Are there stores still selling it?
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Pioneer Kuro PDP-428XG/508XG, Is it still being sold?
Pioneer Kuro PDP-428XG/508XG, Is it still being sold?
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Jan 8 2010, 04:57 PM, updated 16y ago
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Are there stores still selling it?
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Jan 8 2010, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Jan 8 2010, 05:13 PM) PDP-428XG Jusco...very expensive...Rm8888..still available.. Wow, so expensive still?? How about Desa Home Theater? Anyone checked that out yet?IF can find in Senq its RM4XXX based on a members feedback. PDP508XG Senq...goes for RM9XXX...not sure now... QUOTE(ar188) resolution too low. 1024x768... paying for 786k pixels feels shortchanged vs normal FullHD 2.07million pixels.. Resolution is quite low but then at 42", will that make such a big difference? By the way, I am planning to pair it with a PS3 which is used mainly for BD movies. I plan to use it occasionally with my xbox too. Is that a good choice or should I gun for something else? So far, I have also checked out the Pana G10 series. Looks really good! |
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Jan 9 2010, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(anchovies93 @ Jan 8 2010, 11:44 PM) Here you go. Wah, damn tempting...Good price too.. thanks man..http://www.hlk2u.com/Plasma-TV-42-PIONEER-...=876&doit=order Just buy one unit. I want it too. RM4399. Still cant decide if i should get this kuro or samsung LED. But i love the kuro.Always been a plasma fan.... Hope you enjoy it. Added on January 9, 2010, 1:48 am QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 8 2010, 08:05 PM) yes if course important, or else why watch 2million pixel full HD BDs? just watch normal DVds if resolution is not a concern.. and way cheaper too.. Ummm, what I meant was is there a noticeable difference since it's only a 42". I once read that full HD and HD ready only has a difference on 50" tvs and above. This post has been edited by DemonTweakZ: Jan 9 2010, 01:48 AM |
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Jan 9 2010, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(anchovies93 @ Jan 8 2010, 11:44 PM) Here you go. I have a question, why is it so cheap at HLK? Display unit ah?http://www.hlk2u.com/Plasma-TV-42-PIONEER-...=876&doit=order Just buy one unit. I want it too. RM4399. Still cant decide if i should get this kuro or samsung LED. But i love the kuro.Always been a plasma fan.... Hope you enjoy it. |
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Jan 9 2010, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(putih @ Jan 9 2010, 11:25 AM) Desa HT sells 508XG at 8800 and KRP500A at RM13K. For 428XG, it's been discontinued but if you still can get new at RM4.5K or less, grab it. I paid full price at RM6999 more than a year ago. The picture is just phenomenal for 42inch considering it's rez is only 1024x768. It's still better looking than most FulHD plasma today. Flagship AV in Kepong has full range Kuros and gives best deal also. The only thing that's stopping me from getting it at this very moment is the fact that it's not Full HD. I am planning on using it for BD movies and I sit 6 feet from the tv (because it's gonna be in my bedroom). Do you think the resolution makes a difference in my case? |
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Jan 9 2010, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(anchovies93 @ Jan 9 2010, 12:47 PM) Display unit? Don't want la, if that's the case I'll go for the Panny 42" G10. But other places also might be selling at 4.5k so I think it's not a display set.By the way, has anyone made comparisons between the 428XG and the Pana TH-P42G10K? I am actually torn between the two. Can someone give me their input? Here are the specs for the Panny: Panasonic Viera TH-P42G10K Specs |
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Jan 10 2010, 12:53 PM
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Anyone care to make comparisons between a 428/508XG with either a S10/G10?
