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 Studying in Australia (V 3.1), Please use proper English

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post Mar 1 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Mar 1 2012, 11:06 AM)
A ball park budget of aud1600/month shd suffice. If opting for a residential college with 3 meals/day, with utilities etc, look to lay about 400-425 a week.
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Too late if that guy already left for college!

Depends on city, it can be as low as $350 per week at a catered residential hall and that covers a, b, and e. c depends on need, d depends on usage, f heavily depends on lifestyle - why would you want to buy clothes overseas though? Unless you were going somewhere (where they could be cheaper) such as England.


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post Mar 1 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Mar 1 2012, 01:32 PM)
What do you mean by "too late"? There are residential colleges in most unis.
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If he had intended for school starting Semester 1 2012 then any budgeting info would have come too late.

Also it depends on which college he goes to (if he hadn't got into one already) as most have early deadlines and competitive admissions.
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post Mar 1 2012, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Mar 1 2012, 02:53 PM)
Some places will open up last minute, and I know some halls and colleges have some rooms still, even though the semester has started. Some who reserved places, have opted for alternative accommodation arrangements. Hope the info was required for future planning and reference.
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Oddly enough, some popular halls inevitably end up taking in kids who were "rejected" (by screwing up or failing to get into others). So not everyone diligently applies before deadlines, but they still can get in. But this might not be the case everywhere. Planning is advised.
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post Mar 2 2012, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Mar 2 2012, 07:43 AM)
Really? Which popular halls, and in which universities? This is quite interesting. You will fail to get into a place in the Uni res halls and colleges if you fail to get into the university. If already a resident, you may be asked to leave for disciplinary issues or academic problems. If you are a new student, it's not that difficult to get into a residential hall or college if you manage to get a place in that Uni.
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What do you want me to say? The rules are different everywhere. Even if most attend the university, not 100% of residents need be students of that university, depending on who owns the hall or what their rules are. And I was referring to new and returning residents both.

When did disciplinary or academic issues come in? Those are valid statements but hardly relevant to our discussion. I'm talking about failing to properly apply for a place, and still getting in to another hall which one did not apply to/initially intend to go to.
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post Mar 2 2012, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Mar 2 2012, 09:03 AM)
You said "screwing up". How do would- be first years screw up?  It's not rocket science to apply to halls/ residences.
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How would I know? Neglect? Indifference? I sure as hell didn't screw up.
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post Mar 5 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 5 2012, 12:06 PM)
Does this apply to campuses outside the city like Clayton? Also if I go for one semester, an exchange from Monash Sunway to Monash Clayton, I will be landing smack in summer and staying until winter which means I will need clothes there  ohmy.gif


Added on March 5, 2012, 12:09 pm

This made me smile. I'm also a clean freak with mild OCD so I will drive people bonkers. I'm planning to stay alone if funds allow smile.gif
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If you are going to Clayton, and if residential halls for Monash students exist there, check rates and you'll know. Surely they have websites which are linked to the university website.
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post Mar 5 2012, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(secondrate @ Mar 5 2012, 04:43 PM)
WAH! Very nice!
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Pricing?
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post Mar 18 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(xcullen @ Mar 18 2012, 02:14 PM)
My cost living in Melb so far biggrin.gif

a) Accommodation - rent a room $100/week (Include bills and internet)
b) Transport - $100 per month
c) Communications - $54 per month
e) Utilities - Included in rents
f) Others - Clothes at least $50 per month, movies $30 per month. Food (Cook) - $100/month

1 month = 4 weeks
Total: $734

happy.gif Save money, go travel.
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Legend... lots of people spend at least AUD 1400 a month on just basic requirements, before the extras (entertainment, movies, snacks, clothes, health-related supplies). But of course the number who spend less than that are far more... how you keep your rent that low is almost unbelievable (relative to everything else).
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post Mar 20 2012, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Mar 20 2012, 04:42 PM)
Still trying to figure out the increasing popularity of Foundation in Science. I still think SAM and AUSMAT would be better pre-U courses, if one is Aus-bound.
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A Level or IB would not be a poor choice if one could afford the extra time, which would be 100% unless one accelerated their A Levels.

Although, Australian Pre-Us are after all more in line with Australian schooling than primarily international Pre-Us, and whether or not this is advantageous for an Australian university education, they would do the job as TER requirements for most courses aren't that high.
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post Mar 28 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(Mind.Instinct @ Mar 28 2012, 11:12 AM)
Thanks dude, did u guys meet with the representatives from University before application?
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That's not necessary. You can apply on your own and it would be straightforward.
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post Apr 2 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(FoxNope @ Apr 2 2012, 11:18 PM)
For Perth.

a) Accomodation : $130 per week per room (Malaysian kinda area)
b) Food : $200 (if eat out) (home cooking: -30%)
c) Transport : $15 Travel to Uni 4 days a week
d) Communications- H/p : $29 (lowest cap per month)
e) Utilities- Electricty, Internet : rent included (only if you rent a room)
f)  Others  eg entertainment, clothing,etc : what kind? Range $50 - $1k

Hope this help.
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Nice low rent, covers utilities too. Very far away from school? Looks like it's so cheap to stay in Perth in the manner you do.
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post Apr 23 2012, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Apr 23 2012, 11:55 PM)
Great thread..useful for me to prepare my kids..!

