
3D Technology, Come n share
3D Technology, Come n share
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Nov 3 2010, 11:09 PM
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XpandD is the World’s First Universal 3D Glasses already sell at amazon just for USD108 (very cheap compare to other branded 3D glasses). This glasses will be compatible with most computer monitors and 3D TVs, as well as all cinemas currently using XpanD's technology. Very interesting huh.
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Nov 6 2010, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 4 2010, 02:16 PM) It's useful if you have multiple 3D projectors, HDTVs and monitors of different brands. Or if you just like to watch 3D content at stores all the time. Other than that, not very useful. I mean it interesting in term of price and compatibility. Meanwhile, Philips is launching the 3D version of its 2.35 HDTVs. That actually makes more sense than standard HDTVs since the screen is bigger, which means it will be more immersive. Hopefully the graphics processor that handles the upconversion is up to the task for 3D decoding. fuad |
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Nov 6 2010, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(chokia @ Nov 6 2010, 06:14 PM) Hiyo like uncle la so ugly Why need fashion because we just use this at home. Fashion came with price bro. Tell you what why dont we go high tech in high fashion ..... |
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Nov 7 2010, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(chokia @ Nov 6 2010, 11:30 PM) No the CK one you can use it outdoor like normal sunglasses and it costs USD180 available in December 2010 Hahaha is it a joke or facts. The fact is malaysian cinema did't using active glass at all. All 3D movie using Dolby 3D passive glass. And we can watch Tron 3D in Cinema (not at home) this december 17 ![]() Just tell the cinema staff, "Sorry i dont wear public 3d glasses causing allergy problem, you can keep yours, mine made by CK" If you said like that to cinema staff than they will laugh at you. |
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Nov 7 2010, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(chokia @ Nov 7 2010, 10:04 PM) Of coz it was a joke. but use it as normal sunglasses outdoor is not I don't understand what your question actually. But for you info, current 3DTV only can be view with active glass to get 3D effect and basically it using stereoscopic technique. Passive glass like anaglyph glass or polarize glass cannot be use with it.Tell me if you have 3Dtv at home the CK glass doesnt work? Or still need to use your uncle Dolby 3D passive glass? |
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Nov 9 2010, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(chokia @ Nov 9 2010, 12:29 AM) So you are saying with Normal HDTV there is no way to watch in 3D? Watch 3D in our cinema is just watch fake 3D. If some scene in the movie playing at a dark/night, I cannot see 3D effect at all.Anyway i watched Avatar 3D and Avatar Extended 3D in 3D cinema few months ago, how come there BD version not available yet? Like writesimply told before, our cinema need to use silver screen to make 3D effect more stunning. Maybe we'll have to boycott 3D movie in cinema until they do something about their screen. This post has been edited by minimize: Nov 9 2010, 08:24 PM |
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Nov 14 2010, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 14 2010, 12:29 AM) You might wanna have your eyes looked at. Especially before Tron Legacy, since most of that film will be light and dark. It's not about the contrast between light and dark scenes. Each 3D installation has its own convergence setting. The projectionist can set it by himself but usually it's best not to meddle with it since it would have been calibrated beforehand. While I do notice the lack of depth is more prevalent in the morning show times than afternoons and evenings (the digital projector could be slow to warming up), each 3D film will ALWAYS have a sense of depth in any given scene. you just have to know where to look. In the case of Sammy's Adventures, it's everywhere! Computer generated movies (animation film) have an advantage in 3D because all objects on the screen can be perfectly in focus 100% of the time. |
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Nov 16 2010, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 14 2010, 11:09 PM) .... Actually that's not my point. And sounds like you didn't see THAT movie. Sammy's Adventure, while having a decent story, suffered from a bad case of stereography. The director of photography should have guided the audience into seeing what we should be concentrating on instead of having our eyes wander everywhere in the frame. That movie is the first 3D movie that gave me a buzz. ..... For your experience what best 3D non-animated movie? From my experience, animated 3D movie produce best 3D effect compare to non-animated. Not sure it is just mine or other people also experience the same. |
