To all football fans,


Recently i am considering the possibility of establishing a football club in Malaysia and i am wonder it is possible a not.

Of course, i am not seriously looking for profit on this "business" but just my dream.

Here is my brief idea

Start as a small local football club, provide training for the youth which age from 10-17 , coach and player are all volunteer basis and no wages since the club is just started. Coaches can be retiree and they are more than willing to coach and train the players.

While youth player should not be a problem as a lot of people love football, they are willing to learn football even without any single cent. (For me , i want to receive official training and play in official match since i was young, but until now i still can't even fulfill my dream.)

But of course , we the club owner will provide basic equipment to them.


About the business model, we can

(i) pump in the talented player to Malaysia Premier League Club (eg: Selangor FC, Kedah FC) to earn transfer fee.

(ii)be an affiliate club of Premier League Club and receive some annual fee (maybe not much but at least something to cover the operating cost of club, hopefully can maintain the club in a break even status in few years time)


Could you guys share whether this idea feasible and realistic a not....

(hopefully no too harsh comment on my this silly dream)

This post has been edited by chin20350: Dec 23 2009, 12:28 PM

Personally I don't know why anyone would want to get involved in sport in Malaysia, least of all football which oozes of corruption and politics.

That being said, a friend of mine started his own futsal club and we entered tournaments some years back. He paid for all our fees and equipment. We had 5 national players in the side but finished only 2nd in the inaugaral MFL (Malaysian Futsal League). I don't know if it's profitable as a business but as a hobby, why not?

Impressive, 2nd place in Malaysia Futsal League, how was the crowd during the futsal league match??

seem like it is a bit tough to make it as a business... Any1 else can give an comment or suggestion?

keep in mind that is a long term business.. so u must have more than enough of financial support to sustain the early developments

First of all, identify your objective. If your objective is to upgrade the football skills in Malaysia, you might wanna consider starting a youth school instead. That is what we're lacking honestly, grassroot development.

If you objective is to make money by transfer fees and etc, don't look any further. Either that or shift your activities to Thailand or Vietnam where people take their football very seriously.

start something at grassroot level, by developing youth football and then try to progress like what ts suggested pumping in talented youths to the club level football with a transfer fee to sustain the development of the club.

something like a feeder club, you do need some backing unless you're financially secured to run things on ur own.

This post has been edited by kink_ass: Dec 24 2009, 01:54 PM

If U want to go big, like MSL or Premier League, or even Premier Club, U really, really need to know how those things are run here in Malaysia. Pls do not go & read some book about EPL & think U can do the same here in Malaysia. Or play some football manager game & think things are as easy in those games.

If U wanna go small time, there are those social leagues, like Damansara League which can provide platform for U to jump into bigger club scene, like the FAS League or KL League. Damansara League is not FAM-endorsed league, while the FAS & KL League are state FAs-run league, which follows FAM rules exactly & can provide U a path to the bigger, FAM-run Premier Club league.

To enter Damansara League, all U have to do is pay RM1800 (2007 figures, dunno now) & Ur in. Play maybe 8-10 games in group stage & then move to knockout stage. The league will take about 3 months, depending on the number of teams. For KL & FAS Leagues, they have 2-3 divisions, so U have to work Ur way up. Most of the teams I've seen are company-owned, 1 or 2 are privately owned. However, some state FAs coaches will come & watch matches to do talent scouting. For example, KL coach will come & watch matches in KL League, & so on..

When I was playing for Comic Corner in the KL League, some of my teammates were offered places in Premier League teams. But becoz my team do not have contracts with players, we can't claim transfer fee. The bigger teams just come & grab whichever player they want. Normally they'll be offered to attend trial with the teams first. & our management also can't say a thing about them leaving. Maybe if U have contract with Ur players can U claim transfer fee of some sort.

But dun let these things discourage U in achieving Ur dream. U can always start with a small futsal team, or social league. Get things up & running 1st. Good luck.

I heard 2-3 years ago johor also got their league, got the division also not sure now what happen. usually metrosex got news about the league.

My bro played in a club back home in perlis, it's in a cup league in northen area, dunno who sponser, but if win can gain promotion to FAM league. Hence like tenno said create a club with contract everything, liason with datuk2 who using their name for these league to get a place in it.

Play, get results and ur in FAM, then Premier League 2, Premier League 1 then Super League.

If you can establish a football club, make it a good brand. Enter competitions, get sponsers.

I once got shirts sponsers for advertisement when i was active in a running club, like pacesetters.

Get noticed, and people will come to enroll. Then create teams for your club, in football, futsal, youth and don't forget the other sex. Ladies and girls also like to play, and got also league for them.

For transfers fee, i don't know. You have to contact FAM and seek advice about it. They did make a rule for ceiling wage, sure got fee not?

I dun think they call it transfer fee.. but more like contract buyouts (is that even the correct term ?). I mean, like Ur still under contract with team A. If team B wants U to play for them, then they have to buy Ur contract from team A, & then offer U a new contract to play for them. But if Ur no longer under contract with any team, then Ur free to sign with any team U want, I dun think even the Bosman rule applies in Malaysia. But for foreign players who come to play with Malaysian team, they do follow FIFA rules.

Wao.. you all knowledge is much more than what i know.. I dont even know there is a social league .
Thanks for sharing ...

Honestly speaking, i am only willing to spend a very small budget to operate the club. I am looking to maintain the club in breakeven in 2-3 years time.

To cut cost and upgrade the player skill first, train youth players for maybe half or 1 year before enter into the social league - eg: Damansara league.

While at the same time, play with local area team first to gain some match experience.

