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TSsonyclie77
post Jan 13 2010, 11:59 PM, updated 16y ago

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I've downloaded the latest OS, and am very excited to upgrade my Storm 9500 to OS 5.0. So I installed the file, deleted the vendor.xml file, and clicked on loader.exe to initiate the upgrade. Alas, I was brought to a list of 3rd party apps which I've installed on my BlackBerry Storm 9500, with no further option to upgrade my Storm 9500's OS 4.7 to OS 5.0.

Being the one who does not give up, I searched high and low online for a solution, thinking to myself as to why others have succeeded in upgrading and are enjoying OS 5.0, whereas I'm stuck without a solution?

After 2 days, I came across this post by John Clark, of BlackBerryforums.com, and it details the exact same problem as I faced, and it seems I'm not alone! There's a lot of users out there who failed to upgrade their OS!

So I tried John's method, and voila! I'm enjoying v5.0.0.425 on my Storm 9500! So I thought I'd share this in this forum, seeing that the number of BlackBerry users have increased tremendously in the past couple of months! Just note that this method does not only apply to the Storm, but is a universal method for OS 4.6 and above, in which I've helped a friend who faced the same problem upgrading his Curve 8900 to OS 5!

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So, you downloaded the newest, latest and greatest OS for your BlackBerry and have followed all the instructions found here.

1. Download and install Desktop Manager.
2. Download and install the OS of your choice for your device.
3. Delete vendor.xml located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader.
4. Plug in BB and open Desktop Manager.

However, when you open Desktop Manager you get no prompt to update. When you open Application Loader your new OS is not listed!!

This has been plaguing people for the last few months. I've never experienced the issue because of the way I've loaded Desktop Manager but Vasco at Horizon did and he and I together figured this out. I believe we've found the issue and will explain how to fix here.

The problem lies in the new Desktop
Manager's automatic "Check for Updates" feature. This feature uses your internet connection to look for OS updates for your device from your carrier. When it does this it loads a second virtual vendor.xml file in the temp folder on your computer (Vista users look in C:\Users\Username\appdata\virtualstore.) So, even after you delete the normal one that is installed with the OS and Desktop Manager, the automatic "check for updates" feature loads another one based on the brand of device you've got plugged into the PC.

To prevent this from happening this you need to install Desktop Manager WITHOUT this Automatic Update service. Below are the steps to remove this service.

1. Go to Control Panel >Add/Remove Programs.
2. Click on "BlackBerry Desktop Software" and select "Change/Remove."
3. When prompted, hit "Next" and then you should get options for Modify, Repair, or Remove. Choose "Modify."
4. On DM 4.7 and higher, in the list of installed items, you should see "BlackBerry Automatic Update." Click the icon next to it and change it to "This feature will not be available." That should put an "X" next to "BlackBerry Automatic Update." If you are using DM 4.6 or lower and don't see this option in this list then just continue with the install and the installation will ask you a few screens later. A screen will be shown where you will be asked to check the boxes for:

A) "Start BlackBerry Desktop Manager automatically each time the computer starts."
B) "Create a shortcut for BlackBerry Desktop Manager on the Windows Desktop."
C) "Check for software updates."

Be sure number 3, "Check for software updates," is NOT checked.

5. Finish the installation.

(Note: If you're doing a fresh install of Desktop Manager, be sure and choose the "Custom" install button so that you get the prompt for what features you want installed. Otherwise all the features will be installed as normal and you'll likely run into this issue.)

Once that is complete, you'll need to go back and search your computer for vendor.xml. When you do the search, make sure you click on "Advanced Options" and make sure that you search Hidden files and folders. This is important as some operating systems create a virtual store in the temp folder that this vendor.xml file is located in. You will not find this particular vendor.xml if you don't have hidden files/folders selected for search. Once the hidden vendor.xml is deleted it won't come back if you've reinstalled Desktop Manager without the Automatic Update Feature enabled.

Now, make sure your OS is installed (you may need to install the OS again, if you actually remove Desktop Manager and then reinstall Desktop Manager again. Make sure that you delete the normal vendor.xml file LAST before updating the device.

Tip of the day: Desktop Manager is not even required for doing an OS upgrade. In the same folder as the vendor.xml file is a file called Loader.exe. Running that will run apploader without Desktop Manager. It still makes the full backup and restore, but without all the DM stuff running in the background. I use this for all my OS upgrades. Then later I connect to DM to start my BES activation.


Source: BlackBerryforums.com




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post Jan 14 2010, 11:37 AM

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Yes same here. Never liked to use DM.

Loader.exe is a more straightforward way as well.
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post Jan 14 2010, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(wintzen @ Jan 14 2010, 01:27 PM)
Can I just ask a question. If my laptop is being used by 2 BBs, does the deletion of the vendor.xml step need to be done when I am upgrading the 2nd BB?
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The above guide refers mainly to the hidden vendor.xml file, and needs to done once only.

But each time you download a new firmware and install, you'll still get vendor.xml file within the AppLoader folder.

Just delete it each time you install the new OS, no need to search for hidden vendor.xml files again.

