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post Oct 15 2010, 01:36 PM

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I'm actually interested going to the chinese concert in taman budaya. Wanted to watch a chinese instruments concert so badly... Too bad i can't make it cos i'm going shanghai on that week.

Few years ago, if not mistaken it was year 2005, i watched a MPO concert during chinese new year, it features a chinese orchestra. Western orchestra meets chinese orchestra, both play together, it's really awesome.
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post Oct 16 2010, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(subangman @ Oct 16 2010, 01:06 PM)
u r right.. erhu can sound depressing at times..... its mellowness can makes the soul goes wandering...
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My sister has an erhu, she used to play in orchestra during high school. I tried to play it, i gave up. biggrin.gif i pick up guitar instead. My sister no more playing, it's collecting dust in the room now. Just now i took out and play, the tone becomes very horrible, my sis told me the snake skin is worn out. I think i'll just leave it there.

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post Oct 17 2010, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(subangman @ Oct 16 2010, 11:34 PM)
la bella : just watch tis .... howz the sound of ERHU ? GOOD RIGHT ?  rclxms.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6V5DA5TK7g...layer_embedded#!
P/S : can someone pls enlighten me how to post the youtube link to forum pls... seems tat wat i've done not right... seeing a blank screen here... used to be not like tis. TQ.
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subangman, thanks for the song. Not bad. thumbup.gif I heard the song before, it's from a hong kong old movie theme song, i actually like the lyrics, very meaningful. I like hong kong's old days songs, nowadays hong kong doesn't have this kind of songs anymore.....

I'm interested in gu zheng after i listened to 渔舟唱晚 (fishermen singing at dusk). I have not played a guzheng before. What level is that song? Is it hard to play?

I actually prefer gu zheng than erhu, i just love the strings sound. I went cd shop and bought a classical gu zheng cd. I like songs such as 渔舟唱晚 fishermen, 战台风 fighting typhoon, 寒鸭戏水 jackdaws playing on water, 高山流水 high mountain and flowing water and a lot more. Wah those songs are very nice, really classic. wub.gif

P.S: Ah.. You dont need to copy the whole youtube URL when you post in forum. For example, you want to post this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6V5DA5TK7g...layer_embedded#
You just need to copy paste those numbers and alphabets after the first '='
Just copy this U6V5DA5TK7g&feature=player_embedded#


Added on October 17, 2010, 2:54 amI just watched this guzheng video. I like this performance. 彜族舞曲 The Dance of Yi People


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post Oct 18 2010, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(empire @ Oct 17 2010, 10:53 AM)
When the bridge is left on the snake skin for more than 3 months without playing, the stress from the string pessure will gradually rip the skin. Once the skin is destroyed, there's way to you can reapir it...unless you change the skin. This is easier said than done. Where the heck can you kill a Phyton...and how do you know the way to skin it and glue it to the erhu?

That's why it's only logical to throw that erhu away and buy a new one.
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QUOTE(subangman @ Oct 17 2010, 02:55 PM)
u r right Empire but dun throw it away lar.... donate to Old China Cafe. I'm sure the boss will be more than happy to put up in his shop
as for decoration and will be appreciated by all patrons.

ok.. as i promise.. mei-mei fav. song.

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Emm.. seems the erhu really cannot pakai already, nevermind la, i keep it as an antique. Not going to buy a new one cos my sis not interested to play erhu anymore.

QUOTE(faceless @ Oct 18 2010, 09:35 AM)
Are they the first three songs on the CD? 高山流水is song No7 on the CD? Look like I have the same CD too.

渔舟唱晚is one my favourite. You want to try playing it? I have an easier version. If you know chinese 123 notation, you can play it on the guitar.  The only thing is you cant produce the specialised guzheng sound effects. The other thing is you have to transpose +2 since the guzheng is tune to key of D (1 = D, 3 = F#). You should know these stuff since you taught me a great deal about music theory at the scale thread. If you want to appreciate the song more, tell me what comes to mind when you hear it. These classics are good at painting images in you mind when you hear it. We can discuss it here.

高山流水was carved into my guzheng. I been wanting to play the song since I had my guzheng. After getting the song on CD (two months ago) I been doing this song on my own (that means not asked by teacher to play because it is not my level yet). I only manage the first 50 seconds of the song so far.

战台风 I got to know at the MPO concert this year. It was played by mei mei's teacher at the concert. It is not an easy song to play. I will come to this when I am done with 高山流水.
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We have the same CD. biggrin.gif Track 1 渔舟唱晚, track 2 战台风, track 3 寒鸭戏水, track 4 漢宮秋月.. track 7 高山流水. Bought the CD from Speedy mid valley. rm19.90

I tried to play by ears. i play it on the guitar, it's the guitar version. Only manage to figure out some melody only. Haha. laugh.gif But of cos very different feel cos can't get the sound effect from other instrument. I never played the 1234567i numeric notation before but i understand how it works. 1 is the root note right?

I saw guzheng players pluck the strings on the right, at the same time left hand press and bend down the string, what's the technique called?

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post Oct 18 2010, 05:05 PM

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faceless,
Thanks for your explanation. Bending the strings to get the pitch to change, there's something similar as the bending in guitar. I guess 揉音 and 振音 is the vibrato. How much would a beginner full size guzheng costs? The strings are all nylon or some are steel strings?


