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post Feb 18 2005, 02:11 PM, updated 21y ago

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Updated 27/2/2005

Microsoft is closing a loophole that enabled unscrupulous resellers to use Windows XP product keys that were stolen from large OEMs. The result: customers who purchase Windows on a new PC will not be able to activate, nor reinstall their operating system without first calling Microsoft.

Starting February 28, Microsoft will indefinitely begin to disable Internet product activation on OEM keys used by the top 20 worldwide PC makers.

It time for OEM to start pre-install PC with Linux Distro. biggrin.gif

MS Closed Activation Key

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post Feb 18 2005, 03:18 PM

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haha......i think pirate fellow will crack them back and allow pirate software to updates windows XP

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post Feb 18 2005, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(aaronlim18 @ Feb 18 2005, 03:18 PM)
haha......i think pirate fellow will crack them back and allow pirate software to updates windows XP
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I would post a reply to this forum till someone has crack MS authentication
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post Feb 18 2005, 04:11 PM

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wow....is that true??but my windows can run as usual..it can even install SP2... laugh.gif
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post Feb 18 2005, 04:14 PM

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wanna ask...how do they know if your version is an illegal 1?
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post Feb 18 2005, 04:22 PM

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SP2 download from microsoft cannot be installed on by computer but windows update still work.
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post Feb 18 2005, 04:30 PM

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^your cd-key has been used by other people
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post Feb 18 2005, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Feb 18 2005, 04:14 PM)
wanna ask...how do they know if your version is an illegal 1?
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Good questions. But no answer yet..

New authentication system will be in placed in middle of the year (June 2005), so wait till then when MS announced the procedures of update XP service packs.

Someone claim that if he enable automatice update ON, then his pirate copies will be updated too even with new authentication system. Unless it was overlook..

Nevertheless, u have Linux with Gnome or KDE with OpenOffice suites as alternative desktop solutions , if MS clamps down on pirates copies.

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post Feb 18 2005, 04:36 PM

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I thought we should encourage everyone to use original copies.. isn't it?
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QUOTE(kons @ Feb 18 2005, 04:36 PM)
I thought we should encourage everyone to use original copies.. isn't it?
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Precisly said Kons.

That is the reason of this posting, encourage pirates to starting learning and using OSS instead of Windows becos MS is make it difficult for pirates to do service pack update despite claim that blackhat hacker may or may not able to decipher MS new authentication system.

By not offending pirate users, we still persist in our task to convience them to use OSS instead. Becos, it never ending battle between blackhat vs MS changing authentication system when it broken.

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If our goverment adjust the software price for example a copy of Windows Xp only about RM50.... then i think should be not a big problem for all the user use original instead on pirated.

Malaysia can do it "MALAYSIA BOLEH !! " Let's encourage goverment lower the software and game price biggrin.gif
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Well, at least now when we are calling Microsoft hotline for help, they will need our product key first before answering our question...

The voice of the lady on the phone was sweet though...

Getting an original copy of Windows won't be that difficult, save up save up. As long as there is P* versions of Visual Studio, I guess it is more than enough.

P/S: debiankl, since you are an avid linux user, I can't imagine how you got my name wrong. Linux is quite sensitive on these inputs, you know.

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QUOTE(D3vilsim @ Feb 18 2005, 04:54 PM)
If our goverment adjust the software price for example a copy of Windows Xp only about RM50.... then i think should be not a big problem for all the user use original instead on pirated.

Malaysia can do it "MALAYSIA BOLEH !! " Let's encourage goverment lower the software and game price  biggrin.gif
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Good feedback.

In fact there is a XP (Asian Edition) or Starter Edition (US$38.00) target and OEM PC manufacturer that has been shipping Linux pre-installed instead of XP. But many claim Starter Edition was a retraded version of XP Professional biggrin.gif or it did not take off in the market. Nobody want to be down graded to Starter Edition onces they have experienced XP Prof.

By using any Linux Distro, you have full features and functions nothing being compromise and for FREE or just purchase the CD's for media and handling cost.

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QUOTE(kons @ Feb 18 2005, 05:10 PM)
P/S: debiankl, since you are an avid linux user, I can't imagine how you got my name wrong. Linux is quite sensitive on these inputs, you know.
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Point taken and name ameded.

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Here some interesting thing about OS... FREE for LESS, PAY for MORE, Ahem Come With Everything!

FREE OS most likely less support by many softwares, you figure it out what it is.

PAY OS as we all knew, i knew, u knew what is good for!

Ahem Peoples Dun Complaint much since they got it free!

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QUOTE(RiCHBoyZ @ Feb 18 2005, 05:22 PM)
Here some interesting thing about OS... FREE for LESS, PAY for MORE, Ahem Come With Everything!

FREE OS most likely less support by many softwares, you figure it out abd what it is.

PAY OS as we all knew, i knew, u knew what is good for!

Ahem Peoples Dun Complaint much since they got it free!
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Good sense of humor.. biggrin.gif

OS.. FREE for LESS. Any Linux Distro u choose will offer you all the basic needs for computing either for office wordprocess...etc.. , programming, games (limited, but UT 2004 avaliable), and multimedia. Thus technical support of FREE OS mainly comes from its community and user groups.

There are commercial version of Linux Distro that offer u techical support should you need technical assistance at a resonable fee.
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yeah dun ever dload the SP2 from the site, you won't able to log into your windows once u restart and it happened to my once.

