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dirtrun
post Jan 6 2010, 05:44 PM

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Hi,

I wrote a rvw (peasants one la) sumtime back on multiple sub usage ..

Here's de excerpt :


I was priviliged to check a really awesome HT here in Sg..

1. Room is a typical 4m by 2.5m hdb .. fully treated wif auralex sound absorbin foam n other foams froom bass traps to corner traps to ceilin foam n side wall, front wall, side windows n even de door to de room all has sum form of foam treatment .. windows were pasted up n floor length curtains were in use.. in all a fully dead n lite controlled room..

2. Marantz dlp 1080p proj - I dont know de model but it cost S$14k

4. Stewart grey screen -84inch

5. Denon pre/pro A1 plus pwr amps

6. Pioneer 989 dvdp

7. Pioneer lx51bdp

8. Miller n Kreistel 7.0 ( I didnt catch de models but de fronts were biggish bkshlves n rears/surr were combo strgt firin n bipole MKs)

9. SvS pb ultra 13 X 2

10. SvS pc + or ultra X 2 ( I didnt get de model but it was cylinders)

11. SvS pb 12+/2 X 2

12. M & K own thx sub..
Read/Pics from tis link : M&K SPKRS

13. Ancillaries oso included branded cbls from hdmi to spkr cbls.. oso in use is a parametric eq ( it was a behringers but now its sumtin else.. model - elemental design..)

Now de experience :

Demoes were :

1. Spiderman 3 - sandman scene; fight wif green goblin scene; final fight scene wif sandman n green goblin
2. Kung fu panda - Po first learns he is de dragon warrior ; tai lungs escape ; final fight scene between Po n Tai lung
3. Animatrix - de whole flick
4. Walk Hard - even music had sum really decent bass
5. Happy Feet ( his is a R A japan version which has dolby true hd, dunno if it really makes a diff as compared to de US versions of dd5.1 - accordin to de owner, not much.. cos he had both..)- Leopard seal scene; storm scene ; killer whale scene n final scene where de helos fly over to mumbles tribe..
6. Shoot em up - Paul Giammatti gettin a call from his wife scene - when de car does a U turn - de bass is fantastic..
7. Unbreakable - start scene where Willis was flirtin wif de sports editor gal, train passes wif solid whoooff
Music bds - Celine Dion s las vegas performance is oso fantastic sonically as well as amazin pics n sum ordinary red bk cds tat were surprisingly very surround like feel for only a 2.1 source but bear in mind its gud for only de sweet spot n if u move a ft off dat spot imagin is lost..
There were sum more demo films but offhand tis is wat I remember..

Opinions

At de end of de 2hr session my ears were ringin as it was reference lvls tat were used n detail is amazing.. bass surprisingly is not overpowerin - in fact I didnt know he had 7 subs until de end of de session - I did know he had multiple subs but no idea it was 7..

If I were to dare offer an opinion is tat de MK's were a tad bright for my likin but owner did say tat for clear detailed sound , brightness is a neccesity .. tat is wat de director intended u to here..

Conclusion

If u had S$100k, tis is wat u should get plus lots n lots of diy n trial n error.. Images n sonics were top notch n really there isnt anythin more u can ask for..

Now to go back to my own one would be hard..

Sighss
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post Jan 6 2010, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Jan 6 2010, 07:43 PM)
Jason Yeo IIRC.
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He is .. apparently changin to sealed subs now..
In fact a few of them hv .. uhm how do u say 'outgrown' from svs..

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post Jan 7 2010, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 6 2010, 09:24 PM)
so SVS not good enuf for him now?? hmm..
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I wouldnt say tat .. cos he is not changin all his subs.. I tink he wants a half n half situation wif sealed n ported 'feel' together..


QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Jan 6 2010, 10:22 PM)
I almost got his PB13 Ultra tongue.gif


Added on January 6, 2010, 10:24 pmAnd you didn't inform me when you were in town  mad.gif
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I tink he was lettin go a Pb12U..

No.. wasnt in Sg .. jus reprised my ol rvw..

QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 6 2010, 10:25 PM)
IIRC, they are jumping ship to higher end sub; Seaton subs. Sap sap sui for them.

Btw, when is ur turn to change your system?
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Yes ..

Seems tat way..

Myself no money for upgrds la.. 09 not tat great a year where personal economics are concerned .. hopefully 2010 would be better..


QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 7 2010, 09:48 AM)
Upgraditis fever! smile.gif
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Got money + itchy hands = slowly depletin wallet

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post Jan 8 2010, 05:23 PM

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Yup,

If limited to playin in low dB's then having a good sub is not unlike hving an expensive flower stand..

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post Jan 16 2010, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 15 2010, 02:37 PM)
For bass freaks...

Not sure if it has been mentioned, Australia has some pretty good scenes with very good LFE (Buffalo scene comes to mind, Japanese plane attack among others). Can't say much for the movie, wife enjoyed it though.
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Haha..

Wifey prbbly like hunky Mr Jackman..

