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yueyi5730
post Feb 11 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(jerm @ Feb 11 2010, 10:16 AM)
hi, i've been using bengy since day 1 of getting my rabbits, no adverse situations encountered before... smile.gif

for pellets, i'm using "Super Premium Mix", also with no side effects....healthy sized poop, and lots of em too
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well it's not recommended to give grains but if u insist it's your choice..it's not poison just not the recommended food..long side effects maybe u can tell us next time from your experience since u are feeding it..

Bengy and super premium mix is 2 different brands right..u giving both pellets to ur rabbit?


Added on February 11, 2010, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(Juztiny @ Feb 11 2010, 01:52 PM)
Can anyone tell me what is the difference between Teddy Bear Rabbit and Jessey Woolly?   I saw people selling this Teddy Bear breed so expensive and claimed it is new and hot breed.

Btw, I have one bunny adopted from a petshop (petshop's customer give up his/her bunny).  Not sure what breed, but quite nice and tame rabbit. Now looking for a soulmate for her.  If I put 2 female together, do you think they will fight?  If I put a junior female in, the chances of fight is less, right?

I have another question (sorry that I am  quite clueless about rabbit), what do you call the color like those Himalayan cat type of color marking rabbit?  I wish to have one like this but must be fluffy long fur.
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since it's a hot new breed i think u can try google and see the breed and the characteristic..i visit petshops around when i'm free or if i pass by any..so far i didn't see any teddy bear breed yet..if u want to claim a new breed there are many steps to follow..we chat about this in the old posts maybe u can check..so happen is also about the teddy bear rabbit..Jersey woolly definately can find..u can search on the net and see what are the characteristics then u know the rabbit's quality and if it's worth paying for..

my female rabbit doesn't like other rabbit even if they are male or female..last time when i had 3 rabbits..i have to let them out 1 by 1..if not they will fight...many incident that rabbits that are brought up together fight also..but this is less common then newly introduced ones...to me it depends on your rabbit itself...if u have a female..i suggest u get a neutered male to accompany it...but rabbits are ok alone too as long as u give them proper attention and care.

I'm clueless about cats so i dunno whats a himalayan cat..


Added on February 11, 2010, 6:35 pminstead of repeating here..u can just refer to the older post
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post Jan 26 2010, 04:32 PM
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u want the breed to be official breed have to follow many steps lor..if not u can simply call what ever breed u want also can..like me...i like to call rabbit with black eyes and ears- panda rabbit,kekeke


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post Feb 11 2010, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 11 2010, 06:02 PM)
well it's not recommended to give grains but if u insist it's your choice..it's not poison just not the recommended food..long side effects maybe u can tell us next time from your experience since u are feeding it..

Bengy and super premium mix is 2 different brands right..u giving both pellets to ur rabbit?


Added on February 11, 2010, 6:13 pm
since it's a hot new breed i think u can try google and see the breed and the characteristic..i visit petshops around when i'm free or if i pass by any..so far i didn't see any teddy bear breed yet..if u want to claim a new breed there are many steps to follow..we chat about this in the old posts maybe u can check..so happen is also about the teddy bear rabbit..Jersey woolly definately can find..u can search on the net and see what are the characteristics then u know the rabbit's quality and if it's worth paying for..

my female rabbit doesn't like other rabbit even if they are male or female..last time when i had 3 rabbits..i have to let them out 1 by 1..if not they will fight...many incident that rabbits that are brought up together fight also..but this is less common then newly introduced ones...to me it depends on your rabbit itself...if u have a female..i suggest u get a neutered male to accompany it...but rabbits are ok alone too as long as u give them proper attention and care.

I'm clueless about cats so i dunno whats a himalayan cat..


