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post Feb 17 2005, 06:08 PM, updated 21y ago

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hi, i'd like to know how to create a dual boot OS? and which version of linux you recommend me to use since i'm a newbie tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2005, 09:01 AM

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any linux that u like. But I would recommend mandrake or fedora. coz these are not too complicated to install. Besides, u can either select grud or lilo for the dual boot when installing linux. I used lilo most the time though.

Or if u want to use a windows mbr... u can try boot from ur xp cd and press 'r' instead of going on for the installation. (that is of coz if u install ur xp first) and type 'fixmbr' to overwrite the boot loader. But I personally have not done this, just learnt from the internet.

or for ur second choice u can first install linux than windows. but that is only if u want the windows mbr. good luck!
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post Feb 18 2005, 09:19 AM

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wow...all the short terms....can i haf a detailed explaination?? cause i'm a total noob here laugh.gif
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post Feb 18 2005, 09:56 AM

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u using linux for what? if ur a usin for programmin, u better use red hat linux 9...

i'm usin dual boot windows xp pro and redhat linux 9, and using windows mbr as master boot... no complicated step as mr jojog said biggrin.gif (no offence)

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post Feb 18 2005, 12:46 PM

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but how do you do it?? cause i tried..it wipe out my whole windows partition and install linux on it instead cry.gif i created 2 partitions and both got wipe out...hmmm...which do you recommend since i wanna try out linux...i heard suse is good...true? and for programming, wat do you mean?
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post Feb 18 2005, 03:17 PM

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if u dont touch/change/reformat/fdisk that hdd, after ur win partition is missing, u might try Advanve Partition Recovery (full version, as Trial only able to view the pastition deleted).

1. use partition magic (or any other partition maker) to get extra partition for linux. 1-3GB is enuf, make it EXT2, EXT3, or reiserFS filesystem format (think it as FAT32 or NTFS on windows). make another partition <500MB as SWAP format.

2. boot with linux bootable cdrom. partition manually, DON'T partition automatically. n every steps u choose, read the side notes.

3. yes suse is easier for newbie, but the installation steps is long (n tricky too).

4. use live cd such as knoppix/std, feather, dsl, mandrake etc.

5. wanna simple one first? try out libranet 2.7 classic. based on debian, it only 1 CD. on minimal install, it takes <450MB with Icewm "theme". for gnome or kde, it take more space.

6. for safety, use another HDD whistling.gif
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post Feb 18 2005, 04:13 PM

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oh....thx...hmm....but which version of linux is best used for newbies like me??mandrake??some advice pls tongue.gif

oh...and i got a USB modem...issit possible to use the modem to connect to the net? and where do i get linux drivers?? must my windows partition b converterd to FAT32 instead of NTFS?can linux read NTFS? cause i'm planning to share files (eg, music, movies)
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if you want to install 2 OS:Linux,winXP,then it is better to make a FAT32 partition for file exchange between NTFS & EXT3 or EXT2,

because from linux,you can read files from NTFS but you can't write files into it......

so it is better have an FAT32 because linux support read & write for it
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post Mar 14 2005, 06:11 PM

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just wondering myself...if u were to install 2 OS;windows n linux,can u install both in the same drive?will it detect if installed in different drives?

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post Mar 14 2005, 06:35 PM

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u can use vm ware to create dual or more os boot..
im using it now...can boot fedora core 3 , knoppix and windows xp at one time..
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post Mar 14 2005, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Feb 18 2005, 04:13 PM)
oh....thx...hmm....but which version of linux is best used for newbies like me??mandrake??some advice pls tongue.gif

oh...and i got a USB modem...issit possible to use the modem to connect to the net? and where do i get linux drivers?? must my windows partition b converterd to FAT32 instead of NTFS?can linux read NTFS? cause i'm planning to share files (eg, music, movies)
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use knoppix live cd...play wit it..to make things smooth when using knoppix..copy it to hdd so that can boot from the hdd...
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post Mar 14 2005, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(zooloo @ Mar 14 2005, 06:11 PM)
just wondering myself...if u were to install 2 OS;windows n linux,can u install both in the same drive?will it detect if installed in different drives?
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by using vm ware...u can boot 2 os in one drive...
vm ware will create one visual drive so that can install other os in it..
but using dual boot u have to consider Ram and space factor..
the usage of the ram will be double from usual coz 2 os operating at one time
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post Mar 14 2005, 10:16 PM

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use suse linux instead. i really recomend it. i'm using suse (i still wonder how to pronouns the word suse tongue.gif ) 9.1 it is easy to install and configure. believe me. try to read another post regarding the comparision between mandrake, suse, and fedora.

for dual boot. get yourself a bot manager. for me ii'm using OS SELECTOR from acronis. i just installed winxp in my firs partion, my linux in second partion and i installed the OS SELECTOR and it outo detect both my xp and linux. but u must not installed le LILO or GRUB (linux boot loader) in your MBR. if u don want to use boot manager like OS SELECTOR, PARTION MAGIC, u can also just use Linux boot loader to enable u to dual boot. but u need to configure the linux boot loader manually. but for suse and fedora, there boot loader is configure automatically to enable you to make dual boot but u MUST installed xp first before linux.

