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Pioneer HTP-819SW, any comments?
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TSIntrigue
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 Dec 31 2009, 08:55 AM, updated 16y ago
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 hi guys..saw this setup at pioneer website. Is this HTIB good enough for a small room? Or is it overprice? Saw the RRP is RM3599 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Features
New Generation Audio Formats
•DTS-HD/Dolby TrueHD Decoders
Pioneer-Exclusive Innovations
•Phase Control (Bass Management system ensures precision low frequency output)
•Advanced MCACC setup with 9-band EQ
•Advanced Sound Retriever (for enhanced PC and portable audio)
•Front Stage Surround Advance
•Auto Level Control (Multi)
Superior Sound Quality
•Maximum power (6 ohms): 150W x 5ch + 200W subwoofer (RMS)
•Maximum power (6 ohms): 150W x 5ch
•Digital Core Engine with Texas Instruments Aureus DSP
•192KHz/24-bit DAC
Surround Sound Technologies
•DTS 96/24/DTS Neo:6/Dolby Digital Pro Logic IIx Decoders
•Sound Delay for adjusting Lip Sync (0.0-9.0 frames)
•Stream Direct (for pure and unprocessed digital sound)
Enhanced Convenience
•HDMI repeater (3 in/1 out), X. V. Colour, Deep Colour compatible
•iPod player digital direct via USB
•USB memory audio ready (USB Host function)
•Multi-Zone Audio (Zone 2)
Specifications
AV Receiver
·Power Spec 6, 1k, 1%THD: 130W
·ch: 5
·HD-Audio: Yes
·MCACC: Yes
·Phase Control: Yes
·ALC MULTI: 2ch
·Advanced Sound Retriever: 2ch
·HDMI Terminal (Total): 3/1
·Deep Color: Yes
·X. V. Color: Yes
·iPod Digital: Yes
·Works with iPhone: Yes
·USB: Yes
·AV (Composite) in/out: 3/1
·Audio in/out (Tuner included): 3/1
·Component in/out: 2/1
·Digital in/out: 3/-
·Multi-Zone: Zone 2
Front Speaker
·Unit: 18cm X 2, 2.5cm X 1
·Frequency Range: 20-60,000 Hz
·Impedance: 8Ω
·Speaker Terminal: Screw Type
·Dimension: 302.7 X 970 X 264.1mm
·Weight: 12.5kg
·Speaker Terminal: Screw Type
Centre & Surround Speaker
·Unit: 8cm X 2, 2cm X 1 (Centre SP), 8cm X 2, 2cm X 1 (Surround SP)
·Frequency Range: 10-20,000 Hz
·Impedance: 8Ω
·Speaker Terminal: Screw Type
·Dimension: 350 X 130 X 140mm (Centre), 130 X 180 X 140mm (Surround)
·Weight: 1.9kg (Centre), 1.1kg (Surround)
Active Subwoofer
·Max Power of Built In Amp: 200W
·Unit Size: 30cm
·Frequency Range: 27-1,000 Hz
·Preout: Yes
·Dimension: 360 X 437 X 455mm
·Weight: 15.2kg
And lastly, does it support blueray audio format? Because mainly i will be playing BD movie. |
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azbro
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Dec 31 2009, 09:02 AM
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I think you should post it in the Pioneer Forum. Can get more response there. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1215885Should be able to handle Bluray player since the specs mention DTS/DD HD and HDMI repeaters. Anyway, I think its overpowered for a small room, but you can always listen at lower volumes, furthermore, no need to upgrade for a while. Regarding the price, I think its pretty much Pioneer standard. This post has been edited by azbro: Dec 31 2009, 09:07 AM |
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sonerin
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Dec 31 2009, 09:25 AM
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I am using this. Is good for big room
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maskedchan
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Dec 31 2009, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 31 2009, 09:02 AM) I think you should post it in the Pioneer Forum. Can get more response there. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1215885Should be able to handle Bluray player since the specs mention DTS/DD HD and HDMI repeaters. Anyway, I think its overpowered for a small room, but you can always listen at lower volumes, furthermore, no need to upgrade for a while. Regarding the price, I think its pretty much Pioneer standard. listen at lower volume mean alot details cant be hear anymore... small room just get satellite speaker |
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driftmeister
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Dec 31 2009, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 31 2009, 09:02 AM) I think you should post it in the Pioneer Forum. Can get more response there. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1215885Should be able to handle Bluray player since the specs mention DTS/DD HD and HDMI repeaters. Anyway, I think its overpowered for a small room, but you can always listen at lower volumes, furthermore, no need to upgrade for a while. Regarding the price, I think its pretty much Pioneer standard. how small is small actually? my planned AV would be about 6ft deep x 10 ft long x 8/9ft high (depends on plaster ceiling) would that be too small? This post has been edited by driftmeister: Dec 31 2009, 11:05 AM |
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azbro
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Dec 31 2009, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Dec 31 2009, 11:05 AM) how small is small actually? my planned AV would be about 6ft deep x 10 ft long x 8/9ft high (depends on plaster ceiling) would that be too small? 6ft deep x 10 ft long x 8/9ft high? Considered small...but you can always lower the volume. |
