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vincentwee
post Nov 8 2010, 09:07 AM

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Eli, what type of fresh vegies Hector eat?
eat too much vitamin is not good. liver has to work harder to expel it. not recommend increase vitamin. I think give him fresh hay. Beh & Yo got a gold edition product which pack fresh hay in brown box. my colleague told me is very fresh.
u can feed him more fruits like apple. an apple a day keep doctor away.

as for emergency vet, maybe next time you go to your vet, ask him/her personally what if got emergency. do they take call?

Eli, you only have 1 bunny, Hector at home?


Added on November 8, 2010, 4:58 pmduring lunch time, went to J Jay.
gosh, got so many cute bunny.

from netherland dwarf (black otter + show rabbit) cost $950. his ear and face is super cute!
also got lion head, hotot and holland lop.

for rabbit lover, please go visit. so many bunny to cuddle.

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Beh & Yo (Yo) also teach her to beat bunny if they naughty. wink.gif
la la la
since sifu of all bunny also believe in physical punishment

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post Nov 8 2010, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Nov 8 2010, 09:07 AM)
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that week he was having his celery. fruits are sweet la, he's fat enough tongue.gif
ya, i only have hector. am looking for a gf for him at the moment but hard to get a pure breed doe in the m'sian market. plus i'm worried about the bonding process.


Added on November 8, 2010, 7:32 pm
QUOTE(sangterap @ Nov 8 2010, 08:00 AM)
as i know they are 24/7
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Close on sunday night after 7pm sad.gif


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post Nov 8 2010, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Nov 7 2010, 10:51 PM)
my Milo, 'Holland Lop'.

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Where u bought ur new bunny?
How much?
I kinda like it
I got an angora bunny which look very similar to your 'hotot'
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post Nov 8 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(bug_vengeance @ Nov 8 2010, 08:55 PM)
Where u bought ur new bunny?
How much?
I kinda like it
I got an angora bunny which look very similar to your 'hotot'
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i bought at Ikano Pet safari. because very high risk bought from those petshop, u need to have some skill. first, with so many bunny, look for those keep eating. reason being it represent strong body. only the weak do not dare to fight for the food & eat. look at their eye. are their eye clear. look at their nail and their lower body. are those nice fur. lastly, do u have special feelng for them. Milo is the first rabbit i choose for myself.

Eli, if you can afford, get from Beh. but J Jay only got male bunny for sale. maybe Beh don't want sell female because scare got competitor. imagine if they sell to other, got people breed. they sell it and indirectly become their competitor. this is my thinking. i might be wrong. those who breed rabbit should welcome competitor. by doing so, it will make the market exciting. nevertheless, still a long way to go before I can afford a holland lop. i love the meaty body of netherland dwarf and holland lop. otther breed very light. reason it is big because of fur. J Jay got few lionhead.it is cute but when u carry them, the nice feeling is not there compare ND and HL.
do update us hector, hector dont look FAT!. u should see J Jay HL gift by Beh. that is FAT. now she keep 2 bunny as her pet inside the shop. i told her she should keep German Spherd dog instead. Bad guys scare dog not bunny.

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post Nov 8 2010, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Nov 8 2010, 09:17 PM)
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from what i understand- breeders tend not to sell females cos they are breeding "stock". you only need 1 male to impregnate 5 females but it doesnt work the other way around. that's why even if you can get a female bunny, its going to cost much much more than a male. ya, i know beh doesnt sell his female rabbits. so far the only breeder i know that will part with his females is sangterap but as sangterap does very very small scale breeding, its really hard to get a rabbit from him (heard the waiting list is super duper long!). plus sangterap has a strict evaluation process, i dont think i can pass, i'm still very much "budak baru belajar" blush.gif hahaha!

i'm also worried about bonding. cant simply campak a female rabbit to hector and hope for the best. need to see if they get along first before even considering buying. also must neuter hector first. then have to go thru the long and frustrating bonding process with no guarantees of success. not easy job lor sweat.gif. if they dont get along i might have to set up 2 separate play pens which will mean i will be moving to sleep in the kitchen tongue.gif pengsan! hahaha!

hector fat lor! the boy is not just fur! he eats so much its amazing. part my fault as well, hard to say no to a rabbit who is begging for food. bad mommy!

