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 Studying in Australia (V 3.1), Please use proper English

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Noah's Ark
post Feb 9 2011, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(immabee @ Feb 8 2011, 07:13 AM)
Don't mind dropping such a dumb question. For all these years you guys have been going in and out from Australia, what food have you guys declared and brought in to Australia safely? =D
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More than 1 kg of Chinese Medicine, uncooked ikan bilis, salted fish, and some Penang local products. They're packed well. My family brought in almost every time we visited my sister in Australia.

Taken away by custom =/ Azuki bean


Added on February 9, 2011, 12:23 am
QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Feb 8 2011, 08:55 AM)
just arrived in aussie this morning. There was a tv cast at arrivals shooting a tv show on border security ^^"
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Where/what are you studying?

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post Feb 9 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(immabee @ Feb 8 2011, 10:13 PM)
Don't mind dropping such a dumb question. For all these years you guys have been going in and out from Australia, what food have you guys declared and brought in to Australia safely? =D
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From my experiences ....

PERMITTED

Japanese Green-Tee individually packed brought 100++ of these
Snicker Chocolates
Commercially packed black/white pepper
Maggi-Mee
Panadol
Strepsils


TAKEN BY CUSTOM

3 in 1 instant Coffee (because got dairy milk)


QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 8 2011, 10:55 PM)
All that is readable labels, even Sarawak Rice Wine & Tuak! laugh.gif
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For Tuak do you need to have a label for that?
Must the cap be sealed?
Thinking about bringing my mom's home-brew tuak

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post Feb 9 2011, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 8 2011, 10:55 PM)
All that is readable labels, even Sarawak Rice Wine & Tuak! laugh.gif
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You sure? Even made in Malaysia milo? Love Malaysian milo version better. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Noah's Ark @ Feb 9 2011, 12:23 AM)
More than 1 kg of Chinese Medicine, uncooked ikan bilis, salted fish, and some Penang local products. They're packed well. My family brought in almost every time we visited my sister in Australia.

Taken away by custom =/ Azuki bean


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shocking.gif . What you meant Chinese medicine are dry herbs such as dong guai, red dates, American ginseng etc? Salted fish and ikan bilis they also let? Unbelievable



QUOTE(december88 @ Feb 9 2011, 12:28 AM)
From my experiences ....

PERMITTED

Japanese Green-Tee individually packed brought 100++ of these
Snicker Chocolates
Commercially packed black/white pepper
Maggi-Mee
TAKEN BY CUSTOM

3 in 1 instant Coffee (because got dairy milk)
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Phew at least my mom doesn't need to worry. It will be alright as long as we tick declare right? Do you guys have gone through any treatment on your food products by the customs? How about biscuits? I believe they also do contain dairy milk.
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post Feb 9 2011, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(immabee @ Feb 8 2011, 10:43 AM)
You sure? Even made in Malaysia milo? Love Malaysian milo version better.  biggrin.gif
shocking.gif . What you meant Chinese medicine are dry herbs such as dong guai, red dates, American ginseng etc?  Salted fish and ikan bilis they also let? Unbelievable
Phew at least my mom doesn't need to worry. It will be alright as long as we tick declare right? Do you guys have gone through any treatment on your food products by the customs? How about biscuits? I believe they also do contain dairy milk.
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Yup. They were commercially packed well and we declared. Herbs, biscuits (w/o eggs), fish and seafood products were allowed, special conditions applied. http://www.daff.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_f...tcanti_take.pdf

Yes, it will be alright as long as you TICK declare.
Food products which are not allowed to bring in Australia, the custom will just take them away, they will not fine you.


Added on February 9, 2011, 2:25 am
QUOTE(zeke'stah @ Feb 8 2011, 06:46 AM)
hey guys!! leaving for adelaide tomoro night.  just wanna check again... I DON'T NEED TO DECLARE ANYTHING RIGHT?!!  i am bringing NO FOOD at all.
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You need to declare if you bring in any medicine, cash more than a certain amount, alcohol and more.

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post Feb 9 2011, 02:35 AM

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Im thinking of bringing some anchovies and fried shallot that are prepared by mom. Is it possible to bring them in?
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post Feb 9 2011, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(lawl @ Feb 8 2011, 11:35 AM)
Im thinking of bringing some anchovies and fried shallot that are prepared by mom. Is it possible to bring them in?
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If your fried shallot is packed commercially with description like this should be alright :
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Buy a pack of fried shallow, and declare it. Most processed food (w/o meat, eggs, dairy) will get through. They aren't expensive, so you can have a try, just remember to DECLARE.

