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post Jan 11 2010, 07:51 PM, updated 16y ago

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someone told me buy original games is dumb

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post Jan 11 2010, 07:53 PM

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Technically, buying games is dumb in that matter.
Then don't buy games, don't play games.

Go read books.
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post Jan 11 2010, 07:55 PM

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ehhh are we all dumb then? hahahaha
who give a damn to the person, just enjoy your game
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 11 2010, 07:53 PM)
Technically, buying games is dumb in that matter.
Then don't buy games, don't play games.

Go read books.
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icon_rolleyes.gif ya ya.. dont buy games, go play congkak or galah panjang
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post Jan 11 2010, 07:59 PM

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then why buy an expensive console on the first place


buy Funstation la


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post Jan 11 2010, 08:00 PM

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i dont care
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:01 PM

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I will reply "To each their own" and don't bother with his comments.
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:05 PM

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some say pigs can fly, and that aliens exist in Area 51.
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:05 PM

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this is pointless, close this thread pls
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:09 PM

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playing pirated games we will be dumb
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:15 PM

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dont listen lol...they say its dumb because they cant afford...n they do nothing about it...just give bad comments...pls ppl stay ahead xD
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:15 PM

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I'd rather be dumb than buy a game that cost a developer millions for RM5.

If everyone bought pirated games, game devs would be broke, and you'd have no games to buy.

The guy who said that to you is dumb
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:20 PM

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i got money
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:22 PM

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/talk like simple jack

you.. mamamamake... me me me... dududududummbbb.. laugh.gif

seriously, if we dumb by buying original? then we also dumb by buying furniture, stuff even food.
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:23 PM

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i don't care much what they say

as long i enjoy my games and wish for more
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:45 PM

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Buying original games isn't dumb, thinking only PS3 have original games is.
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:46 PM

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most malaysians think that way. malaysian way of life. so they get angry that ps3 is disrupting their bad habits
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:52 PM

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OMG, 1st our PM said I'm immoral cause I asked for bonus, now people said I'm dumb cause I buy ori games.
Immoral + Dumb, the ultimate combination. Henshin.
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:56 PM

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as long i enjoy my game... who cares?
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:56 PM

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Face it, if PS3 games were available at RM 5, you would.
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Jan 11 2010, 08:56 PM)
Face it, if PS3 games were available at RM 5, you would.
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Don't be so sure..
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post Jan 11 2010, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 11 2010, 08:57 PM)
Don't be so sure..
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Well many here would buy. I am that sure.
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post Jan 11 2010, 09:01 PM

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what to do. buy ori game you are dumb. you buy pirate you are cheapskate. lose lose situation. heh.
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post Jan 11 2010, 09:01 PM

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the dumber u get the richer u are
so people that make games even dumber then u lol..
no wonder they so rich
ehhh ...where am i

In before close...

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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Jan 11 2010, 08:56 PM)
Face it, if PS3 games were available at RM 5, you would.
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sweat.gif ummm....maybe. lols. no lah. not for ps3. because cannot online marrr~ otherwise they do like xbox larrr. cancel account. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 11 2010, 09:02 PM)
sweat.gif ummm....maybe. lols. no lah. not for ps3. because cannot online marrr~ otherwise they do like xbox larrr. cancel account.  shakehead.gif
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online not necessary. or can buy two consoles. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Jan 11 2010, 09:03 PM)
online not necessary. or can buy two consoles.  tongue.gif
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actually better to buy ori game. each game is carefully checked, weighed and measured. hehe. cherished to the max.
pirate game... aku campak under the car also i dun care. also the game i dun appreciate. its all about the luv bebeh. wub.gif
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They say dumb coz they don't feel it.i feel like..."special" when buying my 1st ori PS3 Game tongue.gif .feel like found a treasure-hv box,manual n such whistling.gif .btw,not only malaysian r cheapskate.piracy is 1 major reason why X360 so popular sweat.gif .
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Feel numb after 700 over experience..
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Can't feel my wallet after 800 experience... tongue.gif
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post Jan 11 2010, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 11 2010, 09:09 PM)
actually better to buy ori game. each game is carefully checked, weighed and measured. hehe. cherished to the max.
pirate game... aku campak under the car also i dun care. also the game i dun appreciate. its all about the luv bebeh.  wub.gif
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carefully checked until you find a crack in the middle then poof.

and to me, more games per RM X spent is always a good thing.
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Jan 11 2010, 09:19 PM)
carefully checked until you find a crack in the middle then poof.

and to me, more games per RM X spent is always a good thing.
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hard to argue with that.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 11 2010, 09:21 PM)
hard to argue with that.... sweat.gif
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Agree...but in the end,it goes back to one's perception.if u want to buy ori,buy.if u want to go along piracy way,we can't stop u.but saying other people "dumb" when they did good thing is baaad mad.gif .juz live the way we r comfort with k icon_rolleyes.gif .juz my 2 cents.

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post Jan 11 2010, 10:04 PM

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how dare he insult those who r original gaming supporters?
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 11 2010, 08:57 PM)
Don't be so sure..
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seconded

wii got a lot of RM5, but i still buy the ori

buy original, play original

RM5 buyer is a loser who cant afford to live their live with honesty
like a person who spend RM5k a month wif credit card while his/her salary is only 2k per month
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well, this "someone" dont have the guts to buy an original game because he dont have any money or his mother don't let him to buy a ps3, maybe his happy playing his ps2 hoping and waiting that the bluray will be cracked later so that he can happily buy a modded ps3 to play like a stupid fking little idiot
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i like where this thread is going.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Jan 11 2010, 08:56 PM)
Face it, if PS3 games were available at RM 5, you would.
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i may not.
since im using my own money to buy games, i can buy whatever i want nod.gif

QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 11 2010, 09:09 PM)
actually better to buy ori game. each game is carefully checked, weighed and measured. hehe. cherished to the max.
pirate game... aku campak under the car also i dun care. also the game i dun appreciate. its all about the luv bebeh.  wub.gif
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my ori games i campak in the car and forget about them sometimes.. rclxub.gif sweat.gif
leave it in hot sun all day long,come home then only remember it's in the car laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 11 2010, 11:14 PM)
i may not.
since im using my own money to buy games, i can buy whatever i want nod.gif
my ori games i campak in the car and forget about them sometimes.. rclxub.gif  sweat.gif
leave it in hot sun all day long,come home then only remember it's in the car laugh.gif
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cry.gif if you dun wan give to me lah. i will take good care of it. maybe even through birthday party for it laugh.gif hahahahah. i always bring my games with me when i buy it. i always wear cargo shorts so i got big pockets no problem. hehehe. 10-15% of my salary maaa for one game. i must keep it close. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 11 2010, 11:14 PM)
i may not.
since im using my own money to buy games, i can buy whatever i want nod.gif
my ori games i campak in the car and forget about them sometimes.. rclxub.gif  sweat.gif
leave it in hot sun all day long,come home then only remember it's in the car laugh.gif
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So neglectful... shakehead.gif