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post Nov 8 2010, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Nov 8 2010, 09:07 AM)
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Beh & Yo (Yo) also teach her to beat bunny if they naughty. wink.gif
la la la
since sifu of all bunny also believe in physical punishment
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Please do not misinterprete what Jay has told you. We have never taught people to beat/hit their rabbits. She means "tap" lightly on the rabbit as a warning to the rabbit when he/she has done something wrong.

Please do not practice physically or mentally abuse to your rabbits anymore. They remember what you have done to them! And it takes long time for them to rebuild the trust on you. Some rabbits may have phobia about human.

Good luck on you and your rabbits!
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post Nov 8 2010, 10:12 PM

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Hi Beh,

Ok. I listen to your advice. I tap lightly on her butt.

My female bunny is forgetful. She don't remember I beat her (i wish she remember so that I don't need punish her).Tonight she bully Milo again. Only when I punish her, she will not bully 2 month old bunny.

Today fat HL help brown ND clean his face by munching his fur. So funny as the brown ND fall asleep and fat HL clean until bite off his whisker. I told J Jay and she was shock. By the time she reach there, the brown HL wake up already.

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post Nov 8 2010, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Eli @ Nov 7 2010, 11:29 PM)
Nearly had a heart attack over the weekend. Hector didn't touch his dinner on friday, I was in panic mode. Plus it was the hols and all the vets were close. Stayed up with him till 4am monitoring and petting him. Never seen him so demure, he just sat in his tunnel quietly. I really tot I was going to lose him- a rabbit that stops eating and pooing is dangerous. When he started eating and pooing on saturday, I was so happy I nearly cried. He is better today. Back to being greedy and hyperactive! Phew, that was a close one. I've upped his vitamin dose and stopped fresh veggie. Am going to monitor his diet for a week before I move back to anything fresh.

Just wanted to know how the rest of u handle emergency issues like this when it happens late at night and u can't get to a vet? Are there any DIY emergency treatment I can perform to help him while waiting for the vet to open? I know animal medical centre on jln tun razak is good for emergencies but even they are not 24/7.
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last time my hyorin also didnt eat n poo for 3 days...=( then i got to know sangterap he help me step by step...she's doing great from that day on...thanks again bro i remember that lesson for life...

now if i go to the pet shop i try to get the 'oxbow critical care' for stand by..i buy from PLC...the expiry date is not long but it's just a little cost to pay for a safety think of as something like first aid treatments we have for humans...we dont need it but it's just for emergency...last time my frens rabbit fell sick i took my packet and gave to him...it does come in handy


Added on November 8, 2010, 11:06 pm
QUOTE(Eli @ Nov 8 2010, 09:35 PM)
from what i understand- breeders tend not to sell females cos they are breeding "stock". you only need 1 male to impregnate 5 females but it doesnt work the other way around. that's why even if you can get a female bunny, its going to cost much much more than a male. ya, i know beh doesnt sell his female rabbits. so far the only breeder i know that will part with his females is sangterap but as sangterap does very very small scale breeding, its really hard to get a rabbit from him (heard the waiting list is super duper long!). plus sangterap has a strict evaluation process, i dont think i can pass, i'm still very much "budak baru belajar"  blush.gif hahaha!

i'm also worried about bonding. cant simply campak a female rabbit to hector and hope for the best. need to see if they get along first before even considering buying. also must neuter hector first. then have to go thru the long and frustrating bonding process with no guarantees of success. not easy job lor  sweat.gif. if they dont get along i might have to set up 2 separate play pens which will mean i will be moving to sleep in the kitchen  tongue.gif  pengsan! hahaha!

hector fat lor! the boy is not just fur! he eats so much its amazing. part my fault as well, hard to say no to a rabbit who is begging for food. bad mommy!
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yea sangterap pick his bunny owner...if me i would also do the same thing...coz i dont want my animals to go into wrong hands..i'm sure u will pass his evaluation you're a great bunny owner...

yup bonding is not easy...depend on the rabbit character...later got new rabbit he jealous pulak even worse..hahaha...but he might be happy to get a friend..neutering think sangterap can give a good vet reccomendation

i luv the fat fat hector he's so cute...keep him chubby

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post Nov 8 2010, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Eli @ Nov 8 2010, 07:01 PM)
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that week he was having his celery. fruits are sweet la, he's fat enough tongue.gif
ya, i only have hector. am looking for a gf for him at the moment but hard to get a pure breed doe in the m'sian market. plus i'm worried about the bonding process.