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Nov 16 2010, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 16 2010, 03:50 AM) It depends on what you mean by "animated". Technically speaking, Avatar is mostly live action performances; the CGI was used to replace the actors but the face and their body movement is theirs. Tangled and Tron is not release yet in Malaysia? How you experience it? I thought G-Force was a good, mostly non-animated, movie. And it was a 3D conversion. EDIT: Forgot that I saw 20-minutes of Tron Legacy. The best 3D non-animated (mostly) movie for now. Best 3D animated is Tangled. fuad |
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Nov 18 2010, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 18 2010, 09:48 AM) Just tried SONY 3D TV yesterday at Empire Gallery...not sure which model...but there seems to be some problem...still can see double images of some smaller fish swimming...other parts still ok. Panasonic 3D TV also got same problem. I still did't notice any problem on Samsung 3D TV.Is this normal?? It tried NVIDIA glasses and 3D monitor, they looked perfect when gaming....:hmmm:... |
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Nov 19 2010, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 18 2010, 10:46 PM) Yes, it is normal for current gen 3DTVs. I think the occurrence of ghosting depends on the content (encoding) as well as the 3DTV you play. It is not related to 3D BD players, if the player's firmware is up to date. Hope they used realD 3D technology instead of dolby 3D. So we'll have choice to select which one are better. It must be said that ghosting may not appear with 3D projectors with circular passive systems. But they're not the size you're looking for? I've seen ghosting in different spots across all the units I've seen so far. I'm also unfortunate enough to notice the shuttering effect of LCD glasses. On a separate topic, the Imax theater in Berjaya TS has been converted to a 3D digital theater. Still no word yet which 3D system they are going with. fuad |
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Nov 19 2010, 09:38 AM
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Nov 21 2010, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE Active Shutter Glass Technology vs Passive Glass in term of picture quality. Active Shutter Glass - Highest quality 3D image quality. The technology allows full frame 1080p images to be displayed for each eye. Passive Glass - Half-resolution image quality. Each eye sees only half of the vertical resolution of a 2D picture because both left eye and right eye images are contained in the same frame. Is it true, picture quality on active glass are better than passive glass? This post has been edited by minimize: Nov 21 2010, 10:48 PM |
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Nov 21 2010, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 21 2010, 11:32 PM) The quote is half-truth quote. If you're getting only half of vertical resolution, that means you're only getting 510 pixels out of 1080; I assume the horizontal resolution is still 920. There's only ONE 3D technology that does that - XPOL. Xpol uses circular polarization to deliver 3D so you use passive glasses. The difference is the TV/LCD monitor is an Xpol monitor where 510 pixels is showing you left eye content while the other 510 is showing you the right eye content. So far Xpol are used in professional playback monitors (the Thriller scene in This Is It when Michael and crew are watching 3D footage they just shot) as well as 23" PC monitors (you need a special 3D driver which they provide to play game and movies in 3D). So your opinion which one are better (PQ) between Active Shutter Glass and Passive Glass?The theory to make Xpol work as a Full HDTV is to double the vertical resolution so that the HDTV is now 1920 x 2160. The TV will take the 3D signal and convert it to 1920x1080 for each eye. 144Hz is the required minimum for the display, which is the same frequency as the RealD 3D in cinemas. QUOTE Meanwhile, we're still waiting for RealD to announce the products that will be using their Z-screen technology on flat screen LCDs/plasma/LEDs as well as projectors. Vizio already rolling out the first 3D TV with passive glass for US market. And it's not using RealD 3D or Dolby 3D. In house technology maybe. It price just USD3699 for 65inch LED screen. Quiet interesting huh This post has been edited by minimize: Nov 22 2010, 12:16 AM |