I used my notebook to flash 4 BlackBerry's, all different models hence different firmwares.
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post Jan 15 2010, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(wintzen @ Jan 15 2010, 01:38 PM)
Thanks a lot for that bro. Will flash my Curve 8900 tonight then.
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QUOTE(sengchangko @ Jan 15 2010, 03:25 PM)
thanks a million sonyclie77, lucky I found your thread, been stuck with the problem since yesterday!
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Glad you guys found it useful.

Do share any findings, or success / failure in flashing! tongue.gif
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post Jan 16 2010, 04:26 PM

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I was thinking the same thing too. Might be your version of Viigo is not compatible with OS5?
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post Jan 17 2010, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(tednet @ Jan 16 2010, 11:58 PM)
hi just want to ask, i got  a bb from a friend, he brought it from france and when i came back here i plug in a celcom sim-card but it cant detect the sim. why is this?

o last time he use 'orange provider'. can anyone help to use it with celcom?
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Does it show invalid SIM on the phone's display?

Or the device may be locked to Orange.

To check, please check the following post, by achiko.

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post Jan 20 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jan 20 2010, 10:10 PM)
thanks ts.. flash my 8520 with no hassle!
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Glad the guide helped.

Enjoy your upgraded OS!
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post Jan 20 2010, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jan 20 2010, 11:21 PM)
1 more Q ts.. now my os is .348 i know its the old os 5.0 .. let say i got the .411 ... izit the same method i need to upgrade it?
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Just download the .411 file, install it, and go through the same process to delete vendor.xml file.

Then click on apploader.exe to upgrade.
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post Jan 22 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(pakjan @ Jan 22 2010, 11:31 AM)
mines using bold from maxis..got problem to update OS5.0..already do instruction 1st page..anyone also hv same problem or not upgrading Bold from maxis?
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What problem are you facing? Any kind of error message?
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post Jan 26 2010, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Reventon @ Jan 26 2010, 12:08 AM)
hello i wan to ask if this is the latest i can get to update for Onyx 9700  ?

9700jEastAsia_PBr5.0.0_rel541_PL5.1.0.96_A5.0.0.344_Maxis.exe

I've search and get .422 , is it compatible for my bb ?
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As long as it's for the Bold 9700, it should be compatible.

But remember to delete vendor.xml unless the firmware is an official release by Maxis (for Maxis sets) and Celcom (for Celcom sets).
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post Jan 26 2010, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(Reventon @ Jan 26 2010, 12:47 AM)
Hi sonyclie77 , mine currently is 5.0.0.344 , and the one i found is 5.0.0.442 , any difference or i just have to wait for maxis own official release ?
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You can try downloading .442 and flash it.

But what's stopping me is I noticed it doesn't have East Asian language support.

I'd stick with .344 until I find another firmware with Chinese language support.


Added on January 26, 2010, 1:01 am
QUOTE(richard3200 @ Jan 26 2010, 12:44 AM)
I am wondering how to backup our current OS be4 even flashing our BB?

I might want my older OS just in case the new 1 give me troubles.

Anyway, i found out that digi has their own OS upgrades which i am not wrong is 5.0.6xx. Currently downloading it and will try tomorrow if i am able to backup my current OS.

Please advice.
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I'm not sure how to backup current firmware, but you can download it again from BlackBerry's support site.

Hmm... DiGi's latest firmware is .400.

I will flash and see if there's any changes.

Anyway to check a firmware is to see the Applications section, ie. 5.0.0.400, and not the Package Version, ie. v5.0.0.633.

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post Jan 26 2010, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(zendengoh @ Jan 26 2010, 03:11 PM)
If i need to upgrade my firmware, is it need to delete the vendor.xml which located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader? may i know what is the next step, need some help, just enter BB world.
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Next step is to initiate AppLoader.exe, and follow the on-screen instructions.
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post Jan 26 2010, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(richard3200 @ Jan 26 2010, 07:06 PM)
I bought my set from t-mobile . if i flash mine with the current digi one, i don't think i am able to flash back to my current OS from t-mobile.
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Why would you want to flash back to T-Mobile's OS?
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post Jan 27 2010, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(richard3200 @ Jan 27 2010, 08:15 PM)
If anything get's wrong , then i still can flash them back.
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You can download the original OS from BlackBerry's support site.

If you want to restore T-Mobile's settings, just don't delete the vendor.xml file before flashing. smile.gif
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post Feb 10 2010, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(William_Yeo @ Feb 10 2010, 02:53 PM)
i'm new to blackberry, i'm using curve 8900, T-Mobile version with
(OS 4.6.1.298)... MY BB always hang and auto restart when i surfing net or open multiple apps.... will upgrade resolve my problem ?
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It might, no guarantees though, cos it depends on which firmware you upgrade to.
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post May 16 2010, 12:03 PM

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.351 Is definitely not the latest. Do google around for the latest official firmware.

I'm using .586 firmware from Celcom. smile.gif
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post Nov 16 2010, 10:41 PM

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@dicksonbell @rattan,

This thread is on "Why won't my OS update?". It's a troubleshooting thread.

A separate thread should be created on "Guide to upgrade my OS to a Hybrid OS", as it's a guide and not a troubleshooting post. Or "Guide to Upgrade my 9700's OS to OS6".

Let me know if and when it's created and I'll help to Pin it up for easy reference.

On a side note, you guys can @sonyclie77 me on Twitter if any help is needed. I'm a Torch 9800 and Bold 9700 user.

 

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