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faceless
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Aug 20 2010, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Aug 18 2010, 05:58 PM) should move only in auspicious hour of the day. Make sure non of the animal signs of the people staying in the new house are conflicted. Do space clearing before moving in. Hang red cloth on the door. Move in must boil water from the kitchen and drink to signify moving in. Better if can cook and have dinner also to signify moving in. Turn on all the lights and fans. Create lots of YANG energy. To let the HOUSE know the OWNER is moving in. Some cosmic divine intervention receiver located in everywhere and nowhere will pickup this signal and patch you accordingly.Or scrap all the above and just bloody move in. Your choice depending you believe or not. Most people will do the former because "nothing to lose" and for the peace of mind. There is something to lose. The cosmic divine intervention receiver patch you up to negative thingy.
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k0k0puff
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Aug 20 2010, 03:27 PM
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law of the world is everything we see, feel and some you do not like wind, flow of water, Ray of sun, electromagnetic waves, and much more. Feng Shui is playing around it, the world is filled with electromagnetic waves, and a human also possess their own electromagnetic waves. It is either the external wave oppose, go along or neutral to a person's electromagnetic waves. So sometimes people moves bed around because you as the owner most probably sleep there, if the waves is opposing them, then he will not sleep well, affecting him. Feng shui do not oppose these energies, but avoid or minimise the unpleasant energy and enhance and use the good ones. Same applies to other energies.
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abubin
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Aug 20 2010, 04:24 PM
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that is not LAW of the world. It's just elements that exist in the world.
So you are saying fengshuil play with elements of the world like fire, earth, water, energy and so on.
Any that will change one's health, wealth and love?
Bringing that moving house example here. Which part of the waves are affected when people are moving into a house? Basic fengshui masters will say check your "8 pillars" (ba zi) or check your animal signs. Care to explain where the electromagnetic wave comes into play? If those waves are bad during moving in for let's say the father only, then the bad waves linger around father for the rest of his life in that house? Changing the furniture can block the bad wave? Perhaps some part of the house, only good waves will go. Thus father sit in that corner will be safe of back ache?
BTW, if Lillian Too's fengshui is crap then whose is not crap? Joey Yap? Or some hongkong/china fengshui master living in an apartment or wooden house?
This post has been edited by abubin: Aug 20 2010, 04:29 PM
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k0k0puff
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Aug 22 2010, 12:05 PM
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Just talk about the bed, you sleep there, if the elements is against you, like you're a very "heaty" person and the spot you're sleeping is hot, then you will not get a good night sleep. One day is fine, but long term will kill your health. Your health goes down, then there goes your mind, you can't think properly, then how do you even work properly. No Health, No Wealth.
Added on August 22, 2010, 12:10 pmEveryone has electromagnetic waves around us, you do know how magnet works? if it is the same pole at the same strength will cancel out eat other's magnetism, a person's electromagnetic waves is being opposed by an external one, it cancels out or even disrupt the flow, then he will not be functioning 100% or even not functioning at all. Long term exposure of it will have a serious effect on his health. If you look like a dead dog, who will find you interesting, there goes your love life.
This post has been edited by k0k0puff: Aug 22 2010, 12:10 PM
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robertngo
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Aug 22 2010, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(k0k0puff @ Aug 22 2010, 12:05 PM) Just talk about the bed, you sleep there, if the elements is against you, like you're a very "heaty" person and the spot you're sleeping is hot, then you will not get a good night sleep. One day is fine, but long term will kill your health. Your health goes down, then there goes your mind, you can't think properly, then how do you even work properly. No Health, No Wealth. Added on August 22, 2010, 12:10 pmEveryone has electromagnetic waves around us, you do know how magnet works? if it is the same pole at the same strength will cancel out eat other's magnetism, a person's electromagnetic waves is being opposed by an external one, it cancels out or even disrupt the flow, then he will not be functioning 100% or even not functioning at all. Long term exposure of it will have a serious effect on his health. If you look like a dead dog, who will find you interesting, there goes your love life. i dont understand how would the feng shui master detect all the different electromagnetic waves and counter their effect on the human body. if he is doing that he will take quite a bit of time for the consultation.so many things in this world are electromagnetic waves, light, radio, cell phone, tv broadcast, x rays, gamma rays, ,...etc what are the tools they use to measure all these at the house?
