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 Studying in Australia (V 3.1), Please use proper English

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post May 26 2011, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ May 26 2011, 07:05 PM)
gosh i just viewed the fees for this year. Last year when i entered, it was 39k per year, now its 41k. 2k inflation for a 5 year course is a lot hey =/
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What are you talking about ?! Monash Clayton (MBBS) went from 52000 AUD in 2010 to 56800 AUD this year - how about that for inflation !!!!

I'd say if you have the money and the grades, might as well try UK first before Australia.

Oh and by the way, it's still cheaper than Perdana University biggrin.gif

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post May 26 2011, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(strategist @ May 26 2011, 11:23 PM)
Okay, this is the first time I heard of such an institution, googled it up and was utterly shocked  shocking.gif  The fees are too unrealistic for local standards. If I have that sum of money I will definitely go overseas  laugh.gif
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Nah, JPA is coughing up money to "fund" the students at Perdana; this pretty much sums up how taxpayers' money is spent in this country lol

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post May 29 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ May 29 2011, 06:52 PM)
yup! ISAT results out, exam 1 papers coming up too!  biggrin.gif To be on the safe side, it's atar 99
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I wouldn't bother with Australia if I were you. Like what limeuu said, the IMU-PMS to UK route seems to be the most viable option, considering you're taking Australian Year 12.

In addition to the internship shortage issue in Australia, most medical programs are also shifting to a postgraduate model (read American-style). The only ones left now are the following, if I'm not mistaken:
- UTAS
- Monash (Again, it makes more financial sense to study at Sunway since you are awarded the same degree)
- Adelaide
- UNSW
- U of Western Sydney and James Cook (two of the newer programs; not sure whether if it's worth taking the risk though as they are both not recognised in Singapore yet)

So, that leaves you, realistically, with just UTAS, Adelaide and UNSW (roughly 100-120 seats for international students among them). Good luck competing with students from Singapore and Hong Kong smile.gif
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post Jun 19 2011, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(mintychoc @ Jun 18 2011, 11:19 PM)
melb uni med fees doubled from 4th semester to 5th semester i thought the administration had an error and even contacted them to make sure i was not billed for a whole year by mistake.

exchange rate doesn't seem to be coming down anytime soon either.

T.T
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I guess they are trying to milk every cent out of the current international students before the inevitable drop in enrolment occurs. Couple that with the uncertainty of internship positions and I anticipate a drop in interest from traditional source countries (Malaysia and Singapore).
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post Aug 19 2011, 11:04 PM

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To all commerce students studying in Australia right now:

How many of you would reconsider coming here if accountancy is no longer on the skilled occupation list? Just curious to know the numbers.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-edu...x-1226116368418

And to recent commerce (or more specifically accounting) graduates seeking employment in Australia, I would really appreciate it if you could share some insight into the current market for accountants in Australia.
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post Sep 17 2011, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(DeathSpiritz @ Sep 17 2011, 12:22 PM)
is it difficult to get an offer from ANU? i have made their requirements and submitted my application through idp. lol will i get an acknowledgement letter first? haha
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Generally speaking, it's not difficult to get an offer from any Australian university, even the Go8 ones. The exception, of course, applies to government-capped courses such as medicine and dentistry.

Despite the elite status that Go8 universities like to associate themselves with, they are actually pretty lax in terms of entry requirements, especially for international students (certainly nowhere near the level of Ivies and Oxbridge). And the Australian government is about to uncap the number of students that a university can enrol (which may start as early as 2012) i.e. universities can enrol as many students as they want/like and still receive funding per head for each student enrolled (however med/dent numbers are still capped). This has raised serious questions about the decline in quality of certain university courses (eg arts/humanities which already have their resources stretched thin), resulting in cost-cutting measures such as reducing the number of tutorials per semester.

I'm not sure how many prospective students are aware of the current development in the Australian higher education sector, the reality is Australian standards have dropped a lot over the past decade (you're paying more each year for an increasingly inferior product/service). Sadly, too many students these days are blinded by the various ranking tables that don't necessarily reflect the teaching and learning qualities of each university...

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post Sep 17 2011, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Sep 17 2011, 05:28 PM)
It's pretty damn easy. The application itself should be acknowledged via email, and an offer should follow.

Remind me what your results were again, and tell us what you applied for.
While it's easy to agree with the entry requirements part, understand that ANU, Melbourne, and the other Australian schools don't compare with the top Ivies (UPenn, Harvard, and then Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Cornell) and Oxbridge and Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Chicago etc, on most levels anyway.

Entry requirements are not a very accurate gauge of how hard it is to enter a university or a particular course at a particular university in many cases. A look at British universities will illustrate this - e.g. Warwick sometimes has requirements equal to those of Cambridge for certain courses, and they would be higher than Oxford's, but still (putting Oxford's unique entrance examinations aside) it is less competitive than Oxford. LSE has quite low requirements in general (only AAA or A*AA or 38 in IB for a handful of courses - the rest being very much lower, compared to A*AA-A*A*A or 38-42 in IB at Cambridge and Warwick in addition to other exams, for certain courses) but is very selective for certain courses.
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While I agree that Australian universities have never and probably will never compete on the same level as the top UK and US institutions, they have thrived in the last 10 years on the back of two critical factors - affordability relative to the US and the UK and ease of migration (skilled migration after graduation that is). The former has basically evaporated over the last few months (on top of that, there is virtually no financial aid for international students whatsoever compared to their oh-so-generous American counterparts) while immigration pathways have also been tightened considerably.

The cracks are certainly starting to show: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-edu...x-1226135202927

For an industry that has been growing continuously for 10 years to collapse overnight is highly improbable but I definitely foresee fewer genuine students (read: do NOT intend to migrate to Australia permanently) in the next few years. The only death-kneel I can think of is removing skilled migration from the equation, which will almost never happen...

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