QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 13 2011, 12:36 AM)
ya, locals better at the moments. but in future??Public Mutual v2, PB/Public series
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Aug 13 2011, 12:40 AM
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Aug 13 2011, 12:48 AM
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Aug 13 2011, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 13 2011, 12:48 AM) Bro - no point getting angry over an investment, if it's not performing, cut loss.BTW, my friend's wife who went in into PCSF early 2008 (as in 1st quarter or so), and kept on doing TwinVest (DCA+VCA) until now - she's making profits leh. So.. er.. it's not just the fund selection which is important, it's also one's entry & exit plans BTW, anyone here lost lots on PFEPRF? That one also made good $ for my sis & i - both on TwinVest AND Trend-based Entry & Exit rules. Just making a point that one can "nearly" make good returns if one has a plan, not just selecting a fund and "let it run". This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Aug 13 2011, 12:58 AM |
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Aug 13 2011, 02:18 AM
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Aug 12 2011, 07:26 PM) maybe he want to top up on his investment, you as a jointholder need to sign it too ... p/s; but top up not need joint-holder to sign, might be repurchase QUOTE(monsta2011 @ Aug 12 2011, 07:43 PM) Or... judging from what his father said, he wants to withdraw all the fund immediately cos he thinks Wall Street is going to hit another bottom. UPDATE: He actually said that. I received the form this evening. A request for switching form. Me as the 1st holder and my mom as joint holder. From what stated in the form, he want to switch my account to Public Islamic Strategic Bond Fund. That's it. I just need to sign and re-post to him. I'm worried because the amounts invested in my PM account is taken from my ASB. Bad thoughts kept running across my mind now. But I guess for now, I have to trust him since I have zero knowledge on PM. Do I really need to worry that much? |
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Aug 13 2011, 02:44 AM
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Public Dividend select fund , also making loss.
Bought around RM 0.31 (Average cost = RM 0.32 if include management fee) , now RM 0.27 |
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Aug 13 2011, 03:52 AM
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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 13 2011, 12:23 AM) small cap just reopen back... time to concider, high risk come with high returns. dont buy a fund which giving dividedns very near. ur money need to work for u to give dividedsn. tax on dividend only apply if we take it out right?if u buy units very near, before ur money work for u, u need to pay some taxx from ur money. gross dividedns - tax = net dividedns. if we just reinvest, then not need to worry about tax. when we need the money, just repurchase, then we don't need to pay tax a single cent. QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 13 2011, 12:26 AM) different from what I know. |
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Aug 13 2011, 04:08 AM
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QUOTE(cloud999 @ Aug 13 2011, 02:18 AM) UPDATE: I think you worried too much He actually said that. I received the form this evening. A request for switching form. Me as the 1st holder and my mom as joint holder. From what stated in the form, he want to switch my account to Public Islamic Strategic Bond Fund. That's it. I just need to sign and re-post to him. I'm worried because the amounts invested in my PM account is taken from my ASB. Bad thoughts kept running across my mind now. But I guess for now, I have to trust him since I have zero knowledge on PM. Do I really need to worry that much? Its good that somebody is monitoring your account. Your dad apply his exit rules, cut loss, switch to bond. By the time the form back to him, he might already change his mind |
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Aug 13 2011, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 13 2011, 12:57 AM) Bro - no point getting angry over an investment, if it's not performing, cut loss. May i know what is Twinvest DCA+VCA?? Thanks.BTW, my friend's wife who went in into PCSF early 2008 (as in 1st quarter or so), and kept on doing TwinVest (DCA+VCA) until now - she's making profits leh. So.. er.. it's not just the fund selection which is important, it's also one's entry & exit plans BTW, anyone here lost lots on PFEPRF? That one also made good $ for my sis & i - both on TwinVest AND Trend-based Entry & Exit rules. Just making a point that one can "nearly" make good returns if one has a plan, not just selecting a fund and "let it run". |
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Aug 13 2011, 09:51 AM
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after i sold all my fund, it is still active when i check as well...weird huh...
