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imax80
post Mar 18 2010, 01:00 PM

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how to monitor NAV for certain UT fund for the latest one?
can i buy UT units online without UT agents, i want to control the U.T myself?
what charges involve?
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post Mar 19 2010, 08:19 PM

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thank you very much for answering my questions. actually i have not invested in any U.T..still looking for suitable fund for me.

any recommendation for current fund that still open to investors?
preferably Under Public Mutual or CIMB.

what others strategy other than DCA(Dollar Cost Averaging) and switching in U.T investment strategies?

which one is better to monitor current fund NAV..public mutual website or lipperleadders?

hope anyone could reply

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post Mar 19 2010, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 19 2010, 10:07 PM)
If you are looking for UT's which are suitable for you, suggest that you need to know about your risk tolerance first. There are many site which does a free risk profiling for you with questionnaires. Although this is somewhat inaccurate, at least you know where you stand.  laugh.gif

After you are sure of your risk profile, then you can plan your holdings, ie. percentage of each fund/sector that you want to hold. Diversification is recommended so you do not lose everything if a fund tanks, especially a high risk funds.  sweat.gif For me I am concentrated in Malaysia, Asia Pac ex Japan, a little europe and US with a sum in pure China & commodities. Bond and cash funds provide stability in my holdings.

To gauge which funds have relatively good performance, you may refer to charts available online at lipper or morningstar. For me i do not chase the best performer, rather those with consistent earnings and lose the LEAST during a recession. Preservation of capital is important for me. Read the fund fact sheet and annual reports. Be wary of high initial and annual fees.

For me, unfortunately i do not use DCA, i buy on weakness and sell on strength. DCA will get you on average performance, which if it is suitable for you, then go for it. Switching in UT is an important strategy, however you need to use it sparingly since there are massive charges involved (ie. pay a lot of initial charge). You may switch to rebalanced your portfolio, ie. sell those with high profit and move them to the least profit or to lower/increase your exposure to risks. I am now actively re balancing most of my equity portfolio to bonds on market out performance.  laugh.gif

Don't just monitor NAV, you must also include the dividends you receive in calculating profits. You can check the nav at each respective UT site.
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great explanation really appreciate it.

I like medium risk like Public Ittikal, purpose for long term for retirement. Which one is actually good local exposure or global exposure in your opinion?

planning to invest initial RM10,000 and watch the NAV and do DCA if necessary especially if NAV go down. I will top up more after the dividen declaration because the NAV will reduce in price but my total units will increase. If the fund not performing in 3-4 years and NAV keep downtrend I will either do switching or withdraw my investment. Is it normal things to do for any investor?

On switching technique, the switching from equity fund to bond or money market, what actually that means? and what is low loaded and loaded funds?

appreciate any reply
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post Mar 21 2010, 06:20 PM

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question from me learner

how to read the graphical chart fund performance in PM website?

what is the X and Y axis means?
what is the read and blue lines indicate?

appreciate any reply.
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post Mar 21 2010, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 21 2010, 07:43 PM)
X: Time in term of date
Y: Gross return in term of percentage

Blue line: Fund performance
Red line: Benchmark performance
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thank you very much David83.


Added on March 21, 2010, 9:15 pm
QUOTE(Jordy @ Mar 21 2010, 07:42 PM)
imax80,

Are you suffering from any sight problems or are you trying to make a joke? Everything is written there VERY clearly.
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oo sorry Jordy, yes everything is explain but i just want to know the general meaning of the graph indicitor i.e Y: Gross return in term of percentage

i am really a beginner


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post Mar 25 2010, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 24 2010, 11:03 PM)
All my funds are auto-reinvest and get taxed every year . Public mutual send me the tax voucher every year as well cry.gif


Added on March 24, 2010, 11:05 pm

I moved to fsm.sg, most of the funds there does not pay dividend, furthermore dividend is tax free in sg.  brows.gif
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I thought one way to avoid tax is to reinvest the dividen? how come you get taxed?
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post Mar 26 2010, 04:37 PM

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i found out that ETF (Exchange Traded Fund) which is traded directly in KLSE is very much similar with UT in term of risk and return. Some more the fees involved is much lower and can trading online via M2U.

I also read somwhere that if ETF expanded in KLSE it might beat UT industry.
appreciate comment from expert here?
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post Mar 28 2010, 02:35 PM

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I wan to invest in U.T, below are my calculation for total units,service charge,dividen and total investment after distribution. The figure use is for example calculation only.