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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 11 2010, 11:30 PM)
cry.gif if you dun wan give to me lah. i will take good care of it. maybe even through birthday party for it laugh.gif hahahahah. i always bring my games with me when i buy it. i always wear cargo shorts so i got big pockets no problem. hehehe. 10-15% of my salary maaa for one game. i must keep it close.  nod.gif
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If you paid the amount he pays for most of his games, you'd forget about them too laugh.gif
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they truth is...people who say like that is dengki + cemburu giler2
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post Jan 11 2010, 11:56 PM

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They probably spend hundreds of dollars at CC every month, playing the same game over and over; when they could just buy it for much less (long term)
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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Jan 11 2010, 11:45 PM)
So neglectful... shakehead.gif
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im not nuts over keeping things the way they are..if rosak rosak la,no big deal
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Hi All,

Here's my 2 cents of the issue, the best reason for buying not pirated games is to ensure that the content owner ie. the studios gets paid for their investment in people and production of the game. If they get paid the company continues to exist thus creating more games for the consumers. Besides keeping the studios afloat we ie. the gamers will have the privilege to play online especially on the current gen consoles. In another perspective, before we gamers go splurging on games, we do our research first to ensure that we'll be getting our money's worth for a single title and ensuring that we'd be entertained for hours and weeks before hunting for the next game to play.

Hope to hear others opinion on the matter, bye for now
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QUOTE(kobe24bryant @ Jan 11 2010, 08:58 PM)
Well many here would buy. I am that sure.
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if trapped with an offline PS3.. I WOULD laugh.gif
(Just so that i could afford a new PS3 nod.gif )
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QUOTE(skarebels @ Jan 11 2010, 07:51 PM)
someone told me buy original games is dumb
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Hahahaha..Don't worry about them. yawn.gif

Buying original is much more better and worth it even tho' at a pricey price.. thumbup.gif

So, those who said it is dumb to buy original games, they are just jealous and envious because you can buy original games and they couldn't. nod.gif

If I were like you, I would say," So what? Using my money mah, not yours. So, why do you care?" Sure they will shut up one.. brows.gif

So, just continue enjoying the original games lah. Just ignore those envious flies.. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Trishharas @ Jan 12 2010, 08:21 AM)
Hahahaha..Don't worry about them. yawn.gif

Buying original is much  more better and worth it even tho' at a pricey price.. thumbup.gif

So, those who said it is dumb to buy original games, they are just jealous and envious because you can buy original games and they couldn't.  nod.gif

If I were like you, I would say," So what? Using my money mah, not yours. So, why do you care?" Sure they will shut up one.. brows.gif

So, just continue enjoying the original games lah. Just ignore those envious flies.. whistling.gif
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lol. if they come over to your house to play say "NO! go play your ps2/xbox mah~ much better right?!" hahahahhaa.
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I feel dumb buying original games when the original games I buy :

1) Has bugs/glitches but the developer did not fix them (silent hill 5, ffx international, genji on ps3, fatal frame 4 etc)

2) The price quickly drop after I buy it. Or Play Asia give big discount after I buy it.

3) The game is lousy and not worth the money I paid for.

Besides that, I am happy to buy and own them laugh.gif
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 12 2010, 09:22 AM)
lol. if they come over to your house to play say "NO! go play your ps2/xbox mah~ much better right?!" hahahahhaa.
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If they come over to play my PS3 but still saying craps about original games, I might as well lock my PS3 away in my room and bring out PS2 for them to play (which I have few original games).. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Dark NT @ Jan 12 2010, 09:32 AM)
I feel dumb buying original games when the original games I buy :

1) Has bugs/glitches but the developer did not fix them (silent hill 5, ffx international, genji on ps3, fatal frame 4 etc)

2) The price quickly drop after I buy it. Or Play Asia give big discount after I buy it.

3) The game is lousy and not worth the money I paid for.

Besides that, I am happy to buy and own them laugh.gif
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thumbup.gif true...i oso feel cheated when they want us to buy extra costumes/moves/items through DLC when they could have included it in the 1st place.....DLC tat is sort of expansions/episodes is fine...but not items/characters..... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(andy_lhc @ Jan 12 2010, 09:38 AM)
thumbup.gif true...i oso feel cheated when they want us to buy extra costumes/moves/items through DLC when they could have included it in the 1st place.....DLC tat is sort of expansions/episodes is fine...but not items/characters..... rclxub.gif
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i dont really care about the DLC's because the developers have created a game that is already complete. there is no need for them to put in extra effort for costumes when they dont have to. think about it this way~ if you were a game developer and finished the game already, would you spend an extra few thousand dollars and a few weeks to release an extra costume or item? no need right? so just put as DLC, if you dont want it you dont need it. if you want it you buy it lah.
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QUOTE(ajis @ Jan 11 2010, 08:05 PM)
this is pointless, close this thread pls
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QUOTE(Trishharas @ Jan 12 2010, 09:32 AM)
If they come over to play my PS3 but still saying craps about original games, I might as well lock my PS3 away in my room and bring out PS2 for them to play (which I have few original games).. whistling.gif
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I have XBOX 360 & Wii, ppl automatically think coz i want to play pirated doh.gif
Duh! I buy it for Halo 3 & Mario.
And ppl think i am dumb coz i only get original. doh.gif

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rm 200 is like rm 5 to me , so no difference really .... 200 or 5 is still same to me. cant even make a dent to my bank account.

so if the person saying by being dumb means u r rich , then yeah , i want to be dumber pls.