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Customers who visit the manual Windows Update site will be asked to prove that their copies of Windows are legitimate by allowing Microsoft's system to automatically run a check, or by providing a product identification number. Users who have lost that number will be asked three basic questions, and if they are deemed to be acting in good faith they will be given a free replacement key


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totally agree about the pricing, no one would even get the pirated once if the price is affordable sweat.gif
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i use windows xp b4, seee on net meter always upload something dun know wat, my internet always down every 1 minute coz jaring wireless have a problem on upload. using linux now, my internet can up till hold day without problem.Microsoft doing something inside our system.
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QUOTE(peanuts @ Feb 18 2005, 05:51 PM)
yeah dun ever dload the SP2 from the site, you won't able to log into your windows once u restart and it happened to my once.
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totally agree about the pricing, no one would even get the pirated once if the price is affordable sweat.gif
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yeps, experienced it many times until at last I made several users before attempting to download sp2. Now it works. (but linux is so much better! biggrin.gif )

QUOTE(nsdin @ Feb 21 2005, 09:45 PM)
i use windows xp b4, seee on net meter always upload something dun know wat, my internet always down every 1 minute coz jaring wireless have a problem on upload. using linux now, my internet can up till hold day without problem.Microsoft doing something inside our system.
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See? Don't know why linux internet connection so reliable and fast to compare with xp sp2 one. I guess that's just another reason why people migrated from windows to linux. wink.gif
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Click on the update section (27/2/2005) of the first posting for latest news about XP product activation disable.

Starting February 28, Microsoft will indefinitely begin to disable Internet product activation on OEM keys used by the top 20 worldwide PC makers.
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QUOTE(debiankl @ Feb 27 2005, 02:32 AM)
Click on the update section (27/2/2005) of the first posting for latest news about XP product activation disable.

Starting February 28, Microsoft will indefinitely begin to disable Internet product activation on OEM keys used by the top 20 worldwide PC makers.
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XP key can easily be changed by user itself

WinXP SP Change Product Key without Reinstall:

You won't have to worry about it for months, since SP1 won't
ship until September or so. But there's this procedure that allows you to change your key. Use one of
the corporate keys generated from the keygen that's been
floating around for several months.

Change Product Key without Reinstall:

1. Run regedit and go to:
HKey_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\Current
Version\WPAEvents, on the right double click on "oobetimer"
and change at least one digit of this value to deactivate windows.

2. Choose run from start menu and type in this command:
%systemroot%\system32\oobe\msoobe.exe /a to get the
activation screen and go to the second option which is
activate by phone.

3. In the new screen choose the option to change product
key, and type in the new product key (Corporate one only)***.

4. Close that window, reboot your system and enter the
command in step 2 for the second time to verify your
activation , you should see "windows is already activated".

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We are suppose to encourge users to migrate to OSS because of most home users are using MS XP pirates may be infected with virus and malware due to problem getting security patch update from MS.

Using OSS and Linux, will keep your system healthy and secure.

Pls remove those XP key, othewise you get a stern warning from Lowyat's moderator.
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hei xanda.. this is not a warez forum, don't post the key even if it's your, which is unlikely.. you've been warned.
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i see no changes on Windows Update site..
didn't ask for product key or what..
it is 28th Feb today.. yes? no?

I'm sure that OSS and Windows are equally susceptible to virus and all sort of attacks, but usually they like to go against the majority...

Using OSS and Linux to keep system healthy and secure? Excuse me.. How in the name of Oprah Winfrey that by using OSS and Linux can keep system healthy and secure? It's only secured if you know how to tweak with the settings.
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I would like to migrate to Linux but does Linux support most PC games? I game quite alot on my PC, online game too. Im not using the original WinXP but im still updating it most of the time whenever new updates are available.

The question for me is, is Linux compatible for gaming? And, i dont want dual OS.

Some of the games i currently playing are WC3, AoMythology, CnC Generals and some online games.
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Sorry friend... stay with M$ if you like gaming... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kons @ Feb 28 2005, 04:15 PM)
i see no changes on Windows Update site..
didn't ask for product key or what..
it is 28th Feb today.. yes? no?

I'm sure that OSS and Windows are equally susceptible to virus and all sort of attacks, but usually they like to go against the majority...

Using OSS and Linux to keep system healthy and secure? Excuse me.. How in the name of Oprah Winfrey that by using OSS and Linux can keep system healthy and secure? It's only secured if you know how to tweak with the settings.
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Are you using a brand new PC with shipment of XP dated 28th FEB 2005?

Like you said virus and attacks after the majority.. so be the minority would be wise choice and aren't we not seeking peaceful mind with less problems. But .... others have a different opinion...it fine with me.

Every operating system requires security tweaks, some of it are easy to configure
while difficult setting we leave that to the professional or system admins who has the know-how to manage it. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(jlchannel @ Feb 28 2005, 04:52 PM)
Sorry friend... stay with M$ if you like gaming... tongue.gif
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wineX is ure answer, although it's not free....i've seen screenshot of ppl playing hl2 wif it
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QUOTE(debiankl @ Feb 28 2005, 03:38 PM)
We are suppose to encourge users to migrate to OSS because of most home users are using MS XP pirates may be infected with  virus and malware due to problem getting security patch update from MS. 

Using OSS and Linux,  will keep your system healthy and secure.

Pls remove those XP key, othewise you get a stern warning from Lowyat's moderator.
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