Added on November 8, 2010, 7:32 pm

Close on sunday night after 7pm  sad.gif
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same here.
kenot find a suitable mate for my copter doh.gif

QUOTE(beh_yo_rabbitry @ Nov 8 2010, 09:41 PM)
Please do not misinterprete what Jay has told you. We have never taught people to beat/hit their rabbits. She means "tap" lightly on the rabbit as a warning to the rabbit when he/she has done something wrong.

Please do not practice physically or mentally abuse to your rabbits anymore. They remember what you have done to them! And it takes long time for them to rebuild the trust on you. Some rabbits may have phobia about human.

Good luck on you and your rabbits!
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where to "tap"?

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post Nov 9 2010, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Nov 8 2010, 11:00 PM)
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hi, thanks for the tip! will go shopping this weekend and stock up on critical care. rabbits are so dramatic wub.gif
how did sangterap help you deal with hyorin? do share, we can all use some guidance on how to handles emergencies like this biggrin.gif . gosh, i was so worried that night i started googling like crazy, the more i read online, the more worried i became. i actually woke up every hour to check up on him. cry.gif

my fella is the jealous sort! it's ok if he ignores me, but sekali i ignore him when i have guests around- merajuk big time doh.gif hahahahahah!


Added on November 9, 2010, 10:07 am
QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 8 2010, 11:14 PM)
same here.
kenot find a suitable mate for my copter  doh.gif
where to "tap"?
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think i'll do an experiment....i'll bring another rabbit to my apartment and see how hector handles that..... hmm.gif

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post Nov 9 2010, 11:34 AM

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Bonding can be hard
Previously my lionhead fought wit my angora when i thought they can be friend
Then my uncle gave another lionhead to accompany my lionhead
They get along instantly
Rite now wanna find a partner for my angora
Probably wanna get a hotot like vincent
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post Nov 9 2010, 12:43 PM

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bug_vengeance, hmmm.. i think mine is not pure hotot. from my analysis it is mix hotot with lionhead. everyday, i bent his two ear gently. i whisper to him n say, please go down like Holland Lop once u reach adulthood....haha

Eli, can you please upload Hector latest pic? i love chubby animal and baby.
yea. sangeterap has his own policy. i cant meet his rules as i like to experience breeding. i never see my own pet give birth. my previous pet like german shepherd, doberman, normal breed never pregnant before. as never keep two pet b4.
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never ask never know.

QUOTE(Eli @ Nov 8 2010, 09:35 PM)
plus sangterap has a strict evaluation process, i dont think i can pass, i'm still very much "budak baru belajar"  blush.gif hahaha!
It is very interesting to see how presumptions are made into facts. Also interesting to see so much words has been said on behalf of me when in fact, I have not said anything.
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Added on November 9, 2010, 9:15 pmNothing wrong with experiencing breeding if it is done correctly and with good intention...

QUOTE(vincentwee @ Nov 9 2010, 12:43 PM)
yea. sangeterap has his own policy. i cant meet his rules as i like to experience breeding.
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post Nov 9 2010, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(sangterap @ Nov 9 2010, 09:14 PM)
never ask never know.
It is very interesting to see how presumptions are made into facts. Also interesting to see so much words has been said on behalf of me when in fact, I have not said anything.
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Added on November 9, 2010, 9:15 pmNothing wrong with experiencing breeding if it is done correctly and with good intention...
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u think my copter will be a good sire? hmm.gif
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Any buck can be a good sire if your intention in just to breed. But the question is, is it a good breeding? I believe it all depends on what is your objective at the end of the day. I admit that am very biased and have more preferences toward purebred as many people know and I do not stop just at purebred, I only feel that working with the best is the only way to go. Why waste time, energy and money in a hobby and settle for mediocrity? That's my opinion anyway.

I do not mean to criticize your rabbit as that is not my intention. I am just sharing my opinion on breeding. Copter is a very nice rabbit in my opinion. I like anything that is rabbit...