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Some people think just because u r not wealthy, it is ok for u to commit crime, such as stealing.
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 12 2010, 11:29 AM)
Some people think just because u r not wealthy, it is ok for u to commit crime, such as stealing.
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But what if I want to play the game and I have no money to buy original? Don't I have the rights to play whatever game I want after paying so much for the console? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 12 2010, 11:31 AM)
But what if I want to play the game and I have no money to buy original? Don't I have the rights to play whatever game I want after paying so much for the console? hmm.gif
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OK go ahead doh.gif
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 12 2010, 11:31 AM)
But what if I want to play the game and I have no money to buy original? Don't I have the rights to play whatever game I want after paying so much for the console? hmm.gif
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Added on January 12, 2010, 11:44 amplus if you have no money, what you doing playing games. must go study so that can cari kerja. lulz.

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Hahahahah..guys, guys..It's not dumb to buy original games coz it's your money anyway. Who are they to say that? Anyway, even if you want to buy the JS version than original, then it's your choice la..notworthy.gif

Can't buy original, just rent a game of two. I think there is one in KL that offers the service.. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 12 2010, 10:04 AM)
I have XBOX 360 & Wii, ppl automatically think coz i want to play pirated  doh.gif
Duh! I buy it for Halo 3 & Mario.
And ppl think i am dumb coz i only get original.  doh.gif
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Hahahaha..Some people just love to jump into conclusions..laugh.gif

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well i dunno about you, but for me its like if i want that game no 1 could stop me from buying it, if you dont have the $ its either to go 2nd hand or go for rental. if those 2 are not an option for you, then its best you work hard with an motivation of getting that game.

it will make you treasure the game when you buy it with yr hard earn money.

i notice ppl who plays pirate games dont actually finished all thier games. ppl who buys original mostly finish them clean before selling it off.

this is also why most of the developers dont include full content in the game because of pirates. example: dragon age, they would be missing the blood dragon armor(free code) & the Golem Shale(free code). (soldier's peak is only for limited edition), now we are about to get "Return of Ostagar" & the next expansion on March 16, which the pirate user has no access to, unless they come out with an expansion disc.

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 12 2010, 09:48 AM)
i dont really care about the DLC's because the developers have created a game that is already complete. there is no need for them to put in extra effort for costumes when they dont have to. think about it this way~ if you were a game developer and finished the game already, would you spend an extra few thousand dollars and a few weeks to release an extra costume or item? no need right? so just put as DLC, if you dont want it you dont need it. if you want it you buy it lah.
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my point is the game already contains those extra stuff...y shud we pay extra to get those items already in the disc.......eg characters tat have been developed and included in the disc (SCIV) y shud i pay to unlock yoda?? the same goes to costumes/items....those r already in the game.....meaning we hav paid for those items..... wink.gif
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QUOTE(andy_lhc @ Jan 12 2010, 11:56 AM)
my point is the game already contains those extra stuff...y shud we pay extra to get those items already in the disc.......eg characters tat have been developed and included in the disc (SCIV) y shud i pay to unlock yoda?? the same goes to costumes/items....those r already in the game.....meaning we hav paid for those items..... wink.gif
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hmm.gif i guess so. if its already made and put into the disc you should have access to it considering you own the disc. sometimes i really wanna ketuk those developers. really inconsiderate. at least make an unlock achievement or sumthin. with choice of purchase if person doesnt want to attempt the challenge.


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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 12 2010, 11:29 AM)
Some people think just because u r not wealthy, it is ok for u to commit crime, such as stealing.
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I have always thought that is one of our country's principle sweat.gif
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It's one of my passion. It doesn't mean I'm dumb, right?

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i stole money from the store, Snap-out antie2,makcik2 handbag when i'm on ride with my motobike just getting to buy an ORI game whistling.gif

that's what i call cleverest whistling.gif

oh not dumb ya..

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Its like my dad wanna debate with me that his ahem DVD blue ray rip is of good quality and is 7x cheaper compared to the original Blue Rays that I've bought doh.gif

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we can become developed country when we got >70% ppl become dumb
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QUOTE(lsn @ Jan 12 2010, 04:02 PM)
we can become developed country when we got >70% ppl become dumb
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-Games currently own: 683

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which PM you all refer to?

Mahathir, Paklah or Najib unsure.gif
i didn't know our PM interested in gaming instead of politic unsure.gif
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 12 2010, 04:03 PM)
Our Prime Minister plays original games notworthy.gif
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wait... oh shxx... the ISA is at my front door! cry.gif

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Its like my dad wanna debate with me that his ahem DVD blue ray rip is of good quality and is 7x cheaper compared to the original Blue Rays that I've bought doh.gif
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dad debated coz u're spending his money to buy those laugh.gif
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How I know if our PM play games or not, but since play orginals = dumb so..
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 12 2010, 04:03 PM)
Our Prime Minister plays original games notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 12 2010, 05:03 PM)
How I know if our PM play games or not, but since play orginals = dumb so..
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which PM you all refer to?

Mahathir, Paklah or Najib unsure.gif
i didn't know our PM interested in gaming instead of politic unsure.gif
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If he said u dumb bcoz buy original, then ask them are ur gf also pirate one.
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I think Gumdan's PM is refering to Pr1me_Minister

hahahahaahah!

anyway... the moment he accused you dumb for buying ori, there's no more discussion.

why even bother have this pointless topic?
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ask that 'someone' to put himself/herself in this position.

imagine being at home in the dark, jobless, unable to pay the bills and feed his hungry family because people are buying the game he dedicated his sweat, blood and tears for RM10 instead of RM100.

then ask him again if he/she think buying ori game is dumb or not.

to put it in another perspective, imagine your boss firing you because someone is offering 10% of your salary for EXACTLY the same thing you do. in fact, that someone copied what you did/can do and is offering it for 10% of your salary.

do you think its dumb to pay for 'ori' then?





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QUOTE(thurtin @ Jan 12 2010, 06:53 PM)
ask that 'someone' to put himself/herself in this position.

imagine being at home in the dark, jobless, unable to pay the bills and feed his hungry family because people are buying the game he dedicated his sweat, blood and tears for RM10 instead of RM100.

then ask him again if he/she think buying ori game is dumb or not.

to put it in another perspective, imagine your boss firing you because someone is offering 10% of your salary for EXACTLY the same thing you do. in fact, that someone copied what you did/can do and is offering it for 10% of your salary.

do you think its dumb to pay for 'ori' then?
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QUOTE(thurtin @ Jan 12 2010, 06:53 PM)
to put it in another perspective, imagine your boss firing you because someone is offering 10% of your salary for EXACTLY the same thing you do. in fact, that someone copied what you did/can do and is offering it for 10% of your salary.
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You know what? If that happens, you have the rights to sue the company for wrongful termination. They need to talk to you and have you agree to the termination. And even then they will have to pay you compensation and give you time to get a new job. Most have a post-termination period of 1-2 months, where you're expected to document what you did so far. Feeling POed? Don't document completely- spend more time on hunting for new jobs via JobsDB or Jobstreet or Monster or whatever. If they don't give you post-termination period, my advice is find a lawyer or complain to labor union. That company have violated labor laws.