Anyway, can anyone comment on how cheap is uni education for Australian PR holders as compared to international students? 50%? or even lower? cheers!
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Depends on the classes you take, and then if there is a discount or other form of payment help (HECS etc).

Without any of those, the basic fee for each (6 unit) class depends on the class. For example, at one of the cheaper Australian schools for internationals (ANU):

A random class in Philosophy, Law, Chem, Physics, Engineering, Psychology, Maths, Stats, Econ, and Finance each cost AUD 3414 for internationals (except for Phil which costs $2946), whereas domestic students pay 2550 for Phil and Law, $2676 for the five science classes, and $2946 for the last three.

For an international the total cost for a typical, non-overloaded year during 2012 is $27312. I believe at various universities in Melbourne and Sydney the cost will be several thousand greater.

As you can see it varies by a lot for domestics. As far as I can tell, those within Business & Economics are probably the most expensive because of over-subscription or high demand, whereas Philosophy and subjects like Physics face lower demand. Although it is strange that Law would cost the lowest amongst all these.
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post May 5 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(adjuster @ May 5 2012, 07:28 PM)
hi all,
i'm new to this thread.

i'm heading to ANU this July. smile.gif

I understand that it'll be winter... i'm quite worry as I never had any experience of winter season.

One more thing, is it possible for Malaysian (ANU student) to do internship in Aussie, particularly in Sydney?
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It is not very very cold in Australia... certainly not in the ACT... what I mean is the weather is certainly cold relative to Malaysia but not harsh like Canada, Russia etc. There will be times where a jacket or coat is useful but nothing to worry about.

An internship is possible (not everywhere because some firms require PR/Citizenship) but a good one is very hard to get if it exists.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 5 2012, 10:23 PM)
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you have obviously never been to act during winter.....
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Have you?

LOL

Different people have different tolerances. And it's not what the thermometer or internet says, it's how windy it is.


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QUOTE(adjuster @ May 6 2012, 12:48 AM)
hi there..
u are currently studying in ANU?
well as informed, i'l be heading there this July.

based on my reasearch ANU is drier and colder than melbourne, sydney...
so i'm quite worry of winter.. I have never experience winter..

any advice or tips?

Thanks
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Weather is very erratic. Seasons do not mean too much. Supposed to be warm, could be very cold, supposed to be cold, could be very warm.

Changes are sudden. Weather in a week can be very warm for a couple days and freezing the other days, whether it is spring, autumn, or winter.

Does rain sometimes, a small umbrella (which you can get here) can help. Or a waterproof jacket or coat.

And a jacket or coat for when it's windy. Otherwise normal clothes, or a pullover/sweater will suffice.

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post May 6 2012, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 6 2012, 03:01 AM)
it is wise, when having already made a mistake, not to dig deeper holes for oneself.....
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I thought I was speaking English.

Anyway instead of false criticism you may choose to enlighten those who ask legitimate questions with your extensive knowledge of Canberra's weather and climate.
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post May 14 2012, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 6 2012, 11:59 AM)
that is obviously wrong....act is in the mountains, on a highland plateau, and is always colder than the coastal cities....
i pointed out the mistake here....
instead of admitting, you decided to challenge.....
i advise you should just correct the mistake instead of attempting of digging bigger holes....
the actual temperatures is point out here....a simple google will have reveal that.....by no stretch of imagination can 0c be considered 'not very cold'.....
where is my criticism 'false'?.....

it is best, if one is not familiar, not to make comments.....
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Quite obviously you have never been to Canberra, or have never stayed for extended lengths of time. You merely present knowledge of geography and try to criticise others...

Colder than coastal cities, like Sydney, you say. What if I said Sydney was quite warm? Colder need only be a lower average temperature according to your notion that temperature is the main measure of "how cold a place is". That means is Canberra were 0.1C lower in its avg temp, it'd still be colder.

It's obviously colder at some times but not always... and I'm talking about cold as in how a person feels. A humid and sunny Canberra is warmer by a lot more than a windy and rainy Sydney, whatever season it is... take it from someone who knows.

Rather than spending time using metaphors about cavities, why not talk about something you actual have experience with or substantial knowledge about??

QUOTE(haya @ May 7 2012, 02:14 PM)
Member LightningFist, admit your mistake, and move on. This is not the place for you and limeuu to have your one-upmanship games.

Canberra is cold and dry during the winters, by almost any metric. Invest in a good skin moisturiser, and buy your winter clothing there. Cold and wet and cold and dry climates are quite different. but yes, the wind chill factor does add to the harshness.

An electric blanket for the nights would be a sound investment, and long johns for the times when its really windy and you really need to go out. Please don't be the typical M'sian who turns on the heater to full blast (assuming you can even afford it!) and sits around in shorts inside while its 10C outside!

2) Re. Internships: don't get your hopes too high. If you do get one good on you, but more likely than not you will not be able to get one, for the simple fact that you are limited to only working 20hrs/wk.

You may get some luck during the semester breaks, where you can work unlimited hours, but don't hold your breath.
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I would, had I made a mistake. In my opinion it's not as cold as everyone seems to believe... there are factors such as sunlight, wind velocity, pressure, and humidity to consider, not just temperature... all I meant was, it might be cold to some, but not at all most of the time for others. Winter is a very loose notion if you consider that "winter" like temperatures (temperatures typical of winter) are not uncommon at all during non-winter periods. Again cold and warm is relative.

Cold is relative, not absolute. It is the absence of warmth.

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