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TSsohkeong
post Jan 7 2010, 06:38 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hmm.. not sure all the sifu here aware or not.. unlike all other investment research group (e.g OSK , kenanga , HwangDBS, maybank , HLB etc...)

i notice CIMB research news always have a very strong influence on the market price

E.g

L&G : CIMB posted that L&G current price is way undervalued . they suppose to be priced at 70 - 80cent.. immediately the next day L&G price up >20% and top volume of the day

Rubber counter : CIMB once quoted that rubber will rally until CNY... and till today rubber counter rocks. (they clearly highlight on supermx and top glove).

actually has alot more of news..


P/S : any of forummer can share the link to "offline" CIMB research news? and TP pricing?? thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 06:41 PM

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post Jan 7 2010, 08:41 PM

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Newton..>>I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people..XD Got money and news everyone goes after the same counter, not too bad if u think of it. laugh.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 08:54 PM

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this is wat we call "bull effect ma" just close eyes and CHIONG ARRR!!
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post Jan 7 2010, 10:30 PM

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Who need TA and FA when all we need to do is pick up a copy of their research. Provided that you're not the last one reading it... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 7 2010, 10:31 PM

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no la..when the news out, all the "big" guys already finished accumulating and waiting for us (small ikan bilis) to bid in high price only
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post Jan 8 2010, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(sohkeong @ Jan 7 2010, 10:31 PM)
no la..when the news out, all the "big" guys already finished accumulating and waiting for us (small ikan bilis) to bid in high price only
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Ya. That's what likely to happen. lol.

You look at the earnings and the PE multiples first la before buying a share. Can see CIMB's target multiples are high and they pegged it to CY11 forecasts. So higher risk.


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post Jan 8 2010, 02:51 PM

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Someone mentioned Proprietary Trading.

Look it up in Wikipedia.

The process is likewise: Bank A says Company XYZ is a good buy, gives good valuation and TP. Bank A then uses its own $$$ to buy up the shares of Company XYZ and at the same time drives up the price. Investors will then take notice and ride the boat for Company XYZ sending the shares higher. Bank A then sells the shares, pockets a large profit and those who came in late are left with losses.

So....be careful when you trade this way. smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2010, 11:50 PM

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be fast lo next time...lol

ride on the boat in the middle of the day....then earn profit at the end of the day....

so we are earning 1/2 of wat those "big" fish earning...
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post Jan 10 2010, 09:20 PM

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maybe we can interprete investment research group report like this:
1) strong buy call = can follow buy sikit sikit play play brows.gif
2) Hold = time to sell sweat.gif
3) sell call = it's too late to sell cry.gif /either become long time holder

IMO, quite true
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post Jan 10 2010, 11:15 PM

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CIMB force sell all LCL MD's share then post positive research about LCL, guess what?
the price of LCL shoot up 100%.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 11 2010, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(IGax2000 @ Jan 10 2010, 09:20 PM)
maybe we can interprete investment research group report like this:
1) strong buy call = can follow buy sikit sikit play play  brows.gif
2) Hold = time to sell  sweat.gif
3) sell call = it's too late to sell  cry.gif /either become long time holder

IMO, quite true
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LOL... sweat.gif sweat.gif


QUOTE(sjz @ Jan 10 2010, 11:15 PM)
CIMB force sell all LCL MD's share then post positive research about LCL, guess what?
the price of LCL shoot up 100%.. tongue.gif
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thats y lo... this is wat my topic is all about.. so anyone who have CIMB research "offline" report link??
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post Jan 11 2010, 12:59 PM

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we still need the report for reference, especially on how they valuate the company. next time we can do it our self tongue.gif
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post Jan 12 2010, 12:43 AM

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other investment company report can be as reference / benchmarking.. but CIMB's reference really influence the market badly
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post Jan 12 2010, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(sohkeong @ Jan 12 2010, 01:43 AM)
other investment company report can be as reference / benchmarking.. but CIMB's reference really influence the market badly
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do they have a prop desk? may be that 's the reason

also, most remisiers in town follow their research
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post Jan 12 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(audi8 @ Jan 12 2010, 09:14 PM)
do they have a prop desk? may be that 's the reason

also, most remisiers in town follow their research
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Can their investment house challenge PM?
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post Jan 12 2010, 10:15 PM

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CIMB today talk about plantation. But not moving.
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post Feb 21 2010, 08:41 PM

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Well, as CIMB currently backed by government . Maybe all the news was directed by the government ?? they wanna earn so duit kopi kua

 

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