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 Studying in Australia (V 3.1), Please use proper English

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zeke'stah
post Jan 18 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(SRLee @ Jan 18 2011, 04:06 PM)
I don't think it's that easy to apply for PR. I think you have to stay there for some time.

I'm not sure and I don't really know so chances are, my information is wrong.

Could someone with PR experience help clarify this issue?

And yes, students with PR enjoy local rates without giving up Malaysian passport.
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yes, you'd have to stay there. like 2 out of 5 years kinda thing. and since you were born there, it shouldn't be hard to apply for a PR right? Why don't you give it a shot? smile.gif
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post Jan 18 2011, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(immabee @ Jan 18 2011, 06:17 PM)
Click here to find out what's my issue. =D

Before that, I would like to thank you guys for helping out in answering my previous questions and provide encouragement.
Alright. Here we go.

Well, as some of you suggested that I should wait for Uni B. From 5 universities, down to 3. Just realised that I didn't manage to get through uni B as it is so demanding for all applicants this year. Unless I'm given another chance in second round offers. So what I left right now is Uni C, D and E and three of them are all based in different cities. Uni A is off the list because the deadline is due and I did not respond to their offers.

Your role? Good question. Not going to ask you guys which uni is good or bad. I believe all unis are good in their expertise. What I need you guys to help out is to write down any extra details that you guys may gain when studying in these universities or any solutions in solving the cons I've listed from each uni and its related surroundings.

And btw, I'm planning to take Bachelor of Commerce majoring Accounting. I'm ok with additional units from Finance too. These 3 unis are all accredited by ACCA, CPA and ICAA if I take the recommended units by these boards. Am not encourage to perform any credit transfer.

Uni C [QUT]
- Referring to haya's post dated 9/1/2010, there are stereotypes, e.g. Asians in Business. Chances of getting exposure interacting with other students in the same faculty may be limited.

Uni D [Uni of Adelaide]
- The climate isn't really my type. I am not the person that is fond of cold that goes down below 5 or 6 degrees during winter. May get chapped lips and dry flaky skin most of the time.

Uni E [UWA]
- It is really tough to look for off-campus accommodation that specifically caters for students [unlike other cities have UniLodge etc]. realestate.com.au. share-accommodation.net sounds unpromising for my parents. Both of them are not looking forward on residential colleges too.

So yeah, feel free to express your opinions and solutions. Have been searching like mad over the internet. >.<
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why not try Uni D? Uni C and Uni E has stereotypes problems and accommodation issues. These problems are somewhat HARDER to solve compared to Uni D. Uni D, your issue is just the weather. Chapped lips are normal and flaky skin is no rare thing. Just get a lip balm and moisturizer and you're good to go. Hope this helps. smile.gif


Added on January 18, 2011, 8:55 pm
QUOTE(haya @ Jan 18 2011, 06:20 PM)
You should be able to. There should at least be a phone line. As long as you're with Telstra it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Do note that some suburbs are Optus/APPT only, and generally you'll be limited to them and the ISP's that resell from Optus/AAPT.

For example, I have friends who stay in suburbs where the copper is actually owned by Optus. Poor guy can't get Exetel as his ISP cause Exetel only resells Telstra wholesale.

You'd be surprised how internet avaliablity and choices can influence where you rent.
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Wow! I see, but in Adelaide since it's pretty small compared to places like Sydney and Melbourne shouldn't have that much of a problem I guess. Actually I'm not sure which would be better, renting a house with friends or buying a house then renting it out to my friends.

*My mom wanted to buy a house in the suburbs then probably when I leave for Sydney or wherever to work, sell it off. What do you think? Because I don't intend to stay at Urbanest for long.. 5 months contract is all I want. Don't intend to stay longer than that. =)

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post Jan 19 2011, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(SRLee @ Jan 19 2011, 02:17 PM)
Malaysia's PR is unobtainable as far as I know. So I cannot live in Malaysia anymore and I cannot practice in Malaysia.

The most important thing to note is that I've never been to Australia. I came back when I was only 2-months-old.

I want to travel to Australia to get a feel, but I can't find any places of interest (maybe the Great Barrier Reef). It seems that Australia is a boring place.

