

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 13 2010, 04:29 PM

ask niclasteoh to custom made arcylic laser cut for alien head bro

hmm, i wan something that looks 3D like this


maybe i can try DIY it with epoxy?

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 13 2010, 06:39 PM

Side Quest ! make a alienware logo



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but afterward i realize that plasticine cannot be hardened

while im staring at it and stretching my head for another alternative, my mum comes by and said: why don't u use flour dough? it can be harden using oven or put it under sun light. Hey, that a good idea!



This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 14 2010, 02:37 PM

Plasticine cannot do it , dun waste your money . Use fiber filter to do it

ya, after i done and searching a way to made it harden at internet, google tell me plasticine cannot be hardened permanantly

edited: mind to tell me how much for the fiber filter and where can i get it? does it harden very fast, cuz i need quit some time to shape the alien eyes.

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 14 2010, 02:41 PM

a lot hardware shop also got sell it , or u can go to find reiben05 . I think it not harden very fast ,if it harden very fast then u can sand it

http://www.youtube.com/user/MonsterMawd#p/u/85/DtuVE2CC7qw

oh thx for the link, got many other great mod at there also

that is some creativity there bro haha.. how about if u try clay o.O? its solid hard and easy to bentuk

that cookies u bake for chinese new year ar?? ahaha

This post has been edited by reiben05: Feb 14 2010, 06:28 PM

clay? mind to tell me more about it? where can buy and how much?

erm, about the flour dough, i juz mix with water, no egg no sugar, can bake it but no 'rasa'

1st time see a 'alienware' cookies?


ok, i found this: homemade clay

This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 15 2010, 10:38 PM

u could try putting shredded newspaper or paper in water and soak it and then just paste plus mold it to shapes

=.=" those u use to make pasu/pots is clay .. u can shape it u know .. can get from kedai pasu i think.. or u can ask them to make for u..

This post has been edited by reiben05: Feb 14 2010, 09:38 PM

Will it more expensive than the fiber filter ?

the finished product would have smooth surface?
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hmm, i think can get it free, cuz juz need a little bit only ma but nearby my place no kedai pasu wor...

is it fiber filler or fiber filter?

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This post has been edited by blaze_spirit: Feb 15 2010, 10:42 AM

examples
http://www.mashie.org/index.html
and
http://www.mashie.org/casemods/asteroid1.html

well it's actually paper mache
smooth or not, depends on how u do it

this is just an idea though haha..if u hav a lot of time that is =P
there was a guy that did this and won in some pc competition, i forgot where is the webbie already >< sorry

Paper Mache Recipes:
Use one of these 3 Paper Mache Recipes:

Recipe 1/ Ingredients: Flour,water,paper
Stir three parts water into one part flour until the mixture is smooth and creamy.
To make the paste last longer, add a few drops of oil of Wintergreen. (optional) You can buy this oil at a drugstore.
Stir well and the paste is ready to use.
Now you need paper- newspaper works well!
Dip each piece of paper in the liquid mixture and apply it one piece at a time to form your shapes.

Recipe 2/ Ingredients: Wallpaper paste,water,paper
Buy some wallpaper paste at a hardware store.
Mix one part wallpaper paste with three parts water.
Stir well and the paste is ready to use.
Now you need paper- newspaper works well!
Dip each piece of paper in the liquid mixture and apply it one piece at a time to form your shapes.

Recipe 3/ Ingredients: Glue,water,paper
Mix two parts white glue with one part warm water.
Stir well and the Paste is ready to use.
Now you need paper-newspaper works well!
Dip each piece of paper in the liquid mixture and apply it one piece at a time to form your shapes.

This post has been edited by Jinster: Feb 14 2010, 10:23 PM

hmm, i wonder will tissue paper or toilet paper works? cuz newspaper didnt look nice, looks a bit dirty

btw, thx for the link, a very good site for my reference

toilet paper is better..
i've tried tissue...LOL..not advisable
u can try though hahaha..
actually the newspaper of course would make it dirty but that doesn't matter, u only want the mould/shape..after that can paint or spray or anything..
toilet paper/tissue would slightly be black or yellow...well it turns out differently when i do it compared to when my sister does it haha

im curious to know what artwork u do, can show it to me?

u should refer to this thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/708742

just hobby only
years back when i was studying that is..
as u know this stuff creates some kind of pattern when it's dried, i applied it on most of my book covers then paint it + wrap it with plastic wrapper
the effect is nice ^^ looks like dried earth cracks haha..
other artwork for example, well it's like playing with plasticine, only thing is it'll get dried and stay that way haha...
can make models such as animals, fruits, anything depending on ur imagination..

well, for computer wise, u can apply this on the casing panels..front, side, back, top..just need a lot of materials and time and creative ideas hahahaha

ahh yes! i forgot there's this thread hahaha

This post has been edited by Jinster: Feb 14 2010, 11:53 PM

impressive, nice job.
now not oni paintin case gua, totally moddin

Thx for the link mate
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earth cracks effect nice effect but i think cant apply to the alienhead,
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thx for the support