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post Jan 11 2010, 04:56 PM

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Lettuce is not recommended due to high content of water and less fiber. May cause diarrhea.

QUOTE(toda6866 @ Jan 11 2010, 09:55 AM)
in my case flowers actually boom more - all plants except for sweet potato leaves

hmmm, i shall try with others u recommended but lettuce cant use to feed rabbit is it? or is it cabbage?

my rabbit very choosy, sometimes dont bother to eat when u give same thing again, must have variety  rclxub.gif  i become the slave
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post Jan 12 2010, 08:29 PM

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Me too!!!

QUOTE(Chinchillas @ Jan 12 2010, 07:21 PM)
I want to be your rabbit.... cheers.gif
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post Jan 14 2010, 03:45 PM

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Please refer to 1st page for general diet guidelines. Raw veges should be avoided for young rabbits. HAY is important. To a certain extend the shopkeeper is right, they will eat when they are hungry no matter.

Good luck!

QUOTE(Vigilant @ Jan 13 2010, 08:03 PM)
I just got pair of bunnies recently... when I got them, they are used to eat pallets as their daily meal and small amount of carrots... but then I was out of pellets, so I start to feed them with water spinach and they tend to like it so... I just fed them mostly with that plus some other vegetables including carrots... The problem is I just bought a new pack of pellets and they dont eat at all. I asked the keeper at the pet shop they say just let them be eventually they will eat it... but I leave them without any food besides the pellets for hours but still they havent eat. Then I resort back to feed them with raw vegetables. So how to make them to eat pellets... They can't just eat vegetables
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post Jan 15 2010, 12:46 PM

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Welcome and done...

QUOTE(rockmaniac85 @ Jan 15 2010, 12:33 AM)
Thumbs up to this thread.. i can learn a lot about rabbits here smile.gif

PS : can i put my name on the list too? My girlfriends rabbits.. will post up pics when i get the authority from her.. lolz

Lulu (D) , Marsi (B)
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post Jan 16 2010, 12:48 AM

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WOW, i didn't know people are counterfeiting rabbit pellets now. You can try out Pro Optimum pellets which are available on the shelves of PLC stores too. Be sure to gradually change from old pellets.

Anyway, try to encourage your rabbits to eat hay. They can survive just on hay when pellets goes bad. Pellets at the end of the day are just fillers to keep those stomachs filled. Yes, there should be of good quality but in such circumstances, you should rather go for better alternatives.

My suggestion would be, get reasonable and decent pellets if affordability is the issue, you can get stuff like Hagen which moves really fast and the stocks are really consistent. The more consistent the stocks rotate, the fresher it is. You can compensate what Hagen can't give i.e. Fiber through feeding fresh and green hay.

Also, take note that switching pellets too often may upset your rabbit's stomach. I am done switching and hate the intervals without the certain brand of pellets and therefore has moved on to other better alternatives that work for me....

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post Jan 16 2010, 10:05 PM

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You will be surprised that rabbits can really survive on HAY alone. But to be on the save side, pellets are fed because they are suppose to be well balanced with all the nutrients they need. Over eating hay is a very good sign. It also tells you that the pellets SUCKS! LOL!

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post Jan 17 2010, 09:02 PM

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There is nothing to enroll as far as Lowyat.net is concern. This is a free forum for everyone. If you are talking about MROC, then please get an application form and send back the completed form. The secretary will reply to u ASAP.

Glad to hear you got ur holland lop after such a long time looking.

QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Jan 16 2010, 10:51 PM)
glad to see V9.............pls enroll me as your new member....@ sangterap,today i managed to buy a holland lopear,well tomorrow i will upload its foto.
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post Jan 17 2010, 11:53 PM

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Mind me asking what are the rabbitries listed on the pedigree?

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Added on January 17, 2010, 11:54 pmEli, what sort of probiotics did the vet gave to Hector? If it is a paste, what i suggest u do is turn HEctor around ala Trance and swipe on his mouth OR you can put some on his paws for him to lick it up....