Yeah I'm going to take A-Level in Malaysia. After that, if my results are excellent, then maybe I would take up Australian citizenship.
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Yeah... to actually obtain a PR in Malaysia is close to impossible therefore making them HIGHLY valuable.

Actually, in my opinion, if it comes to giving up your Malaysian passport, you have to look beyond now.

And yes, I mean education...not yours. Your childrens'!! Alot of people migrate to Australia for the sake of their kins education. Even you know the price difference between locals there and international students. Education in Australia is good compared to Malaysia and well, if you want your children studying there, act now!

Even for you, you'd pay cheaper for your education right now. I'm sure in Australia there're interesting places to visit and all. Malaysia is not exactly THAT fantastic. If you miss Malaysia, come in as a tourist. Bring your family, go for a holiday. smile.gif

If I were you, i'd go for the Australian passport. biggrin.gif Happy deciding bro! cool2.gif

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post Jan 19 2011, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(kakaakajes @ Jan 19 2011, 08:05 PM)
I actually dont agree completely. I mean yeah, alot of malaysians love to migrate overseas for the sake of better education, better like - thus obtaining PRs/citizenship overseas.
I dont know, but for me, I cant think that far, for my so-called "kids" and "family". Right now, after spending four years in Melbourne, I still cant feel at home and at peace at this place. I cant blend completely into the culture. What I see is that international students stick with each other, and local students look at intl students differently.
Basically what i am saying is that, unless one has been raised in a country for most of their life, it is very hard to really mix in and feel at home. For alot of PRs/intl students, they dont care if they can mix in with the locals anyway. They feel contented to just keep their social circles limited to intl students.

and besides, I dont think Australian primary/secondary educaton is all that great.
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that's true, one can only plan so much.

as for home and peace, different people will have different experiences, different personalities, one goes overseas and pay a bunch mostly for the experience which you will not be able to obtain back in your home. WHETHER they do grasp that experience, that's up to the individual. biggrin.gif

and well, being shunned by others depends as well; how sociable are you, how do you LOOK, how do you act around people. Not even talking about overseas, it even happens back here. Locals to locals. In class, some people are ignored, viewed differently, some are POPULAR.. lol..

Well whether it's great or not, i feel it still beats Malaysian education system hands down.. thumbup.gif
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post Jan 20 2011, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Jan 20 2011, 12:40 AM)
hey guys, just wondering.. it is ok if I bring my speaker + subwoofer in my luggage? will I have to declare anything at the airport? or is there any rules saying that i cant bring eloctronic device in my luggage?
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i'm bringing mine man! armageddon A5 .. biggrin.gif i'm gonna put it in the box and bring it with me. Don't think you need to declare that... =/
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post Jan 20 2011, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Jan 20 2011, 09:28 AM)
thanks! good to hear that!. can't live without loud music around me.  tongue.gif
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touche bro. as long as you don't exceed your weight limit it should be fine, haya actually posted on the first page what can and cannot be allowed into Australia. Have a read. The strict ones are mostly FOOD. And the soil part, just make sure your shoes and all are CLEAN... =D

i have 45kgs. how not to bring my sounds system? brows.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 07:50 PM

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hey guys, i'm thinking of getting the SIM ONLY plan by THREE. $35 a month...Do i need a bank statement for that or can it be obtained asap??
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(nhb555 @ Jan 23 2011, 11:34 PM)
well been here for few days and seriously i don think i can fit into the culture as well . They seems so relax which i don reli like . My hometown Bintulu a small place in Sarawak is more busy than Perth lol.. My dad came here for few days he said he will die if living is australia LOL ! .. it depends on ppl but i quite agree with my dad tat he said tat he use Malaysian Ringgit to let me study if i stay in Australia means we are giving our money free of charge to tat country . I think a lot of china ppl work here for few years and move bak to their country haha .. It all depends what kind of lifestyle u wan . But for me i think Malaysia is still the best coz is my hometown the place where i am born . I love Malaysia even though we have corrupted government but who cares ? At least is liveable and the corruption doesn affect our lifes anyway . Still a lot of ppl migrate coz of corrupted government but does tat reli affect how u live ? haha . Don't boom me a... I'm just giving my point of view  smile.gif
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i din quite get the part of your dad and malaysia ringgit man..you lost me there.. xD

