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clivengu
post Dec 28 2009, 01:13 AM

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HAPPY BELATED CHRISTMAS!!!! hahaha.. n oso ALPHA V35!!! tongue.gif quite long din come back to check the thread oredi.


Just complete one job (no pay) taking my friend's wedding yesterday from morning 6am to 11pm... now legs are in pain cause squat a lot.. n my right hand is shaking...Good experience though.. i have been waiting for this kind of experience for sometime.

I am just the backup photographer. The main photographer is a more experience canon user, groom's relative. So many time i have to give priority for the main photographer n Videographer... & there are time when i missed the best moment cry.gif I missed the part where the groom finally manage to enter d bride's room!!!!.. i totally have no room to squeeze in.. but seeing how the main photographer guide the couple n ready for the each important moment...really good thing to learn... Im just a bit upset I dont know how to speak cantonese.. is hard to tell people what to do in mandarin.. (like weird) communication problem...

The night dinner in restaurant is still tricky with the lighting... still couldnt get the exact right way. I should get myself a colour gel.. Now i get all weird weird inconsistent white balance.... rclxub.gif Luckily got A700 manage to push my iso up to 1000-1200 to cut down the need of flash power...

I brought my A100 along too but end up not using it... cause feel like all my photos taken r Blur, i think is the lcd resolution make me think so... n oso iso performance..Only can use 50mm f1.4 on it. So I carry my A100 with me so i can swap lens when needed.. i think i need to get a lowepro lens side pocket next time.. most of d time i just put my lens on the table n everywhere after i changed d lens.. so dangerous....

Really wish to take more wedding photos... any 1 needs backup assistant can ask me... for free whistling.gif

Will post some photos here to share after im done editing them all... got almost 20GB of photos...1500 photos~ doh.gif

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post Dec 28 2009, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Dec 28 2009, 09:34 AM)
clivengu : Your A100 can still be used. Set to ISO 800 and with the help of a flash, you can still get decent pictures. Just remember to overexpose your shots a little and it should be fine. Noise can hardly be seen.

A big part of wedding photography is communication with the couple. Let them know well before hand how and what you are going to do. Ensure that they tell all their friends and relatives that there's a OP there so that you will have an easier time. You still need to jostle for space but it will make life a little easier for you.

I really think that to cover a wedding really well, couples will need at least 2 photographers. One to tag with the bride and one to tag with the groom. Ideally a team of 3 photogs with experience will be best. One to cover the groom, one for the bride and a third for the crowd and candid snipe shots.
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Actually A100 still can be used... just that psychologically the lcd give me the impression that the photos are blur haha. I usually used it with my 50mm without flash. but if time allows, i'll still switch it to A700 because the slightly higher resolution n better noise control allow me to crop later.

Actually im not the official photographer... so i just check from the side.. what he did.. n I do some side candid shot... Yeah.. 3 Photographers i think will be most ideal. I think should set up a team among Alphas can work together next time icon_rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(wha7ever @ Dec 28 2009, 10:33 AM)
Clive, I too not good in speaking cantonese and had minor backup photographer experience for Chinese wedding. Having use A300 on Aperture priority is quite suffering and in the end I resort in using full manual mode for everything (including flash) tongue.gif

Come to think of it, it's actually quite fun to be backup photographer as we don't have to follow the bride and groom all the time; but can move more freely, taking pictures of 'heng tai' and 'chi muis' while the bride and groom were in the tea ceremony (where by main photographer handling it). That's where most of the interesting items happening with heng tai and chi muis. Tea Ceremony was quite boring and repetitive smile.gif
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I usually use M mode.. & control the aperture n shutter speed let say i know the slowest shutter speed i can handle is 1/50 sec... then i set tat, n the flash to Auto..letting the flash to judge how much more light is required. One thing i find extremely helpful in the A700 is the Custom 1,2,3... allow me to set before hand. example...

C1 = iso 1000, 1/60 sec, F2.8, WB 5500k on my Tamron 1750 , with flash on.... usually for single/double candid shot
C2= iso 1250, 1/50 sec, F5.6, WB 5500k on my Tamron 1750, with flash on.... usually for group photo
C3= iso 800 1/60 sec, F2, WB 3400k on my 50mm F1.4 without flash.... for pinpoint candid shot.

Work tat way n It really save me a lot of trouble...

