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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V21, ~.~ Thuban & SPI 32M Season.

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post Feb 9 2010, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 9 2010, 04:53 PM)
Miahahaha, i can't remember it exactly but IIANM i still have the relic mobo & cpu that i tried it on, i still keep it at my room in BP.. laugh.gif
Got cap & cpu also fried i believe.. It wasn't exactly an oc trial but rather wrongly place jumper.. Can't remember it, it was a long time ago.. laugh.gif
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it could be power related jumper i guess... fsb selector won't fried d cap & cpu... sweat.gif

i still remember d p3 board, asus p2b-f... damn expensive too... sad.gif
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post Feb 9 2010, 11:08 PM

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update ckit... finally i've found d culprit for easy reboot during prime... rclxm9.gif

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post Feb 9 2010, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 9 2010, 11:25 PM)
and the culprit itu?
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trfcx for d ram... doh.gif

never expect it brings such a huge impact... a noob will always be a noob... shakehead.gif
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post Feb 9 2010, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Feb 9 2010, 11:38 PM)
me also nver heard of it...trfc perhaps?
trfc X indicate the number
is that so ah khoo?
last time u put how much? 90ns?
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yup, u got it rite bro... last time auto, reboot like no 2molo... now kickin strong 1600 @ cas7, don't want to sell it ledi... thumbup.gif
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post Feb 10 2010, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Feb 9 2010, 11:48 PM)
the pirate ram? wahh...mine still havent stable at 1600 cl7...gave up last time..mebbe will try again later on..but i did try with 110ns..no go
yup, d corsair ram. still havin hiccup in prime stable @ cas7, more volt needed i guess (mebe i should whack 1.9v brows.gif ) coz default volt is @ 1.8v cas 9... sweat.gif no problem w/ cas8 thou... nod.gif

will try tonite to make 1600 @ cas7 prime stable, nevertheless i'm quite happy w/ cas8 able to prime stable @ 1600 which before always give me freeze in less than 15mins. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Feb 9 2010, 11:56 PM)
Anyone know what's the default vcore for 550be? I set it 1.316 at bios and cpuz shows 1.328 :/stars:
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it's normal to have undervolt/overvolt, depends on mobo imo. smile.gif

QUOTE(uzer85 @ Feb 10 2010, 09:07 AM)
apek tak jadi pencen~
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pencen pon kene paka ddr3 ram on ddr3 mobo mah... x kan ko nak kawe paka edo ram meh? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(uzer85 @ Feb 10 2010, 09:21 AM)
apek pencen oso use ddr3 liao~

me on ddr2 only. dem, need to start ber-evolusi~
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sell off d e8400 can liao loh... brows.gif

QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 10 2010, 09:45 AM)
Naise to hear the pirate rams are picking up the pace.. go go go bro.. hehehe..

Can still get EDO rams ka nowadays? sweat.gif
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but d ram can never be as gud as d crucial value... sad.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Feb 10 2010, 10:18 AM)
for me, trfc related with bandwidth, when u use 75ns it consume a lot of voltage.. this is usually a culprit when come to the oc of ram.. usually when u need to find the best clock, best to start with ram oc with the value of 195ns.. or loosen it..

i don't what is 256mb for? 512mb....and so on.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Feb 10 2010, 11:27 AM)
dry.gif too humble laugh.gif

sometimes u may feel ur system slow in responsive time.. first to adjust, this trfc, second the main timing, follow with NB speed, and then the main clock for processor.. that should be the sequence for it... based on my noob experience playing superpi blush.gif
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i really dunno mah sis... smile.gif

know but say dunno = act noob
dunno but say know = act class
dunno say dunno (& vice versa) = honest

i'm in d honest type... nod.gif

playin w/ d dhx make me realize:

1. run lousy ram @ high frequecy stresses imc, limit oc mileage
2. run lousy ram @ tight timin stresses imc, limit oc mileage

conclusion = dun buy lousy ram (not necessarily value ram)... laugh.gif

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me... i'm sellin.. goin for sempron 140... brows.gif

pm me best price... tongue.gif

u can try to rma actually, just call them up (AMD), fill up d rma form & send it over. d kiddo whom i tested his chip rma his chip w/ broken pin b4, & it went thru (i'm not sure he's lyin or not). u got nothing to lose, rite? smile.gif

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Feb 10 2010, 01:33 PM)
Even my mobo no receipt or sticker also can RMA. But that was very lucky indeed for me nod.gif

Anything can happen brows.gif
Who knows later sis ah_khoo come out with a high-end rig that will surprise us laugh.gif
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physical damage is abit worse than lack of proof of purchase imo, but who know amd can be kind enough to replace d chip? no harm tryin... nod.gif

high-end rig? not possible unless i strike toto, but i dun buy toto over here so it's as gud as 0% chance. free upgrade only come once in a blue moon leh... some more i gotta gip ang pow liao this year... sad.gif tongue.gif

a gud piece of info to me...

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NB 1800 Mhz / 2 = 900 Mhz, so 1066 Mhz memory would be adequate, this indicates that DD2 was adequate on Phenom
NB 2000 Mhz / 2 = 1000 Mhz, so 1066 Mhz memory would about the same
NB 2200 Mhz / 2 = 1100 Mhz, so 1066 Mhz memory would be lagging slightly, 1333 Mhz could be better
NB 2400 Mhz / 2 = 1200 Mhz, so 1333 Mhz memory would be adequate
NB 2600 Mhz / 2 = 1300 Mhz, so 1333 Mhz memory would be about the same
NB 2800 Mhz / 2 = 1400 Mhz, so 1333 Mhz memory would be lagging, 1600 Mhz could be better
NB 3000 Mhz / 2 = 1500 Mhz, so 1600 Mhz memory would be adequate


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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 10 2010, 02:46 PM)
just like what i claimed.. but can't test it out..
for nb 2600 just use tight timing instead.. amd favour it..
not on the bigger ram bandwidth..
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it's a tedious work bro, those who're still study maybe can do us a favor? icon_question.gif brows.gif tongue.gif

look like i gotta try out 3k on nb freq since i'm eyein to run my pirate ram @ 24/7... not an easy task i reckon... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 10 2010, 04:00 PM)
3k mobo can sapot eh? need extra voltage also right?
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can bro... those extreme benchmarks gone as high as 4xxxMHz from i what i saw... sweat.gif

yup, some additional volt sure needed, depend on how gud is d imc. smile.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Feb 10 2010, 05:27 PM)
if lazy to read.. don't overclock laugh.gif
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waa... be gentle lah ckit sis... tongue.gif

QUOTE(stardust_kkk @ Feb 10 2010, 06:20 PM)
Finally, the 550BE bro bobiac sold to me last time was running as B50 now...thanks to the lightning that killed my XFX 750a SLi...sad.gif
Running at 3100Mhz at unleashed mode on stock cooler...1.2+V vcore..
temp 46 at idle..is it too hight?? it went up to 52 degree on load..
tried up multiplier till 3600Mhz but not stable..sad.gif maybe need more Vcore
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is that a 0922a/cpmw? it's a nice chip, dun waste it. nod.gif

0922 is capable of > 3.6GHz, 3.8~3.9GHz benchable is not an uphill task, u just need d correct setting coupled w/ decent board. from xs ya board looks pretty gud in oc, but i read that d board mite be a 'lil picky in ram. oso, do something bout d coolin, stock cooler wont bring u far. d chip deserves better cooler sittin on it, if on tight budget, can go for hyper 212+, if money too much dunno where to spend, give me some & buy a megamacshadow, noctua 12/14, true or even d latest vernomous x. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Feb 10 2010, 06:27 PM)
@sifu2:last time i played with ACC like sis verdict suggest to me, but after reboot i found that being disabled by my bios,
did anyone have exp with this?
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as mentioned by sifoo kunta, just enable d hybrid mode. unlocking mode = enable acc + unlockin cores at d sametime to most if not all manufacturers. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Feb 10 2010, 08:36 PM)
mad.gif  vmad.gif  cry.gif
last time know nothhig bout C and OC lor sweat.gif
and now still know nothig.............
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know nothing but can get free psu? meh... whistling.gif

just checked corsair forum, my dhx is runnin on micron ic (ver. 3.2)? but htey dun behave like one... doh.gif
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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 10 2010, 09:03 PM)
Nooooooo, that means newer Crucial Value may use the same kind of ic right?  sweat.gif
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still d9 i think, but what matter most is d x part > d9xxx. sad.gif

QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Feb 10 2010, 09:34 PM)
coz u ddnt take part in that compy laugh.gif
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even i took part oso no fight one... me ish spi noob... doh.gif

finally.... 1600 @ cas7 prime stable.... rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Feb 10 2010, 10:25 PM)
ah khoo...
vdimm pls
as per aod, 1.85v... smile.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 10 2010, 11:00 PM)
increase nb can? last time 2600..
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a quick test @ 3k nb failed to boot, but w/ vimc @ 1.35v, guess more juice needed. i'll push d clock + ram 1st bro... smile.gif

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Feb 10 2010, 11:03 PM)
2.8Ghz NB Freq i set 1.35V CPU NB Vid..Is it too high? or fine?
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1.35v is fine for 24/7 to me, if i'm prime blend test then i'd say it's rather impressive. nod.gif

QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Feb 10 2010, 11:26 PM)
1question here, not enugh power coz of vcore too low or coz of psu cant support?
PWM for NB rite?
not for cpuNB rite?
wait2, im still confuse bout it rclxub.gif
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psu supply juice to pwm, pwm control d volt to chip (includin imc since its build in). if ya psu have consistent + strong rail, most likely it's d pwm that fail u (not bein able to control d supply well). my noob theory, sifoo pls correct me. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Feb 10 2010, 11:55 PM)
ok² ram is priority..
but for amd now i think nb is most important..
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to me, nb freq is like d width of d pipe while ram freq = speed of d water, each will bottleneck each other if either one can't catch up. but again, this is just what i think lah... tongue.gif

3800 sneak preview... blush.gif

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* btw, thanks to sis xixo secret recipe, i think mixture of ceramic + as type thermal paste does improve d temp a 'lil... a big thanks to d master... notworthy.gif

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3.8GHz 1 hour done... smile.gif

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off to bed... yawn.gif
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QUOTE(Dura-Ace @ Feb 11 2010, 08:34 AM)
this my main2 oc blush.gif

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@ah_khoo:3.8@1.38vcore?? :/drool:  :/respect:
actually, i used same setting as ss above for 3.8Ghz, but its suddn boot during prime :/angry:
and only stable when >1.4Vcore?
how to stable <1.4Vcore?any suggestion?
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simple, not enuf juice or temp too high for d chip. we all knew that deneb like cold, but given d temperature in our country, it's hard to do high clock @ low volt. a nice ambient temp of below 20'c is needed i believe. d best i've seen so far(in vrz) is 3.8GHz @ 1.36v, was done w/ wc, not so sure whether it's in aircond room or not thou. either u pump more juice or u simulate d low ambient temp... data centre anyone? drool.gif

QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Feb 11 2010, 08:38 AM)
get a C3
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d master has spoken... notworthy.gif


QUOTE(cloudwan @ Feb 11 2010, 09:10 AM)
Yup, my 1st oc try playing with just multi to get stable at 3.8ghz would need me to pump around 1.425v sweat.gif
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Then i played a bit with the cpu volt below 1.4v + add a bit of the cpu-nb volt and guess what it was stable too without needing so high vcore  smile.gif
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I believe if i could tweak more i could get better result but i'm just a plain lazy bum  laugh.gif
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nice volt reduction there bro... thumbup.gif

have u tried primin @ 3.9GHz ledi? i'll give it a try tonite but coolin is d main concern. need to apply permission from my wife to put d cpu in d room so that d rig can enjoy aircond... cam data centre plak... sweat.gif tongue.gif

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