Added on February 11, 2010, 6:35 pminstead of repeating here..u can just refer to the older post
pg 10 i think
post Jan 26 2010, 04:32 PM
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u want the breed to be official breed have to follow many steps lor..if not u can simply call what ever breed u want also can..like me...i like to call rabbit with black eyes and ears- panda rabbit,kekeke
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Thanks for the reply. Hehehe..the problem is by looking at their pictures, the teddy bear and Jersey Woolly look quite the same to me also. blush.gif




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post Feb 11 2010, 07:14 PM

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to me teddy bear is not a breed...hey probably named it just to attract customers..maybe u can call your guinea pigs "baby doll gp" and ppl would go crazy for it..hahaha..just an example
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post Feb 11 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 11 2010, 07:14 PM)
to me teddy bear is not a breed...hey probably named it just to attract customers..maybe u can call your guinea pigs "baby doll gp" and ppl would go crazy for it..hahaha..just an example
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Hahaha... that's a good suggestion! rclxms.gif

My current bunny is a bit small size, as compared to the Anggora mix Hotot breed I had last time. But I like it that way. Is Lop ear bunny very big size? Is it as big size as Rex?

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post Feb 11 2010, 10:04 PM

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@justiny

u mean holland lop?
differnt lop bunny different sizes...holland lop is bit smaller than rex..but they have a big round head..

why dun u post up some pictures of your bunny..we would love to see it
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post Feb 11 2010, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 11 2010, 10:04 PM)
@justiny

u mean holland lop?
differnt lop bunny different sizes...holland lop is bit smaller than rex..but they have a big round head..

why dun u post up some pictures of your bunny..we would love to see it
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Sigh...cannot upload photo, even imageshack also take ages to upload. I saw on Mudah.com, one Holland Lop very cute, it has the color I like most (the one look like Baa Baa Black sheep/Little Lamb), but the price...currently cannot afford. One day, when I saved enough $ then may be I will buy that type.

http://www.mudah.my/Arnab-Holland-Lop-Rabbit-5285560.htm

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post Feb 11 2010, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 11 2010, 07:14 PM)
to me teddy bear is not a breed...hey probably named it just to attract customers..maybe u can call your guinea pigs "baby doll gp" and ppl would go crazy for it..hahaha..just an example
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teddy bear and woody toys are cross breed and it cannot claim pedigree....you can see a lot many in thailand and i personally know a chinese is importing to malaysia,.,,,beside jersey wooley comes under pedigree,with large fluffy hair.if u ask me ypu can choose jersey wolley,if u go to petwonderland,they correctly identify the breed of rabbit,probably u may get jersey wooley there@justiny
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post Feb 12 2010, 01:33 AM

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guys!
NEED HELP!

my bunny just give birth to 3 babies a few hours ago..but the mommy buat tak tahu je..

what should i do?? aiya im dead worry!!
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post Feb 12 2010, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(xhuggybearx @ Feb 12 2010, 01:33 AM)
guys!
NEED HELP!

my bunny just give birth to 3 babies a few hours ago..but the mommy buat tak tahu je..

what should i do?? aiya im dead worry!!
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I'm not sure the exact way..but from experience is.. DO NOTHING!

If you interrupt the babies and the mommy..sometimes it will end up the mommy will get violent and accidentally kill the baby. One thing you can do is separate the daddy...and leave the mommy and babies alone as much as you can. Just refill food and water when necessary.

Usually if 1st time give birth..it is most likely the baby will not survive. From my previous experience when my 1st bunny gave birth to 4 but only 2 survive. cry.gif Maybe the mommy no experience so a bit careless.

Owh ya..1 more thing..throw in some soft old cloth is the cage for the mommy to put the baby. She will carry them with her mouth.

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post Feb 12 2010, 08:13 AM

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I don't agree with you at all. None of the pet shops in Malaysia right now can identify the rabbits that they sell. All in my opinions are local mixes but they tagged them with names just to sell. Some petshops are aware of the breed because their managers/owners have the right attitude to learn and accepting pointers.