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driftmeister
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Dec 31 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 31 2009, 12:10 PM) 6ft deep x 10 ft long x 8/9ft high? Considered small...but you can always lower the volume. just measured it's 8ft wide x 16 ft long x 8/9ft high something like this  This post has been edited by driftmeister: Dec 31 2009, 10:45 PM Attached thumbnail(s)
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sonerin
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Jan 1 2010, 08:03 AM
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with this size of the room is ok.
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echoesian
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Jan 1 2010, 11:11 AM
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There is a RM5599 set including Marantz AVR, Jamo S606 series speakers at Desa Home Theater.
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TSIntrigue
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Jan 7 2010, 09:14 PM
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thanks all for the comment. Sorry wasn't able to reply as was outstation.
By the way, a lilttle off topic.
I have 5 satellites from Logitech Z680 speaker. Can i assume that i get a AVR and a subwoofer and i can connect with those speakers?
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sonerin
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Jan 7 2010, 10:37 PM
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As long as the connector can fit
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willkso
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Jan 7 2010, 11:46 PM
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I think you need to check the impedance of your Logitech satelite(I suspect will be of low impedance) and confirm that the AVR you intend to buy was capable to handle low impedance speakers.
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TSIntrigue
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Jan 8 2010, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(willkso @ Jan 7 2010, 11:46 PM) I think you need to check the impedance of your Logitech satelite(I suspect will be of low impedance) and confirm that the AVR you intend to buy was capable to handle low impedance speakers. the front and back satelite is 61Watt each and the centre is 69watt  am i getting the correct info? |
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azxel
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Jan 8 2010, 10:27 AM
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moological mooster
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IMHO, nothing is ever overpowered... just because the speakers are large, it doesn't mean you have to pump the volume up to enjoy it's sound. I've seen enthusiasts with speakers that are 6 foot high and valve amps playing music in a room (12ft x 8') and it's still fantastic. Get a nice chair, put in in the middle of the room and sit back and enjoy.  |
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driftmeister
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Jan 8 2010, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Jan 8 2010, 08:49 AM) the front and back satelite is 61Watt each and the centre is 69watt am i getting the correct info? it's not about the watt but ohm  |
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willkso
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Jan 8 2010, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Jan 8 2010, 09:49 AM) the front and back satelite is 61Watt each and the centre is 69watt am i getting the correct info? driftmeister is correct. It's not about the wattage of the speaker but it's more about the impedance (ohms). AVR was designed to work within certain ohms range. Most modern AVR quote their power output either at 6Ω or 8Ω. Speakers itself was designed with certain ohms value also. Just like the package in your 1st post, the speaker was at 8Ω while the AVR itself was having rated output at 6Ω. If you attach a lower ohms speaker(satelite) to the AVR, it will draw more current from the AVR. I believe the Logitech satelites definitely have much lower impedance than that. Just like most of the HTiB actually have those satelite speakers with 3Ω in order for them to quote higher wattage output. It's actually not easy to find the actual ohms of the speaker used for PC speaker although I tried to google it. This post has been edited by willkso: Jan 8 2010, 03:31 PM |
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TSIntrigue
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Jan 9 2010, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(willkso @ Jan 8 2010, 03:26 PM) driftmeister is correct. It's not about the wattage of the speaker but it's more about the impedance (ohms). AVR was designed to work within certain ohms range. Most modern AVR quote their power output either at 6Ω or 8Ω. Speakers itself was designed with certain ohms value also. Just like the package in your 1st post, the speaker was at 8Ω while the AVR itself was having rated output at 6Ω. If you attach a lower ohms speaker(satelite) to the AVR, it will draw more current from the AVR. I believe the Logitech satelites definitely have much lower impedance than that. Just like most of the HTiB actually have those satelite speakers with 3Ω in order for them to quote higher wattage output. It's actually not easy to find the actual ohms of the speaker used for PC speaker although I tried to google it. If i read correctly http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hif...l-upgrades.html, the speaker should be 8ohm. So the AVR i find must support higher than it? 6ohm AVR should be able to drive it right? |