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just wondering myself...if u were to install 2 OS;windows n linux,can u install both in the same drive?will it detect if installed in different drives?
yes u can do that in same drive but u cannot boot them in the same time biggrin.gif

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by using vm ware...u can boot 2 os in one drive...
vm ware will create one visual drive so that can install other os in it..
but using dual boot u have to consider Ram and space factor..
the usage of the ram will be double from usual coz 2 os operating at one time


never heard of that. i have installed both in the same drive but as i said earlier cannot boot both in the same time. so just one OS is in pysical ram. not both.

the trick for dual os is playing with your mbr. but beware it can make your entire hdisk unaccessable. i just recoment.

1. installed your xp in first partion
2. manually partion your second partition to installed linux using 3rd party partion sofware.
3. installed your linux on second parition and your linux bootloader in in mbr of the disk. i belive for fedora and suse and also mandrake (not sure) it will automatic configure to dual boot to xp.

please correct me if i've said something wrong here sweat.gif

p/s: please excuse my spelling and gramatically error sweat.gif




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post Mar 15 2005, 01:20 PM

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vm ware create a visual drive in the system partition (mostly C: drive)..
the others OS been install in visual drive by using the vmware as well..
in my case..im overclocking my computer..need to run windows coz dunno how to stress my cpu using linux ... sweat.gif
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post Mar 15 2005, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Mar 15 2005, 01:20 PM)
vm ware create a visual drive in the system partition (mostly C: drive)..
the others OS been install in visual drive by using the vmware as well..
in my case..im overclocking my computer..need to run windows coz dunno how to stress my cpu using linux ... sweat.gif
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r u saying that u run both linux and xp at the same time shocking.gif how come? bye the way how did you overclock your com? using sofware? or bios tweaks? as far as i know if u tweaks your pc in bios, it also stress up your pc in linux. but... for linux seem no need for oveclock couse there are no use to it. biggrin.gif what benefit you got from overclock in linux, any comment. smile.gif as for windows, it's good couse we can play lot of games and other stufs.

erm... just curios to know. that VM can allowed us to play windows games in windows environment when we on linux platform? it is some kind of emulator?

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post Mar 15 2005, 02:42 PM

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I would suggest to use Fedora Core 3/ Suse 9.2/Ubuntu for the newbie.

For the installation:
1) First create 1024Mb partition for MBR(either Lilo/Grub)
2) Secondly, install Windows XP in second partition
3) Lastly, install Linux in third partition

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post Mar 15 2005, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(hafifee @ Mar 14 2005, 06:40 PM)
by using vm ware...u can boot 2 os in one drive...
vm ware will create one visual drive so that can install other os in it..
but using dual boot u have to consider Ram and space factor..
the usage of the ram will be double from usual coz 2 os operating at one time
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VMWare = dual boot?

I think you got your concepts a bit mixed up. VM = virtual machine. Hence, VMWare is the software that lets you emulate multiple Operating Systems on a single machine.

That doesn't count as dual boot, because there's no disk partitioning involved.

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post Mar 15 2005, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(husagi @ Mar 15 2005, 03:05 PM)
VMWare = dual boot?

I think you got your concepts a bit mixed up. VM = virtual machine. Hence, VMWare is the software that lets you emulate multiple Operating Systems on a single machine.

That doesn't count as dual boot, because there's no disk partitioning involved.
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yes i agreed with that. what is in my mind, can VM make playing windows games posible in linux rolleyes.gif if yes, that nice shocking.gif
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QUOTE(evilguy @ Mar 15 2005, 09:52 PM)
yes i agreed with that. what is in my mind, can VM make playing windows games posible in linux  rolleyes.gif  if yes, that nice  shocking.gif
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owh..if that so..i got the wrong concept.. notworthy.gif
but by using vmware..easy for me to learn linux thumbup.gif
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post Mar 16 2005, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(evilguy @ Mar 15 2005, 09:52 PM)
yes i agreed with that. what is in my mind, can VM make playing windows games posible in linux  rolleyes.gif  if yes, that nice  shocking.gif
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when browsing to the net i discover something interesting located here
is that true? shocking.gif but the sad thing is we cannot download it. couse we must pay for it. erm... i though all linux sofware are free cry.gif

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