Once and for all, to clear the air, this is a REAL Jersey Woolly, anything that looks different is local mixed breed. There is no pure Jersey Woolly in Malaysia as of now

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To put it in simple terms. A Jersey Woolly is almost like a Netherland Dwarf maybe with longer ears. The wool or long coat does not cover the HEAD area but only the body.

I am sure all the local Jersey Woollies have long coat all over. That is a variant of the Angora rabbit.

Everyone needs to start doing their research so that they don't get hoodwinked into believing every single thing others say. The more you are equipped with knowledge, the less you get cheated.

QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Feb 11 2010, 11:56 PM)
teddy bear and woody toys are cross breed and it cannot claim pedigree....you can see a lot many in thailand and i personally know a chinese is importing to malaysia,.,,,beside jersey wooley comes under pedigree,with large fluffy hair.if u ask me ypu can choose jersey wolley,if u go to petwonderland,they correctly identify the breed of rabbit,probably u may get jersey wooley there@justiny
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Added on February 12, 2010, 8:55 amYou are right about the bothering part. But I do not agree that the mother will CARRY THEM WITH HER MOUTH. For so many years I have been raising rabbits, I have never seen this happening and I don't think it will happen unless the rabbits is a hybrid with a cat.

xhuggybearx,

I am sorry to say that I am totally against accidental litters. I am not sure what is happening but unplanned litters are totally signs of irresponsible pet ownership. It is very plain and simple, when you put 2 animal of different gender together, they are bound to breed. With that in mind, you should have been prepared. Deaths in litters like this is normally not the problem with the rabbit being a first time mother. The problem lies in the owners being unequipped and unprepared. Please know that these are domesticated animals that we humans have raised and they are fully dependent on us. How do you expect rabbits to continue having their natural instinct in a unnatural environment that we humans provide? What shall we do? We need to mimic the natural environment for them so that it will complement their natural instincts.

Are you aware of the behavior of prey animals? If you are, then you will know why the mother rabbit ignored her babies.

Just my 2 cents and sorry if I sounded too harsh. I hope the babies survive.

QUOTE(azr33l @ Feb 12 2010, 02:00 AM)
I'm not sure the exact way..but from experience is.. DO NOTHING!

If you interrupt the babies and the mommy..sometimes it will end up the mommy will get violent and accidentally kill the baby. One thing you can do is separate the daddy...and leave the mommy and babies alone as much as you can. Just refill food and water when necessary.

Usually if 1st time give birth..it is most likely the baby will not survive. From my previous experience when my 1st bunny gave birth to 4 but only 2 survive.  cry.gif  Maybe the mommy no experience so a bit careless.

Owh ya..1 more thing..throw in some soft old cloth is the cage for the mommy to put the baby. She will carry them with her mouth.
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post Feb 12 2010, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Feb 11 2010, 11:43 PM)
Sigh...cannot upload photo, even imageshack also take ages to upload.  I saw on Mudah.com, one Holland Lop very cute, it has  the color I like most (the one look like Baa Baa Black sheep/Little Lamb), but the price...currently cannot afford.  One day, when I saved enough $ then may be I will buy that type.

http://www.mudah.my/Arnab-Holland-Lop-Rabbit-5285560.htm
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justiny your baba black sheep rabbit is just a picture from the internet they took and use that picture...coz last year i also google pictures to put as my desktop picture for easter day theme and this is one of them...seriously i'm still having this picture now..mine without the mudah tag summo...100% the rabbit are not genuine from the ones they are selling..so beware of this fraud..

here's the proof i just googled lop ear bunny

http://images.google.com.my/images?hl=en&c...ved=0CBIQsAQwAA

there u go..both the pictures are there

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QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Feb 11 2010, 11:56 PM)
teddy bear and woody toys are cross breed and it cannot claim pedigree....you can see a lot many in thailand and i personally know a chinese is importing to malaysia,.,,,beside jersey wooley comes under pedigree,with large fluffy hair.if u ask me ypu can choose jersey wolley,if u go to petwonderland,they correctly identify the breed of rabbit,probably u may get jersey wooley there@justiny
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Yup..that Gombak petshop importer told me the price is RM350 for a Teddy Bear. Which I think it is way too overpriced for a non-pedigree. May be it is still quite rare, that's why the pricing is high.