I am currently torn between the S10/G10 and the 428/508. Help!! |
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Jan 11 2010, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Jan 10 2010, 08:45 PM) Bro Demon, it is better to bring yr favourite disc to test out @ yr normal viewing distance. Let yr eyes to decide. Do take note S10, G10 & 428/508 are different league lo... also the price... Different league? But same price range ma. Thanks, I plan to go check them all out.Added on January 11, 2010, 9:08 am QUOTE(se7enhafiz @ Jan 11 2010, 12:41 AM) i now have pana g10..superb plasma for the price..4.5k..u'll get deep black depth n very good motion handling..n natural color..here in penang still can find pioneer 428xg..last time the price was 4599..for me..as for now..i think it is best to go for pana 42g10..if u can wait sometime..around 4 months time..pana will release new LED LCD TV.. I don't want an LED LCD TV. I prefer a plasma since I'm gonna use it for BD movies. The G10 and the 428 have good black levels. Does the G10 better the 428 in this department? It's hard to see it in a shop because they are usually brightly lit so I need a owner's perspective. The other main difference here is the resolution. Will it make a difference to a normal person? G10' full HD and 428XG is not. This post has been edited by DemonTweakZ: Jan 11 2010, 09:08 AM |
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Jan 11 2010, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 11 2010, 09:24 AM) G10 does not reach the black levels of the 428. Nor does it have the colour accuracy of the 428. Another area where the 428 is better is the availibility of the 9 point gamma correction for better overall greyscale and gamma. Thanks mate!I believe the G10 and the 428 are pretty close in Lumens/Watt technology, however the G10 is slightly higher in that aspect since it was newer. Resolution wise of course the G10 is Full HD vs 428 which is only 1024X768. Will u notice the resolution difference, only u can tell. Ur viewing distance of 6ft comes into the territory of where u shd see the difference. However, in my opinion on a 42in set, the pixels are already very close to each other, some people will not see a difference on moving pictures. On static images, difference will be there, again depending on how observant u r. On ar188 comment, on scaling artefacts, I have not seen them on actual Blu Ray content but on actual test patterns it can be observed, albeit subtlely. There is no actual jagged edges, however, on 1080p test patterns, there are instances of loss of resolution. I have also found that in my case to reduce the artefacts due to downscaling on test patterns, being able to output 720p from a capable Blu Ray player reduces these instances. Again, it does not seem to matter when viewing actual HD material, especially since the 428 is capable of accepting 1080p/24Hz and reproducing it at 72Hz. This is an area that I am not sure if the G addresses. All in all, the decision is urs. In my opinion, if it is a 50in set, I think Full HD is important, on a 42in set, resolution is not the no 1 issue as the pixels are pretty close together. However, people differ in what they see and hear, and some people are more sensitive to things than others. So I would suggest u taking ur favourite Blu Ray Disc and get them to test it on both the sets and view it from ur viewing distance. I'll definitely bring my favourite BD (Dark Knight) when I go check out the G10 and the 428. Besides those, are there any other plasmas that are in the same price range that will give me comparable PQ? Added on January 11, 2010, 11:09 amI found out that the PDP-LX508G is Full HD. Anyone know the price of this? It should be the cheapest full HD Pioneer around rite? This post has been edited by DemonTweakZ: Jan 11 2010, 11:09 AM |
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Jan 11 2010, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 11 2010, 11:14 AM) If u r going for the LX, might as well go for the KRP-500, I believe is around 13k. I doubt u can get a LX below RM10k. Well, there goes the idea of getting the LX la. Hahaha..Thanks for your very valuable info. You have both the G10 and the Kuro i pressume? I've been asking around and most of my friends tell me that they are not able to notice the difference between Full HD and HD Ready, so I am more inclined to the Kuro at the moment.Added on January 11, 2010, 11:31 am QUOTE(gocitygo @ Jan 11 2010, 11:19 AM) Bro Demon, with Dark Knight, you shall appreciate the dark scenes. I like the 508XG too. Do you happen to know the current price? It's listed as RM9999 in Pioneer's Malaysian website.Why not 508XG? The resolution is higher at 1365 x 768, but still not a Full HD. I don't think you can calibrate the color for S10 and G10. If you are serious about color accuracy, you should consider those TV with CMS. This post has been edited by DemonTweakZ: Jan 11 2010, 11:31 AM |
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Jan 11 2010, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 11 2010, 11:52 AM) I own the 428 and the 600M. I have calibrated numerous S10s, X10s (C10) and played around with a G10. I have not calibrated a G10 so am unsure of the true potential. However, I have seen teh calibrated numbers of a THX enabled G10 and I know that the differences between that and the S10 are not too much, except that it has better black levels. Asian G series does not have THX, so the only difference is increased levels of gradiation (different panel) and better blacks due to a mixture of panel and AR coating. When you say that, do you mean the 428 or the latest Kuros? Do you happen to know the pricing for the 508XG? I think that would be a better option than the 428 rite? Since the resolution is better on the 508. Not considering the $$$ I would have to splash of course. The V and the Z series have more accurate colours. The 2010 V series will be the one to match the Kuros. |
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Jan 11 2010, 12:58 PM
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Jan 11 2010, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Jan 11 2010, 01:32 PM) SenQ is selling 508XG for RM7999 (Display set), calar a bit here n there on the plastic cover. No problem on the panel since its made of glass Wah, that's nearly double the price of the 428XG! HLK is selling the 428 for 4400. Would that be a display item since the website only states that there are 4 units available? I believe Pioneer wanted to clear all old model since their new Flagship Full HD plasma oledi in the market. Anothing thing, the 508XG contrast spec is 16000:1 whereas the current Plasma oledi in millions:1. Is the latter one inflated no or different test mode? Source: http://www.hlk2u.com/Plasma-TV-42-PIONEER-...=876&doit=order |
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Jan 11 2010, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 11 2010, 02:43 PM) Watch out, there seems to be many display sets out there. Is it possible for me to check the hours before I buy it? Won't they get offended? I'm sure the salesperson will tell me that it's brand new even if it's a display set.Do u know how to check the hours? Else PM I will let u know. |
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Jan 11 2010, 03:52 PM
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Anfieldude,
Could you give me a comparison between the G10 and the S10? Those two are my 2nd and 3rd choice respectively. If the 428 is going to be a display model, I won't get it. I would rather get the G10 or the S10. I would also appreciate opinions from anyone else. |
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