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is it possible to bring milo fuze 3 in 1?

it contains Skimmed Milk Powder, Malt Extract (contain barley)
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QUOTE(kavan @ Feb 8 2011, 12:00 PM)
is it possible to bring milo fuze 3 in 1?

it contains Skimmed Milk Powder, Malt Extract (contain barley)
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It's prohibited. You should be able to buy 3 in 1 Milo in Australia. doh.gif

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post Feb 9 2011, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(Noah's Ark @ Feb 9 2011, 12:23 AM)
Where/what are you studying?
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Finance and International Business in UQ ^^

ah I'm not used to it getting bright so early ahaha well time to start working on things


QUOTE(kavan @ Feb 9 2011, 03:00 AM)
is it possible to bring milo fuze 3 in 1?

it contains Skimmed Milk Powder, Malt Extract (contain barley)
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if it has milk in it, it won't get through.


Added on February 9, 2011, 6:52 am
QUOTE(zeke'stah @ Feb 8 2011, 09:46 PM)
hey guys!! leaving for adelaide tomoro night.  just wanna check again... I DON'T NEED TO DECLARE ANYTHING RIGHT?!!  i am bringing NO FOOD at all.
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They will give you a card like this
http://www.evisastoaustralia.com/section06/customs.pdf
on the plane. You can see the questions there, if you have anything among them just tick yes. If you tick no and are caught you will be fined. If you are not sure on one of the questions just tick yes.

If you brought something but don't want to declare it they have a bin around the area you pick up your luggage right before quarantine for you to throw away anything you don't want to declare.

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QUOTE(haya @ Feb 8 2011, 05:48 PM)
Believe me, its a lot more common than you think. Back when I helped greet students from the airport I would know they were stuck when they didn't come out 2 hours after their flight landed. Invariably they were almost all Asians, and their English was questionable at best. I've had scenes where they think Quarantine is denying them their "right" to pork meat. They're trying to get their point by shouting in Mandarin and everyone's flustered.

I will admit it is hardly the best way to be welcomed to Australia, which is why I wrote what I wrote in the front page.

I can't put it any simpler. If you're going to bring fresh food, DECLARE the damn things. If they confiscate them, so be it. That is the reality of coming to Australia both as a tourist and a student. You can call it protectionism; the farmers call it pragmaticism. 

There is little point asking us, because:
1) There is a link in the front page to AQS stating what can and can't be brought into Australia.
2) It really is a case by case basis. Sometimes my achar comes in, sometimes it doesn't. Luck of the draw. As I said, they're not very consistent.

On the other hand, I understand the pain of having your tea leaves, them herbs, birds nest, your grandmothers rendang, et al, confiscated. So don't bring them, or bring in small quantities. If they get through fine, if not, move on as a human.

I mean, if you want to come to Australia, and I know I'll sound like Pauline Hanson, try the local cuisine.

Endnote: Border Security is awesome. Seven consistently gets high rankings when they broadcast a new season. Get digital TV to catch up on the older episodes.

See also: http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2876988.htm
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thumbup.gif , as if you can't live without them products right ?
If they take your stuff then let it be , arguing won't solve it. Just like in the video doh.gif

QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Feb 8 2011, 11:55 PM)
just arrived in aussie this morning. There was a tv cast at arrivals shooting a tv show on border security ^^"
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Probably these people

QUOTE(Shooterz @ Feb 8 2011, 01:14 PM)
My QUT's lecturer share this with us laugh.gif


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post Feb 9 2011, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Shooterz @ Feb 9 2011, 09:29 AM)
thumbup.gif , as if you can't live without them products right ?
If they take your stuff then let it be , arguing won't solve it. Just like in the video  doh.gif
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You'd be surprised. I know people who choose to live far out from the city and the university simply because its close to a suburb with a high concentration of Asians (Sunnybank in Brisbane). There are genuinely people who truly can't live without their Asian food and grocery stores.

These people live in their own bubble, almost never interacting with the wider society, read Chinese newspapers, watch Chinese Satellite TV, it makes you wonder why they're even here to begin with. At the risk of sounding like a One Nation member, if you love your Asian food, culture and life so much, go back to Asia to live it to the fullest.