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post Oct 19 2010, 11:43 AM

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faceless, thank you for explaining about the left hand techniques. Very much appreciated. I already got some idea how does it work. Can't wait to try it one day.
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post Oct 22 2010, 05:04 PM

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Count me in ~ I don't want to miss another great performance again...
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post Oct 25 2010, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Oct 25 2010, 09:45 AM)
I know. You already hinted in your pervious post. This is MPO. They will never give us exactly what we want. It is the same situation "boh huh hair pun a sai" (we will settle for the shrimps if we cant get the fish). Listening to music in a philharmonic hall is a great experience. With the ettiquette at MPO we can even hear a pin fall on the floor.
If it is happy hour then we dont need to think twice about it. Just "sapu" the box A or F (sepuluh ringgit satu ticket sahaja). My memory tells me that there is only 4 or 6 seats for box A or F. I am sure we can get the numbers. If not then think of it as we had "pau" the box for our exclusive use smile.gif From the current indication of attendance, there is a high possibility that I may end up being in the box alone.  cry.gif  Subang may be in Xian. la Bella may end up being a performer since Empire is always recruiting talents.
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QUOTE(empire @ Oct 25 2010, 10:11 AM)
faceless...My band will perform a few songs with our world class Violinist friend from Romania that night too. He is a beast on the Violin. He will play the technically challenging Gypsy folk songs. This is not for the faint hearted. His level of playing will kill many world class Violinists!

I will inform you guys the moment ticket is up for sale. :-)
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I'll be the audience. Just now i called MPO box office, confirmed the tickets for the event on 8 Dec 2010 6.30pm is available for sale now. =) Ok faceless please get the box seats. There's 6 seats in the front box A/F. biggrin.gif Yeah the hall has awesome acoustic, I have watched countless concerts in the pass few years. laugh.gif It's just great.


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post Oct 25 2010, 01:29 PM

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faceless,
MPO Box Office Tel: 03-20517007.

Thanks ya.
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post Oct 26 2010, 11:19 AM

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Thanks faceless. Will be attending the concert. I think i need to get off work earlier about 5pm. Normally i off work at 5.30, it's a bit rush for the 6.30 concert. May join you guys for a post concert gathering.

Empire, your band seems interesting and fun. By the way, how long is your show? one hour?

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post Oct 26 2010, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(subangman @ Oct 26 2010, 02:29 PM)
so there will b 3 SYTs there with 1 ah pek & 1 Kor kor... LOL
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faceless,

MPO less strict during happy hours, should be no problem for shouting encore! biggrin.gif
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post Nov 26 2010, 10:54 AM

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Empire,

Wow.. Thats awesome. Can't wait for the concert. =)
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post Dec 3 2010, 10:32 AM

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MPO Happy Hour. Be shaken & stirred!

Nice slogan there. Hahah
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post Dec 6 2010, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Dec 6 2010, 09:52 AM)
It is not very original. It is typical of Malaysian to make such simple and uncreative variation. It is form the way James Bond like his drink "shaken but not stirred".
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I see. It's James Bond's quote. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 15 2010, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Dec 15 2010, 11:24 AM)
No jokes lah. The art is dying art due to lack of interest. It may take me a long time to learn how to be an opera actor so if I can play the background music I would be content.
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Last time I read newspaper, there's a chinese opera community in Jalan Loke Yew. I manage to find a link for you. You may be interested. http://www.chinapress.com.my/topic/school05/default.asp?dt=heart&art=20100525heart.txt ://http://www.chinapress.com.my/topic/...00525heart.txt
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post Dec 15 2010, 01:45 PM

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The article says they have meeting every sunday evening. The music center is called 粵韻曲藝中心 at 96B, Jalan Loke Yew. It's beside a bridge, near to a chinese kopitiam. The founder is called Mdm Yoong. This is her contact 03-22749870/012-3073005.
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post Dec 15 2010, 02:58 PM

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Hope I can join the jamming session. But I'm not too sure, cos normally i'll be in singapore for few days during CNY.
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post Jan 11 2011, 02:37 PM

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Huhu.. guitar has some few extra challenges, but piano is not easy either. I'm not dare to say which instrument is easier or harder. But I tell my students don't think that guitar is easy.
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post Jan 13 2011, 11:43 AM

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Anyone interested in this coming MPO concert?

Here's the details:

Chinese Charmers
Sat 19 March 2011, 8.30pm

MUSIC OF THE NATIONS: CHINA

Malaysian Philharmonic Orchestra
Lan Shui conductor
Cho-Liang Lin violin

CHEN Qi-GANG: Wu Xing
TAN DUN: Violin Concerto – "Love"
CHEN GANG/HE ZHANHAO: Butterfly Lovers' Violin Concerto
ZHOU LONG: Rhyme of Taigu

Singapore Symphony Orchestra Music Director, Lan Shui, and star Chinese violinist, Cho-Liang Lin, take us on a journey through their homeland in music inspired by Chinese folk legends. Besides the ever-popular "Butterfly Lovers" Concerto, we have the Malaysian premiere of Tan Dun's Concerto, jointly commissioned in 2009 by the SSO and the Juilliard School in New York.

The same concert is available on Sunday, 20 March 2011 at 3.00pm

Ticket Price (RM): 85 | 65 | 40 | 20
Ticket Status: Available

http://www.mpo.com.my/Upcoming-Performance...nese%20Charmers
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post Jan 13 2011, 12:36 PM

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EDIT: I'll be there 19 March Saturday.

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