In this thread, we all hate SG le lol.... plz consider edifier

If your speaker got humming plz check all your cable connected properly or not, if you got spare speaker, try to check if the humming is come from your pc or maybe your house power is dirty and need to use power conditioner like belkin.

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Added on January 26, 2010, 11:55 amSpeakers can be a long term investment if you buy the good model ;P

This post has been edited by dlyz: Jan 26 2010, 11:55 AM

You get what you pay for, right ?

ya but also remember, sometimes cheap doesnt mean bad, there are gems/bargains out there....

Just took the photo of M1310 power pack and the Evo3's plastic sat cover. The material look like recycle plastic, very low quality compare to Edifier Sat.
Can anyone tell whether the M1310 power pack enough to drive the M1310's 28w rms? does it give any fake info?






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is it 12V X 2 - 1.25A?

Yes, bro terradrive

Wow, I just replaced my EVO3 with Edifier C3 and I saw this topic.
Will dismantle mine too and take some shots when I'm free.

1.2V x 2 ~ 1.25A means : 2 rails of 12V supplying 1.25A each. so total would be ~ 30W.

Why Edifier? (mandarin version, pls use Google translator translate it)

Why Edifier?

wahlao. dude./.
don't advertise here mah..
later sonic gear member hates u.
condam u kao kao

lol agree

didnt have time to read through all the posts.

But to answer TS observation - that is a capacitance driver, not an inductance driver.

ITs not uncommon for tweeters to be based on capacitance as it can be more efficient.

If you really suspect its fake or not working, try to measure the capacitance at the tweeter leads with a multimeter.

The reason you may not hear anything from it doesnt have to be that its fake, several valid reasons below:
1. Your sound source (file or signal, including DAC/ Soundcard) does not have high freq. sound. YOu can check by trying a sine wave generator at 10kHz and above.
2. That tweeter / driver itself is not very efficient or sensitive.

I dont work for any multimedia speaker company.

In the end you get what you pay for.

Bro lee82gx,

Thanks for the info.

Yes, SG did provide a tweeter, a so called mosquito repellent tweeter.

Why i said that, i did compare side by side with another tweeter - same sound, same volume level and same player and same amp, the result i get is the sound produce by SG tweeter is very low until i need to put the SG tweeter close to my ear only i can hear it but the another tweeter doesn't need that. why?

Another things i discover is beside the low quality tweeter, the component they used to built the EVO3 is damn low grade and this brand is trying to cheat the users, that y i decided to create this topic to disclose their trick. I just don't want other forumer make the same mistakes like me, attract by the look and fooled by them.

The reason i create this topic is for educate purpose, if u guy don't like it i can close this topic.

Some of the facts i give might not correct cause i m still new to the speaker.

U can also provide info if u discover any brand or any things giving fake info, this thread is not anti SG, this thread is for discover the brand giving fake info and deceive people.

I will take a video and show u guy about the comparison later when i free.


I dont work for any multimedia speaker company too, i used to be a fan of SG.



This post has been edited by 7Eleven: Jan 28 2010, 10:03 AM

No, don't close the topic, this thread is good

So, you found out that there is indeed a real tweeter and not a fake one.

As for the sensitivity of the tweeter, you need to listen to the overall spectrum of sound, as speakers (woofers + midrange + tweeters) are design to be in combination to produce a flat response. This fact, even ah beng or ah seng speaker company knows.

So, if you listen from your normal position and find that the speaker does not produce as much high range as you'd like, then next is to see whether you are the type likes bright highs or not. If not, then only check the response of the whole speaker, and maybe in that case it could be that the speaker you are auditioning is performing poorly in high range.

Its also good you do a blind test from normal listening position to audition both speakers and see which one you still prefer.

Sometimes, the mid range driver is good enough to cover even the high frequencies, that the tweeter is cross-overed only to produce small amount of pressure at certain cross points, which makes it difficult for you to hear from the tweeter even at close range.

I don't support any brand in particular, but if you are smart enough to do listening tests / auditions, I'm sure you'd bought a set of speakers that suit your budget vs performance. If you blindly bought a product due to "support" then caveat emptor.

FYI, my edifier C2 performs well for my judgement, but I'm also quite sure the tweeter is very low response.