As for buying pirate, put this way laa. You buy cheap and a lot. But enjoyment factor also less... Too many game, cannot concentrate on finishing one... That's my experience. Also, my experience tells me pirate games got all those intro screens. Do you want to sit through irritating music with screen full of cuss words? Do you want your children to see that?

And then for some very involving games like RPGs, cutscene movies may be removed, BGM/voiceovers may be missing, features removed and some just plain randomly crash at random points and dun let you finish the game due to cheap media and/or poor QC (or overlooked copy protection). And if the game comes with freebies like figures or accessories, expect to not have them too and buy them separately, because games that comes with accessories will often need the accessory in question anyway.

Plus, buy pirate got fear of being caught if you buying suddenly BSA serbu the shop. Also, for console to play pirate game need to mod. And if you mod, you not only lose warranty, if the manufacturer catch you (by firmware update) your console can end up potentially "self destruct" (we use the term "bricked") or blocked from online service. You're in a lose-lose situation, you don't update firmware, you cannot play newer games. You update, your firmware may brick. Yes, a lot of latest gen console games can play online against people all over the world or with friends. If you buy pirate, you effectively put your console and yourself at risk if you play online. If you can at all because they can block pirate games. Even if you find online gaming pointless, the others in your family wouldn't (particularly latest generation, who're very used to the idea of meeting friends online even if you're not. Even women of last gen are already warming up to the idea of online meetings and talking to friends over internet than over phone).

Think about that. Take it from someone who have experienced the dark side and have denounced it.

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QUOTE(skarebels @ Jan 11 2010, 07:51 PM)
someone told me buy original games is dumb
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ah, its such a hard argument actually considering in malaysia to buy a game it costs rm160-180, whereas overseas in their currency its equivalent to rm40-50 if looking at it from dollar to dollar perspective.

how can we fight piracy like that right~ aiyo.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 12 2010, 10:58 PM)
ah, its such a hard argument actually considering in malaysia to buy a game it costs rm160-180, whereas overseas in their currency its equivalent to rm40-50 if looking at it from dollar to dollar perspective.

how can we fight piracy like that right~ aiyo.
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That's the problem with a lot of people here. Conditioned to compare the price using RM to USD. Although that's only half of the story. The other half is unscrupulous dealers: harga tak turun even after game no longer popular. Those are same dealers that carry *ahem* stuff. You still expect me to buy Metal Slug Anthology for Wii at RM199 even after 4 years of launch? Sorry, I rather turn to eBay. Too bad the average Malaysian does not trust/know how to use online shopping either.

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jan 12 2010, 11:42 PM)
That's the problem with a lot of people here. Conditioned to compare the price using RM to USD. Although that's only half of the story. The other half is unscrupulous dealers: harga tak turun even after game no longer popular. Those are same dealers that carry *ahem* stuff. You still expect me to buy Metal Slug Anthology for Wii at RM199 even after 4 years of launch? Sorry, I rather turn to eBay. Too bad the average Malaysian does not trust/know how to use online shopping either.
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well you cannot blame the dealers for not lowering the price. i mean after all they did pay for the game to have it in stock. so why sell it at a loss as people are still asking about it. as for online shopping, lots of people dont do online shopping because of trust. and even if you do trust the system, everyone hates the ketam that will hold your dvd/bd/game whatever. this i think is the biggest problem with people shopping online. i hate ordering stuff from overseas because of ketam.

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My say:

Knowledge has no expensive or cheap price. I'd rather educate my children on the meaning of value than abuse the system just to avoid being called dumb. Besides, one who learns of true value is wiser than does who don't.

Your thoughts please.
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I prefer to buy the 'cheap' PS3 games if available. better that way than not play at all becoz got no money.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jan 13 2010, 10:14 AM)
My say:

Knowledge has no expensive or cheap price. I'd rather educate my children on the meaning of value than abuse the system just to avoid being called dumb. Besides, one who learns of true value is wiser than does who don't.

Your thoughts please.
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Sony educated gamers play PS3 original games.
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QUOTE(kyap @ Jan 13 2010, 10:55 AM)
Sony educated gamers play PS3 original games.
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QUOTE(Cool_Knights @ Jan 13 2010, 10:38 AM)
I prefer to buy the 'cheap' PS3 games if available. better that way than not play at all becoz got no money.
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but you dont have a ps3 rite? you have xbox360 where you can prefer to buy cheap xbox games

like everyone in here knows, someone who thought himself the angel in gaming said gaming is a luxury
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Cool got it. heck, I forgot what game he got from me that time for the PS3. laugh.gif

Phoenix, you know what I mean. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jan 13 2010, 11:03 AM)
Cool got it. heck, I forgot what game he got from me that time for the PS3. laugh.gif

Phoenix, you know what I mean. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nairud @ Jan 13 2010, 11:06 AM)
opps. lol. siggy takdo psn card, so i dunno
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Malaysian thinking....

when student with 0 income - cannot afford, cos still student. buy pirated. use parents / PTPTN money.

graduated, first job with 1.5k income - cannot afford. claim money not enough.

subsequent jobs / promotions 3k to 8k income - cannot afford. claim game expensive.