At the end of the day, you're the owner and no one can stop you from breeding as that is your full rights. Perhaps our views may be different in terms of breeding. I have seen too much exploitation and abandonment so I tend to see things differently. Maybe I am being too anal about it but heck, got to start somewhere I guess....

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u think my copter will be a good sire?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Nov 10 2010, 05:12 PM)
Any buck can be a good sire if your intention in just to breed. But the question is, is it a good breeding? I believe it all depends on what is your objective at the end of the day. I admit that am very biased and have more preferences toward purebred as many people know and I do not stop just at purebred, I only feel that working with the best is the only way to go. Why waste time, energy and money in a hobby and settle for mediocrity? That's my opinion anyway.

I do not mean to criticize your rabbit as that is not my intention. I am just sharing my opinion on breeding. Copter is a very nice rabbit in my opinion. I like anything that is rabbit...

At the end of the day, you're the owner and no one can stop you from breeding as that is your full rights. Perhaps our views may be different in terms of breeding. I have seen too much exploitation and abandonment so I tend to see things differently. Maybe I am being too anal about it but heck, got to start somewhere I guess....
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coz my cousin wants one exactly like copter.
though can't seem to find any pet shop whom got one that looks like him. hmm.gif
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You won't get exactly the same. No rabbits are exactly the same. It is only our own perception. Something strange but true is that, even if u breed 2 rabbits 2 times, not likely u get the same looking offspring both times. The mixture of the gene is too diverse. too many combinations. that is the reason why most breeders are trying to reproduce their champs from way back but somehow they produce champs that look different.

QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 10 2010, 06:41 PM)
coz my cousin wants one exactly like copter.
though can't seem to find any pet shop whom got one that looks like him.  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Eli @ Nov 9 2010, 10:04 AM)
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hi, thanks for the tip! will go shopping this weekend and stock up on critical care. rabbits are so dramatic  wub.gif
how did sangterap help you deal with hyorin? do share, we can all use some guidance on how to handles emergencies like this biggrin.gif . gosh, i was so worried that night i started googling like crazy, the more i read online, the more worried i became. i actually woke up every hour to check up on him.  cry.gif

my fella is the jealous sort! it's ok if he ignores me, but sekali i ignore him when i have guests around- merajuk big time  doh.gif  hahahahahah!


Added on November 9, 2010, 10:07 am
think i'll do an experiment....i'll bring another rabbit to my apartment and see how hector handles that..... hmm.gif
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i certainly learn a lot from him but i think my situation is different from hector's coz mine was probably due to stress because i took her back to home town during my semester break and then back again...or it could be due to the commercial bunny food i gave her and inadequate grooming since she has long hair and i didnt give much hay which lead to hairball indigestion..i was very naive back then...i shared this story few times b4 if i'm not mistaken...her first signs were not eating much then eventually stop eating and pooping...then could hear her grinding her teeth due to tummy ache...and her tummy was bloated..
i called my fren crazymouse_yyh(Hun) for help and she introduce me to Sangterap so he told me what to do...and i believe that critical care play a major part in helping her get better...i had to feed her every 2-3 hours by syringe first day and gave medication for her bloated tummy.. then eventually she poop and could eat on her own and fed her pure hay then slowly intro pellets and then fresh greens back to her diet...you dont know how i happy i was to see poop hahahahaha...
lesson learnt and totally change me after that heart attack incident
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QUOTE(sangterap @ Nov 10 2010, 08:02 PM)
You won't get exactly the same. No rabbits are exactly the same. It is only our own perception. Something strange but true is that, even if u breed 2 rabbits 2 times, not likely u get the same looking offspring both times. The mixture of the gene is too diverse. too many combinations. that is the reason why most breeders are trying to reproduce their champs from way back but somehow they produce champs that look different.
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yeah know what u mean. doh.gif
and those breeders often sell their chumps sad.gif

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Yeah, not many breeder is willing to share their best. That is logical. They work hard to get the nice ones, everyone have to put in their own effort. It is good enough for them to share with you their rabbits so that you can work towards getting the good stuff.

QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 10 2010, 10:17 PM)
yeah know what u mean.  doh.gif
and those breeders often sell their chumps  sad.gif
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