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willkso
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Jan 9 2010, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Jan 9 2010, 02:00 PM) If i read correctly http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hif...l-upgrades.html, the speaker should be 8ohm. So the AVR i find must support higher than it? 6ohm AVR should be able to drive it right? If it's confirmed rated at 8 ohms, then should be ok. AVR shouldn't have problem to drive your Logitech satelite speakers. By the way, I'm not sure how big is your room. Alternatively, you can actually buy the AVR and match with bookshelf sized speaker if you don't like the Pioneer speaker in the package. I believe the AVR in the package was Pioneer VSX-819H-K I do saw the retail outlet pair the AVR with others brand speaker(Rogers) at lower price. Not sure how's the performance as I didn't ask for a demo.
Added on January 10, 2010, 2:27 amI might be wrong about AVR pairing with speakers from HTiB as I happen to read there's one forummer using speakers from Philip HTiB with his Pioneer AVR. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=30990939This post has been edited by willkso: Jan 10 2010, 02:27 AM |
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sbd18
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Jan 18 2010, 05:00 PM
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im planning to get this but trying to source a better price...
harvey norman is offering RM3499 without any freebies...
ESH in ss2 says RM3100 with hdmi cable free...
any other offers in klang valley?
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hengng
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Jan 18 2010, 09:04 PM
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I bought this set from Harvey Norman, Mid valley for RM3499 november last year, which included 5 years warranty, hdmi cable and 2 speaker stands.
Cheers!
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sbd18
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Jan 19 2010, 01:18 AM
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good deal...especially the extended warranty and speaker stands...lemme try harvey norman mid valley and see wht i get...
any other places?
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sonerin
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Jan 19 2010, 07:47 AM
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Sunway Pyramid and also Ikano
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l_berd
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Jan 19 2010, 10:05 AM
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anyone in penang saw this model? i wonder what's the best offer here....
anyway any alternative to this model in case i couldnt find it? so far i read Denon 1909 (which i think discontinued) and 1910 is a match
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eugenecctan
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Jan 19 2010, 05:19 PM
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I can get for RM2999 only.
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TSIntrigue
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Jan 19 2010, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Jan 19 2010, 05:19 PM) I can get for RM2999 only. nice price.. where u get quoted for that? Is there any chances to upgrade the AVR from 819 to 1019 with additional top up? |
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sonerin
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Jan 19 2010, 08:02 PM
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You cannot top up and change the AVR as it is a package deal from Pioneer.
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TSIntrigue
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Jan 19 2010, 08:11 PM
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i think this package is set by pioneer malaysia only because i tried to google but to no result found
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gilbertlhl
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Jan 20 2010, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 31 2009, 09:02 AM) I think you should post it in the Pioneer Forum. Can get more response there. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1215885Should be able to handle Bluray player since the specs mention DTS/DD HD and HDMI repeaters. Anyway, I think its overpowered for a small room, but you can always listen at lower volumes, furthermore, no need to upgrade for a while. Regarding the price, I think its pretty much Pioneer standard. I agree with u too. Its over power for small room.. |
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formalin
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Jan 21 2010, 12:20 PM
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Getting Started
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What do Ya recommend for a small room, about a size of 12ftX14ftX11ft (WXLXH)?