LOL. wth?!?!

and often these people who say no money, buy pirated, happen to be the people who have decent car, have console, computer with decent gaming specs, nice handphone, or whatever else, so on so forth. biggrin.gif

btw this debate went on before. one of the many threads http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=268218

is buying original dumb? NO - you want to play, you better pay. if the developers made a good game, you pay to play it. life is like that, you can't afford then don't feed the pirates, they're the ones hurting your beloved gaming industry.
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its dumb to buy RETAIL BOX games at RETAIL PRICES!... i buy steam games at 80% discount.. i got GTA 4 for 7 USD = RM30 .. i get all the updates, latest patches and stuff.. which is much better gaming experience then playing the pirated version which hangs and lags + no updates!
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QUOTE(burner @ Jan 13 2010, 11:18 AM)
its dumb to buy RETAIL BOX games at RETAIL PRICES!... i buy steam games at 80% discount.. i got GTA 4 for 7 USD = RM30 .. i get all the updates, latest patches and stuff.. which is much better gaming experience then playing the pirated version which hangs and lags + no updates!
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Steam lain cerita dey. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(burner @ Jan 13 2010, 11:18 AM)
its dumb to buy RETAIL BOX games at RETAIL PRICES!... i buy steam games at 80% discount.. i got GTA 4 for 7 USD = RM30 .. i get all the updates, latest patches and stuff.. which is much better gaming experience then playing the pirated version which hangs and lags + no updates!
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 13 2010, 12:08 AM)
well you cannot blame the dealers for not lowering the price. i mean after all they did pay for the game to have it in stock. so why sell it at a loss as people are still asking about it. as for online shopping, lots of people dont do online shopping because of trust. and even if you do trust the system, everyone hates the ketam that will hold your dvd/bd/game whatever. this i think is the biggest problem with people shopping online. i hate ordering stuff from overseas because of ketam.
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Ketam normally won't simply tahan packages. Only exceptions they tahan is either game declared to cost more than RM500 (tahan for import duty only, must be extremely rare game to cost so much, or the seller screwing you by purposely declaring the game to cost a lot- did you argue with the seller?), your record become suspicious because you buy too many games too often (1 game a month usually no problem. Stack of 10 every week, however, different story) and if it comes in through express means (Usually through poslaju/parcel post less likely to kena tahan compared to through FedEX/DHL/UPS).

As for Metal Slug Anthology, idk if anyone is still asking for it except me. It's so old and people prefer the PSP version...

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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jan 13 2010, 11:26 AM)
As for Metal Slug Anthology, idk if anyone is still asking for it except me. It's so old and people prefer the PSP version...
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I Am = gamers, I Am = PS3, I Am = original, I Am = money, I Am = working, I Am = Quality, I Am = buying/trading/selling, and I Am = enjoy!!!

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 13 2010, 11:29 AM)
OT: Just get the PS2 version, they screw up the controls on the Wii
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 13 2010, 11:17 AM)
Malaysian thinking....

when student with 0 income - cannot afford, cos still student. buy pirated. use parents / PTPTN money.

graduated, first job with 1.5k income - cannot afford. claim money not enough.

subsequent jobs / promotions 3k to 8k income - cannot afford. claim game expensive.

LOL. wth?!?!

and often these people who say no money, buy pirated, happen to be the people who have decent car, have console, computer with decent gaming specs, nice handphone, or whatever else, so on so forth. biggrin.gif

btw this debate went on before. one of the many threads http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=268218

is buying original dumb? NO - you want to play, you better pay. if the developers made a good game, you pay to play it. life is like that, you can't afford then don't feed the pirates, they're the ones hurting your beloved gaming industry.
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it's not just Malaysian thinking.

even westerners who pay close to a quarter of what we're paying, b**** and moan just as badly.(at times even worse than Malaysians)

even at 50 bucks,they claim gaming is too expensive.
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QUOTE(burner @ Jan 13 2010, 11:18 AM)
its dumb to buy RETAIL BOX games at RETAIL PRICES!... i buy steam games at 80% discount.. i got GTA 4 for 7 USD = RM30 .. i get all the updates, latest patches and stuff.. which is much better gaming experience then playing the pirated version which hangs and lags + no updates!
Steam can buy PS3 games meh? smile.gif

the thing is - new games come out, people don't need to play immediately mah. the problem is we all like to play immediately. biggrin.gif

if it doesn't involve multiplayer, a good game is good always. can play 2 years later at discount price also nmind.

for PS3 games, just wait a few months la - people play finish they also will sell off. just have to wait for good deals.

go make friends with console seller shops, ask them to inform you when got used game. why not?

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 13 2010, 11:37 AM)
it's not just Malaysian thinking.

even westerners who pay close to a quarter of what we're paying, b**** and moan just as badly.(at times even worse than Malaysians)

even at 50 bucks,they claim gaming is too expensive.
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Does it then justify Malaysians' tendency to pirate games?
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 13 2010, 11:37 AM)
it's not just Malaysian thinking.

even westerners who pay close to a quarter of what we're paying, b**** and moan just as badly.(at times even worse than Malaysians)

even at 50 bucks,they claim gaming is too expensive.
i was referring to the "claim cannot afford despite progressing through various stages of income increase"

however if you do find that Westerners are like then we'll just have to conclude that many people across the world have such mentality.

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 13 2010, 11:21 AM)
Don't forget by the time you got your game every one else already finished the game. Technology is a race against time. I can just say "what for buy the latest PC when I can get a Pentium 2 for dirt cheap?"
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Added on January 13, 2010, 11:46 amlolz ps3 if got FAKE U ALL SURE BUY ALREADY LA..

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lolz ps3 if got FAKE U ALL SURE BUY ALREADY LA..
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You sure? I have a Wii. It has fakes, but I prefer to only buy ori... It has modchips, but I choose to buy mine unmodded. Even going as far as to import it from the US to be doubly sure it's unmodded.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 13 2010, 11:40 AM)
i was referring to the "claim cannot afford despite progressing through various stages of income increase"

however if you do find that Westerners are like then we'll just have to conclude that many people across the world have such mentality.
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Well, no one is sure. anyone who already invest thousands in ori games will find it hard to revert back to their old habit, which is good. I was a pirate last gen (tons of cd folders at home), but since getting myself a unmodded 360 3 years ago, its kinnda hard for me to flip those dvd folders at most gameshop.

Gears of war = RM160
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Jan 13 2010, 11:53 AM)
Well, no one is sure. anyone who already invest thousands in ori games will find it hard to revert back to their old habit, which is good. I was a pirate last gen (tons of cd folders at home), but since getting myself a unmodded 360 3 years ago, its kinnda hard for me to flip those dvd folders at most gameshop.
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I'm same with you.

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QUOTE(aiyish @ Jan 13 2010, 11:53 AM)
Well, no one is sure. anyone who already invest thousands in ori games will find it hard to revert back to their old habit, which is good. I was a pirate last gen (tons of cd folders at home), but since getting myself a unmodded 360 3 years ago, its kinnda hard for me to flip those dvd folders at most gameshop.