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 23 2010, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(k0k0puff @ Aug 20 2010, 11:04 AM) Feng Shui is actually playing around with the law of the world or nature, everyone has to play by their rules, you can't change the rules, but you can play around it. That's where feng shui comes in. ps. Lilian Too crap is bullshit Shouldn't it be going along with the flow, or nullify it? Not playing it around.
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k0k0puff
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Aug 23 2010, 11:04 AM
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For the detection part, i have no idea, maybe something to do with the compass thingy. The waves are everywhere, but actually every energy has an effect on humans, it is just the matter of knowing it and using it.
Going along, nulify, it is kinda like playing around with the forces, you use it depending on the guy. It is like playing around with the forces
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eXPeri3nc3
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Aug 23 2010, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(k0k0puff @ Aug 23 2010, 11:04 AM) For the detection part, i have no idea, maybe something to do with the compass thingy. The waves are everywhere, but actually every energy has an effect on humans, it is just the matter of knowing it and using it. Going along, nulify, it is kinda like playing around with the forces, you use it depending on the guy. It is like playing around with the forces To the best of my understanding the 'lo kang' (compass) is not used to detect anything in regards to wavelenghts, but to pinpoint locations to the absolute degree. I'm still not convinced that the play word is a word to be used in this context but oh well.
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k0k0puff
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Aug 24 2010, 11:27 AM
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well, everyone has different point of views to things, i respect yours. i just like the word "play"
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abubin
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Aug 25 2010, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(k0k0puff @ Aug 22 2010, 12:05 PM) Just talk about the bed, you sleep there, if the elements is against you, like you're a very "heaty" person and the spot you're sleeping is hot, then you will not get a good night sleep. One day is fine, but long term will kill your health. Your health goes down, then there goes your mind, you can't think properly, then how do you even work properly. No Health, No Wealth. Added on August 22, 2010, 12:10 pmEveryone has electromagnetic waves around us, you do know how magnet works? if it is the same pole at the same strength will cancel out eat other's magnetism, a person's electromagnetic waves is being opposed by an external one, it cancels out or even disrupt the flow, then he will not be functioning 100% or even not functioning at all. Long term exposure of it will have a serious effect on his health. If you look like a dead dog, who will find you interesting, there goes your love life. Hot? Heat? Put aircond can solve the problem? Not having good night sleep of course means health issues will arise. Isn't that common sense? What does it has to do with fengshui? Since when fengshui is a logical thought of things? You look like dead dog means no love life? Isn't that a common sense? Even an uncle on the street who doesn't know about fengshui know that. Since when does a person have magnetism? How to measure that? There are no fengshui that talks about a person and it's magnetism. Fengshui is about the flow of chi and 7 chakras of a person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra
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k0k0puff
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Aug 25 2010, 04:47 PM
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Fengshui can be very basic, but it is people who do not understand it mystify it. The chi is actually energies, when the energy is against your 5 elements, it will be called Sha. Lets screw heat, people say that living facing the junction is bad, because the wind is coming straight and fast to the house and it can be very bad for the body, and people call it Sha because it is energies damaging to the body.
For your information, there are 2 types of fengshui, common man fengshui and the emperor's fengshui. Common man's one is very basic
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abubin
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Aug 25 2010, 06:35 PM
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so people living in junction will get bad luck all the time unless the block the wind or something?
What if someone who doesn't believe in junction is staying there? Will the bad luck apply to him even if he is black or hispanic? If so bad luck, what happens to existing people staying in junctions?
Never heard of such thing as common man or emperor fengshui...care to elaborate?
Okay then, since fengshui is so simple, give me a tip that will work. Please not those common sense tips of making yourself look good to get love and all.