Yeah looking back my photos.. i would say luckily im just the backup photographer.. because i can get a lot of interesting shot from the side. n i can oso zoom in to give a more bokeh background/foreground. If im the main photographer infront of the bride/groom... im pretty sure i hv to use a wider angle.. and yeah many shots will be repetitive especially Tea Ceremony n it bcome the main photographer responsibility to take every each of them... while im just working on getting the most artistic view around ... i actually still can run around.. missing some of the tea session. icon_rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(cjlai @ Dec 28 2009, 04:08 PM)
thread so quiet these days....  spam abit tongue.gif

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Love this one.. sharp n the colour n warm for my liking


QUOTE(jr.precrime @ Dec 28 2009, 04:10 PM)
sifu, wanna ask will it b a redundancy to own an additional 50 f1.4 since i dy hv 17-50 f2.8? smile.gif
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i having both lens.... n LOVE THIS combination... they gonna be my favourite pair for wedding shooting of all time thumbup.gif 50mm for the details. 1750 for the general...Not enough zoom.. i actually crop a little n is done. laugh.gif


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post Jan 5 2010, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Jan 4 2010, 09:53 PM)
Hmmm I tried to register my new a550 but failed lorr...why ah? It sez there wrong model or serial number...aiya, double checked already still cannot laah~~....relp....
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Both my A100 n A700 i registered online fail. Have to call.. n its done in no time.

QUOTE(noprob @ Jan 5 2010, 12:09 AM)
Go to alphanatics , find John . Or call up Sony , to put ur name on reserve list in case got participant cancel their seats
Not only one , but got 2 great lens for sale
50mm f1.4 and 6 month old 70300G !  thumbup.gif
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where is the 70300G??? if cheap i might interested. im not too satisfy with the beercan sharpness.

QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Jan 5 2010, 12:56 AM)
kk ill read the T&C, but in the mean time.. if it is protected, how to bring this up to the malaysian law? u know how malaysian law can be..
Its u know.. the feeling of people "stealing" the pictures.. i actually dont mind them using it.. but must credit to who la.. the page also never say picture taken by who also..

Edit: i scanned through the T&C, it just stated that FB wont share your information whether if its pics or ur info with other people. But, it also doesnt state that 3rd party advertisers can use the pics.. Damn, i should have watermarked it..

eh to all u photogs, watermark ur pics.. I didnt think my pic could get stolen, because to me, it was not a very good picture, so i didnt water mark it.. Its not a nice feeling that a picture that you took, got stolen and was published on a magazine without your consent. What more a local company. sien..
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That is bad. But i heard that all the photos we posted in FB will be under FB properties oredi.. thats why my friend dont want to post his favourite shot in fb.... but without posting in FB is very hard to share photos with others... flickr doesnt work as good though it does maintain max quality...


Hey I wanna share a Wedding Slideshow i took for my friend.... but i not really know how to post the youtube video in the thread leh.. can somehow help?


Added on January 5, 2010, 2:19 am
okey i think i figure out... this is my first attempt to shoot a complete wedding ceremony...(morning session)... & make a complete slideshow for my friend... for FREEE~ C&C welcome!
The worst regret is unable to capture the scene when bride n groom kissing in the bride's room... doh.gif




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post Jan 5 2010, 04:07 AM

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Wow you guys are late owl like i am hahaha... sweat.gif

QUOTE(eddybeh @ Jan 5 2010, 03:04 AM)
wow........... very nice...... rclxms.gif i like it.....
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very nice...  like ur shots bro  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Jan 5 2010, 03:58 AM)
very nice... the work of the tammy.. so when u gonna sell me? and u get CZ? =P
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Eddy cjlai: Thanks.. i captured 1500 photos and only filter 500 to give to the bride. and choose another 70+ photos out of the 500 to make into slideshow... 2/3 of my photos are junks hahaa.. sweat.gif wish can do better...

lildardevil: hahaha.. I love my tammy ... unless i change to FF only will get the CZ because of the distance haha. The F2.8 is excellent n sharp.. n gives the extra bokeh tat is important to throw away many distractions ( relatives heads + pns cameras + hands etc)
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post Jan 5 2010, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Jan 5 2010, 06:45 AM)
Nice one bev  rclxms.gif

cjlai or clivengu: IIANM one of you bought the Tammy 17-50 f2.8 and had a back or front focus problem kan? Whats the story now with the tammy F2.8?
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QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Jan 5 2010, 11:09 AM)
ahah thanks.. =)

clive bought the tammy with the back focus problem.. long story cut short.. it was the a700 itself which had the focus problem.. so after tweaking the a700 (he tweaked it himself!! DIY man!!) the tammy didnt have much problem after that.. but, u let clive go into the details la =P .. it was posted somewhere in the previous threads lol.. very long post about how he tweaked the a700 if i recall..
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Hahaha. yeah... is actually the body problem.. long story... Sony really have to keep up with the quality control...But i do heard a lot of tammy 1750 F2.8 backfocusing problem before i bought mine.. so i thought is the lens problem... end up is my new body problem.. bad bad period of time during that time.. rclxub.gif but now im very happy with my A700 + Tammy thumbup.gif


QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 5 2010, 11:54 AM)
not only him, my A300 also has the issue.

u will notice obvious calibration issue once u grab lens like 50mm or f2.8 lens. if it's fine, then it is fine, if it's off, u can see it very obviously.
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u mean 50mm F1.8, yaya. it bcome very obvious if u like to shoot with large aperture. After changing to A700 body... i realise the 50mm isnt really very sharp at f1.4.. quite soft...


QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 5 2010, 10:00 AM)
very nice indeed...bravo alphanarian....
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QUOTE(VeRoN_7 @ Jan 5 2010, 01:46 PM)
Good job clive  thumbup.gif  like the image from the tamron 17-50 so much..
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Thanks Finejava.. Lets show the general public Alpha can also do what N & C can do too!! hahaha


Added on January 5, 2010, 2:09 pm
QUOTE(freddy manson @ Jan 5 2010, 02:01 PM)
why a450?
sony what are u doing.. haiya..
cepat2 kasi keluar tu a700 punya anak beranak punya keturunan bah..
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yalo.. im getting sick of waiting the A700 replacement.. luckily din wait. i thought A750 coming out soon? FF?

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post Jan 5 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(weixuan @ Jan 5 2010, 06:56 PM)
spam some photo i took during my recent taiwan trip
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Like the 2,3 n especially 4.. very nice! icon_rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(Braynumb @ Jan 5 2010, 11:13 PM)
Wanna share pics taken with the SAL55200. Do note that f4 on this lens is available from 55mm-100mm! nice for portrait! and Absolutely LOVE the Bokeh,IQ and Color from this lens!!!!

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I love the composition n simplicity of the 2# one.... it will b better if the sticks are removed leaving the unique Batu stand out from the rest of the smaller rocks... thumbup.gif
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post Jan 9 2010, 04:51 AM

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QUOTE(lehtung @ Jan 9 2010, 04:35 AM)
Orion Cacat  doh.gif

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Wow did u took that? n pp the line?

Btw... interesting discussion on Cash vs CC vs Debitcard.. hahaa.. i only use CC for installment.. so that way... the credit limit will prevent me to further overspent.. sweat.gif

Finally manage to upload my video on facebook & youtube. was removed twice from fb because of somekind of copyright violation on the music i used.. but was restored after i write to them. I repost the morning session video so it is a complete full day photos... im looking forward to do more of this kind of shooting... Thinking to do another four more shootings for free b4 im confident enough to start charging hehe. now i charge rm 50 just for my fuel allowance.. reasonable ? tongue.gif

Samuel & Wai Wai Wedding Morning ceremony:




Samuel & Wai Wai Wedding dinner:





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QUOTE(jr.precrime @ Jan 9 2010, 08:13 AM)
nice bro! enjoy watching it  rclxms.gif  btw what software u use to mk tis kind of movie?
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Using Proshow gold... first time using.. Last time use the windows movie maker but the bad thing is couldnt render high resolution...

QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 9 2010, 08:15 AM)
Guys, decided not to go to alpha pro shop opening...tension quite high in KL...
Kul | Mo0: sorry last min FFK...
Upload some pic ya...
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What Alpha Pro Shop is it? how come I missed the news....tell me more brows.gif

QUOTE(Hinika @ Jan 9 2010, 10:10 AM)
bro clive, where was ur location ? my wedding was coming soon and im looking for a second PG for my actual day on 30.01 (sat)... interested ?  brows.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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My location in Damansara. Near One Utama Mall. Your wedding? CONGRATS!! Sure i'll be interested thumbup.gif make me as the backup PG. but where is ur location? can pm me


QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Jan 9 2010, 12:13 PM)
finejava : Hahaha it's ok last night went clubbing. Went home gunned down at about 4am. Now only woke up feeling dizzy. (:
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wow.. enjoy yo! im feeling old oredi.. long time din club. sweat.gif
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post Jan 10 2010, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Jan 10 2010, 08:53 PM)
Walao eh. Nice nice. I feel the need for a TT la. Hopefully get to test out the Tamron and Sigma 70200 f2.8 and 70300G side by side.  (:
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Any TT recently... ? Moo u planning to sell ur beercan ah? next time i wanna compare ur beercan n mine.. i still feel my beercan doesnt meet my expectation in sharpness at F4.. wanna compare with urs see is it because of mine not as sharp...