Every manufacturer has its right to use 'cheap' material, to maximize profit. As long as its reliable and performs to your listening needs, why check each component inside?

Tweeter is made to output high frequencies. If the tweeter have super low output (as mosquito's noise), then it doesn't server any purpose at all, other than to make the customer think "oh it's 3 way tweeter, midrange, subwoofer speaker so it should be nice". When you look at that viewpoint, we have a serious problem here especially as potential customers.

Wah, just finished reading all the post.

I learned to never trusted any of these 'ah beng' speakers.
Look at them displaying their wares in PC Fair pun tau: sure phailz.

Loud and distortion saja ada. Might as well use these telur speakers.



They are actually surprisingly loud for their size (which is no bigger than a large egg).

or get an x-mini ii

the main purpose of this tread. is some how notify user to be aware of what they are buying.
and the fact that they use a cheapo tweeter is seriously cheating.

as for ur comment. i don't see some how it's helping, except you are trying to deviating the focus of this thread.
performing a capacitance measurement on tweeter? blind test? measuring the requencies respond of the speaker? do you expect a normal user to perform all that before they buying one speaker? else anythings happen ,then the representative can blame back customer that they didn't perform the required test.. and it's their own fault of buying blindly? or they pay for what they get? because of cheap price giving an excuse of the company to use jerky parts??

then might as well ask all ppl to beware to eat outside.. paying RM 4.50 for mee goreng,, they shall have to leanr all ingredient that used in the mee goreng.. where it comes from. got halal or not.. and prepare to bring some poison detection kits so they can test the food got poison or not..
else they kena food poisoning. the tauke can always blame.. u shall know that RM 4.50 u pay for what u get..lol

i mean.. doing a blind test on a RM 150 multimedia speaker .. what kind of results you are going to obtain??? if their ear is so sensitive and they are so experience to do blind test. they don't even buy a multimedia speaker instead of a proper hifi. normal user just barely depend on the outlook, and the advertisement / spec published by the company.. no matter what kind of excuse given. they do play a fool with the spec.

as performing measurement to the frequencies respond of the speaker? i myself own a not bad entry level hifi that cost almost RM 20K currently. i don't even have a proper decible meter. because it's too damn expensive and i cannot afford a good one for use of one time only. if user get a cheap one to measure. the speaker company might still able to argue saying that the decible meter is not accurate.. no calibration ..measurement taken in user house which has bad acoustic properties.. like damping of high frequencies is too much.. not taking measurement in silence room.. WHAT EVER REASON oso can give..


and midrange that is good enough to cover higher frequencies? that's ridiculos that it will apper on a multimedia speaker.
a mid that is good enough to cover high frequencies anytime will cost RM 2K per PCS. take example of a compression tweeter. second hand of cheapest altec lansing (hifi, not multimedia) driver, anytime u throw out at RM 1.8K anytime ppl will grab it. do u think it will appear on a sonic gear that they cut cost so much even on the PCB? so far the cheapest mid that can cover high is used on AEGO M. and that's about RM 700 retail price.



in respond to the underlined parts of ur comment : there's no point critics back the user that they are smarts or not.. so do you mean that 7Eleven who bought a sonic gear without test and performing measurement of frequencies respond is not smart? .. user bought it. and found it's unfair. posted it in forum. i found there's nothings wrong. . anyway i believe customer who was dissapointed with it will learn a lesson them self. and be more careful the next time they purchase a speaker.

this thread is good. no matter what reason a sonic gear give... they still using bad parts inside.
i personally found this tread is very good. while 7Eleven did a good job of comparing different brand speaker internal at the same price range.
this can be a very useful future reference for customer who don't have a chance of buying and ripping them off before knowing what they are buying.

keep up the good work 7Eleven...

This post has been edited by PcWork: Jan 28 2010, 06:45 PM

Bro PcWork,

Thanks for back me up.
For me, if the company really care about their brand they shud not do what Sonic Gear did
This kind of company is really unethical and just think how to cheat customer and earn as much as they can.
A ethical company will use their time to think how to improve the quality, only company they OEM fr other factory got too much time to think how to cheat their company and squeeze their customer kaw kaw

This post has been edited by 7Eleven: Jan 28 2010, 08:18 PM