Gears of war = RM160
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Gears of War = RM12
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It's RM12 now? ohmy.gif
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I can choose to play all these game at no cost at all, but I choose not to. Yes, I'm stupid. laugh.gif

People think it's ok to pirate because it's the easiest crime to commit without being caught unlike shoplifting. rolleyes.gif
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well, i know some of my friends use pirated games as a test bed .. if the games are nice.. they will purchase the original later. if the games suck.. then at least gotta try before we buy.
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 13 2010, 11:56 AM)
It's RM12 now? ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Pr1me_Minister @ Jan 13 2010, 11:57 AM)
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I can choose to play all these game at no cost at all, but I choose not to. Yes, I'm stupid. laugh.gif

People think it's ok to pirate because it's the easiest crime to commit without being caught unlike shoplifting. rolleyes.gif
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Your SINGLE Golden Sun hurt my eyes mad.gif
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 13 2010, 12:02 PM)
Your SINGLE Golden Sun hurt my eyes  mad.gif
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I'm still looking for the first game, but too scared to buy from eBay. sweat.gif

You can also get extra limited edition stuffs that only comes with the original games. For example the soundtrack CD for my Knights in the Nightmare (I still haven't finish it lol), and I'm getting a limited edition Japanese game that comes with lots of goodies from Amazon.co.jp (no I'm not buying Love Plus xD).
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Pirated GBA games: Is the bateri still working?

Ori GBA games: Nothing to worry

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 13 2010, 12:13 PM)
Pirated GBA games: Is the bateri still working?

Ori GBA games: Nothing to worry

See who's dumb
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i tot nowadays those card no need battery to save game for a long time icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 13 2010, 12:16 PM)
i tot nowadays those card no need battery to save game for a long time  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 13 2010, 11:39 AM)
Does it then justify Malaysians' tendency to pirate games?
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maybe not.
but buying second hand games(which most of us do) doesnt help developers either.lol

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 13 2010, 11:40 AM)
i was referring to the "claim cannot afford despite progressing through various stages of income increase"

however if you do find that Westerners are like then we'll just have to conclude that many people across the world have such mentality.
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yup.
even they think that way. sleep.gif
you just need to glance through some international forums and chances are you'll see them moaning about it the same way malaysians do.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 13 2010, 12:22 PM)
you just need to glance through some international forums and chances are you'll see them moaning about it the same way malaysians do.
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But those are far and few in between..

Unlike here near and many in between.
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But ppl are moaning that japanese FFXIII are freaking expensive..
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Jan 13 2010, 12:29 PM)
But ppl are moaning that japanese FFXIII are freaking expensive..
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actually here, the thinking is, as long as u buy it is legit. even if u buy pirated. that's why it is hard to mold.

even speedy n legit video shops selling pirated anime disguise with kdn stickers...how common ppl gonna differentiate? it's not like every ppl out there is updated with these things from the net.

most just buy it for their kids n not for themselves. as in the case for psp, gba, ps2, wii n 360. n some is from high level positions in their jobs too.
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 13 2010, 12:26 PM)
But those are far and few in between..

Unlike here near and many in between.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 13 2010, 12:37 PM)
you need to spend more time with them.
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u need to spend time in modder's n pirate's forum smile.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 13 2010, 12:39 PM)
u need to spend time in modder's n pirate's forum smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jan 13 2010, 12:22 PM)
maybe not.
but buying second hand games(which most of us do) doesnt help developers either.lol
yup.
even they think that way. sleep.gif
you just need to glance through some international forums and chances are you'll see them moaning about it the same way malaysians do.
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Buying 2nd hand games, release credit / money back to the 1st hand buyer,
and it can use the money to invest back into games.

Having a healthy 2nd hand market also ensure buyers that they can always unload their finished games,
hence encourage more games consumption.
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 13 2010, 12:41 PM)
It's like saying "the whole nation is drug addicts" when you just visit the rehab center of a country doh.gif
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actually in malaysia, the ori group are the addicts coz it's the minority laugh.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 13 2010, 12:48 PM)
actually in malaysia, the ori group are the addicts coz it's the minority laugh.gif
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 13 2010, 12:43 PM)
Buying 2nd hand games, release credit / money back to the 1st hand buyer,
and it can use the money to invest back into games.

Having a healthy 2nd hand market also ensure buyers that they can always unload their finished games,
hence encourage more games consumption.
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tell that to the developers/publishers laugh.gif
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tell that to the developers/publishers laugh.gif
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The fact that they stop pursuing GameStop and other 2nd hand resellers in US
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lolx buy original mean dumb... then don play original dumb is not dumb? the guy who call you dumb is really dumb biggrin.gif
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is it?
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QUOTE(Mr.Beanster @ Jan 13 2010, 04:59 PM)
lolx buy original mean dumb... then don play original dumb is not dumb? the guy who call you dumb is really dumb biggrin.gif
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ppl oso buy 2nd hand house/cars... I dun see that crippled the property/automobile industry. tongue.gif

When ppl do something wrong, and they want to make themselves feel less guilty and comfortable... they always justify reasons for their wrong doings.

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QUOTE(penman @ Jan 13 2010, 06:01 PM)
ppl oso buy 2nd hand house/cars... I dun see that crippled the property/automobile industry. tongue.gif

When ppl do something wrong, and they want to make themselves feel less guilty and comfortable... they always justify reasons for their wrong doings.

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no $$$ to buy ori, means you can't afford.

either you work out a plan to save $$... or don't play at all.

Play Facebook~lah... so many nice+addictive games... and it's FREE!!!

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QUOTE(penman @ Jan 13 2010, 06:19 PM)
no $$$ to buy ori, means you can't afford.

either you work out a plan to save $$... or don't play at all.

Play Facebook~lah... so many nice+addictive games... and it's FREE!!!

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Buying pirated game is stupid.

Modded consoles usually encounter more problems than unmodded ones (for obvious reasons)
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Original or not? hmm.gif
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hard to say... 'cos games developers for FB, copy ideas from each other, released, then sue each others!  tongue.gif
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Added on January 14, 2010, 9:29 am
QUOTE(skarebels @ Jan 11 2010, 07:51 PM)
someone told me buy original games is dumb
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I am with you TS.

Ok this might not related to this topic.

My recent encounter is that a bunch of aunties come to chit-chat. Inadvertently, two of them see me playing PS3 and start using that as a topic to chat. Being in a small house, I heard mostly everything, including parents shouldn't allow kids to spend so many money on games....and start comparing until this comes out "my son quite clever lor...spend little to buy games.....RM5 per game only......why your son have to buy so expensive one? Cut him off lah" (The quoted conversation is translated from other languages)

Being a working 24 years old guy, I am not sure how my parents can "cut me off". Anyway, my policy is always that "please respect other people's hobby and don't stuck your nose into people's business". I mean, you don't see me complaining you buying that RM800 worth of Wok instead of that RM18 one. Why you should complain how I spend my money and past time? I hint that point very clear...hope I don't get such stupid comment in the future from these people.