Actually I don't care its pedigree or mixed, as long as it appeals to me, and the pricing which I think is reasonable then I will buy. But still my budget is RM150 max. whistling.gif


Added on February 12, 2010, 10:44 am
QUOTE(sangterap @ Feb 12 2010, 08:13 AM)
xhuggybearx,

I am sorry to say that I am totally against accidental litters. I am not sure what is happening but unplanned litters are totally signs of irresponsible pet ownership. It is very plain and simple, when you put 2 animal of different gender together, they are bound to breed. With that in mind, you should have been prepared. Deaths in litters like this is normally not the problem with the rabbit being a first time mother. The problem lies in the owners being unequipped and unprepared. Please know that these are domesticated animals that we humans have raised and they are fully dependent on us. How do you expect rabbits to continue having their natural instinct in a unnatural environment that we humans provide? What shall we do? We need to mimic the natural environment for them so that it will complement their natural instincts.

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Fully agreed with you on responsible pet-ownership attitude. At lot of people always like a pair of male and female, and they think is nice to have babies, but then they never think ahead of "what if..." after that. doh.gif


Added on February 12, 2010, 10:56 am
QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Feb 12 2010, 09:24 AM)
justiny your baba black sheep rabbit is just a picture from the internet they took and use that picture...coz last year i also google pictures to put as my desktop picture for easter day theme and this is one of them...seriously i'm still having this picture now..mine without the mudah tag summo...100% the rabbit are not genuine from the ones they are selling..so beware of this fraud..

here's the proof i just googled lop ear bunny

http://images.google.com.my/images?hl=en&c...ved=0CBIQsAQwAA

there u go..both the pictures are there
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Oh..Thanks Yueyi for the spotlight!

I suspect so, usually this type of rare color marking is really hard to find in Malaysia. A lot of the pictures that potrait on nice background are usually not real.

Here are my bunny's picture.

It's digging a hole!
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Can go in and out freely.
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Not afraid of my dog, and my dog likes rabbit. Strange though...
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QUOTE(xhuggybearx @ Feb 12 2010, 01:33 AM)
guys!
NEED HELP!

my bunny just give birth to 3 babies a few hours ago..but the mommy buat tak tahu je..

what should i do?? aiya im dead worry!!
cry.gif
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pls chkout this site for detailed info on how to take care of babies....will highlight you from a to z

http://www.barbibrownsbunnies.com/having_b...s_questions.htm
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well im just over excited i guess..

ive wanted to have some baby bunnies..thats why i pair em up..
bought the female last year and have the male like early this year..


BUT I AM NO GOD to know when do my bunny will give birth..
im just asking how to handle the baby..not to stop the birth..u sound like u blaming me for not been prepared to have a baby..i just cant say when doest she goin to give birth to the babies..i am no expert on this..
but i am willing to have some babies bunny..thats why i pair them up..and i know each of the gender..its not like i accidentally put a mix gender in the same play pen and just last night im surprise that my buuuny give birth..

im just suprise that the bunny can give birth this fast..thats all..


thanks for those who give advise..and to those who critics (if have)..well i just dont give a dang about it..thanks.
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In nature, God will know when the rabbit will give birth.

When in captivity, a breeder (the one playing God) will put the female into the male's cage and witness the mating, remove the male, jot down the date, count 31 days and prepare nest at day 28.

That is what you have not done. You do not need to be expert but a little research goes a long way. That is what we call planned breeding.

Instead of allowing the male and female be together till the babies come. And take note, a female rabbit will mate with the male rabbit right after giving birth. So if you did not separate the male from the female, she might be pregnant again. I guess that is what you intended and wanted so good luck and all the best!