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Nov 22 2010, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 22 2010, 12:17 AM) You mean this Vizio TV? If you look at the tech specs it says: Yeah it Vizio TV. What a different between XPOL and RealD actually? I see JVC 3D TV using XPOL passive polarized panel and can be watch using RealD circular polarized passive glass. Xpol tech working here since Full HD 3D is not supported, but circular polarized glasses are. This post has been edited by minimize: Nov 22 2010, 01:07 AM |
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Nov 22 2010, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 22 2010, 02:01 AM) Both tech uses circular polarized glasses to view content correctly. That's where the similarity ends. This means, I can watch Xpol 3D TV with RealD glass right?... |
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Nov 27 2010, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 23 2010, 01:35 AM) From what I can tell, GSC Maxx is using linear polarization; if you rotate two of their glasses while looking at a light source, the glass will become dark at about 160-170 degrees. It's not circular polarization because my RealD glasses don't work. GSC Maxx using active glass? EDIT: I just saw pix of XpanD 3D glasses. The shape matches the one Maxx uses. It's just the color is yellow and for some reason, on each side the logo is a cheap looking "3D tech". Hopefully GSC is using a legit 3D solution. XpanD 3D is an active shutter glasses 3D system. ... Added on November 27, 2010, 12:54 pm QUOTE Big Cinemas go 3D New Active 3D cinema in Malaysia. 3D movies start playing this Nov25 in Batu Pahat Mall, Alor Star Mall, Taiping Sentral, Landmark Central Kulim & Brem Mall. 23 Nov – You will soon be able to watch 3D movies in BIG Cinemas Lotus Five Star outlets in Batu Pahat Mall, Alor Star Mall, Taiping Sentral, Landmark Central Shopping Mall Kulim and Brem Mall, announced the cinema chain yesterday. According to a press release, the Ultimate 3D technology combines both the Active 3D Glasses and the latest 4k upgradable series digital cinema projector across 10 of its screens. The selected Active 3D Glass series is said to use the electronic shutter technology which is able to deliver the brightest image with an efficiency rating 15% higher than Passive 3D Glasses which are commonly available in Malaysia. BIG Cinemas Lotus Five Star Chief Operations Officer Preetham Rebello was quoted as saying: "Cinemas have come a long way; from black and white movies, we now have high resolution and 3D presentation. With the emergence of new innovative technology, the cinematic experience is heightened and taken to a whole new level." The same source noted that despite using the latest 3D technology, they will charge the competitive market rate for a 3D movie (which is the price of the ticket and an additional RM5 for the rental of the glasses, said to cost RM200 per pair) and that the chain is confident moviegoers will be satisfied with the results of the new technology offered. This post has been edited by minimize: Nov 27 2010, 01:01 PM |
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Nov 27 2010, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(chokia @ Nov 27 2010, 02:15 PM) And while we are having endless discussion on 3D, LG is giving away almost RM10K worth of 3D gifts with their Infinia Borderless LED HD 3D tv package at Courts (including 6 pairs of 3D glasses and HTiB) You probably receive similar brochure in your mailbox today. LG want to introduce 3D TV with passive glass next year. That why it want to push to sell current model to customer right now. What you do think? |
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Nov 28 2010, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Nov 28 2010, 01:42 PM) ... You mean that 3D glass are Sony brand? As we know for active glass, only XpanD brand that has been use in cinema around the world right now.My worry is that this tech is a pirated tech. The glasses are not from XpanD but the shape and make matches. If XpanD finds out, Maxx has to be closed down until GSC gets original XpanD glasses. The reason why I believe it is a pirated tech is because of the vague statement in the press release. When GSC launched their first 3D hall, they mentioned Dolby 3D Digital specifically. They didn't do the same here. All they mentioned was "3D Tech" which, if you've seen the glasses yourself yourself, looks very cheap like a China-made OEM product trying to pass for a Sony. The silkscreen itself feels cheap. How about 3D quality compare with Dolby 3D? |
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Nov 29 2010, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 29 2010, 04:29 PM) I tried Panasonic Viera 3D TV at Jusco One-U yesterday...totally tak boleh jalan??? No difference at all with or without glasses. Somehow the set spoilt? The promoter never bother to check? I bet a lot more people will be anti-3D after watching that...coz it simply dun work!! I think it battery already dead or drain. They need to charge it every 8 hours. |
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