well guys, for sure it's a big competing market between DROID and N1. what takes my attention is the processor of both super duper devices which are the

MOTOROLA DROID

&

GOOGLE NEXUS ONE

well, droid has a 600Mhz ARM cortex A8 and according to research, it's the almost same type of tech processor with Iphone which provides high-speed.

for N1, it has a 1ghz Snapdragon. but i doubt a lil bit with Qualcomm processor as in diamond which i'm using now. it DOESNT even work like a 528Mhz processor.

so, any PROS here to explain which one is better in performance for both processors? =)


OH YA BABY, of coz i'm getting one of these though..XD that's why i hope to make it clear.


regards,
billy.

It would be hard to say whether the performance would be substantially hit, or just a little bit hit or maybe not at all. But performance hits are very subjective, unless it is very very obvious. It could be a case of “I didn’t mean to imply no performance hit wat, but its only a little bit only whaaaaat…”. Haha!

I am going purely by way of the processor speeds and RAM sizes here, which may be oversimplistic. However, the Moto and the Nexus are using different processors. The Moto is using the TI OMAP 3430 and the Nexus, the Qualcomm Snapdragon. The OMAP 3430 is supposedly very good with graphics as exhibited by the Samsung i8910 HD and the Nokia N900 which use the same processor. Why?

The OMAP 3430 is actually a dual-core processor and consists of a 600 MHz ARM Cortex A8 + PowerVR SGX 530 GPU + 430MHz C64x+ DSP + ISP (Image Signal Processor). For more technical stuff, I pulled the following info from a review of the Samsung i8910 HD done by My-Symbian (all credit to them and Michal Jerz, the site owner/founder/reviewer). Please note that this review was done in June, 2009. To quote:-

“…Samsung went one step further and for the first time ever on the Symbian platform equipped the Omnia HD with the next-generation OMAP3 (OMAP3430 to be exact) processor. The only existing smartphone I am aware of using this processor is the Palm Pre, to be followed by the recently announced Sony Ericsson Satio (a.k.a Idou), the new iPhone 3G S and the rumoured upcoming Nokia N900 Internet Tablet.

So, what’s so special about it? Let the specifications speak for themselves. Texas Instruments OMAP3430 (made in 65 nm technology) is a dual-core processor (which means that it contains an ARM host CPU and one or more DSPs) consisting of ARM Cortex A8 application processor running at 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX530 GPU (graphics acceleration processor) and TMS320C64x DSP/ISP (Digital/Image Signal Processor taking care of telephony, data transmission, image processing, etc) running at 430 MHz. Sounds too complicated? Too compare, the N97 is based on a single-core processor running at 434 MHz (i.e. 164 MHz / 27% less) having to do all the work by itself, as it does not contain GPU for graphics acceleration, nor the remaining accelerators. This should give you an idea of how much more powerful the OMAP3430 is.

For those interested in more details, let’s take a closer look at what’s inside the OMAP3430. The ARM Cortex A8 (ARMv7-A architecture) is the main core powering the operating system and applications, running at 600 MHz and delivering up to 2000 Dhrystone MIPS (to compare, ARMv6 architecture based ARM1136 processor used in e.g. Nokia N97 provides up to 740 MIPS). This core offers as spectacular features as 13-stage superscalar pipeline (the first superscalar CPU in a Symbian phone) with advanced dynamic branch prediction achieving 2.0 DMIPS/MHz, VFP (vector floating-point computation accelerating voice compression, 3D graphics and audio), NEON (64 and 128 bit SIMD instruction set accelerating multimedia and signal processing), Jazelle RCT (Java acceleration and JIT compilation), Thumb-2 (extended 32-bit instruction set, bit-field manipulation, table branches, and conditional execution), integrated L1 and L2 caches and more.

PowerVR SGX530 is a “Series5″ GPU (graphics accelerator) from Imagination Technologies, including pixel, vertex, and geometry shader hardware. It includes fully programmable universal scalable shader architecture and delivers performance of 14 MPolys/s and full support for OpenGL ES 2.0. To compare, Nokia’s OMAP2420-based phones (e.g. N93, N95, N82, E90) contain older PowerVR MBX GPU supporting OpenGL ES 1.x, and Freescale MXC300-30 based ones (like the N97, 5800 XpressMusic, N75, etc.) do not contain a GPU at all.

The TMS320C64x DSP/ISP core (running at 430 MHz) takes care of all kinds of digital signal processing. It frees the main core from having to spend precious cycles on handling baseband (voice communication and data transmission) and speeds up image processing. To compare, Nokia’s OMAP2420-based phones include older C55x (rather than 64x) DSP running at 220 MHz (i.e. almost twice slower) and the Freescale MXC300-30 based models incorporate StarCore SC140e DSP operating at up to 250 MHz.

To recap, what we get is a high-performance mobile computer with a processor delivering up to 2000 Dhrystone MIPS (actually slightly less at 600 MHz, but still within the 1000-2000 MIPS range), i.e. more than average Pentium-III processor, with powerful OpenGL ES 2.0 capable hardware 2D/3D acceleration quite sufficient for a full-featured mobile game console and high-end multimedia player and recorder. Texas Instruments’ technical specifications mention performance increase of over 3x (and over 4x in multimedia applications) compared to older processors used in other S60 phones. Right, it’s no longer the only smartphone using this outstanding processor, but it’s the only one at the moment really UTILIZING its great multimedia and computing performance thanks to being a MULTITASKING device equipped with an 8 Megapixel/HD camera vs. poor 3 MPix/VGA on the Palm Pre or non-multitasking iPhone 3G S. …”

So, the OMAP 3430 processor in the Moto may not be so bad all after as compared to the Snapdragon, at least in terms of graphics!

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i dont think there will be a significant difference on its performance... dun you think motorola want to jeopardise their potential comeback in the market share?

well, xennnion..thanks for answering me.

about the qualcomm processor. with such a good processor like snapdragon, it's kinda like a failure that Microsoft or HTC couldnt even provide a good driver which compatible with it.

go to the HD2 section in XDA, u can see how chainfire is getting fed up with it and developed with his own driver. so i still doubt that. but, it's the biz in WinMo.

i dont really hold an Android with me b4, so i couldnt comment much on its graphical performance but i can tell u, 528Mhz processor doesnt really work well in diamond. i think the OS itself has the problem. that's why it left a big big bad exp in me.. =( [i did flash everything to make it smooth..yet still, the performance is like, above ok a lil bit...>.<]

compare with the SnapD, Cortex, i've seen how it works in Iphone and it's truly amazing, with this piece working on android, i think it blasts. plus, it has it's own amazing graphic accelerator which i believe it can do really well in graphic part.

ermmm...doubt doubt...i wonder any benchmarks could help me? @@ looking at both ARM and qualcomm's website. it's making me blur.

BOTH PRAISEd THEMSELVES SO WELL..XD

lek_e30
motorola...haiz, sad to know that my favourite phone company has this kind of stupid marketing and blablabla behind which makes the legend company falls to the hell, i would call it. nothing attracts me since my last motorola phone. nothing changes and they always proud with their so-called legendary V3.

but now, droid did attract me. XD

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Added on January 12, 2010, 7:36 pmfound that SnapD has 600Mhz in DSP which surpass Cortex 430Mhz

This post has been edited by billy_overheat: Jan 12 2010, 07:36 PM