This post has been edited by abubin: Aug 25 2010, 06:41 PM
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robertngo
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Aug 25 2010, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(k0k0puff @ Aug 25 2010, 04:47 PM) Fengshui can be very basic, but it is people who do not understand it mystify it. The chi is actually energies, when the energy is against your 5 elements, it will be called Sha. Lets screw heat, people say that living facing the junction is bad, because the wind is coming straight and fast to the house and it can be very bad for the body, and people call it Sha because it is energies damaging to the body. For your information, there are 2 types of fengshui, common man fengshui and the emperor's fengshui. Common man's one is very basic a lot of people pay top dollar for beach front house with the wind from the sea blowing right toward them, so those property are bad feng shui?
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k0k0puff
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Aug 26 2010, 12:05 PM
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Fengshui can be very eleborate and deep, the previous examples is juz some simple examples. The differents between the 2 fengshuis is:
Common man fengshui is just moving the architecture of the house and furniture to maximise the energy to your advantage.
Emporer's fengshui is where all the mojos and magical thingamagic comes in. Every time you change an emporer or even a new dynasty, every emporer has their own element make ups, so the whole forbiden city has to be placed to his own advantage, and it is the palace, your not hacking this and that, so the Fenshui Masters instead of changing the furnitures and house design phsycally, they change it spiritually or in another realm or something. (only very few people has thing power i guess) This is able to change the whole fengshui without disturbing the physical structure of everything.
This is just some minor explanation of the two
Added on August 26, 2010, 12:10 pmIt is hard to say a place, because it has to see the make up of every house, you'll be surprised sometimes even the neighbour's house can be a completely different make up. Some times you do not generalise everything , Wind is bad so avoid wind. That is just one of the factors.
This post has been edited by k0k0puff: Aug 26 2010, 12:10 PM
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robertngo
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Aug 26 2010, 03:37 PM
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abubin
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Aug 26 2010, 05:29 PM
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As usual...things can be simple and complicated at the same time. I tell you do this and when it doesn't work, there are 1001 reasons why it work for your neigbour but not you. Same thing with religion. Same type of mumbo jumbo that cannot be proven.
If china's emperor is so great as able to change their fengshui or spiritual power then they wouldn't have fallen and conquered by the british and japanese. I am sure you can come up with another explanation for this where there is absolutely no way to proof it.
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rocket_jet
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Aug 26 2010, 08:50 PM
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Wind is good
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k0k0puff
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Aug 27 2010, 10:51 AM
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There are many types of wind, the ones that are around nature like the forest or sea should be fine.
Even if it is the Emperor's feng shui, it wont be changing mountains or control lighting or something epic like that, it aint magic. Many people will not see the effect with the naked eye, the effects can be very subtle. Even if someone is using it, no one will know. (but it usually can be detected by other fengshui masters)
Like you said, everyone has their own belief, mojos like fengshui is very subjective to people, so the British may not feel comfortable using it, but who knows, no one ever said that they ain't using it.
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robertngo
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Aug 27 2010, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(k0k0puff @ Aug 27 2010, 10:51 AM) There are many types of wind, the ones that are around nature like the forest or sea should be fine. Even if it is the Emperor's feng shui, it wont be changing mountains or control lighting or something epic like that, it aint magic. Many people will not see the effect with the naked eye, the effects can be very subtle. Even if someone is using it, no one will know. (but it usually can be detected by other fengshui masters) Like you said, everyone has their own belief, mojos like fengshui is very subjective to people, so the British may not feel comfortable using it, but who knows, no one ever said that they ain't using it. one problem i see is feng shui is base on the five element , which we know are not the real element of the natural world. how can the knowledge that base on the wrong concept can be effective.
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k0k0puff
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Aug 28 2010, 10:29 AM
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The 5 elements is metal, wood, water, fire and earth. How can these not be the elements that made the world. EARTH is land for life to grow, METALl are the nutrient for the for the soil, WATER is for growing the life, WOOD represent the plants (also so mean the fertility), FIRE represent the sun or climate. How can you say these are not the elements of the world. The 5 elements is the elements for making the world and it also can represent the person's life by using nature and paring them with the 12 zodiac animals.
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