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TSgod2077
post Jan 15 2010, 10:06 PM, updated 16y ago

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Is it a good choice to study from CFAB -> ICAEW or i should study CAT -> ACCA?
ICAEW only provided in Sunway college.
who have interest to take these courses in sunway?

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post Jan 15 2010, 10:22 PM

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i think i am going to CAT course in sunway in March =)

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post Jan 16 2010, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(god2077 @ Jan 15 2010, 10:06 PM)
Is it a good choice to study from CFAB -> ICAEW or i should study CAT -> ACCA?
ICAEW only provided in Sunway college.
who have interest to take these courses in sunway?
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Sunway is pushing CFAB strongly but it may not be the right choice. Do you know after studying for one year +, you have to begin working already? ACCA is already tough, and ICAEW is much tougher, are you ready to be bond to your training contract for FIVE years? If you fail midway you end up with NO qualification!

Working and studying is not easy, you have deadlines on both side, deadline to study for your exam as well as deadline for your job.

I would suggest to do CAT, then ACCA, and then continue with ICAEW (You get alot of exemptions with ACCA qualifications).

I had this dilemma earlier last year when I was split whether to take up ICAEW after CAT (could apply to certain firms), but eventually I decided against it.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=908974

Even doing CAT and then move on to ACCA, that would make you just 20 years old in your final year. Many students do not have the maturity to answers most of the question and when you are in the final stage, you can really abandon your textbook, it's all very practical, and ICAEW is much more practical in terms of the questions asked. Do you have the maturity?

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post Jan 16 2010, 03:39 PM

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well, if you prefer to study a lot and learn from books only, CAT and ACCA would be good. Offers very good theory and technical knowledge.

if you prefer to learn from experience, then go for CFAB and ICAEW. and the full time learning, to be exact, is only 2 years and 3 months(inclusive of internship duration when doing CFAB) out of 5 years and 6 months course
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post Jan 16 2010, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(animangacraze @ Jan 16 2010, 03:39 PM)
well, if you prefer to study a lot and learn from books only, CAT and ACCA would be good. Offers very good theory and technical knowledge.

if you prefer to learn from experience, then go for CFAB and ICAEW. and the full time learning, to be exact, is only 2 years and 3 months(inclusive of internship duration when doing CFAB) out of 5 years and 6 months course
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I beg to differ, studying alot form books won't take you far in ACCA, maybe just the first few papers only. If you are really ambitious and committed, then by all means pursue CFAB and ICAEW, but let me remind you, life will be hell for the next few years. Just the other day, a friend of mine who is pursuing ICAEW called me to ask about some IT question, it was 12.30a.m. and she was still in the office, yet she's only 19.
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post Jan 16 2010, 07:46 PM

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I apologize for my misstatement then. Because that was the common perception I had. Thanks for clearing that up too.

But I agree with your last part, the one about life being hell, because it should be anticipated that entering ICAEW course is like "signing a willing-to-suffer contract".
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QUOTE(animangacraze @ Jan 16 2010, 07:46 PM)
I apologize for my misstatement then. Because that was the common perception I had. Thanks for clearing that up too.

But I agree with your last part, the one about life being hell, because it should be anticipated that entering ICAEW course is like "signing a willing-to-suffer contract".
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Audit firms love to recruit young people too

1) Labour secured for the next 5 years - contract. We all know how high the labour turnover is in 5 years.
2) Young people, can handle more stress, hence can give more works sweat.gif
3) Cheap lo tongue.gif
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post Jan 16 2010, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(animangacraze @ Jan 16 2010, 07:46 PM)
I apologize for my misstatement then. Because that was the common perception I had. Thanks for clearing that up too.