which part of aussie are you in? i like relaxed culture!! not TOO relaxed but ...yeah...adequate.. ^^

and well, i THINK majority of the people migrate is for a better life and for their education or childrens.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Jan 23 2011, 11:57 PM)
I have checked the fees of getting a bachelor in Accounting degree in Monash Malaysia campus is about rm110k for full 3 year course. May I know how much is it to obtain the same degree in Clayton campus, Australia? Or roughly same kind of degree in other australian uni will do.

Also, I read that the lodging will be about A$180 per week. Can anyone also give me an estimate of other costs like food etc. basically, how much roughly to spend per year on food and lodging in australia? I am trying to see how much more expenisve it is to study in australian campus.

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first of all, for your course i think you can go to the university's website and check the course and pricing there. do some survey and research online bro. smile.gif or you can even email the counselors smile.gif

lodging.....well, that AUD$ 180 is probably for the first few months of your life man, after that you might move into another place with your mates and stuff. you know the place well, you might even stay maybe a "distance" from your campus as usually rents there are cheaper.

as for food, first off, you're in melbourne. living expenses there are pretty high compared to adelaide but i'm sure around universities there are food cafeterias and stuff where you can probably can a meal for less than $10. Again goes to what you eat and how much you eat. smile.gif i'd say put aside $20 a day for meals.


Added on January 24, 2011, 12:23 am
QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 24 2011, 12:20 AM)
previously i studied in Perth but yea indeed i found it is too relax for me hence i moved to Sydney... Im love city lifestyle because im used to hectic lifestyle in mas =)
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if your lifestyle in perth is relaxing...me heading to adelaide...i wonder.... =?


Added on January 24, 2011, 12:25 am
QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jan 24 2011, 12:11 AM)
I reckon yes, cos you're still signing up for a plan, just without the phone =) so you'll need a bank statement, and your passport =) and I think your visa too to see how long your stay in aus will be.
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alright, i don't get the bank statement part for this. cuz the SIM ONLY has no contract so I can terminate it anytime, they don't need a bank statement for that right? If i'm locking in 24 or 12 months, then yea, bank statement necessary. hmm, cuz someone told me that the bank will only provide a statement the following month, and I gotta request for one on the day I open a account and it'll take 1 week!! 1 week is pretty long to be depending on roaming charges from malaysia man... T_T

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post Jan 24 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(elainor @ Jan 24 2011, 12:26 AM)
lol... then its totally up to us i guess... keep searching for the best place to live with and a uni which provides better teaching... adelaide?? haha congratz mate =P
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haha! that congratz sounds sarcastic man! >< i'm not really into a happening kinda lifestyle, but as long as its not TOO dead... everyone keeps harping on how DEAD adelaide is. have you been there? is it really THAT dead?
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post Jan 24 2011, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Jan 24 2011, 07:39 AM)
The website says international students about A$32000 per year. Wow! I calculated food and lodging easily $A10k per year. This means about A$42000 per year. That is A$126k for full 3 years. In Malaysia, it is RM378k for total course compared to about RM130k if done in malaysia. Is that right? Quite a big difference!

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wow!! what course are you studying??! so expensive?! o.o

$20 a day x 30 = $600 a month for food.

$150 x 4 = $600 a month for rent

$1200 on expenses x 12 = $14400 a year.


well remember you can work part time too, so that'd probably cover ur food and maybe other stuff like your phone bill and all. Rents also depending whether utilities are included. biggrin.gif but i heard from most of my friends that in the beginning only the "x3" conversion of RM to $AUD would shock you. after a while you'd adjust and as you work part time and all, it won't be a big thing to you.

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Added on January 24, 2011, 3:13 pm
QUOTE(immabee @ Jan 24 2011, 03:03 PM)
Are you seriously joking that Bintulu is even more happening than Perth? Please don't freak me out. How about Perth vs Adelaide? Which city is more vibrant?
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i reckon perth is more vibrant man. I've not head of people saying that Perth is dead as often as they say about adelaide.... T_T

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post Jan 24 2011, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(groggy @ Jan 24 2011, 03:33 PM)
bachelor accounting monash uni is about A$32k per year right? that's what the website says for international students. Anybody can share other uni's course fees?