I enjoyed Australia too.. its a romance flick after all.. its not half bad .. besides its got Nicole Kidman..

Nid I say more..
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post Jan 21 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(gsdev @ Jan 21 2010, 10:25 AM)
I picked up my Velo Impact 12 last tuesday did not have much time to test it out yet but need to clarify something with other Velo users, do you guys get the speaker "Thump" sound when you turn the unit on? Is this normal?

Ok clarified by CT Seong, this is normal  thumbup.gif
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SvS - no thump.. off or on..
Nuance - thump when off ; No thump when on thou'..
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post Apr 9 2010, 01:34 PM

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Haha..

Make it a day trip n drv dwn to KL la..

Leave Pg @ 6am .. be back home for dinner summore..
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post Apr 9 2010, 01:45 PM

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Pb12plus can fit into a myvi wat.. provided only 2 seats are occupied la.. I took mine home via a kembara - same deal..
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post May 13 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(chewkl @ May 13 2010, 02:46 PM)
Actually I am thinking of Velodyne....can still remember the boom boom pow in Pierreye's dedicated HT room. thumbup.gif
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Haha..

Tats de major disadvantage in visiting a 'higher end' system - there is always de comparing..
I guess if u can afford it.. go for it.. Resistance is futile - d force is strong in tis one

For those who cant .. better stay away.. brows.gif
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post Jun 2 2010, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jun 2 2010, 02:25 PM)
pierreye,

I 100% agree that I shd put in more effort, but my only worry is if it is so difficult to get them to send a simple reply and follow up, god forbid, what happens when we actually run into problems?
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Totally none of my beeswax..

But I dont get it .. to do all d importin in if its not really tat cheap to begin wif , amidst de myriad of prblms we in bolehland suffer .. I mean luk at how inconsistent our customs/censor/postal svcs coordinate our sofware purchases alone.. I would look at de local avlbl gear first b4 considerin any of tis.. Granted there r braggin rites in hvin sumtin ur neighbr prbbly nver heard of.. but to me .. its jus not worth it..

My 2cts
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PS.. if tis indirectly means go luk at SvS.. it could be worse


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post Jun 3 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Jun 2 2010, 06:45 PM)
It's not for bragging but so far SubM seems to be the reference sub at USD2k. I don't think we can find any commercial sealed sub that can output 110db at 15hz below RM 10k. Reference level for speaker is 105db and subwoofer is 115db.
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No offence intended .. bro..

U r prbbly 100% rite..

Jus my tots abt gettin sumtin avlbl locally against all d hardships of importin sumtin in..

Haha.. Spielbergs WotW was alrdy a sub killer durin its SD days.. no surprise on its hd prowess now..

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post Jun 3 2010, 03:34 PM

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Man..

Tis discussion is gettin nowhere..
But since I m stuk in d ofis wif nuthin to do .. cool2.gif

In d cines, except on certain efx laden scenes.. its not tat loud at all.. I do hv a SPL mtr but hvnt really taken in there to measure.. but if I go by 'feel' in comparison to my own HT, certain scenes might hit 120db, maybe a tad louder .. tat is where I usually sit sumwhere smack at d ctr of d cinema.. if u sit closer to d subs[ which shld be in frnt] of cos it would be even louder..
In comparison to d HT at home.. certain scenes can hit 100db too .. sumtimes even more

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post Sep 3 2010, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Sep 3 2010, 04:08 PM)
May be he is undertake some Eng course mah  rclxms.gif
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Hahaha..

U all c him no up..

4 all we knw he got Phd in engrishh wo

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post Jan 19 2011, 02:56 PM

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Must resist.. must resist..
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post Jan 19 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(geforce1999 @ Jan 19 2011, 04:36 PM)
I tot you gonna say "must buy.. must buy.."  tongue.gif
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Hahaha..

At those prices .. even I .. wif deficit acnt oso wanna buy la..

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post Jan 20 2011, 12:04 PM

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Haha..

Take both la.. tats wat I wld do..

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post Jan 23 2011, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Jibek @ Jan 21 2011, 10:58 PM)
hi all sifu2 here.,just wanna ask you'll opinion n experience.,rite now i oledi have velo impact 12.,if i have xtra budget maybe wanna add 1 more to run dual sub.,so u guys think.,should i buy another impact 12.,or try another brand..tq
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Sell d velo..

n get 2 ryhtmik f15..

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post Jan 27 2011, 05:28 PM

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Wow..

Tats one hell of a MOFO sub..

Reminds of how big d SvS is oso.. I tink d PB12+/2 twin drvr [ out of circulation ] was even bigger..

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post Apr 9 2011, 12:41 PM

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More hzs can cause localization issues for sum ppl.. meanin u tend to know where de sound is coming from n since there is only one sub..
Lower Xover will eliminate tis..
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post Jun 2 2011, 05:36 PM

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UNSTOPPABLE

As expected tis ttl is another reference to try out ur tua gong subs..
Runaway train .. mah..

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