The 70200F2.8 vs 70300G... quite a hard choice for me.... mainly because of the f2.8 weight... rclxub.gif

QUOTE(coolio2199 @ Jan 10 2010, 09:36 PM)
eh...if TT can i join???wanna ask u guys how to improve my technics drool.gif
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QUOTE(lauyamonk @ Jan 10 2010, 10:01 PM)
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Very nice bnw... with sky detail...

QUOTE(hokc77 @ Jan 10 2010, 10:04 PM)
Group outing to Heritage Hotel and Fullhouse for some portraits session
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As expected from hokc77 always share nice photo with us.. just one personal comment for picture 1. I will prefer it to compose with more room towards the bottom (where the reflection are)... so it balance up n draw more attention to the reflection which i believe is your intention in d photo... mayb can tipu brighten up the reflection slightly tongue.gif nvrtheless.. great shots! i wish to do this kind of shooting... any tips how to start?

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post Jan 12 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 12 2010, 02:08 AM)
zeipher: The shutter speed sets to 1/60s slowest, and depends on focal length.

Alphas have ambient light and shutter speed priority when in flash. So, supposing you are in very bright light in in A mode:

1) It lowers the ISO to the lowest if in Auto ISO
2) It picks as fast a shutter speed to avoid overexposing the background
3) If the flash is in direct position, it can use HSS (up to 1/8000s on the A700/A850/A900)
4) If the flash is not in direct position, it cannot use HSS and is limited to the flash sync speed (1/125s with SSS on on most Alphas, 1/160s with SSS off on most Alphas, 1/200s with SSS on on A700/A850/A900, 1/250s with SSS off on A700/A850/A900)

Then, there is the other condition where you are in unsufficient light.

If your focal length is 40mm or shorter it will pick the slowest shutter speed of 1/60s. Still, the ambient light would be underexposed, so it will increase ISO to the maximum that Auto ISO allows.

If your focal length is 70mm (105mm on FF) then the camera picks 1/105s... but then there is no such speed so it goes to 1/125s straight. This probably happens on the beercan since it starts reporting the widest focal length as 75mm!

Thus, wider lenses will let you get 1/60s with flash in A mode, while longer lenses cause the body to pick 1/125s-1/250s. Of course if you point your flash forward, you can get much faster shutter speeds.

Based on this same ideology I hope you understand why the S mode with flash works the way it does.

Ksano: Whoa the spider has boxing gloves!
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Ic..So only direct position that the Flash can use HSS up to 1/8000s.. No wonder I cant increase my shutterspeed when using flash under sunlight... last time i shoot potrait in PD. Learn something today smile.gif



QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jan 12 2010, 09:34 AM)
morning!!

A weekend trip to Broga Hill:

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Very nice.. love ur energetic spirit! hahaa... did u manage to catch the bottle & the bag after it landed?? or directly throw down the hill..hahaha

QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 12 2010, 11:36 AM)
Hi guys,

back from the busy weekends. as what destfull describe...i was suppose to meetup with him for a COD and then proceed to uncle chin opening...unfortunately i was involve in a accident...total of 7 cars...due to a F*^KING road bully...3 cars crashes me from behind simultaneously...1 of the satria GTI was badly damage...a few ppl got injured, the worst was 1 of the passenger got a fracture skull

below are the picture from the incident:

1# another wira(hits me on the left side of my car) was remove from the scene to avoid blocking the traffic
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5# my car still standing strong after being hit by 3 cars...
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QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 12 2010, 11:51 AM)
actually this whole incident happens because of 1(round 30's) putra bullying an old couple driving a perdana...at 1 stage...this stupid putra driver stop at the side of the road and walk across to the fast lane and halt this perdana to a FULL stop ...

so the car behind the perdana can't manage to stop to sway to the left...leaving the car behind to an emergency stop...that is where the whole thing happens...i'm the 3rd driver from behind...
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Woa.. good thing u are all right.. but your poor accord... remember i tumpang your car last time..nice car.. but i think luckily your car is solid enough to take that knock.. if like a myvi (without a butt) .. i think it could be real dangerous to the passenger oredi.. The Satria is badly damage... omg.. hope the girl is okey... Accident like this really wanna avoid also difficult... i don understand how could that bully guy could stop his car n WALK to the fast lane? he wants to be knock over? really idiot.. should knock him down.


QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 12 2010, 12:16 PM)
albnok, ahew, Kul | Mo0: there are blood and petrol all over the place...3 of the cars engine are badly damage...but the blood, i believe is from the girl who got a fracture skull...
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Scary.. but i think the photo shows is the break/steering fuid.. looking at the colour n the way it flows.

QUOTE(gizmo_pony @ Jan 12 2010, 12:55 PM)
Q : Anyone here owns Tamrom 17-50 F/2.8 ? The price is quite tempting. Just want to know is it worth it :-). Thanks guys.
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Yeah.. worth it ..hahaha.. worth every cent... n is cheap!
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Jan 12 2010, 02:38 PM)
albnok : Do you roughly know the price oof the white minolta biggie? (:


Added on January 12, 2010, 2:39 pmclivengu : I just noticed your wishlist. I'm selling 1118 now oh. (:
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hahaha. laugh.gif yeah.. thinking to get 1118.... but have to save money this few months... early of the year is bad business for me..The main purpose of getting 1118 is preparing for my europe trip in July... still quite sometime..hehe.. was thinking shall i get the 70300G first... no no.. shouldnt be poisoned by any lens... arrrghhh
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QUOTE(finejava @ Jan 12 2010, 03:05 PM)
and now for a less horrifying pic spam...

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except for the last pictures.. the first three are kind a horrifying too.. in mood... white japan lady with laughing crown.. hohoho.. reminds me of some horror ghost movie..
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WElcome to Alpha , Impulse Zaku!
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QUOTE(ReasonsofThanatos @ Jan 12 2010, 07:17 PM)
hmm...my fren's gonna get a dslr soon buy he's bugged with a question that im interested to know too...

we noticed that Ns' and Cs' have the image stabilizer built into their lens, while Alpha's have it inside the body...

but does IS on lens has advantage over IS in body, or are they on par? other than d obvious fact that IS in lens allows u to see d stabilizing effect in ur viewfinder and IS in body doesnt...??
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What i heard is.. The IS/VR advantages is that.. it actually stabilise what you see in the viewfinder too... for SSS it doesnt stabilise what u see.. I think if want to test.. u can try get a zoom lens with VR n another zoom lens on Alpha n on the SSS.. zoom to lets say 200mm.. then try to hold it still... see if there is any difference... i nvr try b4... tongue.gif


QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Jan 13 2010, 08:54 AM)
haha .. i cant remember .. the guy is not me .. I just the person behind the camera .. wink.gif ..

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Hahaha.. i have guessed so... usually photographer not in the photos.. btw another nice set of photos...

QUOTE(ieR @ Jan 13 2010, 01:07 PM)
depending which photoshop version u use,... coz the brightness in the photoshop are re-code.

the old brightness will POP the photo to flare white.

the new (CS4 as i never tested CS3) brightness will maintain the detail of the photo without popping the photo. (there is a tickbox to enable 'legacy' something to turn the brightness control to the old brightness control, which will pop the photo.

exposure, (btw, the new brightness coding is base on this) is when u adjust brightness+saturation at the same time, that is how it maintain bright and still in color.
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Oh.. is this true? okey will go install cs4 after i format my pc.. hehe planning to jump to win7 64bit + 1tb hdd + 2gb of ram tongue.gif

QUOTE(vincyuee @ Jan 13 2010, 04:27 PM)
Just want to ask. I know its wrong section. but I NEED DSLR GURUS!!!! 

Im currently using A550 with the lens of 18-70mm..

just now dnt know what the hell happened. I was taking pictures.
then suddenly when I off theres alot of "buzzzzzzz" sound coming out from the body/lens.

when it turns to Manual. it doesnt sound anything.

now when I turn it on/off with Auto focus mode. it just come out ALOT DAMN NOISE.

is there any repairing for lens?
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Wow.. tats scary.. your avatar look exactly like how u must be experiencing now... sweat.gif i guess u'll need to bring the lens for service.. do u have other lens u can try see if the same problem happened?


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QUOTE(kysham @ Jan 21 2010, 03:50 PM)
The sony A500 is officially sold by Sony Malaysia. They made a special launching promotion for the A500 + survival kit during the last PC fair at KLCC.

I saw in the previous page that someone posted some photos on Bali. How I miss that place! I was there for my honeymoon last November 2009. Share 1 photo with you guys on my trip to Bali:

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Im trying to solve the colour white balance difference when using flashgun in a tungsten environment hall... What is the best way to make a colour gel for my F42? Can any1 show me how to make theirs? stick the yellow or orange transparent paper infront of the flash?

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