Fund A
Price per unit = RM0.2500
service charge = 5.5%
Total Investment = RM5,000

Total Units = RM0.2500 X 5.5% = RM0.0138
RM0.0138 + RM0.2500 = RM0.2638
RM5000/RM0.2638 = 18,953.75 units


Total Service Charge = RM0.2500 X 18,953.75 = RM4738.44
RM5000 - RMRM4738.44 = RM261.56


Let say on distribution day
NAV = RM0.30
Dividen = RM0.05 per unit
18,953.75 units X RM0.05 = RM947.69
Total investment = RM4738.44 + RM947.69 = RM5,686.13


Let say after distribution day
NAV = RM0.25
Reinvest dividen = RM947.69 / RM0.25 = 3790.76 units

so,
total new total units = 3790.76 + 18,953.75 = 22,744.51 units
total investment after distribution = 22,744.51 X RM0.25 = RM5,686.13



is my calculation above correct? appreciate any comments

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post Apr 6 2010, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Apr 4 2010, 10:39 PM)
I used EPF to invest these 2 funds: PISTF and PISSF. Now is earning 21% & 26% respectively since I bought in Aug 2008, thinking to switch and park at other lower risk funds or bond, not to sell first to save the admin fee if want to invest again, any suggestion?

Shld I still keep this 2 funds or switch to other funds coz afraid the prices drop. The price will go further or now is the high side? Sorry coz didn't know their past performance.  Thanks.
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how long you had been investing in these funds? on what indicitor you use as a base to switch your funds to lower risk funds or bond? the KL composite index?

how you forecast the prices will drop in the future..based on FA or TA. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 12 2010, 05:51 PM

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I heard we can apply Overdraft Facility Against our U.T Funds in Public Mutual in Public bank..is that true? is it good to use the OD facility? what is the interest like?
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post Apr 12 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 12 2010, 07:49 PM)
No, not an real overdraft facility, but more like a flexible loan with your U.T. funds as collateral. During the loan period, the funds are no longer yours, you cannot sell or switch. In case you fail to pay your monthly repayments, your U.T. will be sold against your will to pay your debts.  laugh.gif

Anyway here is the plan.. called Uniflex Plan.
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sound like not good to me..cannot switch means cannot lock profit during market down
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post Apr 12 2010, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Apr 12 2010, 09:28 PM)
the od against ut details is at follows:

a) MOA is 80% of the UT value
b) Interest at BLR-1%
c) can aply to waive the commitment fee in case your OD facility is > RM250K, below 250K no commitement fee of 1%
c) stamp duty on the doucmentation is flat rate at 0.5% x total amount of your loan
d) apply, L/O out and OD released within 1 week time, PBB very efficient.

Note: i dont work for PBB or PMutual, just a customer that using the same facility.
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means,
BLR 5.8-1 = 4.8%??

u r very confident u are not gonna switch your fund someday?
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post Apr 12 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Apr 12 2010, 10:47 PM)
switching is allowed even u have pledged the unit trust to PBB. Just write in and attach with a switching form, submit it to the home branch for processing. The PBB officer then will process and fax to Public Mutual for their action. I have switched once in Feb, all done in the same day, PBB/PM are very efficient. Yes, the OD rate is 4.8%
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good to hear that we can switch ...its very interestng with OD to top up with salary at month end and credit card to save interest. thumbup.gif
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post Apr 26 2010, 01:00 PM

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i think thie thred deserve to be merged with the existing thread Public Mutual Fund.

By the way Ern3st , how actually you analysis the Fund whether it has the potential to increase in NAV, is it merely based on fundamental(internal,external related news, makro/mikro economic condition) ? comparing the fund graph with the broad market(KLCI/Hap Seng/Shanghi?)?
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post Jun 22 2010, 03:28 PM

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so, how the prospect of PM funds with exposure in china market after china government revised their currency rate?
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post Nov 26 2010, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ Nov 25 2010, 05:13 PM)
Guys, my mom had actually invested in PM by an agent.
But all these while, she doesn't know what's happening.
She just receive the statement and throws em.
The only thing is , she has been told that it takes min 3 years to mature and she will definitely get more than the money she invested + interests.
So, recently I've been reading up on some investments threads and was wondering if u guys could guide me how to understand the statement and progress.
Because this investment is purely by relative recommendation, and my mum never met this agent before, so I am curious if he's doin what he's supposed to do.

What info do you need for the above? The statement?
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get back to the UT prospectus and read them, where the fund invesed? how many % local and foreign equities and which sectors the major portion of the fund invested (construction? property? consumer? banking? healtcare? ).

Track the stock markets index i.e FMBKLCI, Hang Seng, Shangai index? and track the UT fund progress

Normally the UT fund will move in tandem with stock market index. stock market down, fund price also down.
Keep abreast with the economic fundamental especially the sector related of the fund being invested.
If you feel the economic outlook is good and confident with the fund future performance, it may time to buy extra units or average up. If the fund down in price but if you feel it is just temporary you might buy another extra units or average down.

They might also time you need to lock profit or switching during bad times or just withdraw the investment if you lost confident of the fund.

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