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 The Official Subwoofer Thread v3, Everything you need to know about bass!

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TShtkaki
post Mar 20 2010, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Mar 20 2010, 11:13 PM)
Taukeh, just tested out.
C/o at 80hz, the rumble comes in.
C/o at 60hz I gain better sound stage for concert as the response is more even.
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some rooms able to take c/o up to 100Hz with beautiful effect. One need to experiment in order to find out which is best smile.gif

Try your front as 'Full Band' setting with the rest c/o at 60Hz. LMK the result.

Taukeh, so sorry as my room still ain't in best setting. Once I had the 6 new panels done and into position, I'll invite you over again wink.gif
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post Mar 22 2010, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Mar 22 2010, 12:14 AM)
bro... for that price u can get the PB13Ultra all built & ready d ma.. y the hassle?

anyways, i got the submersive for a little higher than that but it's prebuilt & tested, sent to ur doorsteps also... I would just go with the ready sets unless u like the DIY feel thingy.
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Taikor, pierreye did consider the PB13-Ultra before smile.gif . However, he is looking at other alternatives. DIY path is always fascinating and that it doesn't 'cost' as much. Each has his/her own preference wink.gif

Btw, still finding time to go up North and audition the monster Submersive sweat.gif Been busy with acoustic treatment. Now, thinking of DIY a 2x 6" thick frame (2' x 4') to house 4" high density rockwool.
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post Mar 22 2010, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 22 2010, 09:59 AM)
I almost pull the trigger on PB13-Ultra but I still think a sealed sub is better for it's musical characteristic. If you want an all out LFE, PC13 or PB13 Ultra would be a good buy. Submersive sub seems like a final sub for most people. Seldom I heard from the forum they want to upgrade to another sub, only add on more submersive. I too do consider submersive but Mark never reply my email so I give up on Submersive. eD seems like a good alternative with cheaper price. There is a guy who bought both submersive and eD sub for comparison in avsforum.
Yes, I do agree. A ported sub even on sealed config (like 13-Ultra) will never match the tightness and pace of a sealed sub with similar spec. For movie, ported sub has the upper hand.

Submersive has been a great sub. Now, we have Paradigm Sub 25. I wonder how it fares against Submersive. Some guys in avsforum claimed that Sub 25 took over 'the throne' from Submersive. Then again, it is more expensive.

Did you try to e-mail Mark again? Or maybe he has a 'phobia' with Malaysian after the incident laugh.gif tongue.gif Probably he is busy keeping up with the orders since his company is relatively small. However, he seriously needs someone to take care of the e-mails on inquiries.

On another note, we should recommend logit85 to get Elemental Design subs for his tamil songs collection whistling.gif .


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post Mar 22 2010, 01:51 PM

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Consider you may on the Elemental Design Dual 13Av.2 Sealed DIY Kit, which pierreye is thinking of. Price estimated RM7.9K to be as pierreye has calculated thread on above.

Price is competitive and it's sealed sub. Good listering tamil songs. Get 2 you can and same never agan along Penang Street. Sure loud boomy boom boom.
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post Mar 22 2010, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Mar 22 2010, 04:08 PM)
I send him 3 emails in 2 months without any reply. eD reply me in a day. So this is part of the consideration just in case if I need replacement parts.
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Wow.... that's really erm.... sweat.gif

eD seems to be quick on that, which is good to a customer's point of view. Anything, a click and in no time a reply from them.


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SVS sealed sub coming soon prepare 8-9k for 2 SB12-NSD. If not enuf, buy 4. Very tight boom boom poww rclxms.gif


4 sealed subs placed at 4 corners would be perfect to even out room response. If place right, can gain 16dB out of these. Sure loud boomy boom boom tight bass thumbup.gif .
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post Mar 23 2010, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Mar 23 2010, 12:53 PM)
htkaki,

When is the SB12-NSD coming? Is the price more than PB-12NSD of RM3.7k?
I thought sealed sub is more suitable for music listening??
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No definite date yet. Schedule is end May 2010 along with SB13-Plus.