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gilbertlhl
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Jan 28 2010, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Dec 31 2009, 10:40 PM) just measured it's 8ft wide x 16 ft long x 8/9ft high something like this I think ur room not consider small room .. it can be consider small to midium... |
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devil'z070
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Apr 7 2010, 06:07 AM
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New Member
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need some info regarding the speakers... are they available in black colour ?
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paskal
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Apr 7 2010, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(devil'z070 @ Apr 7 2010, 06:07 AM) need some info regarding the speakers... are they available in black colour ? nope they're not available in black. you might wanna go with todoroki set if you want black. that is if you could accept the design |
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Apr 7 2010, 09:51 AM
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I've gave up finding for this model all over KL. Anyone knows where can i view the demo of this HT?
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paskal
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Apr 7 2010, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 7 2010, 09:51 AM) I've gave up finding for this model all over KL. Anyone knows where can i view the demo of this HT? courts mammoth |
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willkso
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Apr 7 2010, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 7 2010, 11:50 AM) The one I saw available currently at Courts Mammoth come with VSX-519 @ RM2599 but if you choose Option 60 payment mode, then got 'free' 32" LCD TV...  |
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Apr 7 2010, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 7 2010, 10:50 AM) Oh bro paskal, you're right, i think i did inform you sometime ago. I forget things fast..  |
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paskal
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Apr 7 2010, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(willkso @ Apr 7 2010, 12:31 PM) The one I saw available currently at Courts Mammoth come with VSX-519 @ RM2599 but if you choose Option 60 payment mode, then got 'free' 32" LCD TV... i reckon some outlet do have the htp-819 on display. but not worth it IMHO. price difference between htp-519 and htp-819 is tooooo much try comparing todoroki rs-60 and rs-70. the difference is just the AVR (speakers are the same), same like htp-519 and htp-819. but htp-519 and htp-819 the price difference is much more than torodoki series. |
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devil'z070
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Apr 10 2010, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 7 2010, 08:33 AM) nope they're not available in black. you might wanna go with todoroki set if you want black. that is if you could accept the design today i went to harvey norman sunway and saw the todoroki speakers, i realy dont like the todoroki design, the design just wont fit in my leaving room design, saw the HTP-819SW also and test it , the sound was ok but could not test it fully coz the sub woofer ddnt work properly! most probly i think i will get the HTP-819SW . Now i need look for better price ! coz H.Norman still selling it at rm3599 and most probly can get discount abt rm150. |
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rexa13
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Apr 10 2010, 02:43 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(devil'z070 @ Apr 10 2010, 02:31 AM) today i went to harvey norman sunway and saw the todoroki speakers, i realy dont like the todoroki design, the design just wont fit in my leaving room design, saw the HTP-819SW also and test it , the sound was ok but could not test it fully coz the sub woofer ddnt work properly! most probly i think i will get the HTP-819SW . Now i need look for better price ! coz H.Norman still selling it at rm3599 and most probly can get discount abt rm150. better get from av shop. sifu here always advise dont buy from big chain store. |
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paskal
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Apr 10 2010, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE(rexa13 @ Apr 10 2010, 02:43 AM) better get from av shop. sifu here always advise dont buy from big chain store. problem is, hard to find av shop carry this model. for the price of RM3.5k, i reckon it's better buying separately from AV shop. go audition the HTP-819, then go audition what RM3.5k could get you at AV shop |
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sKyWiR3pT3lTd
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Apr 10 2010, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Apr 10 2010, 07:41 AM) problem is, hard to find av shop carry this model. for the price of RM3.5k, i reckon it's better buying separately from AV shop. go audition the HTP-819, then go audition what RM3.5k could get you at AV shop I second that, the sort of cash, you can customize , just fits the bill.. |
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anuarsan
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Apr 28 2010, 12:30 PM
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New Member
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juz got vsx 819 with pioneer speaker,surround and woofer for RM3200 from Desa HT Kepong..sound quite good but i dont know how tu use MCAAC..is it important..i heard that manual setting is better than MCAAC if in open living room..
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