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u can check out

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/ and http://www.unisa.edu.au/


Added on January 24, 2011, 5:28 pm
QUOTE(ChaiLatte @ Jan 24 2011, 03:42 PM)
Student Visas approved after April 2008 allows students to work for 20 hours a week during term time and 40 hours non term time.

I wage aboue A$22/hour. I earn enough to cover my expenses excluding lodging plus some extra. I had some difficulties landing my first job as Australian employers have emphasis on experience.
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are u in sydney or melbourne bro? 22 per hour is alot! my friend in adelaide only gets paid 10 per hour. sighs...she says its hard to get a job and they look at your skin. Is that true?

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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Jan 24 2011, 08:51 PM)
hey guys. I just got back from pre-departure briefing. the MAS dude told us that we can't bring liquid stuffs that exceed 100ml in a bottle. max 1litre total of all bottles. how about cleanser? deodorant? I noticed mine are 150ml. :|
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bro i think they meant hand carry, my perfume, 170ml i had 3 bottles got them for christmas, they didn't stop me in my checked in luggage. lol
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post Jan 25 2011, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Jan 25 2011, 07:17 AM)
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if i put all my toiletries in my big luggage means it is ok right?
then I think I'll do the same. i got lot of liquid based stuffs though.  doh.gif

p/s: I never had any flight experience before  sweat.gif
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haha, yup! smile.gif why do u want to put your toiletries in your hand luggage anyways? = =

Usually liquid products like hair gel, or perfume, i'll just pack it in my checked in luggage. smile.gif never had any problems. haha...where're you flying to?
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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Jan 25 2011, 01:16 PM)
haha. sorry, first timer.  blush.gif

I'll be flying to brisbane on 14th of Feb. will enroll in QUT  smile.gif

i hope the aftereffect of the flood recently will not disrupt our orientation week though.
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hahaha....first timer? i'm happy for you. smile.gif brand new adventure for you man.

ah awesome.. biggrin.gif i'm flying to adelaide on 9th of Feb.

are you going with any friends? or solo?
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post Jan 25 2011, 03:24 PM

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haha...can take domestic flights offered by local airliners... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jan 25 2011, 04:17 PM)
No one's going to tassie? T.T sad place indeed. xD
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haha...is it colder in tasmania compared to adelaide since it's further south?
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QUOTE(haya @ Jan 25 2011, 07:18 PM)
I'll say this until I die: we should have kept Geography a compulsory subject until Form 5.

The utter lack of geographical knowledge of Malaysians never fails to astound me. At one end of the spectrum I once had someone ask when is it winter in Bangkok. Closer to home few people believe me that Sarawak larger in land area than Taiwan.

For the record the distance between Brisbane and Adelaide is almost the same distance as Penang-Kota Kinabalu, as the crow flies.

But I digress.

Re alip_11: QUT B.Education with the Malaysian Education Department? TESOL?
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haha, i agree with you but you shouldn't say MalaysianS. Not all malaysians are bad in geography. I bet there are some aussies too that won't know whether it snows in India or not. =D
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QUOTE(haya @ Jan 25 2011, 09:16 PM)
1) True. I never said Australians were any better at Geography. But you cannot extrapolate an outlier to justify the trend. Overwhelmingly Malaysians have a poor grasp of places both domestic and international. I believe that makes it a plural.

Its not limited to the "big scale". Try giving directions in Malaysia.

2) For the record it does snow in India. Remember, like Australia, India is a big country. Sure it may be very wet in Queensland and Victoria, but its bloody dry in WA.
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haha...gosh you're making me despise malaysian citizens.. xD

so true! giving directions is like teaching a dog how to fly. they just don't get it.. = =" and I had one experience of that recently.


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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Jan 26 2011, 02:19 PM)
those in Adelaide.

refer this for place. smile.gif

http://adelaide.gumtree.com.au/c-Unit-Hous...QAdIdZ256500123
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the price is $350 per month?? o.o

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