I don't mind the odd Asian meal, and in many ways my palate is still rather Asian, but I rarely step into an Asian supermarket. That, and I can't comprehend most of the Asian snacks which are so loved by students to munch on over assignments. I'll take my Tim Tams thanks.

The point is to declare your food. You can bring in 2 suitcases full of food, as long as you tick "yes" in the customs form that is given to you prior to landing. No one will fine you if you declare, and even if you have no food and tick "yes". All they will do is just take it away if it is not allowed. Move on as a people.

Which part of "If in doubt, tick yes" do people not comprehend?

I love how the Malaysian "investment banker" tried to plead ignorance (at least he was honest) and ask for a reduced fine. Meritocracy means everyone is treated equally before the law. You cannot have one rule for first timers and another for serial veterans.
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QUOTE(haya @ Feb 9 2011, 10:05 AM)
I love how the Malaysian "investment banker" tried to plead ignorance (at least he was honest) and ask for a reduced fine. Meritocracy means everyone is treated equally before the law. You cannot have one rule for first timers and another for serial veterans.
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IMO, he is a disgrace to all Malaysian. He is supposedly the cream of Malaysian society being well traveled, well educated, knowledgeable, ethical etc for being an "investment banker" so how can he plead ignorance? If this supposedly cream of Malaysian society can be so stupidly ignorance, what is he trying to imply? The rest of us are dirt? I wouldn't feel so hurt if he just declare himself as a office boy instead.


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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 9 2011, 10:59 AM)
IMO, he is a disgrace to all Malaysian. He is supposedly the cream of Malaysian society being well traveled, well educated, knowledgeable, ethical etc for being an "investment banker" so how can he plead ignorance? If this supposedly cream of Malaysian society can be so stupidly ignorance, what is he trying to imply? The rest of us are dirt? I wouldn't feel so hurt if he just declare himself as a office boy instead.
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don't you think he was behaving exactly like how most msians behave when encountered by the police after a traffic offence.......i was almost waiting for him to offer 'incentive not to fine me'........ smile.gif luckily he is smart enough not to........if he did, he would face a JAIL sentence..........

he thinks oz is like msia...... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(haya @ Feb 9 2011, 10:05 AM)
You'd be surprised. I know people who choose to live far out from the city and the university simply because its close to a suburb with a high concentration of Asians (Sunnybank in Brisbane). There are genuinely people who truly can't live without their Asian food and grocery stores.

These people live in their own bubble, almost never interacting with the wider society, read Chinese newspapers, watch Chinese Satellite TV, it makes you wonder why they're even here to begin with. At the risk of sounding like a One Nation member, if you love your Asian food, culture and life so much, go back to Asia to live it to the fullest.

I don't mind the odd Asian meal, and in many ways my palate is still rather Asian, but I rarely step into an Asian supermarket. That, and I can't comprehend most of the Asian snacks which are so loved by students to munch on over assignments. I'll take my Tim Tams thanks.

The point is to declare your food. You can bring in 2 suitcases full of food, as long as you tick "yes" in the customs form that is given to you prior to landing. No one will fine you if you declare, and even if you have no food and tick "yes". All they will do is just take it away if it is not allowed. Move on as a people.

Which part of "If in doubt, tick yes" do people not comprehend?

I love how the Malaysian "investment banker" tried to plead ignorance (at least he was honest) and ask for a reduced fine. Meritocracy means everyone is treated equally before the law. You cannot have one rule for first timers and another for serial veterans.
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Ironically, the first rule of this thread on page 1 would be 100% appropriate for the Malaysian couple laugh.gif

Yes, there are a lot of people that tends to just keep to their own small community and try to keep interaction with local Aussies to a minimum. It is one thing to have preferences to your own culture, we are all more comfortable with our own kind anyway, and i believe i am saying this both ways too (locals would prefer hanging out with locals). But to refuse to even know or experience other's culture especially when u are abroad, is just doh.gif Living in their own bubble is the exact term. Though in their defense, the jump from kampung life to an Australian City is just too big of a culture shock as compared to us who are exposed to western cultures from TVs and restaurants in the big cities/towns. Those kampung people from China are really really kept out from the outside world.