QUOTE(koinibler @ Aug 13 2011, 03:52 AM) |
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Aug 13 2011, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 13 2011, 12:57 AM) Bro - no point getting angry over an investment, if it's not performing, cut loss. You might eek out some profits from averaging down, but overall most of PM non Malaysian funds is performing below benchmark. You get better performance form other oversea based funds..... BTW, my friend's wife who went in into PCSF early 2008 (as in 1st quarter or so), and kept on doing TwinVest (DCA+VCA) until now - she's making profits leh. So.. er.. it's not just the fund selection which is important, it's also one's entry & exit plans |
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Aug 13 2011, 10:22 AM
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Aug 13 2011, 10:23 AM
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I just switched out from PCSF to PSMALLCAP!
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Aug 13 2011, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 13 2011, 12:48 AM) cool, if NAV low for local funds, its a buying opportunity. UT buy cheap and sell high to make profits. educate urself how to buy cheap and sell high to make profits.i hv more 10 acc with local funds, just drop 6% only and im still holding withut switching. market looks recover back. u can follow Mr.wong style by applying his method to max ur returns. my cut/stop loss is 10% for switching. |
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Aug 13 2011, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(cloud999 @ Aug 13 2011, 02:18 AM) UPDATE: waht ur father is doing is for your own benefit, by managing the UT risk. i think u hv equity acc, so its good the switch to bond fund to safe ur money at the moment. when the market recover, can switch back to equity. He actually said that. I received the form this evening. A request for switching form. Me as the 1st holder and my mom as joint holder. From what stated in the form, he want to switch my account to Public Islamic Strategic Bond Fund. That's it. I just need to sign and re-post to him. I'm worried because the amounts invested in my PM account is taken from my ASB. Bad thoughts kept running across my mind now. But I guess for now, I have to trust him since I have zero knowledge on PM. Do I really need to worry that much? u shud happy/thank ur father become FM for u. |
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Aug 13 2011, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 13 2011, 02:44 AM) Public Dividend select fund , also making loss. bro, current market make all the fund drop. we cannot aspect any miracle. i have more 10 acc, all drops. also.Bought around RM 0.31 (Average cost = RM 0.32 if include management fee) , now RM 0.27 just don't panic. dividedns fund still give dividends if price drop. if u got money, just top up for cheaper price. it will rcover back to give u profits. u won't get this kind of opportunity always. some time only. my suggestion only. |
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Aug 13 2011, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Aug 13 2011, 03:52 AM) tax on dividend only apply if we take it out right? every dividends declare, it will be tax. waht u get actualy after the tax, take note this. u re-invest back ur dividedns which u get after the tax.if we just reinvest, then not need to worry about tax. when we need the money, just repurchase, then we don't need to pay tax a single cent. different from what I know. when u receive the dividens stsment, u will c how much deduct for tax. I repurchase all my smallcap units. after a few month i apply the new acc for small cap. i was told that the old smallcap acc still active and i just need to top up on it. if ur acc is empty, it will still active/dormant/inacctive acc for sometime before closed it. |
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Aug 13 2011, 11:17 AM
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Aug 13 2011, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 13 2011, 02:44 AM) Public Dividend select fund , also making loss. Because you bought it at peak pricesBought around RM 0.31 (Average cost = RM 0.32 if include management fee) , now RM 0.27 Added on August 13, 2011, 11:37 am QUOTE(kparam77 @ Aug 13 2011, 11:17 AM) Great move... I have also invested in PSMALLCAP after it has reopened recently... this fund has won many awards this yearThis post has been edited by echoesian: Aug 13 2011, 11:37 AM |
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Aug 13 2011, 02:16 PM
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Aug 13 2011, 02:26 PM
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My agent and his upline recommended to go into PAUEF and PNREF.
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