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 Public Mutual v2, PB/Public series

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gark
post Apr 15 2011, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Apr 14 2011, 10:21 PM)
Okay, okay!
It seem there's no easy answer for that.
Need to learn more.
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Go to MPH/Popular, find the book 'Random Walk down Wall Street', read, and then understand. You will find the answer.
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post Apr 15 2011, 01:05 PM

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Public Small Cap Fund open again, is it manage by the same fund manager? Is it the suitable time to invest now?
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post Apr 15 2011, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Apr 15 2011, 11:57 AM)
I see. Is it considered as a risky investment or a reliable investment?
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There is risk with any sort of investment, but it is reliable as the funds are professionally managed by fund managers.
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post Apr 16 2011, 02:27 PM

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post Apr 16 2011, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(l3g3nd1314 @ Apr 15 2011, 11:42 AM)
Just sign up with an agent, and minimum investment is RM1,000.

Based on past performance, the CAGR (Compounded Annual Growth Rate) for most local equities are above 5%.
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CAGR of 5%++ is way low which could only on par or even worse than EPF return!? For equities, you should aim for more than 8% to 9% to beat the benchmark KLCI index, otherwise you are getting low risk adjusted return which means it not worth the risk taking to get such a low return.
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QUOTE(l3g3nd1314 @ Apr 15 2011, 02:37 PM)
There is risk with any sort of investment, but it is reliable as the funds are professionally managed by fund managers.
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I would recommend this fund for those who does not have it, but start small e.g. RM1000. By looking at the current economy, DCA is the answer.
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post Apr 17 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Apr 16 2011, 02:39 PM)
CAGR of 5%++ is way low which could only on par or even worse than EPF return!? For equities, you should aim for more than 8% to 9% to beat the benchmark KLCI index, otherwise you are getting low risk adjusted return which means it not worth the risk taking to get such a low return.
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5% is a safe rate of quoting CAGR, but top performing funds in Public Mutual are around the range of 10~15% CAGR wink.gif
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post Apr 17 2011, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(l3g3nd1314 @ Apr 17 2011, 01:11 AM)
5% is a safe rate of quoting CAGR, but top performing funds in Public Mutual are around the range of 10~15% CAGR  wink.gif
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Do not turn away to just mention about the top performing funds in Public Mutual by covering the fact that it does consist of inferior funds. Since Public Mutual has alot of funds, it could have few well performed funds, but after adding all those average or underpeformed funds, it could just achieve as what you mentioned a 5% CAGR only (in Global Investment Performance Standard, we called it as a composite return).

Please be more objective when talking about the fund returns of a fund management company instead of doing marketing pitch by highlighting only the top performance funds.

This post has been edited by kinwing: Apr 17 2011, 01:04 PM
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post Apr 17 2011, 01:57 PM

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5%+15% = 20%....average 10%...
they're being careful...
with EPF you get 5% but that's it...
funds like these...it could go up and down...
but 5% is historically its lowest so far....biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Apr 17 2011, 01:01 PM)
Do not turn away to just mention about the top performing funds in Public Mutual by covering the fact that it does consist of inferior funds. Since Public Mutual has alot of funds, it could have few well performed funds, but after adding all those average or underpeformed funds, it could just achieve as what you mentioned a 5% CAGR only (in Global Investment Performance Standard, we called it as a composite return).

Please be more objective when talking about the fund returns of a fund management company instead of doing marketing pitch by highlighting only the top performance funds.
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There are indeed underperforming funds, but most of them are newly launched funds which are not able to perform now, but that doesn't strike out the possibility of them performing in the near future. A good example for this scenario is Public SmallCap Fund.

And by the way, the first thing investors usually ask will be which are the performing funds, and as an unit trust consultant, my job is to highlight those top performing funds to them.

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post Apr 18 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(l3g3nd1314 @ Apr 18 2011, 01:50 AM)
There are indeed underperforming funds, but most of them are newly launched funds which are not able to perform now, but that doesn't strike out the possibility of them performing in the near future. A good example for this scenario is Public SmallCap Fund.

And by the way, the first thing investors usually ask will be which are the performing funds, and as an unit trust consultant, my job is to highlight those top performing funds to them.
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As Public SmallCap Fund is reopen again, is open until when or target collected amount of fund? Is it eligible for EPF investment? smile.gif
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QUOTE(l3g3nd1314 @ Apr 18 2011, 12:50 AM)
There are indeed underperforming funds, but most of them are newly launched funds which are not able to perform now, but that doesn't strike out the possibility of them performing in the near future. A good example for this scenario is Public SmallCap Fund.

And by the way, the first thing investors usually ask will be which are the performing funds, and as an unit trust consultant, my job is to highlight those top performing funds to them.
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With due respect, your are salesman to highlight top performing funds only and not entitle to be called as 'consultant'. As a qualified consultant, you should guide the investors to evaluate their risk tolerance against the funds’ return. By only highlighting the top performance funds, then what’s the point to have other average or non-performing funds? Public Mutual should then close all other average or non-performing funds and leave the only most performing fund for the investors to choose.

This post has been edited by kinwing: Apr 18 2011, 11:40 AM
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post Apr 18 2011, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(l3g3nd1314 @ Apr 18 2011, 12:50 AM)
There are indeed underperforming funds, but most of them are newly launched funds which are not able to perform now, but that doesn't strike out the possibility of them performing in the near future. A good example for this scenario is Public SmallCap Fund.

And by the way, the first thing investors usually ask will be which are the performing funds, and as an unit trust consultant, my job is to highlight those top performing funds to them.
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He is only giving an example. You have your point Mr. kinwing . You don't have to be so mean.

This post has been edited by Loonie2: Apr 18 2011, 12:52 PM
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post Apr 18 2011, 05:23 PM

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Guys, what is PB Fixed Income fund?
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post Apr 18 2011, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(seiken @ Apr 18 2011, 05:23 PM)
Guys, what is PB Fixed Income fund?
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A fund which invest in Malaysian Medium Term A-AAA Corporate bonds. wink.gif
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post Apr 18 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 18 2011, 05:37 PM)
A fund which invest in Malaysian Medium Term A-AAA Corporate bonds.  wink.gif
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Is it worth investing? Low-risk type right?
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post Apr 18 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(seiken @ Apr 18 2011, 05:55 PM)
Is it worth investing? Low-risk type right?
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Depends on your risk factor. On long term average the yearly profits is about 6%-7%. But there are times which the fund dropped to 5%-10% loss. Your choice. wink.gif

I would say lower risk than equity funds, but there is still risk unlike FD which have zero risk. nod.gif One of the cheapest bond funds out there (in term of management fees). icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by gark: Apr 18 2011, 06:05 PM
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post Apr 18 2011, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(seiken @ Apr 18 2011, 05:55 PM)
Is it worth investing? Low-risk type right?
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yeap low risk, consistent return. lipper 5 rating. same goes to PBOND, PIBOND, PBIBF (better performing bonds)

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post Apr 20 2011, 08:31 AM

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Is Public SmallCap officially re-open? How come no announcement yet - or did I missed anything?
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post Apr 20 2011, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(kenjen @ Apr 20 2011, 08:31 AM)
Is Public SmallCap officially re-open? How come no announcement yet - or did I missed anything?
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I am not sure if they open officially or not. I was told by a forumer here & was confirmed later on by my agent. Are you an agent yourself? If yes u should receive email.

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