Price will be about PB12-NSD range. Yes, this sealed sub is more suitable for music.
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post Mar 26 2010, 12:48 AM

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Which model? CHT-Q smile.gif , SPL-Ultra sweat.gif or DD series whistling.gif ?

Better PM C.T. Seong for pricing wink.gif .
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post Mar 26 2010, 08:41 AM

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I am not too sure abt the pricing as it's been quite some time that I last met up with Atven or Rick of A&L.

DD-10 sld be in the region of RM10K but that was years ago. Anyway, better PM CT Seong for exact pricing.


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post Mar 26 2010, 09:53 AM

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Here's the Fr graph of DD-10 tested at ground plane:

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post Mar 29 2010, 02:08 PM

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Speaking of Emotiva, they did not bother to reply my e-mail after the product was delivered with a t-shirt missing. Not being particular abt the t-shirt, but at least have the courtesy to reply. So much so for their after sales service.

Mr Tan got so pissed with their delay in reply for XPA-2 that he decided not to buy from them.
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post Mar 29 2010, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Mar 29 2010, 02:11 PM)
another m. seaton in the making? tongue.gif
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Emotiva is different from M Seaton as they are more 'organised' and a bigger entity with ample personnel. Just that it really surprisingly disappointing with their attitude
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post Mar 29 2010, 03:59 PM

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Look for him at Dali Thread. He is the A&L Bangsar branch mgr.
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post Mar 29 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Mar 29 2010, 04:07 PM)
Seems Emotiva needs to buck up their communications.
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Welcome back, bro smile.gif

Yes, indeed disappointing. I wonder what will happen if any of our power amps blows off. It could possibly be a long wait. In saprozeldo's case, he need to call them at midnight to get the quote during the promo as they did not reply his few e-mails.

Btw, have you been able to re-position your F15?
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post Mar 29 2010, 05:35 PM

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Have no problems with the first few e-mails wt Emo. Payment made. Then, things start to go a bit slow. Still reply. The goods reached KLIA well before their reply on the tracking no.

After I found a missing t-shirt, I e-mailed to ask. From then on, nothing.
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post Mar 29 2010, 10:39 PM

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Is it? Oooppsss, my bad. Hopefully Director Seong is not offended tongue.gif

Yes, the paper cone will not be as lasting as polypropylene and other mat in our high humidity climate.
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post Apr 4 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(asherteoh @ Apr 4 2010, 10:05 PM)
anyone knows of any local vendor carrying Emotiva?
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It's an ID company so there isn't. You need to contact them directly. Best of luck to you as it doesn't live up to my expectation as well as a few others about its so-called excellent service sweat.gif . Quality products, yes (touch wood) but they seriously need to improve their service esp for oversea's customers. Remind me of M Seaton's case (ronnt88 & pierreye)
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post Apr 7 2010, 08:51 PM

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As I said BEFORE, it's not going to happen in Penang sweat.gif Holding a demo is not a cheap affair and to transport these giants and moving it around is no easy task.

We are focusing in this year KLIAV show. Prior to the KLIAV, we will be advertising in NST too. Please take a flight to KL come July 23-25 smile.gif Credit card payment is available wink.gif
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post Apr 9 2010, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(asherteoh @ Apr 9 2010, 01:21 PM)
if come by flight then how to lug back the woofer??  whistling.gif
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We'll courier to you for a small fee wink.gif
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post Apr 9 2010, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(dirtrun @ Apr 9 2010, 01:34 PM)
Haha..

Make it a day trip n drv dwn to KL la..

Leave Pg @ 6am .. be back home for dinner summore..
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thumbup.gif A few of them did that. If it is PC12-NSD, it can fit into a sedan.

I wonder chewkl will drive down this year or not in his ride...... erm... better not to disclose the elite ride sweat.gif


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post Apr 9 2010, 02:52 PM

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Someone took PB13-Ultra home with his Myvi tongue.gif and I did posted the photo. Hatchback is easier to fit it in.

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