Is there any1 interested to discuss together or maybe start a new club together?
i think if we start with 3-4 peoples to run this club, it will be easier for us. Probably with some people that are experienced on running the club or knowledge in local football . (eg: User: Tenno & PleaseEnterYourName)

P/S : I am TS, wrongly using my brother Account to post the message)

This post has been edited by dragoneator: Dec 26 2009, 01:00 AM

if it's around kl, i'd like to join your club, TS as a player haha

U got your worse player(me) waiting to join if the club is formed.

Also got to have the commitment to do it, organizer and player because voluntary mah. And since the players are in the student age range, they have to study and stuff, so you also gotta manage that as well.

It is good to get some positive response from LYN forumer ,

for player recruitment it is better to recruit players nearby the club, if the distance is far, player will not be always attend for the training as traffic is damn bad around evening.

ATM i think recruit management staff would be better ~.~
i need some help before establish this club

the way we (me and my pal) tried to start a football team back then...was simple. start a local team..players are all friends...that have been playing since young, get it real (which means, go official with that team), we win some local tournament, but after secondary school, most of the players go further their study and got a place in their universiti team/or work place...two of my friend also got an work offer with a local bank in return of them playing for the bank team.

we end up with less then 10 players now...kicking the ball every weekend in a futsal court with no desire of entering any tournament..

creating a football club is a dream for almost everyone.. but the most important thing is still money..

p/s : one of Selangor player now (name start with R) used to play with us

as the English saying goes
the fastest way to make a small fortune in football is to start with a big fortune.

If that applies to England then it applies even more to Malaysia.

I doubt you'll be able to finance the club from transfer fees (or contract buyouts or whatever they call it) from clubs higher up the food chain in Malaysian football. Most of the state teams are already in financial difficulties (see Sarawak, Penang, etc) so they won't be able to offer substantial transfer fees for promising players.

Even if you unearth a Malaysian Micky Owen who scores goals for fun in the local leagues,
1. he'd only be transferred to the Super League (small amount of RM) or at a stretch to the S League (small amount of S$).
2. from performance in Super League get into the National side (or U23) & then fail to qualify for any major tournaments because the other 10 players are still not up to standard. If you don't qualify for major tournaments, your Malaysian Micky O won't get scouted.
3. Alternatively, you might send him to trials in Europe/Korea/Japan etc (at high cost) but even then, would a foreign club risk their foreign player quota on an untried Malaysian? Surely its less risky to hire a proven mediocre Argentinian/Brazilian/Nigerian who has played in higher quality leagues elsewhere.

If you really wanted to do business model, you'd get more chance of success in countries like China or Japan where the league is financially stronger or places like Argentina/Australia/New Zealand where the players can often often claim dual nationality to a country in EU & be more marketable in Europe.

If you still decide to go ahead, I'd volunteer to coach if you can pay for me to attend an FAM coaching course.

i wouldnt mind helping out in the admin dept

if u need any help whatsoever.

skils : management

Instead of establishing a football club, how about creating a local tournament / league instead? Teams pay X amount of money to join, league goes on for a few months, and you can earn money through the fees that each team pays for the matches.

Not sure how viable it will be, but with the right audience (youth players, for eg), and supported by the right parties (ministry of youth & sports, etc) and sponsors, it probably has a better shot at being sustainable than a football club.

But your post mentions that you're not seriously looking into profitability for the football club. In that case, it should be fairly easy to get started.

Football's kinda hard 'cause of the commitment required. Why not start from futsal?

BTW, one of the futsal teams I play for is trying to rope teams to join an amateur association to form an amateur Futsal league. More details here:

http://www.gofutsal.com/modules/newbb/view...=flat&order=ASC

I was busy for last 2 weeks and sorry for late reply,


I received some helping hand from forumers, thanks a lot especially nimrod2 and frankie,
i would consider your offer and maybe we could come out for a meeting to discuss about the possibility of this project.


To organize such football event, i really dont have any idea how to start by, unless i get help from nimrod and frankie or maybe Glozz as well.
Seem like i need to contact with football association first, then look for football teams to participate , then sponsor. A lot of work to do to start such an event.

My suggestion would be establish a local small club, train the youth U14 and U18 , Collect a very minimal money from them such as RM15 per month for the maintenance cost of the team, training 2-3 times per week, play match with local team on sunday morning, when the result is significant, then only join the so call Damansara League match.


Glozz i am impressed with your organizing skill , could you establish an football event as well?? It looked like your futsal event is very successful and even have contact with Selangor Football Association. Impressive !! Since you have contact with them , lets do it together if possible . >.<

The reason i am not establish futsal club because futsal club require more cost compare to football. Every minute in futsal court = money . Every hour RM80-100 . Gosh...

Not like in public field, we can train without cost everyday. Other than that, i really prefer football than futsal , although i am now transform to a futsal player (maybe influence by EPL too much already).



If any1 is interested, please feel free to leave a comment or PM me .
Give this hope a chance, maybe we can start it small first , at least we wont regret and also wont lose too much of money or effort in case this project is failed. Who know we will be another "Fake" Madrid in future.

This post has been edited by chin20350: Jan 15 2010, 11:13 AM

we can start by organizing an event, and the profits go towards the establishment of the club / team.
i believe such events are popular, if u got enough sponsors / prize money.

yes you can train for free at the public park. but then u have no rights to be there exclusively. and that's not a very good practice to hog the field to ourselves. maybe futsal has a smaller initial capital.

before all that, you need to register your football club with the sports commission. after your club is being registered, then is much more easier for you to get things done. my football club is affiliated with Selangor Football Association and we are working closely with them in a few projects. We even joined their Div 1 league.

You need more info, please do PM me ya and i will try to help.