QUOTE(Eli @ Jan 17 2010, 11:52 PM)
hey folks, had to take my boy to the vet today as his poop was a bit soft. vet gave me some probiotics for him. my problem is i cant get him to eat it at all. he takes a smell of it and runs away. i really dont know what to do. i dont want to manhandle him and force him to eat it, might injure him in the process. is there anything i can do? mix it with juice? i'm so worried.  icon_question.gif
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Added on January 18, 2010, 12:00 ambasically in Holland lops, Blue = Grey and Grey = Blue. It is what we call a diluted black.

judging on the quality of photo, my guess is a blue otter.

QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Jan 17 2010, 11:45 PM)
yea you are right,it is more grey thn blue....
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post Jan 18 2010, 12:19 AM

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I mean, an imported Holland Lop should come with a tattoo on its left ear together with a pedigree document showing 4 generations of parentage?

Do you have that?

I was asking what were the rabbitry names listed on the pedigree document. Just interested to know...

QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Jan 18 2010, 12:08 AM)
i didnt get your point sangterap ??? pls clarify me
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post Jan 18 2010, 09:25 PM

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A rabbit spayed under a good vet can recover in just 3 days. 8 to 9 months is a very good time for spaying. I am very comfortable sending rabbits for spay at:

Dr. Lynette & Dr. Loh
HILLPARK VETERINARY MEDICAL CENTRE
18 & 20 Jalan Anggerik Eria AT 31/AT, Kota Kemuning, Shah Alam
Tel: 03 51228386

Prices for spay is RM250++ not sure prices increased though.

QUOTE(lancaii @ Jan 18 2010, 09:02 PM)
Hi all. I'm thinking of spaying my rabbit. just wonder how much does it cost and how long is the recovery period of a 8-9months rabbit? By the way, i'm in puchong.

Any experience vet to intro?

Thanks in advance..
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post Jan 19 2010, 08:32 AM

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Welcome to the world of pampered bunnies....LOL!

QUOTE(Eli @ Jan 18 2010, 10:42 PM)
when to see Dr. Lynette. she gave capsule probiotics and liquid vit c to mix so it turns into paste form. naughty fella is really being very stubborn. lucky 4 me his poop has gone back to normal again.  rclxms.gif

boy, he is an expert in making me panic.  cry.gif
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post Jan 22 2010, 10:44 AM

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I must also add that Chinchilla is a totally different species from Rabbit although they share certain characteristics. The keyword here is RODENT (guinea pig/chinchilla) vs LAGOMORPHA (rabbit). They are from 2 different classes of animals.

Go through wikipedia.org to know their classing in the animal kingdom and you will understand more.

QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:53 AM)
PLC-pet lovers center...it's a petshop has many brances in KL
well i wouldn't say higher price...some pure breed rabbit will fetch high price too coz of the features of the rabbits like some show quality that may be potential winner in competitions..but they will be great home pets too..who wouldn't be proud to have a Handsome/pretty bunny at home..if your talking about local rabbits u can see this case in dogs also(mongrels and pure breed pedigree dogs)..see the price difference

chincilla is considered an exotic pet and is less common in malaysia so it's more expensive..chincilla in overseas is not sold so expensive like here in m'sia.but to import one is pricey..same goes to imported bunnies...imported parents is different case ya not considered as imported rabbit is it's born here
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QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Jan 22 2010, 12:17 AM)
yueyi ,wats PLC abbrevation ????

one more doubt.....
wot makes difference between a bunny and chincillas,why chincillas are sold for higher price ???

pls someone clarify
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post Jan 25 2010, 10:09 AM

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I totally do not agree with you on limited feeding information. Rabbit diet information regardless of breeds (they are all rabbits), is all over the internet. you are not searching hard enough.

pellets do act as an agent to strike a balance in a rabbit's diet. Hay alone is not enough to sustain a rabbit nutritionally. You will still need to feed pellet because it is a guaranteed balance. In the wild, rabbits have much more to eat besides grasses (hay).

Please don't mislead yourself regarding diet. there is so much written on the 1st page of this forum and many more websites especially the House Rabbit Society website.

Holland Lop is a rabbit after all and they are not super rabbits that do not eat pellets.

Maybe I am misunderstanding your statement but you really need to read up on the basics.

QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Jan 24 2010, 11:09 PM)
since i get few info reg feeding my holland lop,now i give unlimited hay and stopped pellets,do u agree with me ????
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post Jan 25 2010, 01:47 PM

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Unlimited hay = present at all time. It does not mean you don't need pellets. How I wish they just eat grass and thrive, then I don't need to spend so much money on pellets. LOL!

QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Jan 25 2010, 12:30 PM)
yea i've read your info reg rabbit's menu in the first page,but since i was reading feeding unlimited hay,i misunderstood tht giving hay is more than enough...anyway thnks for guiding me @ sangterap and fyire.
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post Jan 25 2010, 08:04 PM

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So far there isn't any purebred Jersey Woolly or Lionheads in Msia. Those mixes should be below RM 80 so that you know and not get conned.

QUOTE(Feux Follets @ Jan 25 2010, 05:05 PM)
Hi im new. Would like to get a rabbit soon. Is there any good breeders for Jersey Wooly or Lionheads? How much do they cost.....
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post Jan 26 2010, 04:07 PM

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No offense to the mixed bred but if you are looking for a pure bred rabbits, anything out of those on these 2 websites, most probably new hybrid or mixes:

1) http://www.thebrc.org/stds.htm (British Standard)
2) http://www.arba.net/Breeds.htm (American Standard)

Not to mention there are many Malaysian standards too, whatever specification they follow, I don't know....

Maybe just based on the CUTE factor....

QUOTE(Feux Follets @ Jan 26 2010, 10:01 AM)
Thanks for the heads up. I see that someone is selling a Woody Toy breed. When i google i see nothing. Does this mean its not a pure breed as the seller claims it is?
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post Jan 26 2010, 04:32 PM

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First of all, there is no MINI HOLLAND LOP. that shows how much the seller know about rabbits. I'll only pay RM 50 for those rabbits listed there. MAX.

If it is a pure bred, ask for 4 generations PEDIGREE that shows you the lineage. The Holland Lop world is very small, once you recognize the lines with RABBITRY names listed, you can double check with the breeders whether local or overseas to know if they have send their rabbits into Malaysia and this offspring is indeed from their lines.

That's the best you can do right now. If they can't prove their rabbits' lineage, that is definitely a non pedigree. here's the check list:

1) Ask for pedigree
Sample:

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2) Ask for parents (they may have Tattoo on their left ear)


QUOTE(Feux Follets @ Jan 26 2010, 04:12 PM)
In that case its gonna be tough to identify what genetics its got unsure.gif

how do i tell if its mixed or pure bred  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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post Jan 27 2010, 08:20 AM

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Well, being an ARBA member, I am only interested in breeds recognized by them if we are talking about purebreds. Other than that, I am not bothered with their origins because there is no way we can track/trace and no standards to refer. In short, anyone can produce anything and give them whatever names, if it is not listed on ARBA or BRC, I am not interested at all.

I just take the rabbits like any ordinary rabbit but I foresee a great implication in producing mixed bred and people patronizing these mixes because the welfare of the rabbits will always be in jeopardy. It is not all about the pricing of the rabbits. If people demand for sub standard rabbits, they will always be neglected. They are replaceable because they are dirt cheap as you can breed them by the dozens. And the best part is, people are paying way too high just because what they have in front of them is:

1) CUTE
2) There is a "Branding" i.e. all lop ear rabbits = holland lops (ridiculous!). I find this very disturbing because it is a form of deception....

But of course, in a business point of view that is definitely good but I don't see that in perpetuating and exploiting them.

QUOTE(malaysiangroup @ Jan 26 2010, 11:30 PM)
yes Woody toy breed,Teddy Bear is not a pure breed and it doesnt comes under pedigree....(once whn i was discussing with Mr.Beh,he passed this info to me)these rabbits are imported from thailand if im not mistaken.

do you agree with me sangterap ?????
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post Jan 29 2010, 12:50 AM

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LOL...

Kick @ss bunny!

QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Jan 28 2010, 08:51 PM)
hey everyone just wanna share with u guys a video from facebook...

RABBIT RULEZ!!
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/video/vi...43321371&ref=mf
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post Jan 29 2010, 09:48 AM

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Welcome to the thread. You are doing very well. It is perfectly fine to separate intact rabbits to avoid unwanted pregnancies and fights.

I suggest you don't use that brand of feed. It is cheap for a reason. If you don't believe me, I suggest you try tasting them. I have once bitten sand in those cheap feeds.

I suggest if you really cannot afford it, go for Hagen. That's the best you can give to your rabbits on a tight budget.

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