QUOTE(xhuggybearx @ Feb 12 2010, 07:02 PM)
well im just over excited i guess..

ive wanted to have some baby bunnies..thats why i pair em up..
bought the female last year and have the male like early this year..
BUT I AM NO GOD to know when do my bunny will give birth..
im just asking how to handle the baby..not to stop the birth..u sound like u blaming me for not been prepared to have a baby..i just cant say when doest she goin to give birth to the babies..i am no expert on this..
but i am willing to have some babies bunny..thats why i pair them up..and i know each of the gender..its not like i accidentally put a mix gender in the same play pen and just last night im surprise that my buuuny give birth..

im just suprise that the bunny can give birth this fast..thats all..
thanks for those who give advise..and to those who critics (if have)..well i just dont give a dang about it..thanks.
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guys i have read some article for the newly owned rabbit that was brought to house for the 1st week and most new rabbit will probably die due to stress or what ? anyone can correct me with any example website please?
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Feb 12 2010, 08:13 AM)
You are right about the bothering part. But I do not agree that the mother will CARRY THEM WITH HER MOUTH. For so many years I have been raising rabbits, I have never seen this happening and I don't think it will happen unless the rabbits is a hybrid with a cat.

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haha..I saw it once. But it didn't actually bite the baby like cats. It is more like hamster's way...as if it put the baby in the mouth then put them back out.. Really.. I was shock the 1st time i saw it..I thought the mummy wanna eat the baby.
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QUOTE(Lawrence93 @ Feb 12 2010, 10:04 PM)
guys i have read some article for the newly owned rabbit that was brought to house for the 1st week and most new rabbit will probably die due to stress or what ? anyone can correct me with any example website please?
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it depends where you bought the rabbit,if the bunny was kept in tight sound proof cages,the moment you change the whole environment and if there are noises,it may give stress to rabbits,which will lead to death...this is wot i read from an article too.when i bought a rabbit from pets wonderland(midvalley) , i get advices frm the sellers to cover the whole cage for a week,keep them outta noisy area and not to disturb until it get usual to the new environment,but wots the use,it had diarrhea and died exactly after seven days,those days i was new to rabbit,i didnt get the seriousness of diarrhea.


so be careful in choosing your bunny.
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QUOTE(Lawrence93 @ Feb 12 2010, 10:04 PM)
guys i have read some article for the newly owned rabbit that was brought to house for the 1st week and most new rabbit will probably die due to stress or what ? anyone can correct me with any example website please?
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Most times when such happens, its due to the rabbit being too young to be sold off still. The rabbit needs to be at last 8 weeks old, but there's a lot of places that sells them when as young as just 4 weeks.
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Feb 12 2010, 09:24 PM)
In nature, God will know when the rabbit will give birth.

When in captivity, a breeder (the one playing God) will put the female into the male's cage and witness the mating, remove the male, jot down the date, count 31 days and prepare nest at day 28.

That is what you have not done. You do not need to be expert but a little research goes a long way. That is what we call planned breeding.

Instead of allowing the male and female be together till the babies come. And take note, a female rabbit will mate with the male rabbit right after giving birth. So if you did not separate the male from the female, she might be pregnant again. I guess that is what you intended and wanted so good luck and all the best!
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duh..but how do i suppose to know this is the time or next will she give birth?
i cant lay my eyes on her 24-7..the mummy and daddy have been together since like 2 or 3 month..and i just got some few lilttle signs of her givin birth..but that was like a someway before..long wayy before..
and take note that my bunny mingle around together when ever im at work.. i dont cage my bunny afraid that she might get stressed up..cuz i work almost every single day..and they didnt fight what so ever cuz ive always check for any scratches or sense of they fighting together..i have 4 bunnies not just 2 okay..

dont expect veryone knew what you knew and dont ever assume that you know every single thing.. im just asking for help/advise..if dunt want to help/blaming me what so eva then just leave it..its that easy..

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