We go to other's country with the so-called "gaining experience outside" motives in our heads. But it beats the purpose if you still insist on having the lifestyle of your kampung back in Malaysia. One of the reason why i rarely bring in food when i enter OZ. 1 is because of the hassle of declaring, 2nd is because i simply can eat whatever i find here. I only visit asian groceries for 5 minutes every Sunday to check if the Kari Maggi is in stock or not coz i love that flavour tongue.gif. Other than that most of my groceries are bought from Woolworths or Coles. I certainly dont crave whatever herbal tea that i need to bring in 10 packs of them with only mandarin labels on the packaging. flat white is fine for me biggrin.gif

As for the border patrol, they are fined for not declaring, thats all. Not for bringing too much food, not for bringing in prohibited materials, and certainly not for trying to defend their rights to eat pork sweat.gif "i forgot it was inside" and "i am ignorant" is 2 of the lamest excuse i have ever heard. Might as well say "I dont know what the hell is 'FOOD'". The fact that the 2nd couple bring all food and none clothing says it all. Shame on their son/daughter who requested for these things, coz i just cant see any other reason for 2 elderly couple to bring such big and variety amount of food into the country.

But oh well. One of those weird and odd cases in this world filled with people of all kinds and sort laugh.gif


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Yes, there are Malaysian student that study, eat, sleep, sh*t together all the time while overseas. Pretty stupid things to do.


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hey can anyone here give me a rough estimate on monthly utility bills(electricity and water) amount in VIC. Amounts with usage of heater and without would be appreciated
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Feb 9 2011, 12:15 PM)
Ironically, the first rule of this thread on page 1 would be 100% appropriate for the Malaysian couple laugh.gif

You will be amazed how many times Malaysians plead ignorance in Malaysian courts. As if they can get away with it simply by not knowing the facts.
QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Feb 9 2011, 12:15 PM)
Though in their defense, the jump from kampung life to an Australian City is just too big of a culture shock as compared to us who are exposed to western cultures from TVs and restaurants in the big cities/towns. Those kampung people from China are really really kept out from the outside world.

I can understand notion of culture shock if you're from the sticks, but I have seen my fair share of people who are from big cities by any metric (Beijing, Shenyang, Shanghai, Taipei, Seoul, Kuala Lumpur), and the bubble is still their world.

This is not to say "big city people" do not have culture shock, but I find Asians rather bad in trying to integrate into ANY society but their own.

QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Feb 9 2011, 12:15 PM)
As for the border patrol, they are fined for not declaring, thats all. Not for bringing too much food, not for bringing in prohibited materials, and certainly not for trying to defend their rights to eat pork  sweat.gif "i forgot it was inside" and "i am ignorant" is 2 of the lamest excuse i have ever heard. Might as well say "I dont know what the hell is 'FOOD'". The fact that the 2nd couple bring all food and none clothing says it all. Shame on their son/daughter who requested for these things, coz i just cant see any other reason for 2 elderly couple to bring such big and variety amount of food into the country.
Its not just a fine. Read Quarantine Act (with Section 4AA of the Crimes Act) and you see they have the power to bring the fine up to $AUD66,000 or 10 years imprisonment.

I can think of better ways to spend $220, the minimum fine that can be imposed.
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QUOTE(homie @ Feb 9 2011, 03:43 PM)
hey can anyone here give me a rough estimate on monthly utility bills(electricity and water) amount in VIC. Amounts with usage of heater and without would be appreciated
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350 for 3 month - 4 people- water/electricity.

to tell you the truth, cost of utilities currently on hike.

compared to 6 month ago.
shocking.gif
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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Feb 9 2011, 04:44 PM)
350 for 3 month - 4 people- water/electricity.

to tell you the truth, cost of utilities currently on hike.

compared to 6 month ago.
shocking.gif
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i heard water is quite expensive there. but now flood dont know wether the rate will come down
by the way do you use heater during winter?
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Hey guys,

I'm currently doing A-levels and wish to pursue a mechanical engineering degree in MelbourneUni in 2012. My question is:

Apparently MelbourneUni works differently from other universities in which students get a bachelor of XXXX major in XXXX. So let's say I want to get a simple degree like Bachelor of Mechanical Engineering, I can't do that in MelbUni like I could in UK ..etc? How many years would it take if I were to do a Bachelor in Science majoring in Mechanical? In UK, a 4Year MEng would get me a Masters in Mechanical. How long would it take for me to complete the course in MelbUni to obtain an equivalent qualification?

Thanks

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