Kiasu? Jealous? Say something without going through the brain or just plain ignorant? I am not sure. But, TS, don't worry about it. If people say buy original is stupid, fine, ask them no need to play PS3, stand a chance of getting every single weird problems from their consoles, get caught for keeping copyrighted stuff and etc.

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QUOTE(alex13 @ Jan 14 2010, 09:17 AM)
Yeah, so saw cheapo Mario inside...just want you jump some super high walls and thats about it.


Added on January 14, 2010, 9:29 am

I am with you TS.

Ok this might not related to this topic.

My recent encounter is that a bunch of aunties come to chit-chat. Inadvertently, two of them see me playing PS3 and start using that as a topic to chat. Being in a small house, I heard mostly everything, including parents shouldn't allow kids to spend so many money on games....and start comparing until this comes out "my son quite clever lor...spend little to buy games.....RM5 per game only......why your son have to buy so expensive one? Cut him off lah" (The quoted conversation is translated from other languages)

Being a working 24 years old guy, I am not sure how my parents can "cut me off". Anyway, my policy is always that "please respect other people's hobby and don't stuck your nose into people's business". I mean, you don't see me complaining you buying that RM800 worth of Wok instead of that RM18 one. Why you should complain how I spend my money and past time? I hint that point very clear...hope I don't get such stupid comment in the future from these people.

Kiasu? Jealous? Say something without going through the brain or just plain ignorant? I am not sure. But, TS, don't worry about it. If people say buy original is stupid, fine, ask them no need to play PS3, stand a chance of getting every single weird problems from their consoles, get caught for keeping copyrighted stuff and etc.
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haha... the terms "Intellectual Property" doesn't exist in those aunties dictionary,
ask them to choose between the RM5 pasar malam dvd or original RM50 DVD of their favorite TVB drama, which one will they choose? laugh.gif
The mind set of the older generation is set already, No point arguing with them tongue.gif

what we can do now is educating our younger generation, show a good example to the younger gamers smile.gif
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QUOTE(alex13 @ Jan 14 2010, 09:17 AM)
Yeah, so saw cheapo Mario inside...just want you jump some super high walls and thats about it.


Added on January 14, 2010, 9:29 am

I am with you TS.

Ok this might not related to this topic.

My recent encounter is that a bunch of aunties come to chit-chat. Inadvertently, two of them see me playing PS3 and start using that as a topic to chat. Being in a small house, I heard mostly everything, including parents shouldn't allow kids to spend so many money on games....and start comparing until this comes out "my son quite clever lor...spend little to buy games.....RM5 per game only......why your son have to buy so expensive one? Cut him off lah" (The quoted conversation is translated from other languages)

Being a working 24 years old guy, I am not sure how my parents can "cut me off". Anyway, my policy is always that "please respect other people's hobby and don't stuck your nose into people's business". I mean, you don't see me complaining you buying that RM800 worth of Wok instead of that RM18 one. Why you should complain how I spend my money and past time? I hint that point very clear...hope I don't get such stupid comment in the future from these people.

Kiasu? Jealous? Say something without going through the brain or just plain ignorant? I am not sure. But, TS, don't worry about it. If people say buy original is stupid, fine, ask them no need to play PS3, stand a chance of getting every single weird problems from their consoles, get caught for keeping copyrighted stuff and etc.
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hahahah. well aunties is always like that. like to talk nonsense, always talk big, for their own kid they dont say anything. maybe their kid is only like 12 yrs old and save all his years lunch money to buy that rm5 game hmm.gif your mom's friend must be very thrifty with her money.
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buy original course reference book! start from there. don't simply photostat2 to afford to buy original games biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 14 2010, 11:37 AM)
everyone in ps3 forum is dumb ph34r.gif
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You mean Playstation forum?

I don't think so, since there's also PSP laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 14 2010, 11:38 AM)
You mean Playstation forum?

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I think I'm more dumb by supporting ori Wii. laugh.gif
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Ya wii sucks..why support wii? COD 4 wii sucks loads of (insert AVGN cussing word here)
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 13 2010, 03:40 PM)
The fact that they stop pursuing GameStop and other 2nd hand resellers in US
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2nd games, cant do anything about it , its complicated for developer / publisher to sue , thats why sony plans to lock bluray games to 1 system ( if i bought god of war 3 and activated on my ps3 , it wont be able to play on other ps3 ) but its sucide idea , ppl will get angry and sony will loose customers .. so tak jadi la ..


renting games in US / UK / Canada is different , shops like gamefly , play and more legal shops , they will buy the game from developer / publisher with higher price tag and its legal . for example .. GOW3 = us59.90 for normal sales , for shops that buy for renting purpose , maybe usd 500 ..
in malaysia renting games and buying used games is equal to buying pirated games .. ( i still buy used games , sad.gif slowly changing myself ) , im not saying who ever buying used game is crime or dumb , we dont have legal shops like gamefly all in malaysia , so ppl dont have much choice .. once they understand the importance of buying original , slowly they will buy more new games than buying used or pirated games ..


back to topic ...

ppl who said buy original is dumb , basically he is a kid or grown kid .. ppl with common sense wont say anything like that ..


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So in M'sia buying original game is dumb
buying used original is dumber?

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this is proof that people who buy ori ps3 games is dumb. i really lol. hahahah. maybe should sell my ps3. takut pulak jadi like this guy.

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i think the level system is somewhat like this:

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Genius: Borrow Pirated Games from frens.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 14 2010, 12:35 PM)
i think the level system is somewhat like this:

Uber Dumb: Buy New & Sealed Ori Games
Dumb: Buy Used Ori Games
Average: Rent Ori Games
Clever: Buy Pirated Games
Genius: Borrow Pirated Games from frens.
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Jan 14 2010, 12:38 PM)
Super Genius: Develop game and sell it for millions of buckeroos!!
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it's dumbest to think buying ori game is dumb. Just like how people think smoking is cool. Hence everyone take up smoking. Morons.

Like I always say, there is no justification to committing crime. A crime is still a crime no matter how you glorified it.