But I agree with your last part, the one about life being hell, because it should be anticipated that entering ICAEW course is like "signing a willing-to-suffer contract".
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I just signed the willing to suffer contract. biggrin.gif no turning back now
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QUOTE(BlueSpark @ Jan 16 2010, 09:33 PM)
I just signed the willing to suffer contract.  biggrin.gif  no turning back now
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Nice, which firm? smile.gif
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post Jan 17 2010, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(karhoe @ Jan 17 2010, 02:06 PM)
Nice, which firm?  smile.gif
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I mean I just enrolled to study CFAB. Signing in 1.5 years time
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post Jan 18 2010, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(BlueSpark @ Jan 17 2010, 05:44 PM)
I mean I just enrolled to study CFAB. Signing in 1.5 years time
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so you are studying in sunway now? jan intake?


Added on January 18, 2010, 12:13 am
QUOTE(animangacraze @ Jan 16 2010, 07:46 PM)
I apologize for my misstatement then. Because that was the common perception I had. Thanks for clearing that up too.

But I agree with your last part, the one about life being hell, because it should be anticipated that entering ICAEW course is like "signing a willing-to-suffer contract".
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so you mean ACCA wont suffer that much compared with ICAEW?
Is that true?

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post Jan 18 2010, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(god2077 @ Jan 18 2010, 12:07 AM)
so you are studying in sunway now? jan intake?


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so you mean ACCA wont suffer that much compared with ICAEW?
Is that true?
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ACCA won't suffer so much because you are not working at the same time, unless you opt to.

But then, I spoke to my lecturer today who said that ICAEW students are given preferred treatment in some audit firm (which I won't name here obviously) like how they are given breaks and leaves without hesitation. So somehow ACCA affiliates do hate them a little tongue.gif
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QUOTE(god2077 @ Jan 18 2010, 12:07 AM)
so you are studying in sunway now? jan intake?


Added on January 18, 2010, 12:13 am

so you mean ACCA wont suffer that much compared with ICAEW?
Is that true?
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yea
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post Jan 18 2010, 01:55 PM

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start with a degree first =)
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post Jan 20 2010, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Haoshoku @ Jan 18 2010, 01:55 PM)
start with a degree first =)
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actually ACCA have degree also. now i know it.
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post Jan 20 2010, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(BlueSpark @ Jan 17 2010, 05:44 PM)
I mean I just enrolled to study CFAB. Signing in 1.5 years time
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eh, don't forget about your internship la.. and its 2.5 years time la, budak... XD.. clearly differentiate the internship and work-training, its important for you to make it clear la, before you are suddenly asked to choose and ATE/ATO tongue.gif


god2077, if in the future, you like want to work before really completing everything, the workload for ACCA is 100% whereas ICAEW is about 80% to 90%. These are the infos I got from lecturer la. So, it is sort of similar with what karhoe said just now. But of course, some firms might be impartial to any qualificaions.

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post Jan 20 2010, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(animangacraze @ Jan 20 2010, 07:55 PM)
eh, don't forget about your internship la.. and its 2.5 years time la, budak... XD.. clearly differentiate the internship and work-training, its important for you to make it clear la, before you are suddenly asked to choose and ATE/ATO tongue.gif
god2077, if in the future, you like want to work before really completing everything, the workload for ACCA is 100% whereas ICAEW is about 80% to 90%. These are the infos I got from lecturer la. So, it is sort of similar with what karhoe said just now. But of course, some firms might be impartial to any qualificaions.
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dun worry. i plan to study ICAEW after ACCA, ICAEW is in more demand.
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post May 24 2010, 03:09 AM

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Guys,

is it possible if i want to pursue ICAEW overseas (including working there for the Authorized Training Employers) ?

I was looking for scholarship for this on the net, but couldn't seems to find any.
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post May 24 2010, 09:37 PM

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Eventhough I am eligible to take CFAB > ICAEW , but I decided not to for various reasons. Taking CFAB>ICAEW would be like removing one large part of your life, your college/university life, imagine working at such a young age, I know its good for your future, but you have your entire lifetime to work.

So, I may go for ICAEW only after ACCA, for me, having ACCA is already an accomplishment, its the work experience that counts wink.gif

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post May 26 2010, 10:39 AM

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it depends on what you want in life..

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