Parents are ignorant about piracy, didn't know their kids will become like that as well. When programmers can't earn good salary, don't blame it on the industry. Blame it on your friends who think buying original software is dumb.
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This thread is not as epic as those PS3 vs 360 thread sad.gif
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fanbois are dumb. if you are a real gamer you will love any piece of machinery that can play games. 1Malaysia!! 1Gamer!! 1LYN!! lol
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i was once almost fight with my good old friend. He is always saying games are too expensive, too much games cant buy all if all original.. bla bla bla, but I always told him it is at least to respect the sweat and energy that developers had put into the games. if not that rich enough to support so many games, just buy one then play for few months la... and then he gives alot excuses, bla bla bla again... until i almost feddup with all his excuses and give him a punch (almost) biggrin.gif
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post Jan 14 2010, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(takky @ Jan 14 2010, 06:42 PM)
i was once almost fight with my good old friend. He is always saying games are too expensive, too much games cant buy all if all original.. bla bla bla, but I always told him it is at least to respect the sweat and energy that developers had put into the games. if not that rich enough to support so many games, just buy one then play for few months la... and then he gives alot excuses, bla bla bla again... until i almost feddup with all his excuses and give him a punch (almost) biggrin.gif
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You're not supposed to buy every game out there tongue.gif

I, for one, wouldn't buy Terminator Salvation even if it was RM5 (PS3)
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post Jan 14 2010, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Jan 14 2010, 07:39 PM)
You're not supposed to buy every game out there tongue.gif

I, for one, wouldn't buy Terminator Salvation even if it was RM5 (PS3)
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i would buy it if it was RM5. then can sell to colt ph34r.gif


Added on January 14, 2010, 7:51 pm
QUOTE(takky @ Jan 14 2010, 06:42 PM)
i was once almost fight with my good old friend. He is always saying games are too expensive, too much games cant buy all if all original.. bla bla bla, but I always told him it is at least to respect the sweat and energy that developers had put into the games. if not that rich enough to support so many games, just buy one then play for few months la... and then he gives alot excuses, bla bla bla again... until i almost feddup with all his excuses and give him a punch (almost) biggrin.gif
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you can argue with your friends so much about games huh? hahah. lucky most of my friends all support ps3 and ori games hahaha. even though they dun have. haha.

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post Jan 14 2010, 08:29 PM

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People say you're dumb probably because their hopes of obtaining a pirated copy of Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and FFXIII jap version is hampered. tongue.gif icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Jan 14 2010, 12:40 PM)
Shouldn't it be borrow pirated games, copy, and sell? sleep.gif
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And get loads of buckeroos? Sureeee..

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Mega genius: Gets tired of arguing, follows his heart and head, and stop looking at this thread.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 14 2010, 01:54 PM)
fanbois are dumb. if you are a real gamer you will love any piece of machinery that can play games. 1Malaysia!! 1Gamer!! 1LYN!! lol
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A real gamer will experience games on each and every console console. Fanbois, by the way, is all about one console.. whistling.gif

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Fanboys wars are fun to watch  rclxms.gif
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You are such a fire stone lah.. laugh.gif

QUOTE(gnsumas @ Jan 14 2010, 07:39 PM)
You're not supposed to buy every game out there tongue.gif

I, for one, wouldn't buy Terminator Salvation even if it was RM5 (PS3)
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Meaning? hmm.gif

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Jan 14 2010, 08:29 PM)
People say you're dumb probably because their hopes of obtaining a pirated copy of Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and FFXIII jap version is hampered. tongue.gif icon_idea.gif
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Yeah, it crush theirs hopes of buying pirated copy of U2:AT and FFXIII Jap Version...that's why they say it is dumb to buy ori....they who said it is dumb to buy ori games = PHAIL! icon_idea.gif
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How about one day you publish your own work, people buy pirated version and say buying the original copy is dumb?

Think the other way round.
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QUOTE(AcE_Shadowfax @ Jan 15 2010, 09:44 AM)
How about one day you publish your own work, people buy pirated version and say buying the original copy is dumb?

Think the other way round.
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That would be devastating for me.. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(AcE_Shadowfax @ Jan 15 2010, 09:44 AM)
How about one day you publish your own work, people buy pirated version and say buying the original copy is dumb?

Think the other way round.
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i plan to open my own clothing line... the day i see my baju hanging in pasar malam i think ill be very happy laugh.gif and also very sad sad.gif . that people think my creation so wonderful that they wanna copy it. heheh. mixed feelings.

but for gaming... for sure i will go out hire someone to hunt and kill those mass manufacturers of pirated goods. after my company spent millions on development.
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 14 2010, 12:41 PM)
what about micro genius? tongue.gif
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set up console

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post Jan 15 2010, 11:17 AM

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i never finished twin bee T_T

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post Jan 15 2010, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(gnsumas @ Jan 14 2010, 07:39 PM)
You're not supposed to buy every game out there tongue.gif

I, for one, wouldn't buy Terminator Salvation even if it was RM5 (PS3)
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He already has the mindset, every game on the market also must at least touch a bit. After touch it, if the game is good, then good game! if the game sucks, he says its rubbish.
He only has Wii now, because it is the cheapest among all current gen consoles and the easiest to download and burn into DVD. PS3? not yet cracked. Xbox360? DVD9, abit expensive and will have chance to fail when burn it. doh.gif

his BT download never stops! ate up all my bandwidth vmad.gif

QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 14 2010, 07:50 PM)
i would buy it if it was RM5. then can sell to colt ph34r.gif


Added on January 14, 2010, 7:51 pm

you can argue with your friends so much about games huh? hahah. lucky most of my friends all support ps3 and ori games hahaha. even though they dun have. haha.
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yea, because I cannot tahan him keep on complaining PS3 and Xbox360 very nice and Wii's graphics sucks to the max, and Wii's games for kids... all those kind of bullsh*t but reluctant to pay for even xbox360 because its not easily burn into DVD9!
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thread mcm ni pun ada ka... aiya... dumbo
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post Jan 15 2010, 01:48 PM

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They are just jealous that you can afford ps3.
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post Jan 15 2010, 02:58 PM

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tell them buy funstation la
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QUOTE(jphlau @ Jan 15 2010, 01:48 PM)
They are just jealous that you can afford ps3.
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That's why I say buying original games isn't dumb, thinking only PS3 have original games is sweat.gif

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post Jan 15 2010, 05:07 PM

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when wanna lock this dumb thread oredi?
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